I just learned to do brakes Shit is soooo easy why do shops

>>16801302
Judaism

>>16801302

>Mechanics wire

Because they know people are stupid/lazy and don't want to do it themselves. Once you get into the nitty gritty of it, it's actually comical how much money mechanics make.

Their entire approach to it is intentionally vague.

"Oh, you need a brake job"

"Oh, we need to do your brakes"

Here, we can "do your brakes for $700"

What exactly does that mean? New pads? New rotors? Fluid flush?

>Tfw I've seen ladies with expensive cars get upcharged to $2k for a brake job
Women.

I tried working my brakes, changing the pads.
multiple attempts of flushing with brake fluid, still got air in the system.
had to take it to an actual mechanic to help me out, was kind of embarassing..
never again.

>>16801302
>time and labour

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>>16801302
Because people dont learn it

I'm doing the brakes of my Hilux this weekend (rear drums, rear shoes, front rotors, front pads and fluid), and I asked my local shop what they'd quote me.

Their quote; $830
I ordered my parts from Milner Offroad in England, and with shipping + 25% tax the total came to $140 dollars. Brake fluid: $15

Thats $830 vs $155

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When you do a disk brake job yourself do yourself a favor and use this on the pads. Apply on the contact point and on the non abrasive side, helps prevent shit from seizing or being too loud.

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>>16801302
>doing brake pads
>first wheel is ez
>2nd wheel take out lower caliper bolt
>half the bolt hole threads come with it still wrapped around the bolt
>bolt tightens halfway then spins and won't torque down
>have to wait for someone to take me to vatozone so I can overpay for a DURALAST™ replacement because I don't have time/vehicle to go hunting for a used one or wait for something better priced to ship to my house

A-at least I'm still saving money /doing it myself/, r-right?

>>16801814
Most passenger car mechanics make about 1/5 of the labor rate. Out of that they are required to pay tens of thousands just to be able to have the necessary equipment in order to perform their jobs.

So you are actually complaining about a hard working man that is lucky to net $30,000/yr after work related expenses. You're unironically complaining about a man making basically minimum wage and you're somehow getting fucked? Im so fucking glad I don't work on cars because I would murder so many customers.

>>16801302
Because most cars are hub over rotor for some retarded fucking reason. Enjoy dismantling your entire suspension to change a fucking brake disk.

How much should full new breaks cost? My car failed the MOT and it needs all new breaks

>>16803154
The problem isn't the mechanic, it's the system that forces them to jew the shit out of customers just to make minimum wage while some old motherfucker that's never turned a wrench in his life sits back in an air conditioned office and watches the money roll in.

>>16801814
An average tech will spend over 35k in tools in their career time. Im apprenticing at a shop right now for hourly pay and its fucking terrible. You get into a shop for flat rate and if youre a shitty tech then there goes most of your salary. We start out making not much more than a Private in the armed forces. You may see stats about how master techs make 80-100k+ a year but thats either bull shit, outdated, or theyre 30+ years in already. Plus you have to spend more money on tools yourself to do it, then you need all the torque specs, and then you need to make sure you bleed them etc etc.

>>16803187
It's called operating a goddammit business. Do you really think it costs a dr. $75,000 to remove a tumor? Like LOL all you need is a knife and a needle.

Why does it cost $150,000 to build a house when the materials only cost $50,000?

If you can't understand the basic concept of a business you should probably move to a communist shit hole like Canada or something. Maybe they have socialized car care.

>>16801302
do brakes?

>>16803245
it's called inefficiency throughout every layer of society

>>16803265
Maybe we should get the government involved to streamline the whole process!

>>16803265
So people must work for less money?

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>>16802621
>I'm an incompetent retard, therefore, nobody should work on their cars

>>16803291
>Too much money is siphoned out of the system by people that don't add value to it
>Therefore, I must be arguing that people who add value should be paid less
Just wait until you've had a job for a few years, kid. You'll see what I'm taking about.

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>>16801302>>16801814
>it's actually comical how much money mechanics make.
Yet the mechanics cry all the time about paying to do repairs when it comes to warranty jobs. They are still making money but are "spoiled" at not making obscene money from non-warranty jobs. Down the street, the mechanic retired and he made $77K per year after taxes. He liked to kid with me about making more than I did despite my college education.

