> Tools Anyone ever use a Harbor Freight torque wrench? I'm

No. Literally nobody who buys harbor freight tools uses them.

>>16718689
There's nothing available in between those two price points?

When you buy sandwich bread do you also choose between Store brand white bread for $1 and hand crafted Himalayan lotus flower enlightenment bread blessed by the Dali Lama for $500 per loaf?

>>16718745
Okay... Some shit you get at sears then.

Get Precision Instruments or CDI

>>16718689
You...you do realize there are tool companies that make equal durability strength tools to the same tune as snap-on for like 1/5 of their prices, correct?

>>16718689
harbor freight torque wrenches are great I have their 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 and 3/4 wrenches and they all work perfectly, people have tested them as well and they are reasonably accurate.

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>>16721182
?

>>16718689
Get Lowe's cobalt one....

I went down this road awhile ago myself and best product for best deal I found was cobalt mechanical one.

I have harbor freight one too but as with a lot of their tools it's pretty me

cobalt one is far nicer... I have used it to do a few head jobs on gassers and diesels alike.

>>16718689
my dad uses his literally every single day, he works at a dealership. he says the harbor freight ones are a better value than snap on because of the easy to use warranty and significantly lower price. they last him a year or two under consistent use. then he just buys a new one for cheap with a coupon.

>>16722103
>SK
>GearWrench
>Mack
>Kobalt(?)

Ingersoll Rand makes the impacts for most of the tool companies. you could probably get the same thing for less with a different logo on it.

>>16718770
>Some shit you get at sears then
Sears sold the Craftsman brand this January 2017 to Stanley Black & Decker. Sears is also selling the DieHard and Kenmore brands to try to avoid bankruptcy for another year.

Certainly Harbor Freight didn't need to buy Craftsman as it is good enough to cannibalize enough business for Craftsman to become a problem for Sears.

>>16722267
I have a kobalt torque wrench with 1/2" drive and it works great.

I used a torque wrench from O'Reilly's , whatever the brand is called. Uses it for my spark plugs on my 4.6 modular. The spark plugs were never spat out so I'm guessing it worked.

>>16718689
What are you using it for?
1/2" drive for head bolts and lugnuts- Pittsburgh is fine, gonna need replaced after about 100 uses for being our of spec.

1/2" drive - for specialty shiznit, get a GOOD one off a tool truck, Snap-On, Mac, Cornwell, etc.

3/8" drive for valve covers, spark plugs, etc. Just use a normal ratchet, the torque specs on most these things are more about not overtightening them.

I have the click type one. It works fine but I wouldn't trust it for engine building. The lock on the bottom kinda sucks. go for a better brand desu

>>16721182
This. I had my set if snap on sockets and 2 ratchets stolen and being a broke ass nigga right at that time I had to replace them with something and a buddy of mine have me a set of blue point sockets and a ratchet to use till I got my own shit again. I've used blue point ever since and can't see myself buying snap on again if there is something analogous from blue point or a dozen other brands

>>16724207
Yeah but there's no way black and decker already got their hands on the form factors and starting fucking shit up

>>16722103
You'll notice if you look at Snap-Ons financial reporting that they actually make chump change for profits because they dump so much back into R&D.
The real problem is you're buying from a Snap-On dealer not Snap-On itself.

>>16724484
You know companies never want to report profits because it's taxed 35% right?

>>16722198
>he just buys a new one for cheap with a coupon.
Just bring the broken one in and they'll give you a new one.

>>16724543
>You know companies never want to report profits because it's taxed 35% right?
Okay then they get in trouble with the IRS. So yes, they do report their profits.

>>16718709
>t. Snap On tool truck guy

>>16718689
I have a harbor freight torque wrench which I checked the calibration of with the aid of a snap on truck guy. It's off by about 10% so I set it to compensate and use it. I even used it the critical job tightening my head studs with my turbo 6 and haven't had any trouble.

>>16724596
>competing brand says your tool isn't working right
huh, well

>>16724612
>snap on
>competing with harbor freight
That's like saying Kia is competing with Bentley you tard.

