/ORG/ - Off Road General

>>16708289
Little cold in the back, Taynger?

Is there a current production car that is suited for offroading? Off the top of my head I think for offroading you want a solid drive axle (or is it independent?)

>>16708311
>I think for offroading you want a solid drive axle (or is it independent?)
Depends on what exactly you're doing with it. "offroading" is very general.

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>>16708306
Nah. I have a few bags of insulation

>>16708356
Do you sleep in the back surrounded by the insulation?

>>16708366
No you dub cuck. He sleeps in your wife's bed.

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>>16708381
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>>16708366
I sleep in the cab like a civilised trucclodyte.

Is a 4runner just a tacoma with a topper or are there mechanical differences?

ok huys im going to college up north (on lake superior) this fall and i want to make my stock xj (4.0, 4x4, auto) better in the snow/ light trails
ibe never offroaded it before which is why im so hesitant to mod the fuck out of it, theres pretty much zero trails within an hour of my house ;_;
i have a couple grand saved up but i dont want to spend more that 1500
so far im thinking:
new alternator (bought not installed yet)
new ball joints upper and lower
new rear brake drums/shoes
block heater
full coolant/heater core flush
snow tires? (235/75/r15)

Talk me out of buying a Montero

>>16708453
What the fuck. Why not take it up before Autumn? Also. Confederation College?

Where are you located? There have to be some trails if you live in North America. Or a forest.

>>16708487
im driving it up there in august butim spending all winter up there
currently live in detroit metro, college is northern michigan university

>>16708511
If you cross the border into Onterrible, I can show you a few trails near London. But it'll have to be past May.
Bring Scotch and Founders Beer and that Suburban guy.

Anyway. The most important part for your XJ is a lift (coil upgrade is good) and larger tyres / wheels. Since its bone stock right now and you have time, I would strongly recommend waiting for an offroad ready XJ to come on the market and buy it for $3500-$5000 instead. This would save you money and add-on time for your upgrades.

>>16708462
>mitsu be shit

>>16708556
Seems like a 4runner minus tax

>>16708311
The Ford Raptor does quite well offroad.

It's also 50k new.

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Fuck... these threads move so fast nowadays I have trouble keeping up haha. Work has gone from a shit show to a downright fanfuckingtastic Clusterfuck. Between a bank audit, computer problems, short staffing, a new very problematic customer, and contractors going rogue I can handle one, maybe 2 NOT ALL FUCKING 5!

I think I may just say fuck it and bite the bullet and take Murph to a mechanic instead of fixing everything myself and dealing with distractions with work all the time.

>>16708453
For anything in Michigan a stock XJ is fine when it comes to snow/light trails. It looks like the biggest thing you are focusing on is maintenance which is what I would be doing too if I were in your shoes. As far as tires go I would recommend the KO2s. Meme tire I know but they last, which is good for students haha. Biggest thing to work on is getting experience driving off road and you should do well.

You on the map anon?

>>16708547
Why have him bring founders when I LIVE 10 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE BREWERY!!!!!!!!!!

>>16708289
Why did you take the tint off your back window Tay?

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>>16708619
Because you didn't answer me last thread, who the fuck owns Herby, I want to buy him and race score 5 class

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>>16708656
>not class 11

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>>16708669
What do you think I have, a death wish?

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>>16708656
>buying a beetle to race class 5 unlimited

you do realize that class 5's are basically ecotec powered tubeframes with fodrill suspension, mendeola trans, and half of a fiberglass bug shell right?

>>16708619
im the purple maker in 48098

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Anyone interested in an /org discord server?
https://discord.gg/wY7zM

Also Map wasn't posted in first post. I am disappoint in burb bretheren...
www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2389619


>>16708656
Not sure yet. The 4 cars are parked in front of a building I frequently pass by, but nobody ever seems to be there. I'm trying to find it out myself as I have been tempted many times to pickup a first gen Cougar. I'd snatch it up if my LTD LX project was done. Bug #2 looks pretty neat as well.

