[ D a i l y - B i k e - T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ Motocamping e

>>16896625
Hotels > camping

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What's a good big P-twin that can handle long freeway miles?

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New poll
Plz vote

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RfbCcCo7ndf-cajOi6YnulPvNb6cNCDBUdVn0KE4Chc/viewform?

>>16896631
What's the difference between a long and a short mile?

>>16896637
Time. Long time. Long time holding one speed.
Long time holding a steady rpm
Long distance
Long
O
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>>16896625
I've decided I'm keeping the R40.

Left Bag: 2 person Tent, camping quilt
Right Bag: Rain Suit, base layer, Rain/cold gloves, Helinox Ground chair, sleeping pad
Top Bag: External battery, GoPro, misc cables, rolled up hoodie to simulate a small amount of food
Rear Pockets: Empty but have enough space for all my tools in one and a large water bottle in another

Basically everything I would need except a camp stove, but I haven't factored in a tank bag yet so I think I'll be fine.

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>>16896648
when are enduro wheels coming?
>tfw trying to sift through BDR tracks and finding most of them are impassable until at least june

>>16896648
get a tail light you nigger

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The season approaches!

>>16896634
not fucking taking a timestamped pic

use the god damn email provided

youre trying to make a meet up into rocket surgery

>>16896699
Just send him a picture of your bike that doesn't get posted often, with a quote like "ur a faguette"

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>>16896699
It's just because of the amount of votes we got from obviously fake emails
Also checked

>>16896701
That only applied to Indian Anon because he is at sea for weeks at a time and can't timestamp a picture. Everyone else needs to do it

>>16896643
Does this actually effect anything after an engine is broken in...? As long as an engine isn't over heating I don't see how an engine type matters.

>>16896710
Are you dumb? Or just a newfag?

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>>16896665
Haven't bought them yet, only set for sale is on fleabay, dude wants $850 and they don't even come with rotors/sprocket. The go for $600 on advrider kitted up when they're on there.

>>16896668
I have a tail light, and it has turn signals.

>>16896716
Pls explain then

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>>16896665
>impassable until at least june
Because of snow?
I didn't realize AZ had snow. I figured it was going to be hot.

>>16896732
Would you try to ride a 2stroke 125 at 80mph for 8 hours?
Or would you rather ride a 4cyl 1000 4stroke or 2cyl 1000 4stroke?

>>16896740
WHAT WOULD YOU HUH FAG

>>16896736
>no room for a girl
confirmed gay.

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>>16896736
im coming from WA so half of the WA track, a good amount of the OR, ID and CO tracks are no good. ill probably take the south part of WA and then hit a spot here and there between slabbing it own to meet you guys.
im not going to be trying to tackle the water crossings in OR on my own either or my trip may be cut rather short

>>16896745
>offroading with a grill on the back
>my gf has her own bike

>>16896750
I didn't realize where you were coming from. is AZ the end of your trip?

>>16896740
I'm pretty sure any modern 4 stroke will last 100k maintained well.

>>16896764
I'm starting to think a lot of the people here don't even have motorcycles, and just saw their waifu riding a cool bike in an anime once or something.

>>16896764
Nah, im heading to moab too. i didn't get my fill last time on the xr
im just trying to put together a set of tracks so i can make a good route down and back, i figure on having like 3-4 days to get home from moab so i can make some stops and venture around.
i should probably invest in a sheepskin seat cover to help stave off monkeybutt

>>16896772
Kys

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Anyone here used a kevlar liners before? This is similar to a long johns and it also takes in a hip and knee armor.

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>>16896294
sure is, bike could totally use a slipper clutch, it's very easy to get the rear end out of shape on entrance to those tight corners with the huge braking zones.

The trick is to revmatch well but also to slip the clutch a little bit, especially if you're coming into a 2nd gear corner, really slip that clutch out after the rev match and keep the torque to the rear wheel smooth.

However: all this shouldn't matter on the street, you won't be braking that hard outside of the track for the engine braking to become a problem, you're just seriously manhandling the controls and you don't have to worry about cornering better if you're at that phase of noobdom.

Remember: it's almost never the bike, it's always the rider.


>>16896329
>My ultimate purpose is to drag knee and learn proper body position

Worked for me. (and yes i'm posting the track pictures again, blow me)

The SV is a great bike for learning both these things, very forgiving for the most part, stable as a rock even without a steering damper. clip ons but not a torture rack.

>>16896797
Wouldn't you be coming through Moab to get to us in AZ?
I'm going to ride SLAB 9 hours to LA on that Sunday, and then slap 11 hours to AZ to meet you guys Monday night. That's going to suck.

>>16896794
That's a thing, but I think that guy is just one of the Anons that takes every opportunity to shit talk me.

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Rocky mountain SAM is where it is at.

After watching a couple of motovlogs I still can't see the point in them.

>>16896870
They're mostly retarded and for the same type of people that watch streamers on Twitch for hours a day.

Specific videos where vloggers compare or review bikes and gear, or do really neat shit like the street legal H2R guy are better.

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Should I keep my 250 or get rid of it when I get my bolt guys? Part of me wants to keep it and take the 250 to a track day, but the other part things im going to look like a massive faggot on a 250 at a track day and that I should just sell it and put the money towards paying off the bolt.

>>16896870
It's a lifestyle thing. People watch them to live vicariously through the vlogger but at some point you realize they are all doing the same shit at some point every day

>>16896846
moab is a ways east from WA so i figured on heading south and intersecting your route somewhere before moab then i can run through nevada and make shitty fallout jokes all the way through.
im just spitballing now and seeing what sounds good

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>>16896881
>bought a bolt
>worried about looking like a faggot

uhhh

here's a hint: nobody cares what you ride at the track day, people show up on sport touring bikes and 150cc single cylinder thai bikes at track days, nobody cares because everybody is there to ride their bikes not fucking look at them.