Also they guy has a mobile calibrator and is a customer of a tuning shop I was doing some sidework for, he wasn't trying to sell me anything, just was curious how my cheapo torque wrench stacked up.

Go on amazon and buy a tekton torque wrench. They're nice. And they ratchet.

HF is hit or miss, really.

Some of their tools are absolutely fine and the only tool you'll ever need, others are shit that will barely last you through a job even if you use it properly.

Anyways on a totally different topic, anybody have any good ideas for a "soft case" tool box / way to organize your tools?

I'm gonna be living in an apartment where there's no work allowed in the complex (yeah fuck off I know, but the rent is fucking great for the area) so I need to make a sort of "guerilla tool kit" that I can just grab & go to do my shit in a friend's driveway or auto parts store parking lot. Juggling 15 big hard plastic cases ain't gonna cut it.

Basically like a backpack with some socket organizers in there, but maybe something a little more purpose built than a random jansport stuffed with tools...

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>>16724668
I made a canvas wrap for my ratchets, sockets, and a few wrenches and other bits and pieces. It's similar to pic related but I just did my own sewing since the shits much cheaper. It doesn't carry everything but it's compact enough that I can roll it up and put the essentials in my trunk and not have them rattle around in a toolbox.

Keep your torque wrench in its original case though, don't put it in the wrap. Also wrap my breaker bar in the middle and boom, easy access, easy to carry, no clinking around.

>>16724699
Most of /o/ would probably wind up with a needle sticking out of their dick if they tried to sew

>>16722267
SK is ok, no idea who sells them anymore though.
GearWrench is decent, certainly better than HF, but nowhere near Snap On
I assume you mean Mac, fairly similar to Snap On in price and quality, I'd rate them just below
I'd put Kobalt behind GearWrench, and their tool boxes suck worse then Craftsman

Then there's Cornell and Matco which are also good.

>>16724707
Kek, but it's really not hard. $20 in materials and tools and you can have it made in a few hours. The best part about making your own is that you can have the slots for the tools you want, and not finding tools to fit slots someone else made. It's also much cheaper. Sew at a table with your pants on so your dick and needle are separated by the table surface.

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>>16724668
I've seen some Pelican type roll cases that have drawers in them, that works well, or one of these

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>>16724724

well my jack from harbor freight just broke...

>>16724699

I might actually give this a try. I vaguely remember how to use a sewing machine. Maybe get a few of those "locking" socket holder thingies and sew in some elastic loops.

Good idea about the torque wrench too.

>>16724731

Hnnnnggg that's cool. Pelican is ungodly expensive though (I know from buying the for pistols and rifles) and I'd also maybe worry a little about someone seeing a pelican tool chest and assuming there's something reeeeeally good inside.

>>16724737
Yeah this is why you don't cheap out on your jack. Save your pennies my dude. Also since you seem 1.) alive and 2.) not that livid I'm gonna assume you were using jack stands so you get an /o/ gold star regardless.

(or it wasn't supporting your car when it busted.)

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>>16724543 >>16724484 >>16724568
>You know companies never want to report profits because it's taxed 35% right?

Creative accounting turns everything into a business expense. That requires breaking down the company into many small corporations. My big company does that on its factory floor. This set of machines is owned by ABC001, this set of tools owned by ABC002. The crane here is owned by ABC003. Etcetera.

Before you know it, a highly profitable company is actually running in the red (it isn't actually). So it won't pay taxes that year except on some things that cannot be avoided (no exemption).

Pictured is example of corporate income tax for a variety of profitable corporations.

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>>16724737 >>16724866
>well my jack from harbor freight just broke...
>I'm gonna assume you were using jack stands

>>16718689
I bought a Tekton torque wrench last year and have used it a lot. Seems pretty good for the money.

>>16718689
i used my brothers 10-150 lbft torque wrench when i did my timing belt last november. worked fine.

>>16724625
No shit, i'm just sayin

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>>16724699
>2017
>unironically using a breaker bar

I bet you use beam type torque wrenches, air powered drills, and a 20 tooth ratchet you disgusting fuck.

