What's more important when considering a car's specs:

>>16722861
There are way more specs out there beyond horse power and torque

>>16722861
>What's more important when considering a car's specs: horsepower or torque?
depends on what kind of car you want, also you should consider the entire powerband not just peak numbers (look at a dyno chart or drive one and feel it for yourself), gearing plays a part too

>What should be maximized when upshifting: horsepower or torque?
You have to factor in torque and gear ratio. Whenever the torque you're currently producing at the wheels at the current RPM is lower than what it would be in the next gear up (after RPM drop), you shift

so really just do it whenever power starts to drop off

Horsepower forever and always
Torque is irrelevant once power has been calculated

Torque for doing pulls
HP for white knuckle, 10 10ths, balls to the wall, racing line, hammering it, momentum racing fun

Total power under the curve / lbs

>>16722916
Pretty much this. The best thing is high ass Rpms. That's what they do in formula 1, have these small engines with insane rpms. Torque gets pushed to the side once you get in high gear and high rpm

>>16723127
The USA e36 m3 and Honda s2000 have the same HP. The s2000 is lighter. The s2000 is slower. Guess which one has more torque

>>16722916

Maybe in a sub 1800lb car. Normal cars are heavy and need torque to get going. Torque is more important in the real world as is not needing to rev to 5k rpm and shifting 5 times to get across an intersection from a red light. The only time a 9k rpm redline and top end power is useful is when you're going flat out on a track.

>>16723159
>Torque is more important in the real world as is not needing to rev to 5k rpm and shifting 5 times to get across an intersection from a red light
confirmed tard who has never driven a car

>The only time a 9k rpm redline and top end power is useful is when you're going flat out on a track.
yeah because its impossible to have fun on the streets

>>16723200
The only reason a high rev limit is fun is because the performance leaves you wanting

I could see the appeal of big torque in an RWD car, but having 270lb-ft in my FWD Fiesta is just useless. I can't use it because it just spins tires.

>>16722999
Yep this, what you want basically depends on your driving style.

Torque if you are a fatass

HP get hektic
Torque get city MPG

>>16723200
Huh? A voodoo mustang feels slower than a GT on regular roads. Torque does matter if you actually drive your car instead of benchracing
>inb4 i only daily racecars

>>16723280
You can spin your tires in 4th and 5th