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When do car mods stop being considered 'bolt ons'? Where is the line drawn? Is custom fabrication necessary? Are bolt-ons only referring to external components which are bought and then simply bolted on to the car? What if it's part of a kit but requires cam removal? Obviously a custom-built tubular header with a custom-plumbed big turbo setup wouldn't be considered a bolt on, but there are a lot of mods leading up to this that sort of fall into a grey area. Here are a list of these grey area items I would like your collective thoughts on:
- Custom tune (obviously tunes aren't 'bolted on', but this is in comparison to an off the shelf tune
- Valve train components. Upgraded springs, etc
- Installing parts from higher-model cars that fit with little modification (S3 turbo on A4, or Q5 brake calipers on A4)
- Installing a 'kit' that requires custom installation (ie a meth injection kit, with custom mounting, routing, nozzle selection, controller settings, etc)
- Installing a custom brake ducting setup to send fresh air to your rotors via silicone tubing and NACA ducts
- Replacing a diverter valve controlled by an electronic solenoid via ECU with a vacuum-operated blow off valve, requiring rerouting of vacuum lines
- Custom exhaust
And anything else you can think of that might be in bolt-on purgatory.
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If you have to ask then it's a bolt on
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Oh also, what about a big turbo 'kit' that requires replacement of tons of parts, but all the fabrication and compatibility work was done by someone else like a tuning company? And all you did was buy it and 'bolt it on'. Does it matter if you did the fabrication work personally? Does it have to be a one-off part/setup?
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Another one: Installing a 'universal fit' intercooler onto your car. Sure, it 'bolts on', but maybe you had to fashion up some brackets from the hardware store and drill through your crash bar. Not to mention the silicone pipes and steel joiners you had to source from some shady website to get it hooked up to your stock system.
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>>16914319
I prefer the Vmount myself but very pretty, wouldwatchitrun/10
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Air Intake, headers, exhaust, wheels, coilovers are things that I would consider "bolt on".
Cams, ecu changes, head work (port and polish, stiffer valve springs, or general machine work) and turbos and superchargers fall under "non bolt on" if I had to put a label on them.
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Anything that uses factory fixing holes and bracketry, without any major modification or relocation of components is considered a bolt on.
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To me, a bolt on part is anything that's literally just bolted on or easily swapped with little more than a ratchet, impact, or screwdriver.
Once you've hit the point where the mod or your car has to be altered, fabricated, or tuned, you're no longer putting bolt on parts on your car.
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>>16914319
Universal fit means it designed to universally fit nothing
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>>16914499
Depends on the car and part, I would say. The headers on my previous Z28 for instance were a little more than a simple bolt on job considering the amount of shit I had to mess with to manipulate the headers into place.
Supercharging it seemed like changing a spare compared to it.
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Is swapping in a new engine a bolt on mod? Technically I just unbolted the old one and bolted the new one in. Just was a lot of bolts.
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Damn my GC8 isn't doing bad
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>>16913830
simple if you have to pull the engine out to change the rotating assembly its not bolt on anymore...
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>>16914403
>vmount
AYYYY
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>>16915286
>vmount
WHYYYY
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>>16914789
That's a swap, and since it's several whole components of consider it separate from a mod. If you swapped intakes for a factory one that had longer runners that would be a mod.
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>>16913858
I think I did decent.
>Little tree air freshner
Hidden behind the rear view mirror because I hate having lose things in my car.
>Nobody eats
It's always better to eat at a proper place calm and relaxed.
>CAI
Doesn't change a thing besides woosh sound, I just can't be arsed to buy stock intake.
>Tune
Forged pistons, custom 3' pipe from turbo all the way out to the exhaust tip, custom ECU "tune", pump, injectors etc, so it's more than just a tuned ECU (still no Stage 1,2, etc,)
>Auto-X
meh
>Stretched tires and /or camber
It's a SAAB 9-5, the rear have camber and toe in already so it's not by choice.
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>>16913858
>how to spot an autist, the post
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>>16913830
bolt on
>made by a manufacturer
>literally all you have to do is bolt it into place
Non bolt on
>anything that requires fabrication or custom work
Not that complicated.
A tune isn't a bolt on. It's a pre-tune. Springs are a bolt on unless you made them yourself. Higher end parts that require a modification are by default not a bolt on. A kit that requires a customer installation is not a bolt on, it's an assortment of parts you have to fabricate to work. Custom brake ducting is not a bolt on unless it literally bolts into factory points. Custom exhaust is also not a bolt on....it's custom.
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