>>16718689
They're junk
If you want to go cheap just get a good beam style one.

for a click type you should go for crapsman or above

>>16725021
How are they junk?

>>16725030
My experience is with their 3/8 click type.
It's just very roughly made. The micrometer adjustment is misaligned so the collar says "0" while the marks on the body say you're between numbers.

If you care enough to use a torque wrench at all you might as well get a decent one.

>>16718689
I bought one for $10 with a coupon to torque the lug nuts on my wheels and i have to say it does the job but the torque wrench is garbage when i tried to set the right torque spec the handle part would get really hard and stuck not sure if mine is defective and i wouldn't trust the calibration either

>>16725047
>it does the job
>its garbage
Well which one is it

>>16725011

wut

A good breaker bar is pretty crucial to any good tool kit. Things get stuck, extra leverage is needed sometimes.

Also if you've ever let tire monkeys or dealer techs anywhere near your car
>HURR DURR WE DID A ROTATION FOR FREE PRAISE ME PRAISE ME SENPAI
your lugs are probably on too tight and a breaker bar is going to be needed to coax them back off

>>16725155
>feeding the tripfag

>>16725046
I've had 3 of just the 3/8th one and they all worked flawlessly

>>16725210
Why would you need 3 if the first one worked flawlessly?

>>16725224
one for work, the other for home, another for my friend

>>16724866
>>16724979
I was using jackstands, as you should, but I didn't get them from harbor freight
can't double down on stupid

>>16725155
I've worked as a tech for 5 years and can count on one hand the amount of time in my life I've used a breaker bar. Any half decent ratchet will break at the drive end before the pawls are damaged.

The only "advantage" a breaker bar has is low cost, but other than that they're just a relic in grandpa's toolbox.

>>16725236

Oh OK I thought you were talking about not needing any sort of extra leverage at all. So do you slip something over a shorter ratchet when needed, or do you have a super-long handle ratchet?

Yea I only really keep them in my kit specifically because they are cheap and simple. Both good things IMO, even though it may lack the full practicality of a ratchet.

(Also for what it's worth I do use a beam type hahaha. Only for inch-pound stuff. I have a good clicker for the rest.)

>>16725286
I prefer soft grip ratchets so I have them all in varying lengths. I think the last time I counted I had over 30 ratchets.

I have yet to encounter a situation where my 26 in 1/2 drive ratchet did not provide enough leverage. It breaks shit loose that an impact gun won't touch. If over 2 feet isn't enough leverage it's probably a good idea to step up to 3/4 or 1 inch drive anyways

>>16725299

>26 inch 1/2 drive

oooooo

and here I am swinging a breaker bar like a faggot

*poorfag hooting intensifies*

>>16724699
>I made a canvas wrap for my ratchets, sockets, and a few wrenches and other bits and pieces.
Did you use the extra large needle and thick synthetic thread which is almost as thick as kite string? Cotton thread gives way too easily.

I would have to sew by hand so the stitching will look amateurish as it is not straight like how a machine does it. But with a big needle, I can fit a big strong synthetic fiber thread through the eye of the needle.

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>>16724668
>something a little more purpose built than a random jansport stuffed with tools..
Tools weigh a lot and the handle or shoulder strap on a normal backpack will eventually tear under the weight. You can opt to have two separate tool bags and that should be enough to carry the tools you need while parts and oil jug are in the backpack. So that makes three pieces. Tool bags don't slide around in the trunk as long as you have a rubber trunk mat. The ratchet/socket set are in their own container since they were purchased as a set. No need to repackage the ratchet/sockets.

Having a big roll out canvas mat of tools requires an area to spread out. With a tool bag, you take the tools you use and stand them on end in the tool bag so their handles stick out the opening. Makes it easy to grab. Tools lie sideways in the bag only when transporting. Thus, the toolbag serves as a prop to hold the tools vertical for easy grabbing.

I don't like large metal tool chests. That makes one single unit too heavy and its smooth bottom can slide around in a trunk denting things up. Pelican cases are too formal and inefficient for me. And people seeing you put one in your trunk may think you have a gun, so they may open your trunk at night.

