WTF I love Toyota now http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car s

>>16719446
Why is it so angry?

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>>16719446
>dick status
MUH

Based Toyota bringing it home with da supercharger

Ok but can I make it fit in an aw11?

>>16719456
FUCK YOU! THATS WHY, FAGGOT

I want!

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Welp, I know what Im getting next.

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>yaris
>not a corolla

fuck this gay earth

>not sure if coming stateside
>got hyped over nothing
fuck yourselves toyoturd

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>Gazoo Racing Masters of the Nurburgring

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>>16719456
Just put the smiley rally bumper on it

>>16719887
what did they mean by this

Those headlights are absolutely hideous.

Supercharger makes this really interesting, though.

>>16720085
Wouldn't a turbo be better?

>>16720109
nein

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>210hp
>2350 lbs
damn nigga that's pretty gud

>>16719446
Why didn't they do the camry? A real sedan that has the room for even more stuff

>>16720124
>doesn't even have test model yet
I doubt it'll be that light

>>16720142
It's a Yaris, how much heavier can they make a "sport" version?

>>16720146
I mean the curb weight of a regular Yaris is 2417, plus they are adding little tweaks here and there I reckon it'll weigh around 2500-2550

>>16720170
I feel like they might make it lighter. Make it slightly """"sportier""""

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and it'll probably cost 30k after taxes and shit ><

>>16720124
>11lbs/hp

Fiesta and the v6 stang is 13lbs/hp.

>>16720178
Regular fiesta 2530
Fiesta ST 2720

nigga it's gonna be heavier then the base shit teir model, don't be a retard

>>16720109
>no turbo lag
>dat supercharger whine
>generally more reliable than a turbo inb4 huge autistic fight over this

Plus there's nothing special about a turbo these days, fucking everything has one. A superchager is far more unique.

>>16720183
It's probably gonna be around 2600lb though. Still extremely light for a modern car, though.

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>>16719446
>1.8 liter 4 cyl.

>>16720242
this.
I fuckin love superchargers, sure a turbo will give you the whistle then "psh" sound but the SC whine really gets my jiffies rumblin

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>>16719446
I'm interested, but I'm already getting ready to look for an Ion Redline
>tfw supercharged 2 liter 4cyl pushing over 200hp to the front wheels (where the power should be)

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>4cyl
>1.8l

>>16719446
Based.
I love that Toyota won't let go of superchargers even after all this time.

>>16720276
this
superchargers are great but their one major downside is not quite as much power potential
but your torque curve is so flat, who cares

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>>16720061
>mister steal yo gurl

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>>16719987
>not the GT86 ""sports car""

>supercharged
>lighter
>3 doors
>more displacement
>toyota reliability

Fuck, why did I fall for the Fiesta ST meme? This sounds perfect

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>>16719704
Likely. If my hunch is right, the engine they'll use is the 2ZR-FZE from the Lotus Elise.

>>16721473
or just use a 2zz you fucking dingus

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>>16720280
>to the front wheels (where the power should be)

>>16721476
The ZZ hasn't been made in years dipshit. It was replaced by the ZR engine.

>>16721478
>we'll take an engine from another car instead of making a new one or modifiying the one we already have
get real

>>16719446
OUT OF ALL THE CARS THEY COULD OF CHOSEN, THEY HAD TO CHOOSE THE FUCKING YARIS! WHY THE YARIS?!

>>16719456
Because toyota-San has been holding back on all of the fun for so long.

>>16721493
Muh hot hatch

>>16719987
>imblyging that generational size creep in auto models doesn't mean this already is the same size as a previous gen shitrolla.

>>16721493
GT86fags BLOWN

THE

FUCK
U
C
K

OUT
U
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>>16721516
>Yfw this ends up being faster than the 86

>>16721516
>bbbbbut bbbbut muh handling desu

>>16721516
2BEQH I MUCH RATHER THE CAMRY OR AVALON, BUT NOT THE YARIS!

