No mods and no selling. If you had to pick a stock 2017 Mustang

the miata

Why is the camaro so fucking ugly?

g80 sport

>>16748466
Probably the mustang. I'm not even a Ford guy but the Camaro looks like a bloated and disproportional. Seeing where the Camaro has been and where it is now makes it more apparent. plus I heard the visibility in those Camaros are shit.

Both are complete shit. Mustang looks better but the Camaro is faster. Both would get dunked on by a GT-R.

>>16748466
Probably the mustang

Camaros arent good past 50-75k miles, chevy REALLY cheaped out on a lot of vital components and it might not be very apparent at first but it will be once you get into the higher mileage. The mustang could probably last into the 150k mile range without any major problems, which is better, but still a far cry from the 200k+ an RC-F, IS-F, or GS-F could do with ease.

>>16748466
ive been thinking of buying a mustang, but lately the camaro has been stealing my mind. im thinking ecoboost vs camaro6; i'm still leaning towards the mustang because it looks more like an european car desu, not some ugly block of metal the camaro is.

however, stock GT vs 2SS i would have to drive them. the mustang handles well, but the interior of the camaro is miles ahead of the mustang.

all in all i think i'd go with the mustang if its 2015-2017 (dont like the new one) but if 2018 definitely the camaro in krypton green.

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I'd kill myself because both are ugly pieces of shit

>>16748507
whew lad

>>16748466
Camaro has far superior driving dynamics. Mustang literally only has visibility.

>>16748479

Anything is fucking ugly in yellow. It looks a lot better in real life though still a little whack.

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You HAVE to get the mustang. It has to be the 5.0

>Rollin in my 5.0 With my ragtop down so my hair can blow

Just the fucking name. CAMARO. You fuck your sister in that car? Gross.

Mustangs have heritage. It is literally a classic movie star.

Now look at the companies. GM is shit, their best car is a fucking plastic chips ZR1. For makes and made the ford gt, a 400k hypercar.

The choice is obvious

>>16748466
>mustang
Fat fuck in a hawaiin shirt

>camaro
Ayjun in a "muscle" car

I don't know which is worse

>>16748661

I'm assuming you usually get sent to the principals office when you say "fuck".

Im going to get a V6 camaro. The exhaust sound is fucking awesome.

>>16748669
>Kletus Wifebeater detected

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I would take the camaro IN AUTOMATIC

because holy fuck.
the autotragic in the new camaros is so fast.

>>16748661
Mustangs are for queers and serial rapists

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watermelon

I actually have another question related to this but wont make a new thread.
Why are older Rustangs and Slowmaros considered classy, whereas the new ones aren't?
Like John Wick had both a mustang and Camaro in the movies, but they were the old ones and looked badass.

>>16748466
Camaro. Aside from visibility and trunk opening size, there are no downsides.
>decently fuel efficient
>455 HP for straight line brawls
>12.3 1/4 mile vs 12.9 for the Mustang
>Actually handles well. Mustang doesn't despite IRS.
>Magnetic Ride Control means comfort when I want it, performance when I need it

Sure, the Camaro doesn't have the pleb-tier assists like automatic braking, but I prefer it that way.
With the Mustang, you need to step up to the Shelby GT350 to get the chassis comparable to the Camaros, and by that price point, the Camaro ZL1 blows it away.

>>16748703
Classic isn't the same thing as classy. All someone thinks when you roll by in a 69 Mustang is that you may or may not have a Cialis in the glove box.

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>>16748466 (OP)
Camaro because it performs better in every way.

>>16748495
It's funny because the Camaro weighs less.

>>16748703
Because the old ones didn't look like bathtubs.

>>16748466
Mustang without even a second thought.

Why?

1st out of principal, Ford didn't have to borrow a chassis from an Australian counterpart to make it.

2nd comfort. As someone who has worked for a Chevy dealership and has driven hundreds of Camaros they are absolutely a bitch to sit in, they aren't comfortable and unless you're a manlet you will never have enough head room. I have never ever had head room problems in any mustang. My height is 64 for reference.

And 3rd reason. You could hide the fucking death star in a Camaros blind spots. they are absolutely impossible to see out of. I have never had sight problems out of a mustang.

>>16748626
>Camaro has better handling but im gonna drive into a fucking tree because I can't see shit out of it.

ftfy

>>16748810
>>16748810
>Ford didn't have to borrow a chassis from an Australian counterpart to make it.
The Alpha platform was made by Cadillac.

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>>16748810
>1st out of principal, Ford didn't have to borrow a chassis from an Australian counterpart to make it.

Holy shit, he is serious right now

This is the typical mustang driver everyone

>redesign the Camaro and completely ignore the biggest complaint people had with it
Is Chevy trolling us?

I'd take the Mustang. I don't really like camaro's. No real reason behind it. I just like the Mustang more.

>>16748880
They were just doing what their core buyers wanted.
>They legitimately addressed the common complaint
>Costumers said they'd rather bad visibility than fundamentally change the exterior design of the car
For those who the visibility is a turnoff they weren't committed to buying a Camaro anyway and for those who were most excited about the car completely changing it the exterior design would've put off the only core buyers they had. Not as Iconic as the Mustang and doesn't have the Badge of a BMW so they had to be mindful not to piss off their buyer base.

Basically they were damned if they do damned if they don't.