>>16726066
I used bonded nylon thread with an appropriate needle by hand because it's too heavy to be used in a home sewing machine. Even by hand you can get a nice straight even stitch if you take your time, I wouldn't get caught up in how machine-like it looks unless you plan on carrying it to a fashion show as a handbag, it'll still look fine.

Make sure to use a bonded nylon or bonded polyester thread. A thicker thread isn't necessarily stronger if it's not bonded thread, so get a nice medium thickness bonded nylon and she'll be fine.

>>16725234

Which jack?

What percent chance will HF car stands try to kill me?

>>16725011
>Implying you have the balls to stick a jack handle over the end of your $800 96 tooth ratchet

>>16726298
<0.05%.

I'd bet my life on it, but your life might be more valuable to you.

>>16724636
>>16724983


This.. got my click style for $20 on Amazon.. fucking great tool with lifetime warranty.

Stupid question: can I use impact sockets in my ratcheting wrenches? Is there a reason I shouldn't or is it just that impact sockets cost more? I'd rather invest a few extra in an impact set and have less clutter so if they fit then I'll go with it.

>>16726298
>What percent chance will HF car stands try to kill me?
It's made of cast metal, so the chance of microcrystalline fractures is up to the purity of the metal. And as half-trolls would say, also the number of times you drop it on the floor.

>>16726723
>jackstands
>cast
nigga they're made of stamped steel sheet
and they aren't under that much stress unless you're putting them under a big rig

>>16718689
>Anyone ever use a Harbor Freight torque wrench?
All but one person that I know with torque wrenches uses Harbor Freight. So HF is quite successful at selling them.

>>16718689
snap on tools now before snap off bolts later

>>16726536
>: can I use impact sockets in my ratcheting wrenches?
No you'll break your wrench. It's the opposite of using a hand socket on a impact

>>16718689
>Anyone ever use a Harbor Freight
HF has killed the tool sales of most other stores in the area. The HF store is always full of people. Except for Lowe's and Home Depot, the other stores (Ace, independent, Sears) have almost no one in their tool sections. Sears has drastically cut back on what tools they sell too. It's so sad but it looks bad for Craftsman's lifetime replacement warranty because there will be no replacements when those lines are ended.

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>>16726536
Yes. I do it all the time. Impact sockets are heavier and thicker than chrome sockets so there are places that they will not be able to be used, but rarely do I ever use a 1/2 drive chrome socket.

If you're wanting one socket set to do everything check these out.

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>>16726148
This one

>>16731752
So that's the Harbor Freight floor jack that was mentioned as breaking? At what point did it stop working? After the car was lifted to the max height and the seal gave way? Or it simply kept on leaking and wouldn't pump up at all?

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-steel-heavy-duty-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-68048.html

>>16731698
Thanks lad, exactly what I wanted to know.

>>16726536
The difference between normal sockets and impact sockets is that impact sockets are much harder and less flexible. This keeps them from acting like the springs in a flywheel and evening out the impacts, which would defeat the purpose of using the impact wrench. The downside to that increased hardness is that they're more brittle, which actually makes them more likely to break than normal sockets. If you exclusively use your sockets with ratchets, you're better off with the cheaper and longer-lived normal sockets. If you ever use an impact wrench, you should use impact sockets or you'll greatly reduce the effective torque of the tool.

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Just want to say that Wright Tools are >9000 times better than Snap-On.

Honestly Snap-On is basically Kobalt tier. Not bad for casual use but it isn't worth what they charge in the least.

>>16733073
It's literally the exact opposite. Impact sockets are much softer and pliable than chrome sockets because they are designed to withstand violent impact forces from a rattle gun. Chrome sockets will eventually shatter on an impact but impact sockets on a ratchet are just a minor inconvenience due to size and weight.

>>16733147
Wright is ok, but you're kidding yourself if you think they're significantly better than SO. Wright grip wrenches play second fiddle to SO FDP wrenches.

>>16731698
What set is that?

>>16726374
Fourth on this. Cheap as hell and good quality.