>>16708733
Fuck the link didn't work

www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2389619

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>>16708689
No, not quite, they're still very limited vehicles.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCORE_Class_5

>>16708689
isn't that class 4? I thought class 5 had to be VW engine

>>16708748
Not just VW engines, but any manufactured engine that was originally air cooled, or late model VW 4 cyls.

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>>16708266
>trying to climb a hill in your 2WD Tacoma

K

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5996910939.html

About to give up looking for a Montero. 9001 listings for montero sports, only full size Montero that isn't salvage, 200k miles, blown engine, or all three wants for 4000 more than it's worth.

So much for avoiding toyota tax.

>>16708958
>tfw my aunt had one of those with 4x4 and they traded it in for some value towards a dodge avenger

>>16708571
parts availability and durability
they are decent trucks though especially for the price

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>>16709018
Was also thinking about an XJ if I can find one in decent condition.
https://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/5988610435.html
Might check this one out and offer 2k if it's still up this weekend
>and if it actually shifts into 4WD
>mfw "never used"

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>>16708547
Can't do both beer and scotch for free.

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>>16709060
this one reeks of bullshit
all flags are up

>>16709161
>grandma daily driven
>slime all over tires
Yep, it's only 20 minutes from my parents house though, I've got a couple to check out near there this weekend anyway.

>>16709191
>>16709060
Try your best to find a 96 and up, they have better unibody strengthening. It's not crucial, but something to consider.

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>>16709060
if im totally honest, personally id buy a monte over an xj. but the xj is the more logical choice in nearly every way

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>mfw my rtic cooler just came
time to camp it up this weekend friendos

>>16709374
That pic makes me kek every time

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2wd tacoma reporting in!

....i reallu need to get more pics...

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>>16709234
>Tfw no limb risers or comfy awning
...or anyone to oberland with nearby

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>>16708837
Aight so those LED floods on my bumper actually kinda kick ass compared to my "stock" fog lights

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>grandfather has a 1999 Nissan Pathfinder he is getting rid of, wants $2k for it
>180k miles but engine doesn't burn a drop of oil and has been maintained
>has put 7k miles on it in 7 years
>go to look at it since I was pretty sure I was gonna buy it
>2WD

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All these people on craigslist that don't understand CA law

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So I did some research and found a surprising plethora of trails in my area and a lot of them seem really awesome so I know what I'm doing this weekend

>>16709567
LEDs are great for cheap lighting, this 32" bar was like $45 and it lights everything up real nice

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>>16709545
>planning on limb risers, awning, and fender guards for mine

>>16709567
LED floods and fogs shouldn't even be compared. They serve very different purposes.

>>16709545
thats not my rig but awning was one of the best investments ive ever made
limb risers look too try hard for me even though im sure theyre incredibly useful

>>16709545
nigga lets overland this summer
-48098

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>>16709597
Yeah they don't do well in fog and rain and all that, but luckily in SoCal we don't get too much of that

>>16709600
By "fog lights" I meant my old turn signal housings that I converted into fog lights. They kinda worked but they made better DRLs than actual foglights (not that I use DRLs in the first place)

>>16709626
>They kinda worked but they made better DRLs than actual foglights
Well of course. That's like saying a Prius makes a better sedan than it does a box van. It doesn't matter how you use it, it's still not a box van. Fog light refers to the pattern created by the light. If it doesn't create a fog beam, then it's not a fog light. Fog light doesn't just refer to an extra pair of lights in the bumper that you turn on when you have trouble seeing.

Nice I'm druncc. Taytay is actually so cute sometimes I can't even handle.

>>16709597
Good. What about buying those modded XJs?
Check they're not protected against winter rocking, though.

>>16708619
Because if he's starting university next year, he's probably still in high school right now, heh.

Also yes. Bls Founders when we meet in the spring.