>>16721520
>lighter
>more torque because fi
>won't have Prius tires as standard
loooooooooool

>>16721534
How will 86fags ever recover?

>>16719446
>Yaris

oh
okay

>gt86 owners get a facelift with no extra power
>yaris fans get a fucking supercharger strapped to a revvy engine
KEK

Too bad the front end looks garish

>>16721462
don't worry man I did too, but I know that this'll probably be the next thing if it lives up to the hype
>>16721436
this
any gear, any time you have available power, truly a blessing. Although it does suck how much lower a SC potential is

>>16721516
>B-BUT MUH INISHARU D

Weeb faggots eternally btfo

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>>16721493
A few reasons.
1 is size. Look at all the other cars it competes with in the WRC. They're of similar size
2 is weight. The Yaris weighs a lot less than its competitors in street form.
3 is the Yaris has been stagnant. The drivetrain has not been updated, beyond ECU's, since 1999. The Chassis has not had a proper update since 2006. The only new thing the 2012 update brought was new looks, a slightly longer wheelbase, and available rear disc brakes on the SE model.

The Yaris hasn't been innovating to keep up with competitors. What's a surefire way to get great R&D for production? Racing.

And I wish Toyota the best of luck

>>16721618
Thanks for the mature answer. I will now accept Toyota choice in choosing the Yaris.

>>16721488
You realize the 2ZR-FZE is a Toyota engine right.... it was literally the successor to the 2zz.

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>toyota gives the yaris a fucking SUPERCHARGER
>still no fit si

Fuck you Honda. If they sell it as a 3-door in the US I may get one. I'm not wild about that front end, but it's starting to look less hideous the more I look at it and think of that sweet supercharger whine.

>>16721924
You should hope that this car does well, since it means Honda will be more likely to create a competitor: the Fit SI or even a Type-R

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>>16720170
>I mean the curb weight of a regular Yaris is 2417

The 2017 3 door starts at 2315lb according to Toyota's own site. This thing is light as fuck.

>>16720266
>t. owner of a 180hp V8

>>16721507
but its not a corolla is it faggot?

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>>16721516
>I paid way to much for a slow car with shitty tires and Im getting my doors blown off by a Yaris but at least I got muh center of gravity.
>No one can take muh CoG.

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The 86 grmn cost over $50k and there were 100 made.

It seems unlikely that the Yaris grmn will be produced in large numbers.

>>16720280
Why not get an srt4?

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>Yaris has more HP than the BRZ/86

lmao

>>16722093
Not more than 86 GRMN. Expect the regular Yaris to have way less than the regular 86 as well.

>>16722099
>86 GRMN

kek, the difference is Toyota actually plans to sell this. This Yaris is also probably going to be about 6 grand cheaper than an 86, so who cares about the base Yaris.

>>16722109
>the difference is Toyota actually plans to sell this
You sure about that?

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>>16719446

>yaris

a supercharged kei jidōsha, great.

Welp, I know what car I am buying next year.

i might buy this if it materializes.. my 3 door 07 yaris is not looking so good as of late

>>16722099
>Toyota will make this car have less power than the hottest-selling hot hatch, the Fiat 500 Abarth Biposto
Not happening in a trillion years. The difference with the GT86 is Toyota didn't view it as having any direct competition so they could give it whatever they wanted with a view to saving costs. They were wrong about people not giving a fuck about the power. The Yaris has actual competition in the marketplace so they're not going to give it no power.

I want a hot hatch
Hot hatches are cute
Mustang and camaro are fat

>>16719446
but will that engine fit a zzw30

>>16720124
>heavier than zzw30 or aw11
>drive still goes to only wheels power should ever go to

>yaris is going to but whoop the gt86

I'm so ready for this. I hope they produce a decent amount of them, but I think they'll be so popular Toyota won't have a choice not to.