>>16803365
ROASTIE BTFO

Should have gave her space to back up

>>16801302
Because they can.

>>16801882
Apply this directly to the rotor for an extra quiet ride.

>>16803365
I don't know what your definition of robbery is, but paying a person who works for 10 hours only 2.3 of those hours fits squarely into mine.

ITT: people thinking the mechanics see any of your money.
That's not really how it works, as a flat rate tech you can expect to make 14-35 dollars an hour -full stop- but you get paid by labor hours.
As a wage-tech you get paid whether your working or sitting on your ass.

The labor rate collected by the shop is usually between 60(mom and pop) and 250 (stealership).

There's a standardization for labor hours across the whole fucking board. If Ima Rapeyourwallet Chevrolet wants $180 to put fresh plugs in your 08 3.4l Equinox and Forgot Datbolt's Tire Mansion wants $45, they're still using the same labor hours. The stealership's tech made $10 on the job, so did the mech at the tire shop who took twice as long as the tech. Neither saw even half of the gross, but the tire mech came close to seeing a quarter of the net profit.

>>16801814
>thinks mechanics make money
It's funny. The ending salary for a master tech and the starting salary for an automotive engineer are about the same.

What mechanics make is comical, but for the opposite reason than you think.

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>>16803365
>tfw woman drivers

Dealerships aren't making that much money off brakes or tires.

>>16803441
>The ending salary for a master tech and the starting salary for an automotive engineer are about the same.
Maybe in the Midwest, New Mexico, etc. in super low cost areas that happen to have Toyota, Nissan, etc. factories, but like any skilled labor job the pay will vary a lot based on region while salaries for engineers and managing positions in an auto company are fairly uniform. There's plenty of techs making $90k-$100k, I highly doubt you are going to get a $90k salary straight out of school to design cupholders in Solidworks

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>>16803480
Has your krsc arrived yet?

>>16803365
>This one mechanic made a decent wage so they're all obviously money grubbing whores

It's pretty uncommon for a mechanic to make that much, and that's not even a lot of money.

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>>16801302
I just did brakes in my ram 3500. It was pretty annoying since the caliper bolts had stripped heads. It's also one of those vehicles where you have to disassemble the wheel bearing to get the rotor off. And the rotor is also the hub so they cost more

>>16803172
You're going to have to be more specifc.

The whole system, from pedal to each wheel would be thousands to replace at a shop, or a fuckton of time and ~$800 DIY.

New pads is like 1.5 hours and $80

>>16803497
Yeah haven't taken a picture of it, I like it, the only downside is all the wasted space on the sides, it would be great if you had to have 10 3 foot pry bars but other than that it's just a lot of empty space, not the end of the world everything else is perfect for me just have that one gripe

>>16803480
>There's plenty of techs making $90k-$100k, I highly doubt you are going to get a $90k salary straight out of school to design cupholders in Solidworks
With a bachelors in Electrical Engineering, and a bachelors in Mechanical Engineering you're gonna start off at around 80k. Add a masters in one field, or the other, or both and that number climbs to about 90-100k. Get a doctorate, learn French, German, or Japanese and 100k is the minimum starting salary.
I did the research before I decided I was too old, and had to take care of the family now, to go back to school. Got my ASE certs and I'm happy enough with that.

>>16801814
> it's actually comical how much money mechanics make
It's comical how little they make for the work that they do.
The average mechanic makes something like $36k a year, and they bust ass. Shit like tool costs, utilities, rent for garage, etc. all really eat into that column marked "labor".

Not to mention that after 25 years, you're going to have failing joints and a half-functioning back. I've seen it firsthand. My uncle is an escalator mechanic, and the past 30 years of bending, kneeling, straining, contorting, etc have really taken a toll on his body and joints.

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>>16803521
I use long pry bars pretty often so I can't complain. I dropped something in one of the holes the other day and assumed I could remove the bottom drawer to access it but nope. I had to fish it out with a magnet. I really wish some of the holes werent quite as wide though. There's maybe room for like 6 screwdrivers in all and like 10 slots for pry bars which is weird af. I think some guys put their ratchets in there which I really just don't care for.