>>16709076
personal supplier =/= importing
YOU come to Canada bae <33

>>16708573
They don't. 3 heavy. New ones have 3.5L V6s. C'mon.

>>16709567
Wait for actual fog to come in

>>16709646
Then I never had foglights in the first place, don't have foglights now, and these are just a vast improvement over my previous floodlights.

My point being these lights were a good upgrade

>>16709673
Its San Diego. Not only do I not need fogs, but CHP would get me for using auxiliary lights on the street

>>16709545
>Nobody to overland with

Nigga you serious? Look at the fuckin map you got 3 guys close by one of em in the same city quit your bitching

Colorado meet when?

Anybody know of some trails in SoCal? More specifically LA and OC

>>16710067
I've been trying to see if YJ wants to do a meet at a trail in Lake Elsinore (technically not LA but whatever) that's pretty fun, albeit a bit short

El Cariso Truck Trail. Gives you a good view of the lake and it takes you right back up to Ortega Highway

>>16710100
If I buy a truck I'll go with you, I'm in Murrieta. Don't think my spectra will make it through the trail.

>>16710150
Probably not. If we do a meet though before you have a truck I can let you ride in the Taco for sure, though! Don't want anyone to miss out

They have have stopped us from uploading pics, BUT THEY WILL NEVER STOP /ORG FROM BIRBPOSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>16710221
Yeah what's up with the images refusing to upload? Is it because of all the avatarfagging?

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>>16710257
We can't avatarfag anymore?

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>>16710266
Maybe the mods are punishing us for reaching image limit before bump limit 3 threads in a row

>>16710221
>BUT THEY WILL NEVER STOP /ORG FROM BIRBPOSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think they did.

>>16710221
Yea... I think they stopped you

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>>16710221
wait why cant we upload pics anymore
was it the shitposting?
thats what makes this place great mods BLS

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>>16710221
birb test

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>>16710100
I haven't had time to figure it out yet taco bro, I don't have plans this coming weekend but that's too short of planning for me, then the weekend after i'm going to TDS, and after that valley of the moon trail with a taco bro with 1tons and 40's. So basically I can't do a meet up for another month.

On another note, fuck phones and planned obsolescence. That shit pisses me off, I've had an s4 for years, and just about 3 months ago I've had to get a new one every month because every single one of them would stop charging. Also fuck apple.

>>16710067
As for you, I know a ton of trails now, but most are closer to SD and all 4wd rated. Are you 4wd or foolish 2wd

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Taytest

>>16710871
I still have my BlackBerry from 2013. Planning to get the Priv or Mercury next year.

Hey the only issue with 2wd is occasionally stopping to unstuck them. I wouldn't mind that if I knew the person and if they had a front winch.

Hey do you know if there are modified Jeep rentals in Socal like they have in Iceland?

>>16710904
I don't think so, but there are in moab utah haha. You could just rent a utv out in ocotillo wells if you really wanted to.

>>16710908
>MOAB
Oh lawd. I've heard stories about that and if you think Buckid and his parents are annoying, you gotta try out these designated offroad competition meets.
>MUH 10psi PUTS ME IN 40s SENPAI
>I SWEAR

I mean, I love a frat parties, watching men drive 3m in 2 minutes, and Florida Georgia Line's shitty music as much as the next guy. But there's a certain point... I know, I know. Normies ree.

Maybe I'll try sand jumping from Utah to California one day. we're still planning that Iceland 3day tour with Arctic Trucks' Defender / Hilux rental.

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>>16710871
I'll be out at TDS on Saturday afternoon once I get off work, but yeah all my weekends are booked until mid-March anyways so an Elsinore meet would still be a ways off.