>>16896897
THATS NOT A FUCKING GECKO GOD DAMN

>>16896895
Had I known you plans I would have made plans to meet up with you somewhere and then we could have met CC in Moab instead of the other way around.

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>>16896912
you're first to get the pecko

>>16896915
these are not geckos the first one is some kind of bearded lizard and this is a fucking iguana

>>16896880
Now that I think about it, I was quite entertained with BaronVonGrumble and Do It With Dan while he was working on his cars/bikes.

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FUK this is clean, want bad
https://chambana.craigslist.org/mcy/6058863844.html

>>16896938
Royal Jordanian reviews some cool bikes too.
Everlast and that other guy he rides with have a couple videos about adv mods and DRZ vs WR.

>>16896941
>https://chambana.craigslist.org/mcy/6058863844.html
DR350 better.

>>16896947
I know they are, but haven't found many decent dual sports for sale out here in a good distance.

>>16896941
whats up mang, how's spring break going

>>16896947

blood stop encouraging people to buy bikes from early 90s
get a WR or something good

>>16897023
Early 90s was a good time for bikes

dead thread

>>16897023
>doesn't understand the appeal of a shitbike
pls

>>16896880
i've always thought motovloggers were for people that don't actually ride

>>16897131
Pretty much

i want to pay over $500 to take a weekend course on a supersport, on a race track, before i buy one

is that stupid?

>>16897230
Nah, I'd do it.

>>16897230
kind of

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>>16897230
great Idea, I'd do pro coaching if i could afford it.

>>16897243
>>16897248
cooool
i'm well versed in shitbikes but i feel like getting on something with actual power might overwhelm me. i might even learn that i don't want a super sport

>>16897244
why though??

>>16897258
because I don't think dragging the knee should be your first concern when getting your supersport

>>16897263
what should be my first concern?

>>16897264
learning your specific bike

>>16897265
yawn

ok

i have 5 bikes, i want to learn technique

>>16897270
go ahead, not sure why you asked if you don't want to hear input.

>>16897271
i wanted input
now i'm filtering good and shit input

>>16897275
right. have fun.

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>>16897263
uhhh, supersports are for tracks.

I can't imagine a better way of learning whether supersports are for him than borrowing one on a track.

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could snag this for a bargain
just needs an MOT

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1-5 go for a ride
6-0 make food

>>16897320
Post boipucci

What's with the ''Honda a shit'' meme?`Like how did it start and why did it start?

>>16897329
if i ever meet you i am going to throw my potatoes at you.

>>16897331
honda makes bullet proof reliable bikes and that made someone mad

>>16897331
a lonely anon with a gs500 and too much time on his hands.

>>16897331
>Like how did it start and why did it start?
about 20 years ago when their bikes started becoming shit

Africa twin and CB400sf are the only 2 decent bikes they have now; they're pretty much the Harley of Japan. Only selling on their name.

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>>16897336
>h-honda so reliable!!!!
they're on par with about every other nip brand

>>16897340
I wouldn't consider the new Fireblade to be a meme bike...

>>16897342
i wouldn't know
i'm still riding my stock 80s hondas
(my suzuki and yamaha need rebuild and my other 70s honda got stolen)

>>16897333
Ill throw my dick inside ur boipucci and fill u up with my hot juice

>>16897331
They're been trying to make the motorcycle market into the car market for years so that they can sell over 9000 boring Honda Civics, except as bikes.

Basically they've made a ton of boring shit for a long time. The new lackluster Africa Twin and the awesome but basically a toy Grom are their most standout bikes in a long time

>>16897346
I've yet to seen it compared to an R1M, RSV4, or the new GSXR1000

Plus it's expensive as fuck for what it is.

>>16897342
Im pretty sure theres more suzuki and honda bikes on the road than yamaha. Also almost all recent yamaha bikes have been recalled for diferent reason, this includes the r3, fz09, r1, some scooter and i dont remenber the other ones.

>>16897359
honda sells more than anyone, yamaha is 2nd though.

>>16897352
>honda civic used to be great performance and reliability for the money
>easy to mod
>now it's a soccer mom car
fuggg

>>16897340
>>16897352
why is /dbt/ so fucking retarded?

>durr everything except my bike and this 1 other bike i like are shit

lol fucking kill yourselves

>>16897370
Every nigger or mexican i see rides a suzuki, chinks mostly ride kawasaki or ducati. Most not so poor people ride honda or yamaha.

>>16897377
yamaha sells the most of anybody in the off road market so that's probably why you don't see them as often if you're street riding.

I personally see FZ07's like every 3rd bike though.

>>16897376
Staymad af cuckboi now post boipucci

What channels do you guys watch for bike reviews?

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>>16897376
>mad his brand is shit
sorry you bought a meme

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>>16897331
Some nobike Rossifag that got BTFO of /dbt/ by Marquez

>>16897340
Nobody except that one aussie cunt on /dbt/ would even buy a CB400SF if it was available in their market.

>>16897376
Lets go through every fucking bike Honda sells right now:

>Touring - Gold Wing, ST1300, CTX1300, Interstate, NM4, CTX700 DCT
>all of their boring old man highway cruisers

>Adventure
>XR650L, CRF250 Rally and Africa twin are all pigfat and underpowered
>VFR1200X should be in touring and above statement applies
>CB500X and NC700X are just styled up commuters

>Cruiser
>Valkerie and Rebel 500 are kinda neat, but nothing really special
>rest are typical shit cruisers

>Supersport
>if you had the money for an RC213V-S you'd buy something else
>CBR's are more cookie cutter jap sport bikes and not better than the rest from the big 4, worse if you go by numbers

>Sport
>CB1100 is pigfat as FUCK and should be in Touring or Cruiser
>CB1000R is a decent super naked but is getting outdated last I checked
>Grom is a fun toy
>rest are boring commuter bikes

>Dual Sport
>all pigfat and underpowerd, CRF250 Rally needed to be a 450

>>16897400
t. hasn't ridden any of them

fuck off memeboy

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>>16897352
Do you want all motorcycles to be Nortons and especially shitty Harleys?

