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How did you guys get good at smoothly shifting into 1st? I'm

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How did you guys get good at smoothly shifting into 1st? I'm still bouncing a bit going out of first and I'm afraid of staying on the clutch too long and wearing it down faster. Also, an tips for smoothing out my 1 to 2 shift?
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give it a touch more of gas and pull the clutch faster, as for 1-2, im not sure, it should be already pretty smooth, if it's not you're probably taking too long to shit and your revs are probably a little low, so tap the gas a bit
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>>16786934
How long are you on the clutch from the point at which it starts to bite to when you lift your foot off the pedal?
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If you want smooth it has to slip a little.
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>>16788784
Yeah, this is basically what I have concluded too. I have never felt anyone else drive manual before so I don't know what the norm is but I slip the clutch for a solid 2-3 seconds when starting from a stop. It's the only way I can make it semi smooth.
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>>16789023
That's basically what you're supposed to do anyway.
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>>16789023
That seems long. I'm not super smooth, but I'm not so harsh as to be uncomfortable, and I figure about 1 full Mississippi (1 second) from clutch bite to foot off the clutch, with a bit of gas through the whole second. I have a no power shit box though, I imagine it would depend on the engine idle torque and gear ratios a bit.
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>>16786952
3sec
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>>16786924
I practised.
It helps that almost every time I've driven a car in the last nearly a decade of driving, it's been a manual and I've had to use a clutch.

Currently learning clutch control on a motorbike. Again, practising. Intentionally going into slow traffic uphill so I have to crawl along and hill start.

It's really not hard. Just do it like your instructor told you.
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>>16786924
you're really not going to do any noteworthy damage to your clutch unless you're holding it in while revving to the mid-upper range of your tach and holding the revs there for ~10+ seconds at a time

>>16788784
>>16789023
>>16786934
all of these are good pointers to keep in mind as well
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>>16786924
From a standstill I just slip the fuck out of it. I hold it at the biting point for a good 2-3 seconds before letting go while keeping gas at 1-2k rpm. Better than lurching from not keeping it there enough

As for shifting to 2nd smoothly that's a bit trickier because my clutch wants to grab the flywheel immediately at the flywheel giving some bounce. Normally I shift at 3k rpm which is around 18 mph in first but is like 1.8k rpm in 2nd.
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