>American cars are now fast on tracks but slow in straight

Cuz people are stubbon

Because people don't know shit about cars and just regurgitate memes they read on the internet to fit in.
t. drive a German and Japanese car

>>16724312
>driving pig fat ugly shit

>Because people don't know shit about cars and just regurgitate memes they read on the internet to fit in.
>>16724346
Like clockwork.

>>16724312
Not trying to nitpick but Camaro and Mustang aren't muscle cars but motortrend have said that the hellcat cars stop and turn very well for what they are (actual muscle cars) and that's why they really liked them.

lol cant fast

>>16724312
>Why aren't people adapting?
Everyone is adapting but the Yuros. Yuros won't be able to shitpost anymore.

>>16724312
because American cars have always been better than european cars so they have to keep making excuses about one thing or another to save face.

>american cars c-cant turn!
Viper
GT350
Ford GT
CTS-V
SS
Focus RS
C7
Camaro ZL1
>I m-m-mean americ-can cars are slow in a s-straight l-l-line!
Charger
Challenger
GT350
C7
Camaro Z28

>y-yeah b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but american cars are u-unreliable
Ford won Lemans 24
Ford/Cadillac won Daytona 24
American small black engines are the easiest to find parts for


Is there anything worse for car culture than a yuropean?

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>American cars are now fast on tracks

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16726791
Ferrari 458 GT2
Porsche 911 RSR
Aston Martin V8 Vantage GTE

ALL LOST TO A CORVETTE IN 2015

Porsche 911 RSR
Ferrari 488 GTE
Aston Martin V8 Vantage GTE
Ferrari 458 GT2

ALL LOST TO A FORD IN 2016

>THE STATE OF YUROPE

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>muh Alpha platform
literally just oversized French tyres and British dampers under a 1960s Detroit bunker on wheels

>>16724346
Kek.
Here comes the autist.

>people think american cars are heavy
>somehow BWM, Mercedes, and Audi get away with weighing 5000lbs because they put a tiny strip of carbon fiber on the metal door panel

>>16726786
>Ford won Lemans 24
>Ford/Cadillac won Daytona 24
What does it have to do with production car reliability??

>>16726834
But American cars are very heavy in comparison to a BMW for example

>>16724377
>mustang and camaro
>not muscle cars


Gimme some of what youre smoking, anon, it sounds like its strong stuff.

>>16726841
Not true. Most BMWs, like American cars, are in the 3,500 to 4,500 pound class.

>>16726847
The Camaro was considered a muscle car at one point (no longer is) and the mustang was never ever considered muscle, it's always been a pony car

>>16726835
>ecoboost v6 and LS motors (used in actual production cars unlike european engines) win the most notorious races for engine stress

>>16726841
The 5 series can weigh as much as 1500lbs heavier than a base model CTS

3 series and c class are also pig fat heavy compared to american sedans

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>>16726808

>American cars
>fast

Lol

>>16726857
>United Kingdom Radical Motorsport
>Founded 2013
>Folded 2014

Yuros are too poor to even go racing let alone win at it

>>16726863

Radical Sportscars was founded in 1997 and is still making cars today.

Try harder.

>>16726850
M3/M4 weighs ~3300 lbs
>>16726856
the base 3 series weighs around 2900-3000 lbs
any american sedans of the class/size that weight less than that?

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>>16726863
>one formula ford team wherein the manufacturer built it's own car
>representative of the state of Radical as a whole

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>most American cars are shit for 30 years
>Make 5 good cars and expect people to change their minds

Same reason why you meet 1 smart black guy and don't think the 100000000000 dumb ones you met in your lifetime are instantly smart as well.
Redefining a Brand takes 1-2 GENERATIONS, not 1-2 years.
Cadillac makes 500hp monsters, yet anyone I talk to thinks "old man car".

Same reason why a shitty Italian car with a plastic interior goes for 120k, whereas a better Japanese car has to go for 80 to compete.

Deal with it.

>>16726896
>2900-3000 lbs
dont lie you filthy yuro
it starts at 3300 and can weight as much as 4000

Nearly every 4 door american car is in the same weight range

>>16726895
>>16726897
>ford engines
>relevant race wins: 0
>a dodge charger beats it in a straight line
>best finish at lemans: 20th

embarassing

>>16724346
Almost everything new is pigfat and absolutely everything new is ugly

>>16726934
F30 320i weighs 1395 kg (3075 lbs) with added 75 kg driver, luggage and fluids
An empty F30 weighs sub 3000lbs

>>16726934
>Two of the top 3 spots of production cars at the Nurburgring
>Pikes Peak Unlimited Class 2015 win

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>>16726895
>>16726948
>>16726955
It's the post-truth era in the "land of the free" now

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>>16726948
are you stupid or just european?

>>16726955
>radical sr8
>top speed 155
>need a crash helmet to drive it
>get pulled over every time you drive it
>made of plastic and lacks a windshield
>never won a race despite being an oversized go cart

really impressive yurope, you sure showed us.

>>16726987
>this damage control

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>>16726987
The 3 series can be as light as 2866 lbs (empty)
1375 kg is the EU curb weight which includes 75 kg added driver weight. 1300 kg - 2866 lbs
Get educated amerifriend

>>16727032
bonus fun fact: the F30 316i (europe-only) weighs 2830 lbs empty

>>16726786
>>16724312
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_cars_by_acceleration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

Funny... Looking through these lists all I see are European cars and occasional Jap cars. Could it be that you are deluded or are the facts wrong?

The exception to this rule of course is the Tesla, which isn't exactly what people think of when you say "American Cars"

>>16727076
>have to spend 2.5 million on a car to go 0.08 seconds faster to 60mph than a $70,000 economy car made for people who dont like or care about cars

>having to spend 2.5 million on a car or chop off all the bits of a car that make it livable, to go more or less the same speed as a $100,000 chrysler with the engine from a pickup truck


lmao

It's less American cars are getting better and more everything else is getting worse.

>>16726955
>Tarmac pikes peak
>Class that shares nothing with the street cars
>Factory driver record on the nords

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Your argument went faster in the trash than the tesla P100 hitting 0-60

>>16727095
The AMG GT R costs 143k GBP which translates into $178.000
Stay BTFO

>>16727189
mercedes wont race the AMG GT at lemans to take on the Ford GT

i wonder why

>>16727221
Benz still cries and is butthurt over this. https://youtu.be/KqK5wEssHjY That's why.

>>16727221
The AMG GT3 Le Mans Cup exists

>>16727259
didnt win

>>16726847
theyre technically pony cars anon but people just accept them as muscle because their competitors are muscle

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>>16726786
>small black engines

>>16726852
That pedantic bullshit is dumb as fuck these days. You have two cars that are currently. Made that could qualify as one. The Mustang and Camaro are heavy as fuck and have big engines in the front of essentially a sedan.

If japs can call an R32 a muscle car or a supra a muscle car the fucking Mustang is a muscle car Christ I hate you people

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>>16727076
>Facts
>wrong
Lmao /pol/ plz go

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gm fangirls getting btfo yet again

>>16727076
>Tesla
>gobs of torque
>fast off the line
>can't turn
>pigfat
>overheats
>""""luxury"""" is just reusing interior components of other cars

It is exactly what people think of with American cars, you retard