>>16897402
Don't have to eat shit to know I won't like it.

>>16897404
But baird does enjoy consuming fecal matter.

>>16897403
No, I want Busas and H2Rs and R1M's and the R3 is the best 300 and all of Yamahas triples are great and the DRZ is the only japanese supermoto and the Z bikes are cool as fuck and everyone has faster sport bikes than Honda and the GSXR 750 has no competition from Japan and the VMax is fucking awesome

I'm so glad I left you cancerous jits alone.

t. CTA

>>16897424
>R1M's
Yeah, I heard you love a good rimming.

>>16897424
All of those are a result of Honda making the motorcycle market more like cars.

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>>16897400
>Adventure 450
Don't be lazy and put a rally kit on a crf450x then.
>45KW
>6 speed
>150kg
>180kmh top speed
>33 litre fuel capacity
what more can you ask for?

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>>16897389
Im not the only one on dbt with a cb400sf though.

>>16897433
What kind of fucking retarded mental gymnastics did you do to come up with that?

>>16897434
>what more can you ask for?
Honda to sell one. There's no use comparing manufacturers as a whole while talking about modding potential, also
>buy CRF450
>spent cost of bike again on rally kit
>still not as good of an adventure bike as a WR450 with an adv tank because the CRF won't make it home

>>16897439
how many dollarydoos did you pay for yours, im looking at some on gumtree atm

>>16897439
Nice filename, new cummies when?

>>16897451
love this meme

>>16897457
Generic andriod filenames are CONCRETE evidence.


reeeeeeeee

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>frankie macdonald predicts a big earthquake to hit me soon
>he predicts with 100% accuracy
>his last predictions (new zealand) earthquake happened less than a month after he said it was coming
HELP

>>16897457
nice delection

>>16897439
So you're not the only faggot in the village?

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>>16897448
i paid $6500 with 2100km on the clock, not including the cost of a new battery and getting it registered.

>>16897473
new cummies when?

>>16897440
The kind where you open a fucking book for once in your life. Before Honda led Japan into blowing the fuck out the British and Americans the market generally consisted of scooter tier small bikes and unreliable fiddly enthusiast bikes for the hardcore. Making fun motorcycles accessible to more people (like cars) is what allows all the Japanese bikes you like today to exist.

Some of the difference is likely that bikes were so shit in the past that you had to be a complete masochist to complain that a Honda was too refined or boring. Even the 954 is so loved because it's an easier bike to ride than the K2.

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>>16897466
>big earthquake to hit me soon
Better learn to fight back nigga. Buy a generator and solar panels and battery and inverter TODAY. Get a Yeti cooler to keep your frozen stuff on ice once you loose power. Get in survival mode, head to /out/ and start making a bug out bag.

>>16897477
when you post some

>>16897486
>blowing the fuck out of the British
is this the same company that bitched and moaned and drew out of all competition until the Norton rotaries were banned?

yeah nice

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>>16897424
>implying the GSX-R 750 has competition from Japan

Pray for me bois, messaged a seller and hopefully new bike monday

>>16897489
I have an iPhone, filename won't look convincing.

>>16897487
I live in the middle of a big city, I'll just get my boipucci raped and solar panels stolen. I already have a bugout kit, I'd probably just go camping for a few weeks for all the shit end.

>>16897491
Allowing rotaries at the displacement they did was like allowing a two stroke.

>only raced in Britain because they wanted a British bike to be competitive against the Japanese so they allowed it

>>16897493
Did you just assume my I worship magical sky wizards?

I hope the bike is a bust.

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Anybody use Alpinestarts SP-8 gloves?

Seem like the best deal for gauntlet style gloves.

>>16897505
>posting Canadian dollar prices for anything

>>16897507
this is like our version of revzilla (but better)

What the fuck is so appealing to people about black windscreens

>>16897523
>he hasnt been blacked

>>16897523
Looks less ATGATT high viz uncle

>>16897523
I would want one, a small one that covers my dash and gps. So I can actually see them instead of glare.

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>>16897532
What the fuck is high viz uncle about a usable windscreen?

>>16897542
>you know you're a hi viz uncle when you don't think things are hi viz uncle

>>16897523
Mine is heavily tinted but it's so small it won't even do anything.

>>16897505
i have them, i'd recommend buying something at a higher price point

the good
>full leather construction
>cheap full gauntlet
>solid knuckle protector
>good feel on the controls

the bad
>can pull them off my hands, fully fastened, with a bit of force
>knuckle protector marks easily if it ever comes into contact with anything remotely harder than it
>lack of any additional hard parts or sliders leaves it feeling incomplete
>lower palm feels inadequately padded

they're cheap for a reason. i'd probably opt for something better desu

>>16897551
Are we still talking about windscreens?

>>16897556
It's called a windscreen if you were to order it

>>16897550
>you know when someone hasn't done over 200kmh when they don't see the need for a usable windscreen
stay slow, old man

>>16897542
The looks. Just looks better with a blacked windscreen IMO. Whether it's worth the trade off is up to you, but meh.

>>16897554
Thanks for the writeup. Any recommendations?

>>16897565
I honestly think they almost always look kind of awful on anything but a black bike, and I don't generally like black bikes anyways. Doesn't help they tend to be some massive double bubble that makes the fairing look twice as big.

>>16897572
not who you replied to but I tried on those exact gloves yesterday because I noticed how cheap they were and my gloves (SP2) are getting pretty ratty.

