Miata General - /mg/

thinking about buying a Miata.

Not sure if I should get an NA or NB

>>16855515
NA with the 1.8 if you like flip ups.

NB if you don't care about flip ups

similar question. not sure if i should go for NB or NC.

I like the smaller size of the NB, but it feels more effeminate and they're older, so prob will need more frequent repair

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>>16856040
>>16856040
>like the smaller size of the NB, but it feels more effeminate and they're older, so prob will need more frequent repair

not at all. Miata's in general rarely need repair unless it wasn't taken care of.

Anyway I personally don't like the look of NC's so if I were you i'd go with the NB.

Also if you want to make look more masculine stop being insecure and buying the widest tires you can fit under it

>>16856040
NB familia

real thread here >>16855324

>>16857118
thanks for bumping my thread fampai

>>16856040
NC > NB
I've had both

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>>16857127
elaborate on why the NC is better?

>>16857136
comparing my 2.0 NC1 vs 1.8 NB1
>better power to weight ratio
>better chassis
>comfier interior with more features
>power retractable hard top
>less wind and road noise
>lower rpm at highway speeds

with both cars stock except with lowering springs on my NC, my best time at my local track in the NC is 3 seconds faster than the NB. i guess that's not really a scientific comparison though

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>>16857205
interesting

yuh

How are Miatas on maintenance? Are they easy to take care of, not as expensive? Say I want to work on it myself, how much of a pain in the ass will it be compared to other vehicles?

>>16857205
The only real advantage the NB has is aftermarket. But that's kind of a big one. The NC will never have the same aftermarket because so many racers skipped over it and went straight to the ND. Plus they'll never get so cheap because post-2000 cars depreciate much slower because of the "1990 was just 10 years ago effect."

>>16860819
Easy, cheap, and much easier than literally any FWD car ever made.

>>16860881
What's the golden rule on price, year, and mileage I can buy one?
I want to buy one where it's assuming still good, and not ready for major maintenance for maybe another year or so.

>>16860973
Buy new.
Seriously, it depends on the owner.

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>>16860819
ive owned every gen but the ND and theyve all been reliable and easy to maintain yourself

>>16860973
http://wiki.miata.net/tiki-index.php?page=Checking%20Out%20a%20Used%20Miata

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brump

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>>16861662

>>16861665
beautiful

>>16861892
thanks

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>>16863312
>connecticut plates
neat

>stance
meh

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Green Miata is the best. I just wish i had the money to convert the interior into the same as pic related.

>>16855462
>if you're under 6'2" and aren't overweight you can fit without modification

>tfw 6'3" and bulky
I should never have lifted

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l-lads...how bad is this rust?

is my car a goner?

>>16857624

Serious question, why do you constantly post pics of my buddy's car in these threads? I know the owner if that NC personally (initials are BM) and he has no idea what 4chan is, its really weird dude

>>16865027
please stop harassing me

>>16864800
just check the square foot nearest the visual rust
most likely it is just the bottom of the sill has worn though

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So I tightened my throttle cable today. I've had my '95 for almost 9 years and because the throttle felt fine I assumed it was. Well, I had a full inch of play in both directions so I figured why not try tightening it?

I tightened it as far as it would go, and there were still a few millimeters of play in the line and it did not change the idle.

OH MY FUCK what a difference! The car *feels* quicker now because there's more throttle opening with less pressure on the pedal. I'm almost convinced that I wasn't getting wide-open throttle before adjusting because it seems (slightly) faster at full throttle now. But the real difference is at low throttles where the pedal-to-acceleration action now seems more natural.

You guys need to do this, it takes less than a minute!

>>16865133
thx for the tip brotato. i'll do it now. how do I check if there is any play?

>>16865167
Try lifting the exposed section of throttle as seen on the right in that pic. There should be just a teeny bit of play. If you want to adjust it, loosen the two nuts and pull the cable to the left (loosening the right nut as you go) until you are at the sweet spot. Then tighten the left nut all the way to where you have moved the plate then tighten them both. Check to make sure the tension is still where you want it, then start the engine to make sure that idle RPM has not changed (idle RPM is where it's idling only when the engine is at max operating temp).