>less than 2 liters
no thanks, i'll stick to my 117 hp 3.7l straight six.

>>16722797
>only 117 hp

LMFAO!! Shoulda got the 137hp 4.5l V8 like me.

>>16722815
>137hp
enjoy spinning tires, whippersnapper.
Damn cars are too fast nowadays

>>16722755
Yes. The 2ZR-FZE is almost identical in size to the 1ZZ-FE

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>>16722748
y... YOU TOO!

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>a fucking yaris

this is a great fucking joke. 7/10, made me laugh. toyota confirmed for comedians, get fucked 86-fags.

>>16719446
Why does the Yaris look so angry? It looks as if it's screaming vulgar obscenities at something.

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>>16719446
>post yfw Yaris will be faster than GT-86 on a straight line AND corners

AHAHAAHAA FLAT 4 WEEBS ON A SUICIDE WATCH

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>>16723548
gt-86fags btfo how will they ever recover

4th Gen MR2 when?

why can't you people get over the dact that the frz86 isn't about benchracing and more about muh driving experience
i'll be damned the if it isn't the most fun 4banger i ever touched

>>16723582
the 3rd gen was ugly enough.

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>>16722755
>>16722877
That would be a pretty good swap.
I might have to get a Spyder.

>>16721974
Why has no one LS1 swapped a yaris?

>>16723606
muh driving experience is an incredibly nebulous concept to someone who's never driven before

it won't be awd so who the hell cares

>>16723484
It sees a GT86 it's about to murder at the stoplight.

>>16721974
Why didn´t they choose the Aygo to become their hot hatch?
It is like 850kg/about 1900lbs.

>>16723793
an aygo turbo would be incredible

>>16723793
Because the Aygo is a French piece of trash that isn't sold worldwide.

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>>16723870
>they actualy did that
>they called it "Aygo crazy"
>the put a modified MR2 drivetrain in it
>making it MR
>no electronic whatevershit
>200hp

>>16723893
1. they did
2. most cars aren´t sold worldwide
3. why didn´t they do that with a kei-car?

>>16723897
>>16723904
>concept car
a fucking moot point who gives a shit

vw made a golf with 600 horse power and 12 cylinders. it doesn't mean anything.

>>16723897
why the wank spraypaint?!?!?

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>>16721534
>Prius tires
Stop this meme, the regular Prius has 15" wheels with ULRR tires, not the same size 17" wheels that the Toyobaru has and the tires are much different.

>>16724130
1600 DOLLARIDOOS FOR 17 INCH RIMS

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>>16721516
>toyota give their shopping trolley more power than their sports coupe

>>16724130
>optional extra

>>16724151
And tires, so really not as horrible as it sounds.

>>16724164
Literally what is your point?

I hope it comes in pink

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>>16724249
>Drive pink cuckbox
>Destroy tryhard boiracer toyota 86s all day

Oh yeah sure it probably bably going to be a fat piece of sh-
>1060kgs
Toyota yes!

>>16719446
is it because vw quit wrc?

>>16724328
This.
I may consider doing this.
there are so many FR-S fags near my town it's like h2o

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>needs a supercharger to make 210hp

>>16724394
Show me a production engine under 2.0L that made over 200 HP without forced induction.

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>>16724415
Why? Just put one that's 2.0L or slightly larger. More torque, more reliable, less parts, could probably fit in the same external footprint.

>>16724415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S2000

1997cc
so it's less than 2 liters

>>16724415
>Subaru BRZ 2.0
>200 horsepower
>Integra Type R K20A I4
>217 horsepower

>>16724440
>>16724454
2.0L is not under 2.0L. I don't care if it's 1997 CC or 1998cc or 1999cc
It's 2.0L and therefore doesn't qualify.