The wrist protection seems really weak. I know you still need full movement of your wrist (can't be like a motorcycle boot) but it seemed to offer no support at all.

Maybe it's just because my gloves have gotten wet so many times the leather is hard as fuck?

>>16897560
>you know your a pencil necked faggot when you need a windscreen to hide behind when you do over 200km/h

LMAO!

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>>16897585
Anything would have more wrist support than my current setup

>>16897602
knox handroid da bes

>>16896819
Thassa pretty neat idea. They CE approved, or just "well they might work, I guess"?

>>16897314
>C1
Still needs a helmet, which misses most of the point.

>>16897608
Knox gloves are pretty nice, palm sliders are mandatory. Orsa v2 a best short glove, might grab a Handroid or one of the waterproof when they get the hell around to refreshing the rest of their lineup with capacitive touch pads for the fingertips.

>>16897384
44Teeth

>>16897590
Whats the matter? Hit a little too close too home, slow boy?

>>16897492
750 models with SRAD are suprisingly good, even by today's standards

>>16897664
Sorry you have a weak necked. My windscreen doesnt even cover my visor when tucked. You need all the preciuos buffeting protection you can get it seems.

But please cast some more aspersions.

>>16897666
what the fuck is SRAD?

>>16897679
Suzuki's version of RAIS

>>16897682
what the fuck is RAIS?

>>16897683
The predecessor of TRAS

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>>16897684

>>16897684
You left off the H

>>16897505
I have those in black with green accents, 5/5 for summer riding, insane price/performance-ratio.

Good:
>great feel on controls
>sturdy (have lowsided twice at speed, only scraped the leather off the knuckles and split a seam I sewed back together)
>good airflow

Bad:
>cuff velcro starts failing after a year or so, just sew new velcro patches on top of the old ones. You can buy 5cm wide velcro by the meter.
>won't hold more than maybe a minute of rain due to perforation
>under 10°C and your hands will freeze on the highway

LMAO

Look at you women arguing

Real men dont need windscreens or fairings

Real men ride custom unique Harley Davidson choppers

Y'all candyass busta bitches

>>16897697
>Real men dont need windscreens or fairings
true
>Real men ride custom unique Harley Davidson choppers
false

>>16897697
>Look at you women arguing
True

>Y'all candyass busta bitches
True

Real man don't care about other man or women.

>>16897706
Your dad and mother just died in a horrible accident.

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>>16897708
Don't joke about my parents!

>>16897711
>tfw you don't have a 12in dildo attached to your forks

>>16897697
slowfag busta bitches, thankyou

t. Not toogay king

Anyone have any experience touring on a sport bike? Any tips or tricks you want to share?

>>16897796
Option 1: put on a top rack and pannier mounts. It is now a sport-touring bike.

Option 2: Self-flagellate and lash a mixture of various bags to the bike to try and carry the same load, but more slowly (lolaero) and more inconveniently if you actually need to get at anything you're carrying. Cheaper though.

>>16897620
It's CE approved. Was looking at a few of em online.

https://www.dragginjeans.net/clothing/accessories/k-legs-unisex-detail.html

http://www.urbanrider.co.uk/bowtex-unisex-kevlar-long-johns-yellow.html

>>16897796
Place something soft under your butt if you need it
Get ratchet straps, bungee cords/nets
If you go alone try to make friends in the way

>>16897807
>http://www.urbanrider.co.uk/bowtex-unisex-kevlar-long-johns-yellow.html
Hahaha holy shit what fucking shysters!
Check the Bowtex website: http://www.bowtex.com/product-page/bowtex-kevlar-leggings-unisex
Look at all those EN/ISO numbers, must be proper safe right? Fuck no! Those are just the ISO standards for TESTING fabrics for certain metrics (e.g. 'how to test the tensile strength' and 'how to test the weight per unit area')! Said standards say fucking NOTHING about actually needing to meet any required performance levels. That would be something like EN 13595-2:2002 which is the abrasion level test for motorcycle clothing (which they do not even claim to have passed).
And at no point do they even half-assedly claim to be CE approved. The things could be made of wet tissue and everything they actually claim would still be true, because they haven't claimed shit in terms of actual protection. Be careful of the old scam of slapping 'CE approved' on a product that has CE approved protective inserts too: that doesn't necessarily mean the garment has been CE approved as a piece (i.e. it could have no abrasion resistance whatsoever).

>>16897838
Top tips for people who aren't me (and therefore don't fap to standardisation documents):

- If it's not 'CE Approved' (not 'CE certified' or any other junk): It's not worth shit

- If it didn't come with a CE approval test report (usually a little booklet, sometimes loose sheets): it's not worth shit

- Read the damn booklet. Did they actually test for impact resistance and abrasion resistance, or did they just do impact-test on the inserts?

- If it was sold as 'CE Cat 2', did it actually MEET Cat 2 for ALL tests, or just one cherry-picked test?

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Reposting because I didn't get any serious replies during american time.

I gotta say the engine braking on the SV650 is huge and if you don't revmatch perfectly before a corner or if you don't have perfect throttle/clutch control you're pretty much fucked. When you try to go fast and stay in the powerband, of course.

I don't think you niggers should suggest it as a starting bike, it scares the shit out of me and it's hard to improve and concentrate on things like body position and leaning.

How's the engine braking on an i4 600 in the powerband, at 8k or whatever, compared to the SV?

>>16897861
SV is a vtwin, cucco
A 90° one at that
This means it's very peppy in the midrange

You're not meant to chop the throttle ever, especially mid corner
And i4 is smoother by nature, but a 600 will also have nearly double the power

All in all git gud and lrn2throttle

>>16897861
i dont recommend the sv650 as a starting bike but for the reasons you listed its a good starting bike

mine is very forgiving and corrects all the shit i fuck up. i have a cbr 500r, and if i were on youre bike i would probably be dead already. but thats how you learn properly, in my opinion lol

Note to self: to much oil makes clutch slippy

>>16897861
The less cylinders the more engine braking.