>>16865133
Electric throttle here bub

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Miatas look really fun to drive and I'm thinking of purchasing an older one when my current car dies or I simply get too tired of it. I'm looking st something like so, and around the same year. Also, would an even older Miata, like 90-98 be reliable to drive as well? At what amount of miles do these older miatas start to have problems?

>>16865188
cool, mine definitely had a shit ton of slack in it. i took out most of it but it definitely had the throttle sticking at 2k so i pulled it back a bit and this is what I got currently. it's definitely less slack than before and the idle isnt affected

https://vid.me/Pgma

>>16865460
Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by the throttle was sticking at 2k?

>>16865630
I turned on the car and it was idling at 2k. I know you said to wait until the car is warm to test the idle but I could 100% tell that this 2k idle was a result of the throttle cable being tightened too much.

What do yo uthink of the vid? Is that how much slack you have now?

>>16865704
vid.me/tQbA

Pretts similar. Weird that I had to adjust mine as far as it will go though.

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>>16865458
Honestly if you're going for an NB, go for an NBFL. Purely opinion, but I think they look a little better.

Pic related, mine. 2001.

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>>16865878
Before the retarded euro license plates. It's an import from Germany and used a stupid rusty bracelet to hold the license plate, so I bought a decent looking aftermarket one. Looks so much cleaner.

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>>16865894
Another one I got, also from 2001. Has 57k km. Blue one has twice the km's.

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>>16865878
>>16865894
As someone who believes 99% of cars look best in black, dear fucking god I'm jealous of that color. Oddly enough I sold the 370z for a white 335i too.

Also just a reminder to prospective buyers, the NB is a direct upgrade from the NA

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>>16865909
I really need to get a picture with both of these in it

>>16865909
>As someone who believes 99% of cars look best in black, dear fucking god I'm jealous of that color. Oddly enough I sold the
Thanks man, color name is Starry Blue Mica, colorcode 24A for the interested. Love it.

>>16865458
These things last forever but 162k is a bit high, would spend a little more and get one about 90-100k, also see >>16865909
>Also just a reminder to prospective buyers, the NB is a direct upgrade from the NA

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hi guys

>>16865034
I honestly would just like an answer, Brian would as well, he says his car hasn't looked like that for a long time

Any of you anons in Washington seattle area I'll sell you my miata for 500 buckaroos. Things a piece of shit but it runs and drives.

>>16866043
>162k is a bit high
I have a chassis with over 300k on it, and two more with over 200k. All three of them have running original engines.

Miata is kino.

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https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/6037917583.html
yay or nay? It's the only miata I can find in my area in my price range.

>>16866559
[email protected]

>>16866836
Nay, don't get impatient then regret your impulsive purchase 3 days later.

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>>16866927
But I want a fixer upper sorta. i want a car i can learn how to wrench with, but not too serious. It's either this or a 1500 accord. I kinda like it.
Is there any red flags i'm not looking at?

>>16866978
>learning to wrench
>needs a clutch
Also he obviously rear ended someone

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>>16866997
well yeah but I'm from a family of mechanics. they all know how to wrench except me.
Also the rear ended thing. That did throw me off but i figured it couldn't be too bad given he even replaced the headlights, and did the sleepy mod.

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>>16867028
im not too bright, but I feel like with a shop at my disposal, and a paint booth, it couldn't be too hard to fix.

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>>16856040
Older cars don't necessarily need more repair. I've had my NB for over a year now and I've literally done nothing but basic maintenance for it. The cars are super reliable unless you're a shithead and don't take care of your vehicles.

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>>16866559
Yo email me faggot, I want your gay car
[email protected]

>>16861662
What engine is that?

