Let's say blue car crashes on red car, who would be at fault?

If they are side by side, blue. Why would you not avoid a car you can clearly see?

>>16789943
Blue.

>>16789943
Blue is merging turning. In most cases the car turning is at fault.

If both cars are doing opposite of what their current lane is intended to do, then they're both at fault. ????

>>16789943
blue
>changing lanes in an intersection
>this diagram appears to be all lanes straight unless turning right

>>16789943
It would be blue, but every traffic eneginer In there right mind it make a dedicated turning lane to go right, and the rest straight so shit like this don't happen.

>>16789974
It looks like it's OK for red to go straight through.

this is some retarded shit right here, have they never heard of traffic lights / roundabouts?

>>16789943
Usually, if blue lane can turn, red lane must turn. Where are you at that this is not the case?

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how bout now?

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>>16790170
wrong pic

>>16790170
This makes it more complicated
In my head since blue still hit red, blue should be at fault?

>>16790174
This example doesn't make any sense because no real life road looks like this.

>>16790278

Come to Pittsburgh or several other shit American cities.

>>16789943
Blue. If you turn into another car, it's your fault.

a cop would right a ticket for failure to yield to right of way and changing lanes in an intersection to both of these drivers

>>16789943 depends on the intersection. If the left lane is for turning only then yes they would both be at fault but if not all the blame would be on the blue car.

>>16790174
2 lanes to 2 lanes, even if skewed. It looks like red's still doing the right thing.

>>16790048
This, if it was a turning lane then opposite side of the intersection would not have road to drive on, or be a median.

>>16790375
you can only catch one car at a time

>>16790375
How is this failure to yield to right of way?

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Superior Roads

>>16790347
No, if the left lane is a turn lane, there would be three lanes, and two after the intersection. That drawing is crap.

If anon is wondering if someone is going straight in a left turn lane, and gets hit by someone turning left from a straight lane, then they're both at fault. They both get tickets and split cost of damages. Hopefully both are stripped of their licenses, cars scrapped, and both are shot and bodies burned to make sure neither will ever do that stupidness again.

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not OP,but what about now?

>>16789943
>>16790174
>>16790170
>>16791175
why can't both be at fault?

>>16790675
>It looks like red's still doing the right thing.
you're right, red would be a special kind of retarded to say that they were going straight and not left, and who's to say red wasn't just turning wide anyways

red would only be at fault if the collision was out of their lane

>>16791186
insurance rates?
Only one officer present at the scene?

>>16790170
Red is at fault here. The law says (at least here in yurop) that when merging lanes, cars coming from the left lane must yield to those coming from the right lane

>>16789943
Is the left lane marked turn-only? Is the center lane marked as a turn lane? I assume no to both. In that case, *probably* only the blue car driver would be liable. Truth be told, in most crashes both drivers are somewhat at fault.

>>16791198
then it will be 50:50, or maybe a bit more for the blue since it bumped into red.

>>16789943
Blue for turning in a non-turn lane

>>16790170
Blue for turning in a non-turn lane

>>16790174
Blue for turning in a non-turn lane

>>16791160
Ayy Michigan Lefts!

>>16791175
Eh fuck it, Blue for turning in a non-turn lane.

How is this even an issue? In every case blue has turned into red.

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>>16789943

>>16791369
>OP in charge of designing intersections

>>16791381
>doesn't mark the only lanes that matter in the discussion

>>16789943
The highway engineer.

>>16790174
Blue at fault

Always give way to the cars on your left when LHD

>>16789943
you've given us this info:
>two cars at a cluster fuck 6 lane x 6 lane intersection
>red car goes straight
>blue car turns into it
>who is at fault
It's fucking you for asking a retarded question

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>>16790174
Why aren't these lanes marked?

>>16791160
Everytime I'm driving with someone out of state they complain constantly about Michigan lefts and how much they hate them, despite being the superior method. I can't stand it.

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>>16790042
>eneginer

>>16791160
Good video explaining why also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshW_O_XggI