So you suggest starting on an I4?

>>16897861
>if you don't revmatch perfectly before a corner or if you don't have perfect throttle/clutch control you're pretty much fucked
Nigga, you;re on a V-TWIN. How dod you fuck up so bad that you need to shift DURING a corner? Corner, then shift.
And try not to let the back end slip out on those tears you're crying for the imaginary milliseconds you think you've lost.

>>16897861
post your SV

>>16897875
>You're not meant to chop the throttle ever, especially mid corner
Obviously, that's the point. I meant that even if you by mistake release a bit of the throttle midcorner the huge engine braking will fuck you up.

I'm not saying this happens to me, I'm saying that the thought of it happening scares the shit out of me sometimes and it slows my learning process a lot.

>>16897876
I rode the CB500F at the riding school, actually it was my first bike, and it's a fucking joke to ride compared to the SV650. It was so fucking easy.

>>16897903
You tell me. If there's no engine braking, I would say so.

>>16897911
>How dod you fuck up so bad that you need to shift DURING a corner?
What? I don't shift during a corner, I mean downshifting before a corner.

As a side note how do people manage to hold the throttle with all the fingers, brake with all the fingers before a corner and return all the fingers on the throttle all in one movement without releasing or upsetting the throttle? I don't get it.

>>16897917
Why? I'm the Italian anon.

>>16897922
>how do people manage to hold the throttle with all the fingers, brake with all the fingers before a corner and return all the fingers on the throttle all in one movement

Practice. Some bikes also have better brakes that require less input for the same stopping power than other bikes.

>>16897941
>practice
Okay but how the fuck do they keep the throttle steady when they remove the fingers, with part of the palm (the part closer to the wrist)?
I don't understand, to me it seems like they simply remove the hand and place it back to use the brake.

>>16897958
You keep 2 fingers in the levers for reference

>>16897983
That's a different way of braking, not the one I'm describing.

>>16897263
You're right. Safe and proficient riding technique development is most important. Exactly what the coach will teach him. In fact it is the best thing he should do. What do you suggest? That he learns from his friends on the street?

I hope you don't breed you fucking opinionated idiot.

>>16897926
jesus christ

anyway I already responded up here.

>>16896828

now please stop

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I know a lot of you have the higher end Sena audio systems, but have any of you tried the 3s? Wireless sound and intercom from a known manufacturer seems like a killer deal

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-3s-w-bluetooth-headset-wired-microphone

>>16897958
If the brake lever is positioned correctly it is easy to reach it with index and middle finger while holding throttle steady with ring and pinkie

>>16898025
I don't know about you but my last two fingers are more for support, my palm controls the throttle mostly.

>>16897922
>As a side note how do people manage to hold the throttle with all the fingers, brake with all the fingers before a corner and return all the fingers on the throttle all in one movement without releasing or upsetting the throttle?
C-grip best grip. No finger-dancing.

>>16897958
Nobody ever takes the entire hand of the throttle. You use the levers with 2 fingers

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When do you guys take your bikes out?

>>16898107
Already.
>T. Rocky mountains

>>16898023

At that price point and size I'd wager it's built on par with the cheap chink systems. I wouldn't expect decent audio on either end, nor their claimed 8 hours talk time.

If I had a limited budget where I couldn't get the 10/20 series I'd personally just go with a no name chink system with a bigger battery and probably put a nicer speaker/mic set on it.

Anyone can comment on Triumph tigers? Are they good?

I have my eyes on a tiger 955i.

>tall
>ugly as fuck
>Good size engine

>>16898146
I have a 1050 sprint now, but i have owned a 955 tiger and a 900 trident. My buddy has the new 800 tiger and I have ridden it quite a bit. I love these triples and will sing their praises all day long. The older Tigers were a little rougher around the edges but the power plant is solid. Slight shortcomings in suspension and braking, the bike is a bit heavier than I would like, but they handle well. You hardly ever see them on the road, which is nice too.

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>>16896819
I have some great Hood kevlar jeans from the UK but am really interested in these liners. Would love to wear whatever jean I want but still have abrasion protection.

>>16898164
>You hardly ever see them on the road, which is nice too.
yeah thats another reason, its affordable and uncommon enough that other bikers will appreciate it.

>>16897861
I ride a big flat twin. I can lock the rear by just going down a gear. Never did I had a problem with engine braking mid turn.

You just suck balls

>>16897258
wat course r u interested in?

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>>16896828
>>16898001
>However: all this shouldn't matter on the street
I don't use the bike as a tool to commute, of course I try to get better at riding even if I ride on the street.

I couldn't see the reply, sorry.
>>16898025
>>16898062
I'm just describing what I see people do and they use all the fingers to brake and all the fingers to accelerate. I wanted to know how they keep the throttle steady during the transition, I figure they use the palm.

Max Wrist does it.
>>16898047
What's that?

>>16898107

A month ago; got a few days of great riding. Yesterday was 17 and nice, today is 5 and raining...

>>16898197
>post a legitimate question with legitimate noob concerns
>lol I'm so good you just suck
Really sad.

I've never said I "had a problem with engine braking mid turn", learn to read.

>>16898289
I started on a 650, never had that problem as a noob.

You just suck.

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>>16897400
Gold Wing is actually very good for what it is and the VTXs are very competent Harley knockoffs, from what I understand

>>16897538
dis

>>16898062
>Nobody ever takes the entire hand of the throttle
I was told to do this in my MSF course, although I thought it was stupid at the time.
(still do, but I used to, too)

>>16898297
Again.