>foolish 2wd
:^)

>>16710904
2wd is pretty capable with a locker until you hit low-grip terrain like sand, mud, or snow. Otherwise I've gotten away with some stupid (foolish 2wd) shit just because I'm locked

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>>16711221
>>16710904
I concur with the notion that a lot of people really underestimate the ability of 2wd. I bring back my old case of one of my old Burbs where I busted my 4wd after I may or may not have gotten carried away and may or may not jumped it. Even with no 4wd and bald street tires I could get it pretty far, EVEN in low traction stuff like mid and sand. It all comes down to the driver, and knowing where and when to build/conserve your momentum.

>>16710270
>>16710462
>>16710266
I think the problem happened across the whole site. Whatever it was it's fixed now.

>>16709920
>Someone in the same town as me.
Haha you're right. I actually met up with that guy for the first /org meetup haha. He hasn't been around here though, and I'm not autistic enough to track him down.

>>16709614
>>16708705
I'm down for oberlanding! You ever been to Silver lake? It's a bit of a drive for you since it's up north on Lake Michigan, but it's DEFINITELY WORTH IT!

>>16709600
Gonna look kickass! Limb risers would actually be super easy for me. I could just run cables up from the brush guard to the mounds on the roof for the old emergency lightbar.

An awning is in the works, I just need to figure out how to mount it. It looks like they mount on the roof rack cross rails but I don't have any and getting them may be complicated due to the AC unit up top.

Jury is still out on fender guards. Leaning towards them but i would do it after replacing the front bumper which isn't happening for a while.

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>>16710871
I am 4wd m8

>>16711396
Only 225 miles from 48428, not too much of a drive for me assuming I get this job and can afford parts.

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>>16711396
>>16711465
Keep me in mind.

Sarnia's only 300 klicks from Toronto and 100klicks to Flint. 800km round trip is something I do every month for work so as long as I have Taytay's discography, I'll be good

>>16711221
Come along. But I promise you 2WD lockers aren't going to get you out of these Southern Ontario mud ruts.

We'll just weld the winch hook on your front bumper. It'll save us the hassle (;

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>>16711461
I've been looking more and more into these Heep restoration projects now that the weather has reached above 5 degrees.

I wonder if you can get an old rutted out Heep and put an aluminium body on it to save weight.
>$2000 for rotten jeep
>$4000 for new cast aluminium shell
>inb4 just get a suzuki samurai
Well I might be hated and want to kill myself. But at least I'm not a poorfag.

How much do the I-6 YJ softop weigh? That's also a really comfy picture anon. Have you pinned yourself on the /ORG/ map?

>>16711502
They make fiberglass tubs for under $2000

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>>16708266
discoveryfag checking in

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>>16711502
> How much do the I-6 YJ softop weigh?

Not sure desu. Stock jeep with stock sized tires, half doors and a soft top.

And I have not pinned myself on the map

>>16711521
Take the inch, go the mile. Fibreglass is really fucking annoying to work with the second it has a crack. I wouldn't trust the body with it especially when you're being pelted with rocks.
Iunno anon. What do you see as the advantage of fibreglass over metal workings?

It's gotten to the point where I would love to buy an old Land Rover just because of the stock aluminium posted >>16711522

>>16711534
Pin yourself, white YJ guy www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2389619

Le wikibaedia says it weighs around 3.2tonnes with the hardtop I*6, 4.2L. Hmm. I wonder if my Taynger Ranger can tow this comfortably for 200+km.

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>>16711489
U fakkin wot m8

(Yeah mud is probably my worst enemy besides snow, which I never see anyways)

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>>16708744
>>inb4 just get a suzuki samurai

Just get a Geo Trackalacka.

Pic related in its natural habitat (Yankee Boy Basin, Ouray CO)

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Anyone else here with some Soviet machinery?

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>>16711802
TRACKIE PAL! YOU'RE BACK!! What's Trackalalacking!? Also seems like you missed the samurai copypasta. Does anyone have it to share with the goatherd?

I would actually get a tracker since the thing's like one tonne but they're not very common up here. Also the weird issue of having too small of a wheelbase, heh.
What a nice picture, though. Here's one for you.