>>16724432
No one as stuck a 2.0L engine in a subcompact car since the B13 Nissan Sentra SE-R

>>16724478
>No one as stuck a 2.0L engine in a subcompact car since the B13 Nissan Sentra SE-R
Why not?
>>16724478
>I don't care if it's 1997 CC or 1998cc or 1999cc It's 2.0L and therefore doesn't qualify.
Any number of CC under 2000 is under 2.0L. Learn to math.

>>16724432
Because superchargers are cool

>>16724432
>Why?

Because it keeps the price down and doesn't make the tiny car nose heavy.

>>16724478
Kill yourself

>>16724528
No thanks.

>>16724497
>Any number of CC under 2000 is under 2.0L. Learn to math.
>implying every manufacturer doesn't advertise those as 2.0L engines
Go by what they rounded up. Engines are only measured in cc's if they're motorcycle engines.

>>16724518
Can't you just bore/stroke a 1.8L to get 2.0L or more?

>>16724570
Depends on if the 1.8 isnt just a bored/stroked 1.4/1.6

>>16724570
I don't know man, I'm just a benchracer.

>>16724570
depends on the engine. Toyota's 2ZR engine (what they're most likely to use in this Yaris performance model) is already an undersquare design (meaning the stroke is longer than the diameter of the cylinder bore). It's basically a stroked 1ZR, which was a 1.6L. An Undersquare design is bad if you want to rev high and make power. It's great though if you want low down torque. An Oversquare design is where the bore diameter is larger than the length of the stroke. All high revving screamers use an oversquare setup.

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>tfw can btfo ricers in a fucking Yaris

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>>16724594
>tfw crushing 86cucks at the stoplight

>>16724594
>>16724602
some people can already do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fygSViQyM_4
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56031

>>16719446
If they put this engine in the GT86 it would be a lot better

>>16724669
it wouldn't handle as well, rev as high or have as low a CoG

>>16724415

Alpha made a 1.8L engine for their 159 which made 197HP.

>>16724605
God that sounds so awful.
Probably faster and better handling than my Z31 though lol

>>16724669
Nah they should just put a supercharger on the current 86 with the same engine

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>>16723548
mfw 86 owners get BTFO by a Yaris. mfw 86 owners try to act like they don't care or I doesn't bother them. How cute.

>>16724708
>12.5:1
>supercharger
>from the factory
great idea

>>16724738
It's actually a pretty common mod

>>16723740
Probably because Toyota Yaris is literally the last thing anyone thinks about, for any reason. The only reason most people even know of the Yaris is because it's the cheapest car you can rent in most places. It's the celery of modern cars.

newfag here

are we actually looking forward to this or are we making fun of it, i can't tell

>>16724817
Both.

>>16721534
>fwd

There it turned to shit.

>>16719446
Now toyota needs to deliver on that sf-r im hoping

Why do all these side brand toyota cars look like their inspiration came from either crumpled up paper or a car after somebody took their boot to it

>>16724605
>Not swapping in a 2ZZ
Why?

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>>16724817
I'm looking forward to this and you should too.
If this car sells well, it could inspire other auto manufacturers to build more sporty cars. Toyota could make sports cars great again.

>>16724535
>Engines are only measured in cc's if they're motorcycle engines
volume is measured in any unit of volume, and in all cases, the s2000 engine displacement is less than 2.0 liters

>>16720299
>MUH 300HP V8

>>16723612
BTFO retard

Was interested in the Fiesta ST but this looks it could be even better.

Shame its not turbo.

>all these anti-GT86 fags secretly sperging out defending the Yaris because they know the Yaris will be infeior even with a supercharged engine under the hood while the GT-86 is superior

T
O
P

K
E
K

wake up faggots, the yaris will be a failure with that """""""""""""""""supercharged""""""""""""""""" v4


>less than 250 hp

HOLY SHIT IM DYING

>>16725413
The GT86 had less than 250 too though, does that make it inferior by your standards?

>>16719446
>Toyota Yaris
>not using the corolla

wasted opportunity, damn hatchbacks

Toyota, you have one fucking job. That is to call it the Starlet.