You need validation or something? Go ask you mom, tough guy.

>>16897434
valves that last longer than 100 hours

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>>16898274
>I don't use the bike as a tool to commute, of course I try to get better at riding even if I ride on the street.


dear lord, I'm just trying to tell you that you're never gonna brake hard enough for it's strong engine braking to be a problem on the road, you've just got arse technique and need to stop worrying about the bike and just learn to ride because the bike is fine.

>>16898367
Braking has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I thought I was clear about it.

You're about to corner and you downshift, keeping the revs high to stay in the powerband (for the SV that's about 6k or?) and accelerate faster once you're out of the corner. What I'm talking about is the "fear" that if for some random reason you let go of the throttle or jerk it the insane engine braking will upset the bike like crazy.

Do you always keep some fingers on the brake when you corner? Or after you trailbrake, if you do that?

>do longish journey today
>all on motorway
>on a 125
>sitting at 65-70mph constantly
>nearly at redline

rip

>>16898429
But have you ever slipped on the throttle when riding? Probably no right? Just start slow at lower rpms. You will be ok anon

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>>16896631
Clearly no one here owns a bike or knows anything.
Entire thread and no one has answered the second post except with memes and trolling.
The whole thread is memes and trolling.
Fuck you all

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fucking farmers dumping shit all over the road i swear.

Why do the gear manufacturers make such awful looking riding jeans. I mean I get it that it has to have protection and such, but why the hell do they look like they have been stolen from a gangster in Detroit?

>>16898450
No, I didn't but what I described holds me back from leaning more and enter the corner faster and it frustrates me. I really wish I could enter corners faster.

How do I get a better throttle control? Surely there can be something you can do to improve it other than simply riding.

>>16898457
super tenere, africa twin, nc700
now fuck off

>>16898435
madman
I'd be shitting myself the entire time
my little SR can't even do 60

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>>16898429
after I start braking my throttle will not open again until I've turned in (depending on the corner)

You don't brake for the corner then get back on the throttle, then tip in, then get off the throttle...then get back on it, that's overly complicated.

Brake and downshift, use the throttle only for blipping here.

(throttle remains closed)

turn in and taper off brakes

Take fingers completely off brakes at this point and move them to the grip.

crack throttle to stop decceleration

Maintain neutral throttle for middle part of the turn (this is longer or shorter depending on the corner, sometimes you will maintain a neutral throttle (neither accelerating nor decelerating) for a long time, other times it'll not really even exist and you'll start accelerating immediately, larger degree bends will usually have you maintaining longer).

Begin accelerating more as you tip the bike up on exit.

Repeat.

now obviously you shouldn't be doing anything as extreme as this webm on the road but that'll give you an idea of the sequence.

>>16898489
>Surely there can be something you can do to improve it other than simply riding.

read up.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByoCT0pZ82goMWswd1VEV1VSWVU/view

>>16898498
These are all impossible to find

>>16898488
they need to be loose.

Ever ridden with regular pants? How did you crotch and your ankles feel after an hour?

>>16898535
then stop living in a shit area. all three are easy to find around here

>>16898542
Good for you

>>16898464
boo fucking hoo

>>16898547
it is, i have a fantastic selection of bikes available here.
thusly i have 4 and will have a 5th in a month or two

>>16898274
>What's that?
Form your hand into a C looking from the side (make a duck with your hand, but with all your fingers flat). Put this over the throttle. Grip the throttle with your palm and thumb (remember you push the bars, not pull, so this also encourages you not to 'hang' on them). Fingers stay extended to clear the brake, if you need to brake you can curl one or more fingers to provide sufficient force.
Lazy road-riding variant has the thumb and first two fingers curled around the throttle, with braking done by the extended 3rd and pinkie (because why are you trying to do stoppies on the road anyway?) to easily provide enough grip unless you brakes are hilariously shit.

>>16898457
new here eh?

>>16898489
>Surely there can be something you can do to improve it other than simply riding.
coaching

>>16898507
yeah its not particularly safe. Being on the motorway is fine, just stay in left hand lane and cruise there, plenty of HGVs going at 55-60mph so I can just follow one at that speed.

The problem is merging onto it from the sliproad, because it is slow to accelerate and can't accelerate out of the way of oncoming traffic, so you have to be very careful and calculate it well.

I can't wait to be old enough to do direct access and get myself a proper bike.

Failed my CBT today lads. Press F for me

>>16898594
how?

Is this the first time you ever been on the road?

>>16898574
I left long ago because of this bullshit.
Popped in to see if maybe it changed.
It hasnt.

>>16898511
>(throttle remains closed)
But if I leave the throttle closed before entering a 70kmh corner I will arrive in the corner at 40kmh with my engine braking. Am I missing something?

Does this mean that I have to take it into consideration and brake less before?

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>>16898606
Leave and don't come back this time

>>16898591
you're on a prov+ cbt?

>>16898610
Ok. Stay pathetic while im gone.

>>16898608
>Does this mean that I have to take it into consideration and brake less before?
Yes engine braking is part of braking.
On a bike with a lot of engine braking i dont even use the rear.
(i rarely use the rear at the track anyway)

>>16898618
Will do, this is Channel 4 after all

>>16898457
dbt is basically a support group for people that don't have a bike, but want one.
Non-nobikes are busy actually riding (and dying because they got memed into a peter).
t. nobike

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We 2stroke supermoto soon hopefully

>>16898630
I have a bike
Im here because the sky is pissing.

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>>16898608
if you're going that slow and if you're that noob, don't worry about the front brake.

If you want to work on your body position and get some lean on then just don't go fast enough on the straights to need it.

I tell people this all the time if you want to work on your body position just ride around slow enough to not use the front brake and work on your lines and body position, just roll off and on.

Later you can add the speed and braking once you are comfortable with the sequence and cornering.

