Why does /o/ have such a hardon for Audi? Even when nobody mentions

>/o/ collectively hates VW
>Audi is literally VW but more expensive and less reliable
1+1=2

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>>16711624
we hate VAG, especially the divisions that try to pass themselves off as being higher quality.

because /o/ is poor and can't afford anything but a miata or $3k civic

The only VAG brands worth anything are Skoda (because they're literally the same thing as the others but cheaper) and Porsche.

>sell fwd cars at a premium price
>rebadged economy cars, when their primary rivals, mb and bmw, are made to be premium cars from the get go

>>16711624
>Shit quality like other VAG products
>FWD
>Haldex

>>16711624
>FWD-based """"""""""""""""AWD""""""""""""""""
>shit to drive
>SHIT to work on
>built just as shit as other VAG trash
>literally BMW/Benz/Lexus money for a pleb-tier VW with some extra leather and polished metal
>every single owner is a massive cunt

>>16711631
>>16711656
>>16711681
>>16711687
>>16711695
So I definitely shouldn't buy an A3, then?

>>16711713
Nope

>>16711713
If you're set on VAG trash, buy a Jetta/Golf or Skoda Octavia (depending on where you're from) since they're the exact same fucking thing.

Because nobody here has the mindset of a luxury car owner. They'll say shit like lol fwd, lol maintenance, etc, but if you can afford a luxury car, you don't give a shit about maintenance and you buy it for comfort, not track times.

They're right to shit on some of the S and RS models as they're meant to be high performance variants of the regular models, but for the most part, are beaten by the competition.

The vast majority of posters here own sub $15,000 cars and prefer to work on them on their own. Nothing wrong with that, just you can't really expect to get proper recommendations and advice on luxury cars because people on /o/ don't own them. But they'll be quick to bring up uncles or friends who do when arguing whatever their point is.

tl;dr: don't expect to get real recommendations from people who have no experience with them

>>16711713
Think you're too good for a golf, faggot?

>>16711783
>a3
>luxury
Pick one

>>16711820
What's your definition of luxury?

>>16711824
Big engine, rwd, heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel, big back seat, not a rebadged vw golf.

>>16711624
Because its literally overpriced VW garbage

>>16711624
They make BMW look like Toyota when it comes to reliability.

>>16711975
>RWD lowers the amount of interior space
>all current luxury cars use engines with similar displacement/cylinders in each class of vehicles
>golf is a rebadged A3, not the other way around

sounds like you want a modernized el dorado or something

>>16712052
>sounds like you want a modernized el dorado or something
>this faggot doesn't want a modernized El Dorado

everything that /o/ hate actually is good

>>16712073
i don't because i'm not brain dead

>>16712091
>implying you aren't brain dead for not wanting a modernized 'darado

You're a retard and a fruit bowl

>>16712052
Doesn't matter which way they rebadge it. The A3 is a $20k car with lipstick on it.

>>16712132
no person in their right mind wants a boat with wheels from a manufacturer that caters to geriatric niggers and faggots who like shiny plastic interiors

>>16712144
And it sells. That's all that matters.

>>16712158
That doesn't make it not shit.

>>16712158
Yeah it sells for the same reason the Mercedes CLA sells.

Its cheap and lets badge whores jerk off to their "luxury" badge.

>>16711713
Absolutely do not buy

>>16712174
someone sounds a little jealous.

>>16712164
It does everything it's supposed to do. Just because it doesn't fulfill /o/'s delusional requirements for what a luxury car is supposed to be, doesn't mean it doesn't work in the real world for the people who actually have the money to buy it.

>>16712182
Shit no

I could go out and buy a nicer car for less money but without the "luxury" badge.

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Idk, I like mine and I've never had major issues with any of them that I've owned.

And that's coming from someone that's used to honda levels of reliability.

>>16712174
Pretty much. It exists solely for people who want that luxury status but are too cheap for what used to be considered entry level models. Pretty much every manufacturer does this, don't know why it causes such butthurt

>>16712193
Fuck I want an avant but all I see around me are sedans

i like em'


i like how bullshit tunable they are now

>buy a used S3
>spend less than 1k on apr parts
>pull on corvettes and other weak "supercars"

:)))))

good shit.

>>16712220
Or you could buy a golf r for 20k less.

>>16712356

i like the interior of the audi, eventhough minimalist, more than the one in the golf.

>>16712449
The interior is not worth not getting a manual.

>>16712458

the dct makes better use of the power than i ever will. I can't shift faster than it can, and for a car whose main purpose (personally) would be to stomp on the gas and pull away from people, the dsg or whatever is a much better option.

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>>16711713

>>16712043
>Citation needed

>>16711695
"every single owner is a massive cunt"
This applies to BRZ/GT86 owners as well.

>>16712497
Even shitty consumer reports lists Audi in the top 5 for reliability

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>>16712052
>rwd
>not luxury
Luxury is about effort and comfort.
Rwd with lots of torque=effortless cruising, like s65 merc
Even their 4cyl turbos are tuned for higher torque.
Neck yourself, my dude

>>16711624
>someone will make a post bashing Audi.
No kidding. Someone will always make a thread bashing every company, except for Toyota or Lexus for some reason. It's a really strange phenomenon.