>>16725449
>no 2 door
>no 3 door

Into the trash.

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>>16725639

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>>16725383
The Fiesta, and especially the new Fiesta, looks a trillion times better, but having Toyota reliability instead of Ford """reliability""" is a massive plus.

The only problem is Toyota's tend to have bland unresponsive steering. If they can fix that for this model, it'll be gold.

>>16724478
>I don't care if it's 1997 CC or 1998cc or 1999cc
I don't care about your opinion because 1997cc is not 2000cc.
American "education"

>>16721960
K24 Fit pls

>>16722014
Who is wishing it was a corolla?

Who is the faggot here now?

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>>16725657
The hell you say, the fiesta is butt fucking ugly, I'd rather get caught in an aztek then a fiesta.

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>>16725829

>>16725871
>thinking this is bait
I think the entire ford line-up is fucking ugly, except the f150 series, I don't mind that.

>>16719446
>supercharging the fucking Yaris, instead of the GT86 or Mazda-built iA
Toyota is just fucking with us

>>16724738
explain

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>>16725880

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>>16725897
>next mustang looks like it has downs
>keeps calling me b&

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>>16725913

>ford fiesta
>3 cylinder turbo
>197HP

Dead

www.topgear.com/car-news/geneva-motor-show/behold-new-quite-different-ford-fiesta-st

>>16725656
all the Solaras i see are operated by basketball americans

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>>16719446
>Yaris faster than 86

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>>16725413
>shit-talking the yaris' horse-ppwer
>when the 86 is less powerful

c'mon senpai, try harder.

Front wheel drive. Enough said.

- gt 86 aka god machine

>tfw have a 99 yaris hatch

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>>16725203
Because the ZR was easier to swap. No custom made mounts. No custom wiring.
The 2ZE-FE is a drop in engine swap, provided you use the mounts, ECU, and wiring harness from the Scion xD. There are just 2 wires that need to be changed on the Scion harness for the car to work, and none are particularly difficult. The 2ZR swap can literally be done in a weekend. In other countries, the Yaris came stock with that engine in the high performance Yaris T-Sport (europe) or Vitz RS (Japan) models, so if you search, you can find aftermarket support for it.
In the United States, MonkeyWrench Racing has recently been releasing parts for the engine, including forged internals, camshafts, and a built head with more on the way. And the main reason they're releasing parts isn't the Yaris/xD, or Corolla/Matrix, but rather the Elise, since 2012+ Lotus Elises use a supercharged 2ZR engine.
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/

>>16724697
personally, I love how it sounds. The Yaris in that Video is running a RPM Long-tube header with catted mid-pipe, and a DC Sports axleback exhaust. Beyond that, it's stock.

>>16726429
>When your car is so shit you have to dwell on the drivetrain config
Poor guy. Don't worry only a couple more years 'til it's paid off.

If this thing sells well enough will Mazda stop playing with their dicks and release a new MS3?

>>16726528
no. Because the Yaris wouldn't compete with the MS3. It would compete with a MS2 if they made one.

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Do I pull the trigger /o/?

>>16726550

>$10k car with a $20k (when new) bodykit
>$50k

Nah.

>>16726550
>spending more an an RX-7 because it's had its beautiful design ruined

>>16725951
>it's real
Oh god hot hatches are getting cucked too

>>16719987
Corolla is only sold in third world countries now, everywhere else it's been replaced by Auris.

>>16726528
Hot hatches are THE best selling "performance" car bracket right now.

Mazda isn't making an MS3 because they don't want to, not because of market influence.

Didn't they say "We're too mature for Mazdaspeed" recently?

>>16726717
>too mature for Mazdaspeed
Like Naughty Dog saying they've grown up too much to make fun games like Jak and Crash Bandicoot ;_;

>>16722058

>riced-out 86 costs more then a well-optioned SS Camaro
>there are people who bought this car

You weeb faggots belong in camps.

