Redpill me on Cadillac. Are they as good as BMW and Porsche and

>>16797960
No, but I still like them anyway.

t. wigger

>>16797960
Better than a Porsche, cheaper to repair than a BMW, less expensive than a Mercedes for a comparable level of features.

Lately, they've made a name for themselves for having, at their top trim levels, the best handling "luxury" cars. Interior-wise, they're still not on the level of Germans in offering luxury interiors, but they don't charge out the ass for things that should be standard like Germans do.

>>16797960
>redpill
>luxery
typical /pol/tard, can't even fucking spell

>>16798012
can black people afford luxury cars?

go back to /pol/ and use google

>>16798028
Have you never been to the ghetto? Brand new Cadillacs everywhere. Drug dealers and Welfare scammers make more money than the average middle class person.

>>16798051
back 2 reddit mate

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>>16797970
You're not alone, nigga.

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>is a union shit niggermobile as good as porsche

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>>16798107
>is a glorious american VEE ATE sedan better than an overpriced beetle

im sure the answer to this is obvious

>>16798122
overpriced Beetles are much better

that much is obvious

>>16798057
>>16798057
>>16798107
so if I buy a used one theres like a high chance it will smell like the black guy who couldn't make his payments?

>>16797960
Better than german trash.

OK but nobody has actually posted anything of substance here. Just memes. I need the real answer about this brand I may buy a CTS. Are they sporty?

>>16798248
The CTS-V is sporty. The CTS is not.

>>16798248
>>16798299
The CTS is sporty, but the CTS-V is sportier. Neither are luxe-barges like Cadillacs used to be. And that's terrible.

>GM

lol

>>16798000
>Better than a Porsche
>a fucking caddy

t. Never ever driven a Porsche.

Holy shit lol.

>>16798367
you want a lux barge?

I was thinking of getting a 986 or a 135i BMW but a family member is selling a 07 CTS for a great price so I'm considering it but I'm looking to have fun driving it daily.

Cadillac seems like it finally rebuilt itself into a nice brand but idk if a CTS is what I'm looking for.

I have a family member who works at GM and they give a family discount if you buy GM.

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>>16797960

I plan on buying a cts coupe by the end of the year.

Im going to get the regular cts and not the cts-v since I live in the city and I heard that the v is a horrible daily.

>>16798086
What year is that?

>>16798431
gotta be before 08

>>16797960
>Are they as good as BMW and Porsche and other luxery brands?
better because Cadillac is American

>>16798431
92

>>16798400
>07 CTS
If it weren't for CUE it'd be good for a daily.

>>16798057
>welfare scamming

This would be my full time job if I were not a Christian. Easiest money in the world

>>16798418
>Im going to get the regular cts and not the cts-v since I live in the city
How does that make it more suited to a city? You'd still need something smaller to be logically fit for that purpose.

>>16798057
There are more Mercedes in the ghetto than Caddies

>>16798107
Never wanted a Porsche.

>>16799212
what does that mean

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>>16799393

I meant to say im getting the regular v6 coupe instead of the v8 cts-v coupe

the v is awesome but im not going to be able to use all that power within the city and this car is going to be my daily.

>>16798057
You're wrong.

These people just overspend to pretend. I know like 3 laquishas that have 90,000 loans from switching escalades every 3 years yet they live in shitholes.

Even more common are the Jamals with 10 year old mercs or rusted 300c's that they can't afford to maintain.

At least the Joses buy poopras or Hondas. They may rice them to shit but I guarantee you they at least know what they're talking about.

t. works non profit in a city

>>16800807
Bling is a lifestyle unique to the ghetto. How can they even maintain the interest on their loans?

>>16800314
First generation CUE interface, Cadiallac's touch-screen interface, is a real shit. It's really slow and buggy and a pain to navigate. It's literally the Gizmondo of touch-screen interfaces.

>>16800575
>no regular V8
>just a stupidly high powered supercharged V8 and a plethora of weak V6s
What the fuck were they thinking?

>>16801832
You can't have a naturally-aspirated V8 in the Land of the Free anymore. Environmental regulations coupled with a lack of GM research dollars means that existing V8 engines simply release too much NO2 and methane into the air for catalytic converters to scrub clean, hastening the death of Mother Gaia.

>>16801938
But how can a supercharged v8 be less polluting?

>>16801964
Because it's more efficient. It burns the fuel it uses at much higher temperatures in smaller quantities, meaning that gallon for gallon it drives longer and uses less gas which means fewer pollutants over the lifetime of the car.

Really though, this whole climate change nonsense is all about trying to make us European and socialist.

>>16797960
How can you even compare them to Porsche? Porsche makes 2 seater sportscars while cadillac makes huge niggermobiles.

>>16802011
Porche makes huge niggermobiles too tho

>>16802011
Porsche is literally an SUV company that just happens to sell cars on the side.

>>16802020
>>16802047
Cadillac is famous for huge niggermobiles though, while Porsche is famous for making sportscars.

>>16802057
>porche
>sports cars
Uh huh

>>16799244
>>16798057
Nobody cheats the welfare system. You're just racist. Don't you know that more whites than blacks are on welfare anyway?

interior wise? no
value wise? used to be, but not anymore
performance wise? fucks bmw in the ass at this point, but that's because bmw stopped caring years ago

and this is modern cadillac, last three years

>>16798248
A cts/cts-v is sporty
A porsche is a sports car

>>16803469
would a reg CTS drive like a miata but bigger or will it just feel like a boat?

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If you can tolerate GM's meme-tier interiors then get a V with 3 pedals

>>16802098
>13% of the population is black
>more than 30% of people on welfare are black
But it's the white mans fault anyway.

