Daily reminder that Ford managed to make as much horsepower/torque

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Friendly reminder that GM has NEVER made a naturally aspirated production engine more powerful than Ford's 5.2l Voodoo, not even the 7.0l LS7 (which drops valves like mad btw).

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>>16825590
>>16825582
ford wins again

>>16825599
Horsepower wins races Lmao
Dont see any harleys winning motogp do we lmaoo

>>16825582
hp/weight is the only metric that matters

hp/liter is a useless metric

>>16825619
Theres horsepower at the crank

>>16825619

That's until aero starts to matter.

>>16825647
How about Lemans? Gm has never ever won lemans Lmao
And they lost to a Ford v6 last year too LMAO

>>16825646
larger displacement doesn't necessarily mean larger overall external engine size

>>16825646
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You got GMfags BTFO'D. Fuckoff GMfags and you're "real people" ads

>>16825612
I like your b8

A new generation car barely beating an old one is pretty impressive.

>>16825672
>GM made Lemans
GM makes lemons*

>>16825733

French accents...smdh.

>>16825733
GMfags on suicide watch

>>16825667
I know, I was just referring to the axiom that hp/weight is the only thing that matters. Drag squares with speed and power requirements go up with the cube of speed. Weight doesn't matter as much as high speed aero efficiency at high speeds for top speeds.

>>16825703
See above.

Isn't Pontiac dead? Mercury, ded. Saturn, ded. Hummer, ded. Oldsmobile, fucking old and ded. Buick is lucky because of Chinks but they are on death watch.
Only one dead Ford brand. Ford - 5 GM - 0

>>16825807
Oh forgot 1 for GM just to make you boys feel like "real people"

>>16825807

GM sucks for that reason.

>>16825582
And the engines are roughly the same size, with the LS3 being slightly smaller, so you ought to realize that hp/L is fucking retarded.

>>16825807
Cosworth - dead
Edsel - dead
Merkur - gay and dead
Zephyr - dead

>>16826103
Cosworth is not only still in business, but they still tune Ford engines. They were also never owned by Ford.

Ford just doesn't sell them with a factory warranty anymore

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>>16826103
>cosworth
That's a tuner like AMG was back in the day before Merc owned them, they still exist making aftermarket parts. They're like Roush or Lingenfelter but not making for OEMs anymore. They didn't only do Ford they worked with Mercedes as well.
>Merkur
It's a brand made for import models like fucking Geo

>>16825619
Not exactly true. You can scavenge for air and boost the potential of an engine with large displacement. But a small engine can only get *so* efficient.

>>16825661
>lost to a Ford v6
how is that funny at all?

A V6 is probably the best street engine.

>>16826103
>Merkur

that;s what you get when you have a company that's too scared to put it's name on am import

Hell, even when Chrysler imported cars from Mitsubishi (Japan) they put their badge on them while also acknowledging they came from Japan.

The Merkur was the result of poor marketing and it cost too much money

>>16825733
BTFO

Daily reminder that the fastest 4cyl powered drag car has a gm ecotec
Ecoboost BTFO

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>>16826664
gm has never won le mans

>>16826664
This shit talk is about OEM not what some fucker built in his garage, anyone can build fast shit. There's records broken every year plus a 3 Rotor has passed that cars record not in it's class though

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Daily reminder that a Cobalt SS Supercharged is faster than a Fiesta ST
Daily reminder that a Cobalt SS Turbocharged is faster than a Focus ST
Absolutely BTFO

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>>16825590
So you prefer natural aspirated engines, to supercharged.

>>16825733
Well you got a point.

>>16828867
Who doesnt? if both produce the same power, na is always preferable,

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>>16826401
>V6 best street engine

>>16827144
>cobalt ss
I want one of these, but can never find them.

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>>16828889

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>>16826670
>Needing $400,000 car to win a race.
No wonder gm lost.

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>>16825582
reminder Ford needed 4 camshafts to do what Chevy did with one.

>>16828676
Huh that's not a cobalt.

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>>16828899
Saturn Ion Redline, gauges in the center, plastic body panes and suicide doors, but otherwise the same car underneath.

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>>16828907
t. assmad gm fangirl
>>16828908
reminder gm has never made a more powerful forced induction production v8 than the 5.8l in the gt500

>>16828917
>gauges in the center
god dammit man i just cant

>>16828886
But the 5.2 voodoo makes less than lt4, ls9, lsa.

>>16828917
Did they do a turbo?

>>16828931
I have a base model Ion. You get used to it.

>>16828900
Don't you people fight turbos better than supercharger. And those cars were not designed for street, but for sport.

>>16828933
reading comprehension. gm hasn't made a more powerful naturally aspirated production V8 than the 5.2L Voodoo in the GT350.

>>16828926
Lt4 is more reliable, cheaper and makes more torque, but less hp.

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>>16828937
no. Ion was kill in 2007. Turbo came out in 2008.

There was a turbo HHR SS which also used the same chassis. And you could get it in a panel truck body style for maximum retro.

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>>16825582
But Ford's dual cam V8s are enormous and require a pigfat lolcantturn to fit them, while Chevy's V8 will fit in a chassis worth using.

>>16828941
But like I said why would you want a natural aspirated engine that makes less power. Is it just because its natural aspirated.