>>16866841
>>16867215
Before I email you cunts just a disclaimer the last guy who owned this was a full nig and put 17 inch rims on it. Honed the FUCK out of it, it was sold at an auction after being abandoned. The seals on the top leak so the seats are damp. It's missing the headlight button to flip them up so it's all manual (literally lol) mechanically it's ok, changed oil and plugs and all other fluids. Replaced front brakes and had the tires aligned. Speedo doesn't work so the miles are stuck at 160k and you gotta use your phone or the tach for your speed. It's got exhaust rattle. Dents in many places on the panels and the trunk leaks water so it regularly fills up and it's filthy as fuck. I have the replacement panels and the trunk interior but havn't put it in cause it's pretty gross(don't wanna clean that shit out). Also its 1990s so rust.

>>16867236
>Doesn't recognize a B6 in a Miata

>>16867037
Wait for a better one. Dont drive crashed cars.

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ok /mg/

I want to trade my daily for this and fix it the fuck up.

It's a '97 with 74,000 and the 1.8. Possibly LSD as well.

Problem is it's at a BHPH, and I want to trade my newer and more valuable vehicle for it. My current car is a Dodge Dart, worth about $9000 if I'm lucky. It's fully paid, but there's a time in a man's life when he decides he wants a Miata and that time for me is now. The minidubbs will be ironic fun for a while and then i'll chuck them on craigslist.

In this sort of situation, can I convince the dealer to throw cash at me for my trade, or am I guaranteed to get fucked?

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>>16867645

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>>16864431
I'm 6'2", mildly overweight and 240lbs.
I fit easy, good legroom but with the softtop up, if my legs weren't so long I'd be hitting the frame on small bumps.

>>16855474
>Giant sticker thingy on the windscreen
I assume it's perforated, but what man.
With sunset/rise all I have to do is not slouch and I can't see 100ft in front of me. Blessed cowl.

>>16867303
email me at the Yahoo email anyway senpai. I'm ready for shitbox adventure

>>16867645
Do not ever, under any circumstances, buy from a BHPH lot. That car has been through 16 owners and 16 repos. Besides, you're better off with selling your current car privately for 8-9k and buying a really nice miata off a regular person. A BHPH lot isn't interested in selling cars, they're interested in getting dumb people with not enough money to finance, then repo the cars. Avoid these places like the plauge

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>>16868031
Ok I know the memes thanks Longpost Guy

Place doesn't look like one of those lots desu, it's literally some rural guy flipping cars out of a shack. I will be on guard but I'm still gonna check it out because why the fuck not. The wheels should give it enough clearance to have a good look under it.

Gonna need a quick rundown on where to look for rust on an NA.

>>16867694
I have the same problem in every other roadster or coupé: if legs don't hit something, head does
>>16864800
cut it out and weld a new piece in there

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is it bad?

>>16867651
No power windows and cruise control means it doesn't have the LSD.

You're best off buying a leather car, since they all had

>>16868637
Not true, mine has neither and came from the factory with the Torsen.

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buongiorno

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Anybody knows what this is?

>>16855474
>that license plate

>>16868776
>living in Commiefornia

>>16868092
The sills. Especially towards the rear. You can undo the panel under the door with a Philips and check the middle of the sill with a flasghlight, but you can't look inside the rear. Check for any previous rust repairs by making sure the original shape of the sheet metal is the same. Cheap repairs usually alter the shape of the body slightly. Check this channel for clarification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmOogg5qIs

Apart from that you can guess from looking at the axles and control arms how the condition of the sills and framerails (no direct way to check those either) might be.

The wheelwells sometimes rust, too. That's not that big of a deal, but it probably means the sills and framerails are rustig as well.

>>16868771
looks like an extension for the top of the rear mudflaps

>>16868771
jdm

What are, in your opinions, the best custom/factory colors for a 94 Miata?

>>16868921
Do such things even exist?

>>16868092
>The wheels should give it enough clearance to have a good look under it.
When I'm checking out a car, I put a jack and stands on my trunk, if the owner has a problem with that and says anything when i'm taking them out(never ask, just do it), i put it back and drive away without a word

>>16868713
Unless it was added later, it was a part of the option packages starting in 95. Torsens only came on cars with cruise control, most of which were leather cars.