>>16711740
Weld a permanent hook from Taynger to Taco. Together forever.

>>16711939
Parts are too annoying to source outside of Eastern Europe and Northern Asia.

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>>16711802

Awesome location. I'm just waiting for an opportunity to go back there for a week weeks again.

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>>16711992
>Parts are too annoying to source outside of Eastern Europe and Northern Asia.

Yeah i can see that, i get all my parts directly from the military.

But they have quite alot on this site aswell https://www.russianspares.com/index.php

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>>16711559
I'm pinned m8

>>16711559
Fiberglass doesn't rust, and that's about it.

>>16712210
Oh otay... Aluminium it is.

I wonder how much a titanium body would be. It's my second favourite transition metal right after osmium.

>>16712163
Oh otay! I don't see anyone around you except maybe that guy with the 8th gen corolla. Go meet him.

>>16712042
Oh! Otay! They're really neat to see. I just wish that they had such support outside of those areas.
I mean, with the pricing and import fees, I might as well just get two (if I were buying one in the first place) and use the second one to supplement broken parts off the first. Are they aluminium framed?

>>16711992
Taynger/Taco OTP

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>>16712235
>Are they aluminium framed?

Only soviet steel here buddy

>>16708266
>suburban offroading
what engine/tranny combo?
I love the shit out of subbies as they are the ultimate highway eaters but I dont have a clue if they're any good offroad when stock.
I figure they still would since
>yuge V8s
>AWD
>live axles

>>16712255
Touch noses.
Fags.

>>16711396
>Jury is still out on fender guards. Leaning towards them but i would do it after replacing the front bumper which isn't happening for a while.
Yeah I'm not doing fender guards until I build my own bumper and rock sliders, and I'm not doing limb risers until I build my own bumper and roof basket.

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>>16712360
>AWD

>>16712374
fug, I mean 4WD
I'm not from the anglosphere so we just use 4x4 all the time for both things anyway

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>>16712401
just busting your balls

>>16708453

I know there are a few new A/T tires on the market with a "W" tagged on to the name, like Cooper ATW(?). Basically an AT tire with extra siping and a softer compound so you get good snow traction and some of the durability of a true AT.

I run General Altimax Arctic on my 4Runner (in a narrower than stock 245/75R16 profile) and they work fantastic both on slick highways as well as on snowy/icy trails.

A set of tire chains and a tow strap are good additions to your list. But you're absolutely right to place an emphasis on maintenance items, good on you.

>>16708446

Front end suspension and drivetrains are shared, but the Tacoma uses a US-only C-channel frame that in northern climates has a bit of a poor reputation in regards to rust. The 4Runner uses a full boxed frame shared with the "medium duty" Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 90 (as well as Hilux Surf in 185 body style ie JDM 4Runner). Tacoma uses traditional pickup leaf springs out back, 4Runner has an excellent coil-spring 5 link rear end (smoother ride, great articulation).

The prior gen 4Runner shared its frame (fully boxed) with the Toyota Pickup, both using the heavier duty global Hilux frame.

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>mfw
>backlog of items yesterday since long weekend
>sore as fuck from reorganising boxes yesterday filled with ceramic and glass
>6 hours of manuel labour meant for manuel
>one day after we had to fix the Jeep Tank on the trail
That was two days of:
>hiking between cold trail and base camp
>riding a snowmobile
>tanks out on a 40degree steep hill
>push a 100lb wooden cart carrying 100lbs of tools, trucc jack, wood up the hill
>most awkward and annoying part of my life
>no gloves so fingers in snow the entire time
>awkward pacing and dark as fuck
>ends up getting really sick today
>back in excruciating pain
>thinking the whole time:
>how the fuck do those obese people offroad!?
He wants me to go back tomorrow and go around a few other snowy trails.

[spoiler]I might just do it [/spoiler]

At least I got to shitpost on the internet for the majority of today.