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I command the name fags and arise and help me pls
>memeR2 blew a head gasket when it got stolen
>I need a torque wrench to do this job to continue
Will horror freight torque wrench work? And what company makes head bolts for the 4age? Pls help

>>16732941
yup
I'm assuming after I lowered my car after finishing up the exhaust, because I tried to jack it back up to check for leaks and but it doesn't pump anymore
only had it around a yar

>>16733147
> Snap-on is kobalt tier
> Not bad for casual use
Nigger what? Have you ever so much as touched a Snap-on tool in your life? Snap-on is literally on the top tier list, along with Mac, Cornwell, and Matco

Maybe it needs more hydraulic oil?

>>16731752
Those are absolute garbage, I have two of them sitting in the scrap pile right now.

However, the new Daytona jack Horrible Freight sells is actually pretty damn decent.

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>>16733147
>Snap-On is basically Kobalt tier

>>16733380
Grey pneumatic 81659

They're impact rated sockets that are as thin as a chrome socket. I use them everyday out of my roll cat so I don't have to load it down so much.

>>16733410
>Cheap as hell and good quality.
Lots of people say this about Pittsburg Automotive tools as well. They are even sold at Sears alongside Craftsman that no one buys due to cost.

>>16733338
Anon who asked the original question here. If impact sockets are softer does that mean you'd apply less torque to a bolt using a torque wrench? Is that something to be concerned about or would the difference be minimal?

>>16736208
there is no difference, the material itself is just softer not the working pressure of the socket

>>16736208
Theoretically yes it has the potential to alter torque values, but in the real world it does not make a difference. Using an extension alters torque values more than an impact socket.

>>16718770
Craftsman has been all china since 2011.

>>16737338
>Craftsman has been all china since 2011.
More like Sears has been forced to switch to mostly Chinese goods since president clinton signed China as most favored nation trading status. It still can't compete due to those mall location expenses.

>>16722176
This

I have a cobalt and love it.

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>>16718689

Get on Amazon and buy yourself a CDI Torque wrench.

They make the torque wrenches for all the major tool brands SO, Cornwell, Mac, etc.

>>16724668
>Basically like a backpack with some socket organizers

Milwaukee 48-22-8200 jobsite backpack.

Hard heavy duty plastic bottom, organizers for wrenches and ratchets, throw some twist-lock socket rails in and you're golden.

>>16725011
>20 tooth ratchet

I've got a cheap shit craftsman 1/2" flex that's got maybe 20-24 teeth, it's truly disgusting to use.

>breaker bar just a relic

This, a good ratchet makes breaker bars obsolete - SLL80A and FLL80 for life.

>>16733147
>Snap-On is basically Kobalt tier

No. Lots of SO's stuff is stupidly priced garbage, but a lot is worth the price and some things are absolutely priceless.

Snapon's FDP wrenches are a godsend, whereas their entire cordless lineup is a fucking joke.

>>16737282
>>16736280
Thanks broskis, much appreciated.

>>16738221
>Milwaukee 48-22-8200 jobsite backpack.
Suggest to Harbor Freight they make a knock-off of that backpack. Then sooner or later, something like that will show up.

>>16740414
Chinese knock-off nylon fabric goods have a frequent habit of having the handles pull out or the seams fall apart under repeated strain.

>>16738221
If only my toolbags were smaller, I could fit them inside a backpack for easier carry and to leave my hands free for other things.

>>16721182
> there are tool companies that make equal durability strength tools to the same tune as snap-on for like 1/5 of their prices

This is the mentality of the people who want a Ferrari but can only afford an MR2 and then go on about how the MR2 is just as good.

>>16741927
Didn't the mr2 win an award against a Ferrari and P.s. no mr2 owner thinks like that

>>16718770
>No lifetime warranty.
Even home Depot has a lifetime warranty. Fuck a craftsman.

>>16742046
When did Craftsman hand tools get rid of their lifetime warranty?

>>16742071
Few years back. They might have picked it back up, but there was a point they wouldn't honor it on my 3/4th drive equipment due to me using excessive force. They won't honor quite a few things. If I can't torque a bolt to 400 foot pounds on the three quarter inch Drive, then they don't actually have a lifetime warranty.