>>16711624

Weebs.
Just Weebs.

Volkswagen/Audi are better-looking, have nicer, more ergonomic interiors, and better tuned suspension/ride than the Hondas that /o/ lusts after.

>>16712806

Shills + Fanboys = Toyota quality myth

Posting this in reference to trims around the 328/335i, A4/A5 and so on.

Audi: Looks good on the inside, looks good on the outside, offers basically nothing over competitors. While they do come in manual, you'd be a moron to buy a manual S4/S5 over a 335i and a moron to buy an automatic S4/S5 over whatever the fuck Mercedes' equivalent is.
BMW: Comfy, "sporty" (335i, M235i/M240i, Ms in general and so on) with actual driver feel, manual, nice-looking and reasonable quality interiors. Blends performance and luxury pretty well. Gives you the most for your money of German brands and overall cheaper to own and maintain than competitors.
Mercedes: Highest quality interiors (although in my opinion they look awful), however Lexus pretty much does everything the brand does better. Good-looking interiors? Comfortable interiors? Better driver feel, FAR more reliable, parts are cheaper, way less of a ripoff and so on.
Porsche: Affordable luxury sports cars with good driver feel, manual and won't cost a fortune to own.

tldr;
Audi: Marginalized by competition
BMW: Sporty**luxury cars
Mercedes: Lexus does it better*
Porsche: Luxury sports cars
**referring to quick and good driver feels

These posts are what I write instead of assignments I need to turn in shortly.

>>16712806
Yea na, fuck new toyotas. All their lights are either poorly aimed or have shit projectors blasting light everywhere.
Its always a corolla or prius flooding windshields with their lowbeams

Not to mention the drivers. new civic drivers are just as shit

>>16712744
Drive a modern FWD, they don't deliver power like your 90s Civic.

>>16712943
>cvt
Yea it's much worse than my shitbox

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>>16712864

>Lexus does everything Mercedes does better
Well, they certainly astroturf internet threads better you fucking shill.

Even if that were true I still wouldn't consider buying one since they look like they were designed by a six-year-old

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>>16712973
>doesnt want to drive his inner 6 year old imagination mobile

>>16711624
Average poster here makes 20k, what do you expect

>>16712969
>gets passed by camrys

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>>16711783
I own an 86' S-Class.

>>16713020
What's your point?
Nobody here is living in 1986

>>16713009
You just described every brz owner

>>16713027
>just you can't really expect to get proper recommendations and advice on luxury cars because people on /o/ don't own them

I own one, that's my point.

>>16713063
If we were living in 1986 yeah but that is in no way comparable to even base model luxury cars of today.

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>>16713007
>tfw make 21k

hit me right in the feels

>>16712052
>he doesn't like cars with 500 ci engines
The entirety of Europe should be rangeban

>>16712482
Who cares. If you want to go fast why are you buying a shitty turbo 4 when you could get a mustang gt or used vette? You should be buying it for fun and a manual is more fun.

>>16713184
>i am autistic and everyone needs to do what i say

watch out everyone, give the fedoralord some space, he might freak out

>>16712973
Ignoring how much of an idiot you are for thinking companies would bother shilling on here, why the fuck would I be praising BMW and Porsche who compete with Lexus?

>>16713183
Nice reading comprehension you moist faggot

>>16713200
Please, he is obviously mentally challenged, just leave him alone and maybe he'll go back to /pol/

>>16713183
>500ci
>190hp

"luxury"

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>>16713183
Doesn't matter much, in 10 years it'll all be electric anyways and internal combustion cars will be illegal.

>>16712864
>Porsche
>Affordable

Maybe if you compare it to Ferrari it is, but buying and owning a Porsche isn't affordable by any stretch of the imagination.

I though Audi's Quattro was supposed to be a pretty good AWD system?

>>16713273
It's haldex on the a3, aka fwd until it slips.

>>16713286
I thought it was a proactive or whatever system, so that AWD kicks in right before it slips?

>>16713273
>>16713286
>>16713308
No, audis AWD system was AWD all the time, Look up ultra quattro and be even more disappointed.

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>>16713286
>aka fwd until it slips.

I fucking hate audis but this is wrong.

Newer haldex will shift before the slip

>>16713332
ok, this is wrong, how does a car know its going to slip before the slip? I want you to explain it to me in detail how a car knows how to react to a slip before it's slipping.

>>16713329
I guess I'd have to drive it before I could make a judgment, but most reviews say it is proactive so it works before you need it. If it works like it says it does, I don't see a problem with it. Why burn extra fuel when you're cruising if you don't need to

I can't find Volkswagen owners manuals on their website.

Are they purposefully hidden or am I just not looking hard enough?