>>16712255
What's OTP in this context? Not over the phone, eh?

>>16711396
i went to silver lake summer 2015 and beat a rented quad like a rented mule, was breddy fun
100% down for weekend trip

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>>16712640
First gen Tacoma has a boxed in frame like the 4Runner. Standard Cab shares a frame whereas Xtra Cab and Double Cab models have an extended but still boxed frame.

2nd and 3rd gens don't get box frames though

>>16712693
OTP: one true pair. Generally used when referring to two parties as inseparable or, at the very least, highly compatible.

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I wish I could unfuck it.
It's a '90 YJ that originally had the 2.5, 5 speed. Now it's got a rebuilt sbc 350 with an edelbrock carb and noname headers. Still has the np231, d30 and d35.
Should I:
Buy a clean tub from down south, considering the frame is in A+ shape, or repair the bubba'd tub that's on it?
The windshield mount corners rusted out, none of the doors shut like they should, and it has a pretty skookum rollbar reinforcement.
I'd also like to find another red grille. This one was sprayed black.

>>16713060
Are you yellow YJ guy?

>>16713093
Nope, just another Michigander. I've got a rotten '99 XJ too, though.

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80 series Land cruiser or a mid 90s 4 runner? I want something to camp with and hit trails.

>>16708266
That says Silverado but isn't it a Suburban body?

>>16713157
Silverado was a trim level until the C/K series ended.

>>16708462
I drive one.
Hard as shit to work on. Couldn't even do the spark plugs myself. Had to practically remove the head just to replace them.

>>16709673
Bringing anything into the country is importing. Doesn't matter if you're an individual or a company.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/atl-lat-eng.html

>>16713060
I'd just replace the tub. What blind bastard hacked up your front fenders?

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>>16713093
are you blue land cruiser guy?

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>>16709409
oww fuk ya nigga

>>16713224
Are you crownon?

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>>16713060
I really like those KC daylighters. They stand out but not in a bad way. Plus I think them and PIAA are the only one who makes pipe locking mounts specifically for stingers and tube bumpers which is a nice attention to detail.

I have those 75er KCs which do the trick for now and tries not to attract too much attention.

>>16713120
Land cruiser would get you more space for less money.

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>>16713060
Are those front revolver shackles? How are those all I hear is fuck yes, or fuck no.

>>16709409

yyyyooooo Utility Package represent!

I've got one just like it, only I've had mine for like a year now and I hound people with the TRD Off Road version for their parts. Got a suspension and fog lights for about $300 total.

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>>16709409
>....i reallu need to get more pics...

yes you do
post 'em up

>>16713235
i think he's in jail or the drunk tank

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>>16713204
No idea, probably the same guy that shoehorned the seats in. They both mount on 1.5" of washers, except for the inner, rear leg, which mounts on a piece of angle iron that was welded to the trans tunnel.

>>16713258
Yeah, they're ice lights. I just wish I could find a set of nice stock bumpers. The tubes just don't do it for me.

>>16713274
It sure looks like it, but they're covered in rubberized undercoating, so I can't say for sure. Same design, though.

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>>16713098
Where in Michigan?
MAP YOURSELF!

>>16711939
>>16712042
>>16712262
I want to cross the Siberian wilderness in a former Soviet army truk.

>>16712903
Who are you? Yellow YJ guy?

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>>16713360
No

>>16713360
>MAP YOURSELF!
Alrighty, I just did. I'm here in Holly.

>>16713360
>>16713360
im rusty stock xj from troy guy

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>>16713360
I WOULD RATHER DILDO MY OWN ASSHOLE WITH AN ICEPICK THAN MAP MYSELF AND FIND OUT IM NEAR YOU FAGGGGGGGGGOTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>16713174
Yeah, think I'm gonna end up looking for a nicer XJ

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well this is a whole bunch of shit.