Mustang. If I have to drive through a big city the visibility would make me very nervous. Also the Mustang has more trunk space so it's a better daily.

>>16748507
>gtr is LITERALLY 3x more expensive, and ONLY automatic and AWD instead of RWD

wow excellent comparison. I'd honestly rather take a Camaro SS or Stang GT over a GTR

>>16748936
>>Costumers said they'd rather bad visibility than fundamentally change the exterior design of the car
>they'd rather bad visibility
>they would rather look cool than see where they are going

And this is why I am onvinced Camaro drivers are all inbreds and/or dindus.

>>16748655

idk bro, the camaro is very discordant. it's like they all got drunk one night in thailand and designed a car.

>>16748703
Wick didn't have a camaro though. Wasn't that a chevelle?

Both look ugly af. I'll go with this.

>>16749019
>I'll go with this.
>nothing
same, tbqhwy

>>16748936
>For those who the visibility is a turnoff they weren't committed to buying a Camaro anyway
Maybe I'm in the minority, but tank visibility is literally the only thing keeping me from considering a Camaro.

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>>16749019
Oops forgot pic

>>16749006
Didn't John Wick get a Charger at the end of the first movie?

>>16749053
Yeah it was a charger at the end but at the beginning when the dickless guy from game of thrones stole his mustang he got I think a chevelle from the clown from spawn

>>16748514
>ecoboost vs camaro6

He asked about the GT vs the SS m8

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>>16748956
Sadly that seems so. although it could be that the fifth gen Camaro already attracted an audience for that design after the Camaro had been all but gone for almost ten years and when they brought it back in 2010 they had to market it and the Transformers Movies centainly helped. They ligitimately overlooked the visibility flaws and offered to fix it in the later generation only to realize that design was already recognizable by their audience and changing it would mean trying to build up market for what looks like a completely different car.

Mustang hasn't really slipped production for so long so its market didn't die off like the Camaro.

>>16749043
>Maybe I'm in the minority
You most likely are. unfortunately the majority who usually go for the badge (and to be honest the Mustang badge has some significant meaning to people even across the globe) dictate what gets produced and what doesn't. if the Camaro didn't make a comeback when it did it probably would've been far too late to attract any buyers even with good visibility and everything else people could want since people only want what the cool kids are driving and we probably wouldn't have got this godly chassis since GM would've assumed there just wasn't enough interest and that's a shame.

I'll go with the mustang gt because i like visibility i sat in the camaro and hate the tiny windows bunker style view made me feel claustrophobic, the mustang is the better dd but if you care about speed going fast go with the camaro

>>16748466
camaro because it's faster and looks cooler

The FIVE POINT OH is legendary in music. Mustang #1.

What songs feature Camaros? Kid rock?

>>16749233
What music talks about Mustangs? Some Florida Georgia Line faggotry?

>>16749260
>Bitches don't know bout my 5.0

Camaro, because it's safer in small overlap crashes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xu9DoG3Gak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTj4yDKcRJk&t=1s

>>16749329
You think /o/ cares bout safety ratings? All these autists get moist over slammed Miatas.

>>16748466
Camaro because it isnt a ferd product, other reasons need not apply.

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>>16748810
I literally had a broken spine and my camaro was more comfortable to sit in than my office chair

>>16749438
>had

>>16749438
No more black penis, said the doctor.

>>16749450
Well as you can see from my handy dandy photo, it is no longer broken, just held together by titanium bolts, a titanium plate and a small mesh screen full of broken bits of one of my vertebrae to replace the disc that isn't there anymore

>>16748514
Do not ever buy a non v8 pony car. It will create in you the epitome of trim envy

>>16749329

Both of these cars will go 0-those tests don't fucking matter at these speeds in under 10 seconds. 400+ hp will get you into trouble in a hurry.

>>16749466
And then you will go around justifying it to everyone
>insurance
>MPG's
>slow car fast
>muh tarbo upgrade

>>16748466
given both are 2017s I would say the 2SS. If you asked me in 2015, I would have said the GT.

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>>16749438
You just keep pictures of your spinal injury xrays on tap in your personal media device of choice?

>>16749519
He shows it to girls in bars
>Took an AK round to the spine. Had to be helicopter'd out. I've... I've seen things.

>>16748466
can't see shit out of a camaro

>>16749600

Stop being a manlet

Camaro. I'm not so much a Chevy fanboy, but I'm pretty anti-Ford.

Give a Hawk either way, though.

As far as Mustang goes... 2011-2014 was best.

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>>16748466

>>16749656
agreed

Would take the Camaro, but in Manual even though the Automatic is faster. Have seen too many Mustangs already and they are kind of getting boring to me

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I choose this. And its YOUR sister I'll be fucking.

>>16751916
Who said anything about sisters? I will bend your white trash aunt over the hood and ram her ass to climax.

>>16749519
Why would you not have photos of your x-rays from a horrific injury?

>>16751916

>I choose this. And its my sister I'll be fucking.

FTFY, nice mullet mobile.

>>16751916
More like GTBae

Mustang by far. I think the new gen Mustang is one of the tiny handful of modern cars that legitimately looks really good.

>>16748466
The Mustang.

Mustangs look pretty much perfect and sexy as hell. The Camaros look fat ad ugly, like they were designed by a little edgy teenager.

Mustangs are so fucking sexy.