>>16726641
>Tfw current fiesta st prices will go up because nobody wants le 3 cylinder

>>16726687
no m8, toyota stopped selling corollas in poverty stricken shit holes. we get the corolla and the auris. stay mad bro.

>>16727065
Asshurt third worlder spotted.

>>16727074
australian nigger detected. hey bro, when is the next gen ute coming out? kek

>>16727065
Actually the Corolla was discontinued in Europe because a survey conducted by Toyota showed that customers associated the name with a bad image.
That's also why Toyota also spent ridiculous amounts of money on advertising the Auris as a fresh Corolla replacement.

You probably get both models because there is no Auris sedan and we don't get the Corolla because compact sedans don't sell in yurop.

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>>16726297
>yaris makes more power
>yaris is also lighter
Pic related is gt86 fags

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>>16727489
>car designed primarily to be a sportscar, but has an underpowered engine
>car designed primarily to be an economy car, but has a supercharger

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>>16725829
Even if you didn't like the old one, you have to admit the new one is sexy af.

>>16727510
Nope. Sorry

>Super 4-banger
At least it's not just a turbo.

>>16727558
It has 5 cylinders dumbass

>>16721551
The yaris needs the supercharger just to get 5 more bhp than the 86, and will likely cost more because of the bulky supercharger. In the meantime, Toyota is also working on a second generation FT86, as well as the new Supra.

I just think it's nice that Toyota is pressing performance vehicles at all, and I hope everyone loves them, and they sell out all over and the mom-car-SUV trend can finally just fuck off.

>>16727510
>amerilard failing to understand hot hatches

>>16727538
The lower grill makes it look better at least.
>>16727584
I hope the succeed as well, I'd like to see crossovers kind of die out here in the US, the only one that looks good is the Crossstrek.

>>16728012
You guys misunderstand the global market if you think crossovers are going anywhere

>>16728172
this
crossovers print money, no matter how shitty you make them. People just like certain brands and if you make a crossover of <brand someone likes> they'll fucking buy it no question

they'll eventually be unseated but not for a very long time

>>16720179
There's a problem with it being cheap?

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Would you a Yaris or a Micra?

>>16728371
Micra cause i'm loyal to Nissan cock

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>>16719446
Stop whoring this shit out. Stop it with the fucking astroturfing you SAH-LUT

>>16728371
Yaris because I can't imagine how heavy Micra must be.

>>16721618
The subcompact meme is the worst WRC rule change in it's history.

>>16728466
micra isn't that heavy if anything it is the same weight as the yaris

>>16726821
Camaro is gud but I understand wanting something lighter with a less twitchy throttle.

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>>16727709
Nope, Irish.

What don't I understand about hot hatches, the name basically explains them.

>>16724415
No replacement for displacement

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Do any of you remember the IQ GRMN with 6 speed and supercharger? No?
That's probably because they only managed to squeeze out 100 in total, which were all sold immediately.

My point is: GRMN is a low volume branch. Even if (big big if) they make a few LHD, chances are very high that you will never get the opportunity to buy one.

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>>16728581
Same story with the 86s, 100 made and they're now selling for more than toyota originally sold them for.

>>16728513
I don't trust you (or Nissan). They've always been known for making overweight cars and engines.

>>16728661
you're an overweight car and engine

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>>16728666
satan no

>>16724478
Slap the shit out of your mom for not aborting you.

>>16728371
Isn't this just an angry Nissan Versa?

>>16728371
This don't look too bad honestly.

Wonder what the specs are.

>>16728747
She's been dead and cremated for a decade now anon.

>>16728574
alright. Let me rephrase it then. Show me a production 4 cylinder engine under 1.9L that makes over 200 HP N/A and doesn't belong to a motorcycle, or rev over 8k.

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>>16728607
Eh i like the subaru brz sti concept more

>>16724432
Because you can swap out the pulley for something smaller and get free power.