>>16803316
>imblyng

>>16803536
That's all if you get a job. I can't speak for every car company since I only have experience with one on the manufacturing side but to even get a $28/hr internship you need a masters, and there's no guarantee you get hired after working a year or whatever they do. You're also extremely limited with where you can work geographically especially in the US.

>>16803570
Yep the hole setup doesn't really make any sense, I might drill out some more holes, so I can fit 10+ screwdrivers in a small area towards the front of the box on each side, we'll see, not quite ready to start modifying it, have to see what I really need out of the space first

>>16801302
Fucking shop said they were giving me a deal for new calipers/rotors for $1000. I laughed, said I'll figure it out.
Bought the tools
Jack
Jackstands,
New pads and rotors

Total came out to like $650, took a few hours. Couldn't get the front rotors off though, theyre held on by the caliper bracket and the bolts holding those on are so tight I couldn't get them off. No room to get my breaker bar in there either.
2005 F150 RWD

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Because sometimes everything is seized and you find shit like this

>>16803510
As long as those bolts came off, not that bad. The nice thing about 4wd, sealed hubs that don't include the rotor.

>>16803154
>30k NET a year
>minimum wage
Son...

>>16804373
Net is after taxes, not just expenses. And most people don't have substantial work-related expenses unless you count student loan payments.

>>16803378
Not that anon but I'm new to /o/ and shit like this makes me nervous. Like, eventually I'm going to read something here and not realize that it's a joke

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>>16801880
>25% tax

>>16801882

Or don't buy cheap shit pads that don't have the rubber damper on the back.

>>16804641
Welcome to Norway - do you want an extra slice of tax together with the obligatory housing for 4 000 refugees?

>>16803280
no, the government and bureaucracy is obviously a huge part of the problem

i'm just stating an unavoidable fact

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>>16801302

>tfw RX7 brakes were even easier than my 2002 Corolla

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>>16801814
>mechanics
>making comical amounts of money
Holy fuck I hope you're joking

t. poorfag tech

>>16803191
>have a job that pays jack shit
>have to buy your own expensive tools
why

>Be me, try and change my own damn brakes without any power tools because I'm a broke fuck.
>Get the first bracket bolt off with some force, end up rounding the second one.
>try the other side, couldn't even get anything to budge over there
>manage to get off the second rounded bolt, get a new one and put on that brake.
>bring the second brake in to a shop to get fixed, they discover that I managed to break some suspension part while struggling with the other brake
>400$

Fuck sakes, what power wrench is the best?

>>16804563
it's a joke, remember common sense. It's like spraying paint over your rotors.

>>16804780
do you just use the old pad and a pair of channel locks and clamp down with the outside of the caliper?

Every single 4 pot piston caliper I've ever touched was painted so it was always a pain in the ass trying to get the pistons to go back together while using the pad as a lever. I really should get a proper retractor tool for fixed calipers, but now I'm a weekend warrior so who cares.

>>16801827
This may shock you, but expensive cars usually carry expensive parts.
It costs me just under $1k in parts for one of my cars.

>>16804843

For my 2002 Corolla, I used C clamps to push it back in, with the FC calipers, I used a flat head wrapped in a towel so to not damage the edges.

>>16804825
An impact wrench won't fix your shitty sockets.

>>16801302
labor and time. also machining.

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>>16801302

They charge a lot because brake jobs are how they make most of their money. As more people switch to electric cars you'll see mechanics charging more for other maintenance to make up for their losses on brakes. You should learn how to mount and balance your tires too.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1078383_mechanics-worry-electric-car-brakes-will-ruin-my-business

>>16804970
>machining

maybe if you buy cheap shit pads

>buy cheap shit pads
>keep little snappy sheet metal things from the last set because the new ones don't fit
>pads stick a little, it's okay, just add grease
>actually pads stick a lot
>fuck fuck
>go back and file the tabs on the pads down

>>16801302
you pay for experience
>do brakes in shop
>you can pretend those guys are reliable and you won't die
>do brakes yourself
>live your life in constant fear of sudden high-speed emergency braking using some tree or other car when your amateur brake job finally shows its true colors

i'm not saying it's wrong to do brakes on your own, but that's the reason why shops charge a lot: their experience reduces chances of failure

>>16804843
>he doesn't just jam a screwdriver in between the pad and the disk and use it as a lever to push the pistons back

I bet you don't get your disks machined, either.