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>>16713420
alex pls calm down, the next water filter shipment is on the way. in the mean time have you considered adding yourself to our wonderful map??

www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2389619

:^)

>>16713420
What's with /org/'s fascinations with buttholes?

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>>16713454
nice haul

also
who's david

>>16713471
nice work detective anonomouse

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>>16713461
ALEX WILL NEVER CALM DOWN YOU KNOW THIS
(i am on the map already tho btw tehe)

>>16713470
we wont know until we get to see them ;)

>>16713471
haha shit for a second I thought I must have taken a picture of a shipping label. wew

Okay senladpais, last question. Gen 3 4runner or gen wun xterrible? Benefits of the goofy nissan are newer, lower mileage examples for less money. Assume both staying stock. Getting really irritated by the toyota tax.

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>>16713624
>xterra
>buying a front diff that is made of glass

>>16713824
replace it with a portal

problem solved

>>16713610
so? if you took a pic of the shipping label, so what?

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>>16713486
are you yellow yj guy?

>>16713854
>replacing a diff with a portal box
You're as bad as the kids that say "Cummins swap it" every time someone mentions the possibility of an engine swap in a truck.
Or the kids that recommend CAI and exhaust to get more power out of a shitbox.

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>>16713470
Because we're all a bunch of buttholes

>>16713824

>front diff

oh honey buns it wasn't just the front diff, the whole transmission was a Christmas ornament

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>>16713854
>spend an extra 5k on it
>then itll be good
kys

>>16713937
WHAT IS THIS NEW MEME ILL KILL U

>>16713980
ill agree that wasnt good either but the front diff was the worst of it
i guess really it was just the whole front end
and most of the rear

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>>16713980
>oh honey buns

>>>>>>>tumblr

>>16714019
Are you angry alex jonesposter?

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>>16714037
arent we all angry alex jonesposter?
arent we all, anon?

>>16713854
then the internet would have my full name, address and phone number? that seems like it could get annoying somehow

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>>16714082
Well. Not really.

>>16713317
I'd just wait. Or you could toss up a CL advert to do a swap with someone. Their solid for your tube+$200 or something.
Someone might do it if they have a jeep they aren't driving because of kids or something. If anything, you might get someone who wants to buy your bumper so you can have a few extra sheckles to go buy / swap your solid bumper.

Looking at old solid jeep bumpers and wish I could get pricing like that for my trucc.

>>16714101
>implying anyone cares about a random anon on the most normie general thread on the most normie board
maybe taytay's bumbumhole

>>16714115
eh. I could still see some asshole sending me a pizza or something. I wouldn't mind but I'm not a fan of any of the pizza places that deliver around here.

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>>16714102
>Well. Not really.

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>>16714115
>maybe taytay's bumbumhole

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>tfw Bronco has been kill for months

I really should fix this pos

>>16714168
>that rust
nah id probably just sell it tbhfam

>>16714125
I'd just send you an envelope of FRESH.

>>16714187
Looks like it's mostly under control, and he could always cut the rest of the wheel wells out for more clearance.

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>>16714187
36 years of being a lot truck hasn't helped it none.

>>16714217
>ive determined this by seeing a single side shot of the vehicle
my man if the wheel wells and bottoms of the door are that visibly bad id be shocked if the frame didnt look like sand at this point
i love older broncos but the rust from the inside out

test

at some point in the future I'd love to get a diesel straight 6 toyota hilux. are they any good for offroading? hauling? anyone with experience/information is appreciated.

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>>16714224
Honestly, for an 81' deep in the rust belt, it's not the worst I've seen. Your average plow truck on the road is in way worst shape.

I haven't even plowed with it in years, but I can't bring myself to scrap her.

>>16714222
>>16714255
i almost feel bad anon. im sorry
the shitbox passion in these threads is admirable. if you think shes worth saving and are willing to do so, im sure she is.