Is it front or rear wheel drive?

>>16729564
yes

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>>16729573

>>16719446
>210hp
>My minivan makes more
HAHAHA everyone ITT shilling for this POS is confirmed cuckhold numale

>>16729580
It'll most likely be FWD. If there is an option to send power to the back, it'll be AWD. This is, after all, a fucking Yaris.

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>>16729428
Herro

>>16729949
smartass

>>16729919
210hp out of a 1.8L 4cyl in a sub 2500lbs vehicle is still pretty cool.
It's the fact that it's a Yaris that is getting people excited.

>>16729931
>AWD 210hp Yaris

WRXfags BTFO

>>16731109

what's really exciting about this is that it's FI on a light car. Easy power gains to be had & unlike the fiat 124 it has decent displacement to work with

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>>16731115
I thought they were already btfo back in 2008 when Suzuki teamed with Road Race motorsports and offered a turbo kit as a $5k option at dealers to bump power from 140 HP to 220 on the AWD SX4 hatch. And it was still cheaper than a WRX, even with adding aftermarket suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhPeG-6ujGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2ZgHrFLCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkytX2A1bO0

>>16729949
Displacement: 144.5 in3 (2.4 L)

>>16731137
>tfw no new italian-designed affordable japanese cars

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>>16731109
>210hp out of a 1.8L 4cyl in a sub 2500lbs vehicle is still pretty cool.
In 1989.

But will the motor fit in my 2001 Yaris 3 door hatch? I like the old shape better, not such a granny car

>>16719446
>supercharged only i4

niggas need the twincharged

that Volvo makes nice power out of the twincharged 2L

>>16731079

>>16727510
>sport car
>mcpherson front suspension
>2l boxer
>sports car

>>16731526
this


it's pathetic that you fags think this is actually worth talking about

you can get a fucking 190hp toyota celica for like £2000 and it would probably out-perform whatever toyota currently shit out

>>16733909
>you can get a fucking 190hp toyota celica
Still can't break 200 HP N/A Those 2ZZ's are pretty maxed out N/A from the factory. There's a reason Lotus took to supercharging them.

>>16731361
literally fiata

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>>16732869
>twincharged low displacement engines

This is my fetish.

>>16720242
100% advantages of forced induction for 100% of the rev range

>>16722748
Buy a 1st gen mini cooper s, handles like it's on rails, super charger whine, and somewhat good reliability

>>16734009
Also 230 HP with 150$ in mods

Fiesta ST btfo

>>16721924
I've got a 2012 Fit Sport and I was just saying this the other day.
My Fit takes corners better than any other car I've driven; the handling, the steering, everything, is near perfect - but the serious lack of power leaves me feeling incomplete.

>>16728504
piss off this is the best season in years.

>>16726831
>we get a 2.3 4 banger and call it a Shelby GLH

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>>16721455
DELET

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>>16734497
The Shelby GLH was a 2.2l.

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just what are you doing toyota

why would you supercharge this instead of the 86

just why toyota

It's still a yaris. You will still be driving a yaris-- with a body kit, no less. Sped the same amount of cash on the base model of a real car.

>>16734565
Shelby GLH was a 2.2 TURBO.

Fast in a straight line. Handled reasonably well. Lost to the GTI in comparos every time.

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>>16721455
>mfw the gt86 is slower than the yaris

>>16734784
t. na gt86

>>16734784
the yaris is faster than the gt86

>>16734852
>the yaris is faster than the gt86

Its still a (((yaris))).

>>16734905
So what? The GT86 is still a (((slow piece of shit)))

>>16734915

I wouldnt drive either. I definitely would not pull up to the country club doors with a yaris in a body kit, though.

>>16734923
I definitely wouldn't be alive if I pulled up in a GT86 to anything

Looks like a mk4 Golf 1.8t clone but it came with a tune from the factory.

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>>16734812
delete this

>>16721462
The fiesta looks 234 better