>>16738221
> Snap-on's entire cordless lineup is a joke
Are you mad you couldn't afford them or something? At the shop Snap-on shits on Milwaukee and everything else. Only think I'd say is bad about them is they are super expensive and are bulkier.

>>16743151
>Snap-on shits on Milwaukee
That's like saying Mercury shits on Ford.

You know who makes the snappy cordless stuff right? And it's less expensive with a better warranty.

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>>16743151
I do like the newest SO cordless stuff but it's hard to justify more than 2x the price over Milwaukee. Snap On definitely has the best small guns like this thing

>>16743202
If it's made by Milwaukee they sure did a great job making it work completely differently in every way. I'm pretty sure Snap On cordless is made by Sioux though, if you have evidence otherwise please provide it.

>>16743151
I'd say Milwaukee is better. My daily impact (18v brushless 1/2") (I do a lot of suspension work) is turning 4 this year. Contrastingly, one of the guys on the other side of the shop has replaced or warranteed his SO 3 times in 3 years, it just kept turning to shit for torque after a couple months.

Initially SO beats Milwaukee. But, Milwaukee is still working just as good as new years later, SO isn't working at all.

>>16718770
>Some shit you get at sears then
I went to the local Sears to look at the tools. They have much fewer tools than I last remember. It looks like they eliminated a lot of the uncommonly used tools.

>>16724636
Have two of them... Amazing quality for the price

>>16742217
>They might have picked it back up
Well, Craftsman is owned by Stanley Black&Decker now. So it will probably just have a normal warranty.

Sears really sucked when it was taken over by that hedge fund manager. He didn't have any real experience in retail. He was more a numbers type so the company lost its soul. It was like Apple when it was going out of business.

>>16718689

But would you pay $500 for a Strap-on ?

>>16743286
We were issued Milwaukee drills at my last job. Jesus Christ, they were fucking shit. Sure, it'll rip your arm off if you try to snug something down one-handed, but we had literally dozens of unrelated failures on three separate SKUs (so not a bad batch or something, they're just shit).

>>16744960
Well sears will be dead soon.

>>16734486
Like was stated earlier, you should get an SK or a Tekton. They are more than the HF wrenches, but they are actually of usable quality.

Any autoparts store will be able to get you head bolts, but consider studding it.

Just bought set at this link as my first tool set. At that price it looks like a steal. How bad did I fuck up?

https://m.sears.com/craftsman-276pc-mechanics-tool-set/p-00954449000P

>>16745742
You did alright anon. Sears is dying, and when it does craftsman probably will to, so the warrantee will be useless, but it's a decent set.

>>16746256
>Sears is dying
There's no Steve Jobs this time around.

Oh well, Harbor Freight is picking up the customers.

>>16746256
Actually black and decker bought the Craftsman name and as far as I understand they will be responsible for honoring the warranties.

>>16718689
I bought the 3/4in Pittsburgh torque wrench specifically to torque the axle nut on my 07' Legacy after replacing the wheel bearing. Spec for that is 177lb-ft. I first torqued it to 140 with my known good 1/2 torque wrench and then to 177 with the Pittsburgh, seemed to move the right amount and the wheel bearing has been fine for the last 1000 miles. As with all things Hobo Frieght, ymmv

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>>16747684
Why would you need a 3/4 drive for only 177 lns? My 1/2 torque wrench goes to 250.

Also how fucking meme tier is tekton? I've been meaning to get a 3/4 socket set and they have pretty good prices, but I don't want some garbage ass shit. Do they use the same OEM as sunex and GP? They look really similar.

>>16748092
I have a couple Tekton tools, some picks and gasket scrapers, seems to be somewhat comparable to Sunex quality

>>16748113
Fuck just found out the COO on that set is china at least its cr-mo. I have a hard time buying Chinese tools for similar prices as taiwanese tools when there seems to be such a huge gap in quality.

>>16722176
WHAT THE FUCK IS IT WITH THE ELLIPSES? ARE YOU 85 YEARS OLD?

Jesus, just use a comma or something.

>>16748237
So...
How's the autism...
going...
...?