>>16805030
>maybe if you buy cheap shit pads

>he wants to put brand new good quality pads on disks that have been glazed, are covered in hot spots, and have an uneven surface

>>16805234
Putting good pads on old disks is actually okay, since new disks can have a coating that fouls good pads, and vice versa

Just turn them (unlikely to be necessary) or sand them a bit (always fine), then go bed that shit in

>>16805292
>since new disks can have a coating that fouls good pads
Yeah, oil. It stops them rusting while they're in storage. You're meant to use some brake cleaner or whatever solvent you have handy to clean it off.

>>16802621
You had a fucked caliper, the same thing would have happened to a shop mechanic and they would have charged you even more for a new caliper + labor.

>>16805195
also liability if the failure is due to their error

Just did some late night brake pad changing in the rear myself.

>forgot to pick up the cube socket thingy to twist the piston back in
>use pliers to twist them
>hurts like hell because the driver side gives a lot of resistance
>remove rotor and reattach caliper to trailing arm so it stays put and lets me put torque on it
>passenger side twists in much easier

Test drive was gud. I need to get that socket next time around and stop making shit hard on myself.

>>16805502
>he doesn't have rear drums
Pleb

>>16805505
I'll stick with discs m8. My Civic came with drums from the factory but a previous owner did me the favor of putting in Integra brakes all around.

My 94 Corolla has drums though. I'll have to learn how to do them at some point. I did watch the huge ChrisFix video on them at least.

>>16805512
Best thing to do with drum brakes is to leave one side alone while you do the other side, that way you can use the untouched one as a reference.

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>>16803549
>The average mechanic makes something like $36k a year,
I made that at a muffler shop in a shit hole town. Nobody that is a mechanic makes less, there goes your average. There does seem to be a barrier at around 36k'ish.the next step is somewhat large.

>>16805512
I've had my new drums sitting in my basement for months desu. Can't be assed to figure them out haha

>>16805517
Yeah when/if I end up doing it, I'll be doing that plus taking a lot of pictures. They seem to last much longer than discs though so who knows when that will happen.

>>16805520
My co-worker told me last night that he needs to do his drums in his junk Chevy Malibu. I wished him the best of luck.

>>16805523
A good thing you can do for them without actually replacing them is to just pull the drum off and spray shit down with brake cleaner. Helps a lot

>>16803191
My friend installs clutches all day at around £200 per clutch, they supply the parts how is that a bad wage? He can generally do one in around 2 hours, so that's $125 per hour, cash.

>>16805530
Brake cleaner does wonders. I need to attack my dirty engine bay with it sometime.

>>16801302
Watching a Chrisfix video doesn't count as learning anon

>>16804695
>Having a social safety net with open borders
Why are western societies so fucking dumb?

>>16805029
>You should learn how to mount and balance your tires too.

>bought winter tires, performance low profile
>Tried to install on rims myself, couldn't do it
>paid auto shop to do it
>took 4 guys 3.5 hours to do all 4 tires with a machine
>paid $10 a tire.

Low profiles are a bitch to do, just pay someone with a machine to do it.

>>16805553
It actually does though

>>16805512
>Corolla has drums though. I'll have to learn how to do them
Get your hammer ready. Especially if the drum is worn the fuck out.

>>16804695
First thing these yuros blame now are the refugees, last time it was the EU and their regulations.

God damn maybe you should blame the import and engine capacity tax your dumbass country built itself around, not saying museslims aren't bad but they have nothing to do on the price of brake shoes and pads over there kek

>>16805771
lmao I tried taking the drum off a week ago and it was coming off in chunks. I think it was "worn out" years ago

>>16801349
>judaism

Fucking. UNDERATED!