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>>16869133

>>16868596
lmfao

>>16867645
Honestly man, I would ignore the BHPH haters and just use your own intuition. The first thing you should do is grab the VIN and plug it into Vehiclehistory.com and look for any obvious issues like an odometer discrepancy or accidents.

A low miles 97 is pretty much the best possible NA you can get so it's worth keeping an eye on.

How much are they asking for it? It's probably worth around $4k-$4500

>>16869133
A package was a 94 only. It was popular equipment package after that which I mentioned.

He was talking about a 97 and since it doesn't have cruise, it doesn't have a torsen unless it was added.

Should I get the plate KAWAII? I really want a personalized plate and it's available.

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>>16869339
No. stop being a fuckin faggot ass weaboo

>>16869344
lmao you're on a chinese cartoon forum m8

reading these threads is like reading an advertisement acted by redditors.

fucking pathetic.

>>16869349
Are you a woman?

>>16869375
No, I'm pretty cute though.

>>16869364
>advertisement acted by redditors.
what?

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Was inspired by a NC anon from another thread and bought some tupperware

So, long story short i'm putting my old 1.6 back into my miata it had 179k on it, it was running when i took it out. Should i do anything to the engine while it's out that doesn't take alot of time/money i was thinking about just replacing my oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, i was thinking about the head gasket but i don't know if it'd take too long i've never done it.
I don't wanna wait to long on this because it is my only running car i plan on putting it back in latest Thursday
i just need it to last atleast 20k more miles or until i can buy another 1.8
Any help would be appreciated

>>16871364
If your head gasket isn't bad, you might as well wait till it is and replace it then. Not that much easier to do that when out of the car. Oil pan gasket and rear main seal are a different story though. I would do it if I were yu and could spare the time.

What happened to your other engine btw?

>>16866836
>Other then that the car is mint
Onion selling another shitty miata?

>>16871391
Thanks, for the advice

And about the engine i honestly have no idea i had just put it in doing the 1.8 swap and i went to start it, the starter was clicking but the engine was seized, i tried turning it myself but it wouldn't budge saw oil in the plugs too. i woulda kept it in and tried to fix it while it was in the car but i don't have another car to get to my work, So i just have to swap my 1.6 back in real quick

sucks though like 1k down the whole unless i want to rebuild it maybe it was just my fault so i'm gonna take another look at it while its out. hopefully all is not lost

>>16871430
Godspeed. On second though, if you are 100% sure you don't want to keep your 1.6 and it's not leaking now, might as well put it in like it is.

If you do decide to keep it and it starts leaking from the rear main or the pan you will hate yourself though.

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>>16855462
Why the fuck cant I find a white miat in the UK
I have never seen a white mx5, of any gen once in my life here

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>>16871523
i'm sure i've seen a few.

102 white mx-5s listed on autotrader right now, including this mk2 mazdaspeed

Sup /mg/.

I've been looking into buying a Miata recently and I just have a couple of questions.

>Why are NBs cheaper than NAs? Is it because of muh pop-ups or is there something wrong with them?

>What should I look out for when buying a used one off craigslist?

>What is the average price for an NA with a 1.8L?

>>16871560
Oh yea you right
I'm just talking about personal experience, 99% of miats I see in my area are forest green NAs

>>16871523
>>16871560
>>16871626
Thinken about a white miat myself. I have a black one and its a nightmare to keep looking clean, are whites the same?

>>16871608
yes pretty much bc of pop ups

rust.

avg price? depends ony our location. you can find one from 3k up to 6k

>>16871673
Mind taking a look at this ad and giving me any advice? I'm not looking for much of a project but if it's just the exterior and the guy can get it painted without some mop water paint I should be in the clear, right?

https://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/6039575116.html

>>16872025
thats honestly not a terrible price. It's a little expensive for what i'd pay. Especially considering it doesnt look like it has an LSD. For $2000 i'd pick it up.