Anyone has recommendations towards cordless impact wrenches for a learning home mechanic? I starting to think maybe I should spend the money on a dewalt, but i really am not going to be using it all that often. I've been using kroil and a breaker bar for the better part of 2 years and I really want to start doing suspension, exhaust and other rust prone areas with ease.

>>16727830
Shear loads from torquing on the car are what kill the jack stand.

>>16734518
I have one snap on tool that I found at home depot in the parking lot, a 1/4" ratchet drive, this thing blows ass compared to the cheap craftsman wrench I had prior.

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>>16743202
Milwaukee does NOT make Snap-on cordless. Idk where you got that assumption from
>>16743213
I love those little dual triggers, makes working a fucking breeze, no stopping what you are doing in order to turn the little nob to reverse rotation. Down is counter-clockwise, Up is clockwise. When I first used one I remember saying "This is as close to a mind reading ratchet, than anything ever will be."
>>16743286
It's the complete opposite over here. Everyone started off with the Milwaukee ratchets, and after a couple years everyone started switching to SO. I still have people asking me to let them borrow my SO because their Milwaukee shit the bad again. What I DO like about Milwaukee is that they issue you a loaner until they get a new one in stock to replace your warranty. ( idk if snap-on does this or not)

>>16740414
>Suggest to Harbor Freight they make a knock-off of that backpack.
Does that work for anything?

>>16721186
This, they aren't too bad, i just wouldn't trust them after a short while. >>16718689 if you're still looking for a torque wrench, Kobalt, the brand from Lowes, makes decent ones for <$75 USD.

>>16745308
Ok thanks senpai

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>>16718689
I use them all the time. There are tests posted on other forums that show them to be fairly accurate.

>>16752076
The thing is do they maintain their accuracy. Or does the amount "sag" after awhile?

>>16752517
Buy a new one every year if you're that anal about it. It'll still be cheaper than Snap On in ten years.

>>16727830
>they're made of stamped steel sheet
The vertical support in the jackstand is cast steel.

>>16718689
>>16718770
Buy craftsman, they'll replace it if you break it

>>16721182
The only thing better with snap-on is ratchet clearance. Idk what it's called but snap on ratchets have such a small degree to turn before it clicks

>>16753906
So will most brands. Buy home depot, there not dying anytime soon. Once sears dies, who will carry craftsman

>>16748092
Most 1/2in wrenches only go to 150, mine included.

>>16754198
>Once sears dies, who will carry craftsman
It will be difficult for Stanley Black&Decker to sell Craftsman because it would cannibalize sales of their own existing lines. So I wondered why they bought that brand from Sears.

Other stores don't sell Stanley and they won't sell Craftsman because they have their own store brand tool lines such as Lowes, Ace Hardware, and Home Depot. A brand is a white elephant if it can't get retail outlets.

>>16718781
this. snapon uses CDI so you'll be getting snapon w/o stepping inside a rape van.

>>16724979
>hazard fraught

>>16754198
>who will carry craftsman
The independent hardware stores that haven't been driven out of business by the big store chains: Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, walmart, costco, amazon, etcetera.

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>>16745742
And here it is. Looks pretty freaking awesome

>>16756261
So it's dead you mean?

>>16718689
Yes. I had it calibrated and it is dead nuts on. No idea how well it will handle repeated use and maintain accuracy. For the home gamer it is fine.

>>16758048
Who knows? But it will surely be diminished in visibility as a brand.

The companies like Stanley Black&Decker has its own methods of marketing, so I am curious as to how it will get Craftsman products into stores as of now. But it is scary to see Sears selling Pittsburg Automotive brand tools. It smells like surrender. That is the Harbor Freight house brand and it surely cannibalizes the Craftsman customer base.

>>16758398
Sears can't compete when chinese companies sell at much lower prices and have profits due to almost no R&D costs. Many other american companies have gone out of business due to that.

>>16758027
My tool collection started with a Craftsman 540pc tool set, but I bought it in 2011 which was the last year for USA made Craftsman tools. The included ratchets were trash but everything else has been great. I've added to it with from various other brands depending on need.