Top Kek

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>>16805772
Of course they do, you fucking cuck faggot.

Kill yourself.

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>>16804771
86 breh

captive rotors are worse than hitler senpai

what rotors are they?
i've recently obtained some fc calipers and adapters, but no rotors

>>16805876
On your own, lad.

>>16805891
he's right tho.
taxes in yurep have been rape long before the refugee thing started

>>16804820
fun

>>16804862
You are a retard. I've done all 4 corners on a cayenne, pads and rotors, including labour, OEM spec parts, in rip off central Australia, for $1400. Roughly the same on a a special edition jag with brembos all round. I doubt your rapemobile is anything particularly expensive.

>>16801800
Well, it's his.

>>16801302
>some teenager on /o/ opened up hid 2016 brand new car his dad bought him
>MECHANICS ARE SCUMS

Yeah go ahead. We like to see someone like you fuck up really good then cry into the shop

>>16805971
Mechanic detected

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>replacing the brake disc involves removing the entire knuckle
almost bought a car with this shit, ended up getting a good ol corolla

>>16805971
Slow day in the shop, huh?

>>16805995
Absolute shit. Why do they do this to us?

>>16805971
Lmao always get a kick out of mechanics assblasted that people are doing their own work

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>>16806004
koreans

>>16803245
It costs 75,000 due to supply and demand and liability.

It cost 150k to build a house due to skilled labor costs. If it only costs 50k to build a house then go build you a house for 50k.

You are just being difficult or ignorant.

>>16805195
Oh come the fuck on, any idiot can swap pads & shoes.

>>16803280
just because the government in america is deliberately set up to be a disastrous failure doesn't mean that's the only way it can be

>>16805971
You are scum though. Right on the same level as divorce lawyers.

it still takes time. jobs charge you mostly time.

>>16806008
>>16805973
>>16805997
>>16806045
Kiddo just wait until your uncle gave you a 95 ford all seized rust box then you'll snap some shit
This industry at current year is very fairly priced.

>>16805772
I blame my government and the EU for letting them in, but I'll blame them for acting like spoiled kids

>>16804245

Fire is your friend.

>>16803154
I've been a licensed tech for 4 years in canada at a Mercedes dealership (no i dont drive one even though I can get it extremely cheap. Theyre just junk) they gave me most of my tools as an apprenticeship gift I guess. Had to spend about 5-10k afterwards to get all the fancy tools I like. I make about 95k a year right now. With that said I'm trained in sprinters and smarts as well so I get a little better pay. They let me work longer hours because we're a high traffic shop. After taxes and all fees and dues I take home about 60k. Not sure what the other guys make and how much the foreman/master makes though.

>>16804245
Turn the steering wheel anon

>>16804563
Don't read something on /o/ then blindly follow, it's pretty simple really

>>16804825
A "power wrench" is just going g to break more shit anon. Learn 2 rench

>>16805541
But is he pocketing 125/hr 40 hours a week? No

>>16806302
>tfw you realize his friend makes $260,000/year to install a clutch

>>16804252
so whats wrong with this pad?

Ase master in metro detroit. I grossed 78k last year, hoping for 80+ this year. Wrenching 12 years, cracked 60k after about 5 years in the business.

Tfw cant do most of my car shit because my apartment complex doesn't allow people to. I may try it but have no clue how to tell when my breaks are in need of replacement.

>>16801302
i was a mechanic for 10 years, just recently jumped ship after oil took the plunge and was laid off.

i made decent wage, about 40k y/r however i worked 10 hour days in 110 degree heat here in california. Tools are outrageously expensive unless your making 100k a year and can set aside 20k a year to buy up everything you need and pay it off later.

Cars and especially diesel trucks are getting far more complicated than we could have ever imagined. 8 egt sensors, 4 nox sensors, 4 pressure sensors and a DP mass sensor? all in the fucking exhaust?

you can thank obama and the other treehuggers for killing the diesel industry singlehandedly, and they are the sole reason why you cant buy a base model diesel truck for under 40k which is outrageous.

im just waiting for someone in north dakota to die due to an emissions problem shutting the engine off and leaving the person to die in sub zero temperatures.