>>16798000
>Better than a Porsche
kill yourself

>>16798122

i'll take a porsche v8 over an american v8 anyday.

>>16798418
I love my '07 3.6 liter; with all the handling goodies it's sprung like a corvette.

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Let's not get carried away here.

1) Caddy is not even targeting Porsche with any part of its product line.
2) Porsche has seriously done fucked up by diluting their brand with SUVs and 4 doors. Sure, revenue may be higher, but the brand's purity took a hit. Your opinion may differ, but this one is mine.
4) Styling-- Euro is Euro and American is American... pick the one you like and get over it the other. At least Cadillac is not making stuff that looks like everyone else's stuff.
5) The CTS-V is capable of some pretty serious numbers-- 640hp/630ftlbs,15.4" / 14.4" rotors f/r, 0-60 in 3.8s, 1/4 mile in 11.8s, .98G. At VIR, well...
>In our all-time LL rankings, the CTS-V’s lap slots 0.9 second behind the 2011 911 GT3 RS and 0.6 quicker than the ’06 Dodge Viper SRT10. (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/cadillac-cts-v-at-lightning-lap-2015-feature)

<- If the V and V Sport cars are not "sports cars", they are certainly hanging with some legitimate company.

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>>16801832

"hi". Bros Coyote and Hellcat may stop by later...

>>16807796
>brand purity
That's literally just marketing. Why get upset about it? The 911 is still a 911 and the Boxster and Cayman are unchallenged in their segment. What the hell does the existence of the Cayenne have to do with the sports cars besides funding development?

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>>16798000

They are not so bad if you like edges...

>>16807833

>What the hell does the existence of the Cayenne have to do with the sports cars besides funding development?

Porsche makes great sports cars for sure-- no argument. Adding mom-mobiles seems as desperate a grab for sales volume as a fwd Benz, Jag SUV or, say a 4-door Porsche.

What's the problem with just doing what you are good at and letting the others do mommy cars.

>>16807796
>The CTS-V is capable of some pretty serious numbers-- 640hp/630ftlbs
not for long though, https://www.yahoo.com/news/2016-cts-v-not-yet-one-two-punch-163032425.html

>>16807850
>mom mobiles
Lol.. I see plenty of mothers driving them. But you know what other demographic I see driving them?
Suited up eastern european gentlemen.. Its a fucking mob car

>>16802098
>someone says that welfare scammers can make a lot of money
>someone else says they would be welfare if it wouldn't make them feel guilty
>as a liberal it is my job to magically insert race into the conversation despite no-one mentioning it, and then saying that the two people talking about welfare are racist
>I will then obviously misrepresent statistics which are actually supportive of the counterargument to my point, but I will remove any relevant contextual data, so that it looks like it supports my point

>>16807864

Southern California... South Florida...
Pretty common, actually.

>>16798010
>can't even, fucking, spell.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to spell while you're fucking. Also, learn to punctuate.

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>>16805875
why can't murrican companies design a decent interior?

>>16807953
The materials themselves are nice and soft everywhere. It's the ergonomics of trying to use capacitive buttons while looking at the road along with the horrible CUE system. Modern Cadillacs are performance luxury and not luxury performance.

>>16801821

They can't. That's why even rims get repoed.

>>16807850
They had to do it to survive. At least they still worked to make cars like the Cayenne and Macan perform as well as possible instead of simply swapping VW badges for Porsche ones. In a way, making good performers out of fundamentally flawed is what Porsche is best at. It gives drivers good options in those niches, too. If wifey delivers an ultimatum to get a crossover (or if you're a real-estate broker who has to cater to women as part of your job), at least you can get one with decent handling dynamics.

>>16808003
The materials are nice but they're used in service of making clusterfucked eyesore interiors.

>>16808062

> They had to do it to survive.

Uh, no.

> Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, usually shortened to Porsche AG (German pronunciation: [ˈpɔʁʃə] ( listen)), is a German automobile manufacturer specializing in high-performance sports cars, SUVs and sedans. Porsche AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, and is owned by Volkswagen AG, which is itself majority-owned by Porsche Automobil Holding SE.

>>16802098
Ha, one of my co-workers quit because the manger reported her wages and she was going to loose benifets. She then picked up another full-time job under the table and continued her government subsidized life. (Yes she is white)

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>>16797960

They arguably contributed more than everyone except mercedes

Had a rough spot in the 90s and mid 2000s

Pretty great now, would really love an ATS-V or CTS-V

>>16808224
I actually "technically" cheated the welfare system two months ago. I got a full-time job but they wouldn't pay me until 3 weeks into the job and I was down to my last $200, so I got into SNAP and got $150 that fed me until I got my first paycheck. Problem was, my full-time monthly gross pay is above the SNAP limit and after I sent in the proper paperwork they cut me off. But I got 1 month's free benefits! Thanks Obama!

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>>16808150
What fueled Porsche's success in the early 21st century and enabled them to buy VAG (Porsche AG was renamed to Porsche SE back in 2007, when they had become more hedge fund than automobile maker in their attempt to take control of VAG) was the massive success of the Cayenne, which debuted in 2002. If they hadn't done that, their sales would likely have entered a terminal decline, as the popularity of the Boxster (introduced in 1996) and of sports cars in general was tailing off in a big way. They certainly wouldn't have been able to finance that lovely clusterfuck that resulted them in technically being in ownership of VAG but also being owned by VAG.

The Cayenne and especially the Macan are now big contributors to VAG's bottom line. The same thing goes for the Audi Q series. It's quite possible that if Porsche were to get rid of their SUVs, VAG would not be able to turn a profit.

In the end it's all about the VAG I guess.

>>16801832
>TT V6 420hp is weak

Sure whatever you say champ

>>16808237
this