>>16718689
>uses cheap garbage pail tools
>posts subaru

hahahahahah

>>16718689
Yup. Used one to put the heads on my ranger, truck still runs fine after 3 years.

>>16759613
As long as the new company doesn't require receipts or other proof of purchase order forms. Companies usually do that when the warranty is to the original owner.

>>16734948

>t. Eric the Car guy

>>16758048
>So it's dead you mean?
Not as dead as the DieHard and Kenmore brands.

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>>16748692

If I was you I started out with Dewalt I got the non-brushless drill and impact driver for stuff around the house and some car stuff a good cordless is beneficial(small wire wheels when painting suspension parts good for prep)

The main thing is it came with the charging station in batters for the "20v max" line


Then I got a 1/2 inch impact for small things

Then get the XR brushless 1/2 inch high torque model with the 5amp hour battery

This should cover everything you need for suspension bolts, I choose dewalt because it is slightly cheaper then miluakee and makita or ryobi

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>>16724625
Annd the Kia still has the better warranty...

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Used one of these to torque down my heads on my KLG4. 4 years later still working fine.

But yeah OP buy the 500 dollar torque wrench you need it.

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>>16765005
Milwaukee has a much better warranty (5 years) and a much better selection of automotive tools(cordless ratchets are a godsend)


Fucking love this little guy. It's probably my most used tool.

>>16765584

I agree with you on that point miliaukee is a lot more expensive though

That impact ratchet is sexy I've seen it in a lot of YouTube blog

>>16724731
>>16724724
>>16724699
disgusting.

Get a real toolbox

>>16765584
It's up there for me too, the only downside for me is I have the 1/4 drive, which is just the 3/8 with a 1/4 drive head, so it's a bit too powerful for what I mostly use it for, have to be careful. Did I see you got a KRSC box? I just bought one (KRSC46 flip top)

>>16765757
I can't bring my box on a plane or put it in my car with all my tools. Those aren't replacements for an actual box.

>>16718689
What are the good tools i should be going at harbor freight? I'm thinking of picking up torx bits and maybe some ratchets for my dd

>>16765712
It's not an impact ratchet it's just a ratchet. Steer clear of the right angle impacts, they're fucking garbage. Milwaukee and dewalt are genearly similarly priced, and milwaukee has free tool and battery promos with the purchase of a kit all the time. In fact my ratchet was free with purchase of a $200 m12 fuel drill/driver kit.

>>16766063
I also have a flip top krsc46 in midnight blue. It was so hard to function without a shelf for the few weeks I was waiting on it to come in.

>>16766160
>>16766089
Torx bits are the last thing I would get from Hazard Fraught, try to find some used Matco on Ebay. Cheap torx are the worst, going to just be a headache.

>>16766160
I'm going to fabricate my own folding side shelf that's 1.5x the size of the normal ones, I'll post pics when I make it

>>16766089
Get their composite 3/8 ratchet. Its actually pretty smooth and I love it for battery work. Also get their Pittsburg pro roto head ratchet just because it's cheap and roto ratchets are fucking neato. As a matter of fact their whole ratchet lineup is way better than those garbage ass standard craftsman ratchets.

If you don't already have a jack get their Daytona bright yellow floor jack for $200ish.

Their earthquake xt impact was just released and supposedly has similar specs to the tinnitus inducing mg725. Garage journal has a HF pass/fail thread if you're really that interested.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27192

>>16766283
>Also get their Pittsburg Pro

It's a bit annoying that Pittsburg Pro is basically the normal grade chinese gear at Harbor Freight. The other Pittsburg stuff is flimsier or can break right away. I look at multiple regular Pittsburg tools and many items have variances from each other. The consistency is not stable.

>>16724737
did you buy the cheap ass insurance for it?its like 3$ and you can exchange it no questions asked lol

>>16768207
Basic rule of thumb is if it's made in China it's shit, but if you can find any of their made in taiwan tools they're acceptable.

>>16768451
>Basic rule of thumb is if it's made in China it's shit
It's definitely hard to risk losing a limp, being maimed, or even my life when using chinese discount items like floor jacks, ramps, and jack stands.