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>>16828951
>lt4 is more reliable
it literally isn't. it's plagued with overheating issues.

>but less hp
keyword. Nobody needs the extra torque to haul your fatass around.

>>16827144
>>16828899
>>16828917
>>16828953
why won't they make another FWD "ss"?

>>16828960
>it literally isn't. it's plagued with overheating issues.
on early models. Problem's been dixed memer.

>>16828958
that's not the point. gm hasn't made a more powerful naturally aspirated production V8. that's the point.

>>16828957
But amazing sound of 4 cam. I don't have a ford but it's still nice.

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>>16828969
according to gm. the same people who said the corvette could lap the ring in under 7 minutes.

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>>16828926
>gm has never made a more powerful forced induction production v8
>>16828941
>reading comprehension. gm hasn't made a more powerful naturally aspirated

>>16828960
Even if it's not reliable it's still more than the 5.8, and are you saying torque doesn't matter because if so you are retarded.

>>16828984
Fuck different replies nvm

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>>16828978

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>>16828984
those are both completely true statements. You realize that, right? ABSOLUTELY BTFO
>>16828986
gt500 makes more power. gm hasn't topped 662. stay mad and inferior.

>>16828971
That's because it's easier to make a better supercharged, that's why ford only used the 5.2 for one car

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>>16828992
>fake lap times
corvette never went around willow in 1:25.

>>16829000
Needing more power, maybe because it's low on torque.

>>16829006
so you admit gm can't compete?

>>16829012
it isn't low on torque. not everyone is 500 lbs like you are

>>16829014
Compete with what being smaller.

>>16829028
not ford. gm fangirls btfo

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>>16829020
Okay that's why almost every preformance engine have high torque, for fat preformance drivers.

>>16829030
But Camaro is faster than mustang

>>16829038
>amerifats in charge of reading comprehension

>>16825618
you're a retard. harleys don't make shit. my ktm 990 adventure makes 140 full tune and i can race and beat pretty much any production sportbike anywhere. horsepower matters.

>>16829047
ford gt is faster than z06. lol

>>16829051
Kid do you even know what torque is.

>>16829055
A bugatti is faster than ford gt, it's like the price of a car changes its performance limits.

>>16829062
stay btfo
>>16829070
>admits gm can't compete
stay btfo

>>16829075
gm makes airplane engines.

stop this fanboy shit. different engines do different jobs.

>>16829075
>stay btfo

Look guys I did good I said words.

>>16829095
>>16829094
>>>16829075 (You)
>gm makes airplane engines.
>stop this fanboy shit. different engines do different jobs.
STAY BTFO
>>16829094
>>>16829075 (You)
>gm makes airplane engines.
>stop this fanboy shit. different engines do different jobs.
>>16829095
>>>16829075 (You)
>>stay btfo
>Look guys I did good I said words.

>>16829103
A company alone doesn't even make a fast car. It's a bunch of companies and maybe even a dude in a garage. Many different machines working together, and a patchwork of build philosophies.

Stop.

>>16829103
Two different people but okay.
Calls other people fangirls but is on a CAR board.

It's okay lil fella, ignorance is bliss.

>>16829113
>>16829122
stay btfo

>>16829122
I'm leaving he is boring

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>>16825582
>Daily reminder that Ford managed to make as much horsepower/torque in 5 liters as Chevy did in 6.2
Daily reminder, GM does more with it ;^)

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>>16829141
>gm does more with it
yea, lol. except win le mans.

3.5L V6>5.4L V8
lel

>>16829161
>caring about lemans

literally a marketing series for retards.
you must love it

>>16829161
>Twin turbos and newer.
fuck how does it do it.

>>16829192
Kek
you should change that to minutes judging by how obsessed my stalkers are with me lately.

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>>16829182
>gm can't win a single 24 race at le mans
>hurr it's for retards ;__;
lel.

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>>16829161
lel, this post triggered the tripcuck hard

>>16825582
>Ford
>Fix Or Repair Daily

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>gm fangirls ragequit
couldn't compete (just like the corvette)

>Ford
>Found On Road Dead

>>16829223
>ford gets btfo irl
>but muh fake racing series for maketing!

Lol

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>>16829283
gm btfo itself irl. lol

>this gm fangirl delusion
hilarious

>>16825582
i know razors with 4 cylander hondas with more hp i guess you can just about make any power with any engine

>>16825582
b-but muh no replacement for displacement

>>16825590
>flat plane crankshaft.


ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

I am a diesel person.... but I just wanted to stop in and remind you that this argument never ends and that you're a bunch of fucking children.
>ford never built a 2 stroke diesel
>GM killed off the 2 stroke diesel

You're both shit.

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>>16825582

>Americans caring about power per liter

Go to sleep eurofag

>Ford
>Fail On Road Daiy

bumpj

>ford
>fix ot rgain dony

>>16828951
Lt4 is super charged, larger, heavier and a massively unreliable pieve of shit

>>16831886
>first on race day

>ford
>fixed on race day

>Ford
>Forgotten Old Rusted Daewoo

>>16832723
but daewoo is gm

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Reminder that neither of these companies made the fastest production race care ever.

>when the best engineers in detroit work for tony

Feels bad, wish consumers weren't such stupid cucks.

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>>16825582

Daily reminder.

>>16832752
>Forgotten Old Rusted Datsun