>>16872025
why would you get that when these are available?

https://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/6052410091.html

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/6026484333.html

https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/6052006291.html

https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/6041553432.html

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/6018292750.html


I would not trust some craigslist $350 paint. wtf. are you thinking right?

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>>16855462
What color Miata should I get? I'm leaning towards either white or black, red isn't exactly my favorite. First gen of course.

>>16871608
>>Why are NBs cheaper than NAs? Is it because of muh pop-ups or is there something wrong with them?
muh popups
>>What should I look out for when buying a used one off craigslist?
rust
>>What is the average price for an NA with a 1.8L?
Get an NB; direct upgrade from the NA
>>16872255
Black, white looks good on very few cars and the miats is not one.

>>16872255
white and black are both hard to keep clean also no NA6 came black so look at NA8s

>>16872241
Nice finds. I only have up to $3,000 to spend. $3,500 if I'm sure I won't be needing anything terribly important soon.

>>16868766
fuck off with your 1 off miata you eurofaggot. kill yourself.

>>16872276
there's a thing called haggling its craigslist.

it's possible to haggle those prices down to $3k or somewhat near $2500.

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thinking about finally getting a miata for my daily... is it a viable thing? is the mpg good? what price range am i looking at for a muh headlights miat?
friend is slowly getting me to fall in love and after riding in his turbo'd miata im so close to just ditching my daily for this

>>16872296
I always account for the fact that the people that live here are Rednecks, old people, and college kids. they can't even spell haggling.

>>16872278
>>16868766

When I buy my Fiata are you gonna let me post in here?

>>16872524
make your own general and call it /fg/, you flaming /fg/.

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Guys I'm finally getting my RPF1's installed tomorrow and I'm so hype.

>>16872998
nice

>>16855474
ID on tyres?

>>16874883
Tread looks like Toyo R888

Are the automatics any good?

Inb4 just get a manual, well aware just don't care. This will be a daily

>>16875090
Which year/gen?

>>16875129
2001 1.8L
141k miles

>>16875090
On the NA/NB, the automatic is a piece of crap. 4 speed, slow shifting, shifts whenever it feels like it. NC I've never tried. ND is pretty good actually, but it's still a slow shift

>>16875138
terrible in this gen. never ever..

>>16872998
Wut size?
pls say 14x7

>>16875516
You got it, getting an alignment now.

>>16855483
Bruh if that's your ride I gotta know is the wing functional?

>>16855515
Depends. You should probably get the best condition, cleanest, low miles, well maintained one available. Either NA or NB is fine. A lot of people do mods to the NA that are stock on the NB. Depending on local laws, NA can avoid some emissions testing because it was OBD1 so if you want to turbo its easier.

>>16875696
not mine and of course the wings functional that is a track car mate not some random street car.

>>16865458
I got my '94 at 90k miles about 3 years ago. I've had to change the battery and replace the radiator/thermostat. Other than that it has had no problems at all. Follow the regular maintenance guide. If the old owner never did you will have to do a bunch of stuff (timing belt, water pump, etc).

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WAKE ME UP

How fast do you drive with the top down? I can't do more than 30 with the windows rolled down

>>16875937
what? are you trolling?

i easily go 80mph with the top down.

>>16875955
I mean on a comfort issue, not physical. It gets noisy and my hair flies all over my face

>>16875965
Grow a pair you cunt

>>16875965
cut your hair/wear a bandana

also stop being a pussy.

>>16875992
>wear a bandana
wew lads, i'm going to be 6'3 solid snake in a miata
can i get even more memey?

>>16876005
if i had long hair i'd rock a bandana but I rock a buzzcut at all times

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>>16872998
>>16875516
Almost ready. 8)

If i wanted to run a miata in my local rallycross series would the flyin miata 3" be enough to deal with the gravel roads?

>>16876371
Is the gravel less than 3" round?

>>16871523
I had a couple white NC listings near me when I was buying. Passed on them because everyone I showed them to said 'looks like a taxi'. Yea taxis are white around here.
Also white mx5s are gorgeous with bronze rims imho.

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>>16864800
Could be worse.