>>16807021
diesel a shit for anything that isnt a generator or semi truck

>>16806963
You have to look at them to tell. Or just wait till they're screeching

>>16805492
This is what I meant with that last thing. It's frustrating, but knowing it could have been worse is a bit comforting. I was gonna do a flush anyway. Whatever I spend on the new caliper pales compared to what some shop would do with that situation.
>hey we found a problem so we replaced your entire brake system that'll be $700 plus tip :^)

>>16803307
See above

>>16801302
There are these things, they're called overheads. It's something businesses have to consider.

>>16801349
>this shiteating shittard thinks it's wrong to charge money to do things people can't do even if they're easy

Fuck off to reddit with your communist ideology shit.

>>16801302
You're paying for a rendered service that you are either incapable of or unwilling to do, it's one of the core tenets western society. Congratulations, you just learned something about the world you live in.

>>16807045
Not really... That's a nugget of shit so nasty it could only come from the basement dwelling hellhole of a tripfag

>>16807045
Old school IDI pump diesel is nice to have in 4WDs, but the newer common rail shit is just way too much of a hassle to bother with.

>>16801349
as always, fpbp

>>16805541
They charge 200 but they don't make that much. A good amount goes into shop fees, taxes, etc.

>>16801814
That's literally the entirety of how society works.

The whole idea of society is that people can focus on doing what they do well and pay for other people to do everything else.

Complaining about this is like complaining about how IT is paid to sit around and do mostly nothing.

>>16801302
>why do shops charge so much ?
Because of the health hazard. Brake guys used to get paid pretty good in the old days because of the occupational hazard of being exposed to asbestos dust, metallic particulate etc. plus liability etc etc That trend carried onto today.

>>16801880
don't drive a fucking meme next time. toyota brakes suck fucking ass too-- the worst I've experienced in an automaker, i can't imagine why tercel pads on a full size landbarge would cost 8bills

>>16802621
the markup on the replacement part from the shop would've been insane. Yes, you are saving money

>>16803365
>Yet the mechanics cry all the time about paying to do repairs when it comes to warranty jobs. They are still making money but are "spoiled" at not making obscene money from non-warranty jobs

Yup, they're on par with wait staff that cry when they don't make bank from tips. Fucking shit of the earth.

>>16805029
>http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1078383_mechanics-worry-electric-car-brakes-will-ruin-my-business
lmao boo hoo we can't over charge for brakes.


I do my own brakes and have the auto part store turn my rotors too so they don't jew me over.

>>16806116
>t. salty blue collar cuck

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>>16805029
"And because cars are better built and longer-lasting now..."

Aaahahahahahahaha

Is this what people really believe?

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i reckon that 30% of the work i get at my shop is from shit cunts like all you butt hurt fags who fuck shit up and come to me to fix it. and of course im going to charge you because i have to sift through your amateur attempt to repair or modify something fix your fuck uop and then fix the cause. dont fuck with it and you wont get raped.

>>16801302
Now do drum brakes.

>>16801302
because the overhead is not cheap.

>>16801851
If you did it right you would have to have flushed it, unless the fluid was oldl.

>>16809044
Literally the easiest thing in the world

>>16809064
No the easiest thing to do in the world is shitpost.

>>16809064
i bet you do it wrong

> Be 18
> Have a car I paid $100 for. 1989 Plymouth Colt
> Take to 'trusted family friend mechanic'
> Tells me it needs a new clutch and a gas tank
> Quotes me $2000 to fix or I could just leave it there and he'll be a nice guy and scrap it
> Didn't realize I could have gotten at least me $100 + tax + plates back in scrap

I looked up clutch and gas tank for the car and it was like $200 total in parts. I wish I wasn't retarded at 18.

Same guy...

> Come home from college and front struts on 2003 grand am go.
> clunk clunk clunk
> He qoutes me $580
> I pay it because I listened to my dad about it being too much to do
> Look up parts he used, $135 for parts
> Charged me $400 for labor

Fuck off. Every 'mechanic' I meet are the hillbilly high school almost drop outs that couldn't do anything real in life. This fucking guy used to charge my mom $75 for an oil change in a 2006 Jetta.