>>16898635
What app is that?

>>16898613
no I got my CBT, rode on L plates for a few months then decided I might as well do my A1 test since I am going to be using this thing for nearly 12 months.

>>16898639
>not riding in the rain
Fairweather wider eh?

>>16898635
>$1600
Thats a $500 bike

>>16898646
Kijiji, its like the canadian craigslist except it is heaps better

>>16898601
I've driven a car for 4 years. I'm still not sure exactly what went wrong. I was fine for the off road part, instructors were happy with me and said I was doing well. Got onto the road, panicked and lost control of the bike twice. They said I was dangerous and sent me home. I think it may be partly because I wore trainers for the off-road and then put on boots for the on-road. I wasn't used to them and was not able to shift properly.

Shame, really. I was having fun. Guess I'm not cut out for bikes.

>>16898651
fair do's
wondered why you'd get a 125 if you had a licence

I'm doing my direct access as soon as I can book my theory and I have no plans to get shut of my 125
it'll be weird

>>16898658
>Canadian
Also anything under $1000 is either chinese, 50cc or from the 80s

>>16898550
there wasnt a single fucking road that didnt have a trail of mud, shit and hydraulic oil on it today.

>>16898686
>lost control of the bike twice
>blames it on boots
Are you onion?

>>16898702
>I think it may be partly

Hardly blaming the boots. What do you mean by onion?

>>16896631
All of the Japanese 500cc+ ptwin road bikes will do 100k+ with regular maintenance, really. ER-6, TDM850/900, NC700, CB500, GS500, CBR500, Ninja 650 etc. etc. etc. It's more up to what you're looking for. BMW also makes good parallel twin bikes but I don't know how reliable they are.

>but new to me bike
>ride home was fine but it didnt feel as quick as i thought it would.
>change fluids, grease chain
>suddenly feels 2x as fast
Either the old oil was ancient, or that was one hell of a placebo effect.

>>16898720
Thank you

>>16898561
>remember you push the bars, not pull, so this also encourages you not to 'hang' on them
Interesting, I was trying to remain neutral and relaxed with my hands.
>>16898622
At what point should I go back on the throttle in the corner? You said when I get in but can you do a fast sketch or something please?
>>16898644
So I can also enter a corner staying always on the throttle if I carry the correct speed before?


Should I stay close to the tank or far from it when leaning?

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>>16898715
>What do you mean by onion?

>>16898686
>Guess I'm not cut out for bikes.
With this kind of attitude you aren't cut out for anything.
Practice a bit and you'll be good.

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>>16898720
>bmw
>unreliable

>>16898740
I feel like I would have been fine with more time off the road. I have no idea how people do this in a day, but obviously nearly everybody manages it so I must just be deficient.

I might try again because the instructors were nice enough people and I enjoyed it when I was in control of the bike, ha.

>>16898107
my winter bike got stolen
maybe on monday if it's not raining

>>16898694
cry me a river

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Hyperstrada, yes or no

>>16898671
no its the canadian ebayclassifieds and no its not better

canadian bike variety is shit compared to the states

>>16898758
>so I must just be deficient.
No, you're not, stop thinking like this.

Train on your own on a small bike if you can.

>>16898457

Stator aside, your pic would definitely be related.

And /dbt/ is an absolute shithole, i'd say it's even worse than than /dat/ these days.

>>16898773
europe - fine
north america - run far, far away

>>16898784
kijiji is a lot better than craigslist

>>16898727
Most people likely got put off by the scope of your question. It's like asking "what I4 is gud?" without providing further criteria. For your purposes, if it's Japanese, new(ish), 500cc+ and not beaten/neglected it's gonna fit the bill. The rest depends on what kinda bike you're looking for, for iron butt stuff it's gotta have good ergos so a standard/naked. If you want wind protection go adventure, e.g. the couple adventure bikes I mentioned (NC700 has a windscreen version, too, I think it's the X model)

>>16898791
nope.jpg

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>>16898787
Why?

>>16898797
Thanks

>>16898804
months long waiting list for service and parts, even basic warranty maintenance

>>16898819
also italian "reliability"

>>16898799
name one thing that craigslist does better than kijiji
[spoiler]you can't[/spoiler]

>>16898784
Kijiji is waaaay better

>>16898819
>>16898823
and retarded high memetax

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>>16898730
I prefer to stay nice and low on the tank.

My general "marker" is getting low enough to touch the forearm on the top of the tank but you're probably not gonna be able to do that on the naked bike with the higher bars so just get as low as you can without feeling like you're compromising your ability to operate the controls. I've never needed this but a lot of people recommend trying to just "drop your elbow" and the rest of the upper body will follow.

So in sequence:

So you get your booty off to the side of the seat.

You brake upright.

as you're turning in, lead with your upper body moving it off to the side and a bit down.

Keep your body leaned down as you exit the corner, only move the torso back when you're nearly upright.

ONLY move your bum back to the middle of the seat if you have a big straight coming up, if you have another corner of the same radius you can just leave your booty where it is and you've just saved some time and energy by only moving it once for 2 corners, if there's another turn to the other direction swap all the way over.

At a lot of tracks you'll only ever be in the middle of the seat down the main straight.

>>16898824
everything

I can get hookers a bike and tools all on one site

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Fireblade, yes or no

>>16898834
t. never used kijiji and is just making asinine assumptions

>>16898843
actually I have

I looked at several bikes in the small village of toronto when I lived in ny

>>16898853
oh, then you're just an idiot
that's fine

>>16898863
ill bow to your superior first hand knowledge of idiocy

>>16898866
no need to get all fedora now

>>16898832
I'll try.

>>16898874
>triggering intensifies

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>>16898879
Do or do not. There is no try.