>>16713359
Computers read the road and predict when the car will need it. If you're traveling steady on a gravel road you probably won't but if you turn the wheel you probably will, so it kicks in the AWD

>>16713359
Because its not 100% FWD, some amount is always going to the rear in gen 5 Haldex

Then under hard acceleration it automatically diverts even more to the back

>>16713359
Lots of computers and sensors

>>16713367
Chiltons manual, good luck finding a normal manual that isn't overpriced
>>16713383
The correct answer, haldex does put 5 percent in the newer gens
>>16713373
I understand it in this way.
>>16713366
>>16713388
I'd be very hard pressed to see a computer pick up on cold morning days where there is frost on the road, like very little things that aren't easily "seeable" like if i'm on a watery road from a storm, would that just make the computer say, "all the time AWD right now".
Don't get me wrong I think that cars can have good tech in them, but I don't think were at the level of discernment in "road" technology, when Benz was showing off their automated car, it had a few problems making the correct turn to follow the gps cordinate.

>>16713438
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/whats-so-ultra-about-audis-new-quattro-all-wheel-drive/

Audi is goat, drive one and you'll know

Jap shitboxes need not apply

>>16713448
its a vw and its less reliable than lexus

>>16713445
>It basically builds a constantly updating profile of driving conditions and driver behavior.
Thank you, I was under the impression it sensed it through external measures, not through memory.

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>>16713469
So are Mercedes and BMW, what's your point?

>>16713506
>JD Power

Retard detected

>>16713469
Also less fun to drive, uglier, and worse interior. Lexus is for grandpas

>>16713548
you can't drive your audi if its broken nigger

>>16713557
meh my audi never left me stranded , nice memes tho

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>>16713547
not an argument, stay btfo

>>16713548
A Lexus IS is more fun to drive and has better interior and an Audi A4.

I can understand the exterior is polarizing and not for everyone, though.

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>>16713601
>>16713506


You are a retard for using JD tower for shilling but since you did, here are 2017 results.

>Audi is less reliable than Merc and BMW

Get fucked by your own source, VW cocksucker.

Who the Fuck keeps making all these posts and threads about /o/ bashing audi?

>>16713671
If we ignore JD Power like you want, my second image still applies, so you're still wrong lmao.

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>>16713634
Lmao no it's not. Lexus is doesn't even top car and driver. Motor trend also says the a4 is impeccable

>>16713708
All I did was call you a retard for using JD Power, you can shill all you want your Audi.

>>16713728
Is that your argument, some shitty website endorsement?

Here is a real word argument. The driver's knee rest in the Audi has cheap hard plastic while the Lexus has leather, also unlike the Audi the Lexus is RWD which allows you to have more fun. Not to mention it is better build and will last forever. You get more value per dollar with the IS.

>>16713601
Look how terribly low VW placed in comparison to Audi. They are the same company, and share many parts and what not.

I personally just don't trust VW/Audi.

>>16711713 decided against the A3.

Acura ILX or Lexus IS?

>>16713840
The Lexus uses ancient technology, there's no innovation in it.

>>16713269
Find any other sports/supercars with comparable performance, driver feels and interiors. I'll wait.

>>16713994
At the same price point or cheaper*

I was planning on getting a used B7 A4 because I wanted an AWD sedan that was comfortable for long road trips, but if you guys have advice on a better car that meets those requirements, I'd be glad to hear them.

American, about 10k to spend. thanks

I owned one, audi can fuck off.

>>16714122
find a awd Taurus or a subaru

DO NOT BUY AUDI OFF WARRANTY

>>16714122
You can find an AWD Infiniti G in that price range. Subarus, maybe Acura in that range too.
All I know about the Audi is that the 2.0T does tend to burn a little oil and there was an issue with coil packs. There might have been a recall for that.

I have a Mk1 TT. Haven't had it long, and did have to put some work into it after I bought it, but that wasn't really the car's fault, more the previous owner.

So far I love it. It might share a platform with VW's but not one twat on the road will mistake a TT for Golf. Other luxury makers share platforms with "lesser" cars (Lexus, Acura, Cadillac, Infiniti, etc) but those cars don't get bashed to the level of Audi.

Maybe it will be a shitshow, maybe I'll regret getting it in a couple years, but I think you have to take each car on its own merits. If every Audi on the road are now and always have been shitheaps no one would buy them.

This board is a huge echo chamber of autism. Once an opinion gets seized upon, all the snot nosed 12 year olds who shit up this board jump on it and it becomes some sort of autistic /o/ wisdom. If you like Audis and can afford them, get one.

>>16712639
This.

Where's the big meme about them being unreliable coming from?

>>16713020
>>16713063
it's worth less than my jetta, who gives a fuck

>>16712193
Damn now I want an Avant.
My old man had one, thing was fucking great.

>>16714623
From poor people buying already beat to shit used ones from shady people and then neglecting to maintain them

>>16713020
Not gonna lie that interior gives me a real comfy vibe.

>>16714331
Well put

>>16711652
audis are cheaper than civics here

>>16713184
>manual is more fun
t. never driven a manual
t. doesn't even own a fucking car

DCT's are fun too.

and because you can beat a mustang and a corvette with a tuned S3

>>16713978
>wanting new flashy crap rather than old reliability

>>16715200
Then just buy a 98 avalon, fuck outta here Luddite

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>>16715206
Stay BTFO

>>16716348
>torque converter