> Friend owns a shop
> He charges $100hr in labor and people pay it for him to do stupid work to their broken subarus and garbage rx7s

Don't give me that shit that mechanics make no money. If you don't, you're fucking stupid.

The Honda repair center wanted me to pay $1000 to replace two power lock actuators and a switch in my honda accord. That's retarded. The pieces cost like $50 total. How hard is it to do myself

>>16809123
sounds like you are just a dumb cunt

>>16809151
3/10

>>16809151
should probably expect to pay about 1 hr labor at normal shop

>>16809151
> $1000
https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-to-repair-a-door-lock-actuator-by-marvin-sunderland

>>16807185
>$700

I was quoted $1100 for front and rear rotors today

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>>16809433
I thought I was using an exaggerated number

>>16809433
What car?

>>16809450
2010 Pontiac g6

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>>16809444
>exaggerated

Ha, but no

>>16806615
The small rock that was stuck in it, and the part where it crumbled at the touch. It wouldnt go back in without more pad falling off.

>>16810379
Its what happened with >>16801880 also

>implying people want to get their hands dirty
>implying people want to take the risk of fucking something up on their brakes
so they pay the money instead, open a shop if you think you can be the bigger kike

>>16809123
>Didn't realize I could have gotten at least me $100 + tax + plates back in scrap
Only if you can tow it in yourself. Usually junkyards charge more to tow than they pay out.

>I looked up clutch and gas tank for the car and it was like $200 total in parts
Those are both jobs I'd generally consider to take a weekend each as an average shadetree mechanic. It doesn't sound like you wrench on your car, so believe me, that's a reasonable price for the amount of labor it is. Even if he's able to do it all in 5 hours, it would probably take you 20+, which would be better spent working to pay him to do it.

>>16810194
Chick I used to work had a husband who was clueless about cars but loves his Alfa's so much he wouldn't trust 'cowboy' mechanics with it, getting those virgin mary blessed quarts of oil from italy for oil changes, etc.

>Anon, is $1400 a good price for brake pads and brake disc replacement?

I was stumped, who the fuck has the balls to charge that? You could completely rebuild all 4 calipers, all 4 rotors and all 8 pads for that kind of money at a normal, non ultra-kike-extreme workshop.

>>16810611
What kind of alfa though? If it's an older one, or god forbid one with inboard rotors, labor is a pain in the dick. Add to that the fact that it's an alfa, so it's likely that every single brake line and fitting leaked and was stripped

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>>16809123
Do you people seriously think that mechanics get more than a quarter, at most, of the hourly labor rate that most shops charge?

That labor rate, along with the markup on parts, goes towards things like:
>Workshop managers
>Secretary(s)
>Electrical bills
>Water bills
>Phone bills - workshops get and make a shitload of calls each day
>Advertising
>Paying for specialty tools and equipment, plus scan tools
>Maintenance on hoists, equipment, computers, etc.
>Business, property, and whatever the fuck other taxes are involved in running a workshop
>Numerous types of insurance
>Registration and maintenance of loan cars
>Education and training of mechanics, depending on the shop
>Paying for various workshop manuals and online information
>Padding the boss's pockets

I'm sure there's a few others that I don't know about or have missed, but that's the gist of it.

Just as an example, it costs around $5000 a day to operate the workshop I'm at, which has three regular mechanics, and that's before anyone working there gets paid or any profit gets made. Learn how businesses work, you fucking redguard.

>>16810194
$20 oil change? is that right?

>>16810503
That was probably more than one rock

>>16811091
not him but a lot of shops around here offer cheap oil changes just to bring you in so they can try to say something else is fucked and needs to be fixed.

>>16811125
include filter? must be no frills oil too

>>16811091
Yea, the oil change was fine. Id do that myself but i live on a large hill with no driveway at the moment and on street parking blows ass

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>>16801880
I'm doing a complete front big brake upgrade on my Mustang (brembos and 14" rotors) for less than $400

>>16801827
Take an m3 to BMW and get any kind of brake job done. It won't be cheaper.

Muh OEM parts....
Implying they care. They will just charge the fuck out of you.