>>16898892
Nice

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A guy on a bike hit my mirror while I was waiting at a red, didn't scratch or damage it, just tapped it with his elbow enough for it to fold outwards and snap back in place, didn't even stop, and kept going to the front

Got out, asked him what was up, he told me it was nothing and sped off, I did nothing since there was no damage it my car

Is this normal behavior or was this guy an asshole?

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>>16898804

>>16898908
He's an asshole and it is also normal behavior

>>16898908
I do this to every car I pass.

>>16898912
bananapete stop

>>16898892
You mean do or crash, in this case.

>>16898908
tackle his ass off his bike next time ya see him

thatll learn him

>>16898908
He's an idiot. Where are you from?

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>>16898912

>>16898934
This was in California

>>16898944
explains it. fucking worst coast scum

>>16898908
I've been on the other end of this, sort of
>babby's first lane split
>whoops, clipped mirror
>keep moving b/c not about to stop in a lane split
>move to left-turn lane to turn off
>car behind me is honking and gesticulating
>elderly couple
>"you hit our mirror!"
>oh shit lol
>turn off, they follow me, pull over
>"you hit our mirror!"
>wife is doing all the talking btw
>"yeah sorry about that my bad"
>fold mirror back into position
>take a closer look
>no scratches or damages
>"uh, it doesn't look like there's any damage or anything, it just folds back, see?"
>"well OK...but going between cars like that...that's just...crazy and very dangerous"
>drive off

>>16898944
Typical american.

>>16898953
Moving from Boston to California next winter. Will I regret it? The climate and scenery are desirable. When I visited I thought everyone was gunna be a faggot but it wasn't too bad

>>16898953
maximum overkek

>>16898975
the liberal faggotry is very undesirable imo

>>16898962
>>"well OK...but going between cars like that...that's just...crazy and very dangerous"
Why are americans always so stupid?
No seriously.

You should have stopped.

>>16898953
west coast best coast, cali is shit though

>>16899014
ill take stupidity over a collapsing middle class yurop

>>16898908
>no damage it my car
Well, all right then. Not sure why you are so upset. The last twenty or so cars that right turned in front of me / merged into my lane / cut me off seemed to feel fine about it because no damage to my skin...

>>16898908
You seek out a bike forum to complain about some random guy on a bike?

>>16898999
I don't really like people anyways and spend most of my time alone and naked so I feel like I will be alright

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>all qualifying cancelled in Qatar
>Combined practice times = qualifying

FUCK

>>16899032
Not him but im pretty sure theres a collapsing middle class in america too. And all thanks to commie liberal cucks.

>>16899030
That makes no sense cali is the majority of the coast. I'm sure Washington is nice but Oregon is full of hippys and gays

>>16899043
>>16899050
I wasn't complaining, I was asking whether the behavior about not giving a fuck that he hit my car was normal or not

Like I said, there was no damage to my car so I didn't care, was just looking for a "sorry about that" from the guy and was just waved off

>>16899050
Doesn't really seem like seeking it out to me. If he cares about his mirror like that he is probably a car guy, and I don't know if you've noticed this but dbt is smack dab in the middle of an auto image board

>>16898975
>When I visited I thought everyone was gunna be a faggot but it wasn't too bad
gun laws a shit, there is a certain amount of liberal faggotry, and housing prices will rayp u, but if you're coming from Boston you're used to all of those and at least the weather and topography are better

>>16899014
>Why are americans always so stupid?
t. too dumb to find his way to the track

>>16899096
if you remove a few key cities from the coastal states theyre all great, cali politics and taxes and cost of living are shit too.
oregon has portland which is just a giant shithole but the rest of the state is pretty good and WA has seattle/olympia

>>16899096
>cali is the majority of the coast.
strictly speaking, it's probably alaska

which is pretty based, but not a great riding state

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>>16899082
maverick wins lol

>>16899095
Eh >>16899014

>>16899032
I don't. Otherwise I'd be gone abroad 10 years ago.

Moving from Cali to Missouri. Cali sucks ass stay away unless you want a liberal "paradise"

>>16898107
I rode a mountain bike all winter, I'll probably get a dualsport and ride that next winter.

Canada isnt so bad.

>>16899154
Fuck off nobiek leaf

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>>16899117
>if you remove a few key cities from the coastal states theyre all great, cali politics and taxes and cost of living are shit too.
this is true about California as well, just to clarify. Cost of living (i.e., housing) is much less of a problem outside the major metros, and general liberal faggotry is only a problem to the extent that urban power centers control what goes on in the rest of the state (which is a considerable extent, but not total.).

Of course, the jobs are in the major metro areas where the faggotry is worst, so.

>>16899116
Yeah I'm moving to San Diego area so that weather will be awesome and the desert is crazy never seen anything like that before.

Not buying a house in the near future because I'm a poor scrub but rent in Boston is nuts even in the cheaper areas anywhere close to the city 1k per month per tenant is as cheap as you can find. And those places are dumpy. Don't have a gun I took a class for gun safety and it was sweet but I never got my license after that I never applied for it. Would like to someday join a range and get a ruger sr40 because they seem like the shit but even if I can't do that in California it will be worth it not freezing my ass off 5 months of the year

>>16899154
A
Fucking
Leaf

>>16899130
Alaska is americas frontier the only place you can be a drunk felon and people look at you like a crazy person if you do not carry a gun

>>16899144
OK but how are the twisties in MO compared to CA
also what job did you get there and how will the move affect your COL-adjusted wage

>>16899181
You cant ride in the snow

Vote again if you havent

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>>16899144
What the fuck is so much better about Missouri? It's practically got the word misery in the state name

unless you're into tornados or something like those adrenaline faggots on tv seems like there's not a whole lot there

>>16899168
There's a place called yolo California? It must be true the state must be full of faggots

>>16899199
Whos going to attend?