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well...theres glycol in there somewhere, i could at least smell it..kinda

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>>16708266
why the fuck is the map not on the op

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>16714269
Honestly, it's not worth saving. However I refuse to scrap it. It's had a broken radius arm for two years, a broken driveshaft this year. It's beat to hell and back, but I won't put it down.

Hell, I still won't put down my shitty Saleen Exploder. And it's nothing but a parts mule at this point. As long as it has a soul I'll continue fixing it.

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>>16714227
icle

>>16714297
Cherish those vehicles that cannot be driven on the highway, anon. I remember thise exploder in the mud from like 10 /ORG/s back. Which one are you on the map pegs?

Good to see you're still kicking around <33

>>16714115
>>16714136
Literally WHY.

blue land cruiser. i know this is you. CUT IT OUT.

>>16714276
Yum, rust-flavored dex-cool.

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>>16714297
>Saleen Exploder
>post regular explorer

anon that's not a saleen explorer

>>16714326
i hope the po wasn't dumb enough to put that in a dodge.
either way i flushed it 3 times and of course as soon as i put the new coolant it a bunch more shit came up in there.
i guess ill deal with it later

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>>16714323
Added myself, near Buffalo.

>>16714341
Correct, now it's nothing but a shell, But at one point it was a legit XP8.

>>16714367
holy fuck........wha what the fuck happened anon

those saleen expos are pretty rare

>>16714380
So are 1998 fully electric Rangers capable of going 100km on a full charge and topping out at 120km/h.

All recalled after 4 years. I would've loved to buy one and put in a modern EV tech in them.

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>>16713120
100% cruiser. I have a '90s 4runner and the cruiser beats it in nearly every way except manual transmission availability

Pic related, mine (with tent) and my girlfriend's 4runners

>>16714367
>>16714396
so you just turned the explorer into a memecar and sold all the saleen parts?

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Let's play a game /ORG/

>>16714435
Ranger.

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>>16714367
It was a super rotbox, parted it out and made some decent cash.

If I could go back in time i would have saved all the saleen specific bits and bought a nice rust free 4 door and made a clone.

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>>16714367
OH! I go down there once every two or three months. any good trails around the south bend?

Let's oberland.

>>16714459
>all that rust
that picture makes me sad

how did you end up with one anon?

>>16714416
Are you on the map, anon? That looks really comfy.

>>16714416
>rtt

How rich are you nigga?

>>16714416
SAS second gen, hnnnng.

>>16714523
You don't have to be too rich to do shit like that. You just gotta funnel your money into that kinda stuff because you really love it.

Free food on the trails is the other benefit, of course. I like my $30 steaks too much, unfortunately.

>>16714520
Too lazy to put myself on the map haha. Roof tent was the best investment i've made for camping yet.

>>16714523
I was eating noodles for a month straight after I bought the thing. I thought of it as a gift to myself for landing a fully paid apprenticeship. I had to sell a few things to be able to afford it, but it is so worth it. It really hurt knowing i spent almost 4x what i paid for the truck on a tent though lol

>>16714526
The guy that built her truck gets super butthurt whenever anything breaks and i offer to fix it, so i never touch it. It needs some work done and he's not doing it and it's starting to piss me off

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>>16714168
GIVE IT TO MEEEEE

>>16714572
You can probably find a rust-free one in the south for what it would cost in gas to drive it down to you.

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Oh, here's one you guys might like.

I rolled this blue truck a couple years ago and basically took everything drivetrain related and swapped it into the grey truck with the RTT on it a couple posts up, and I've been screwing with that 4runner ever since.

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>>16714585
>don't look to the right
>don't look to the right
>don't look to the right
>don't look to the right
>don't look to the right

fuggggg

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https://vimeo.com/205327336

Was a good weekend

>>16714592
>don't look to the right

I know this feel

>>16714569
Well where are you anon!?

>>16714592
OVERTON WINDOW TO THE LEFT AND I STAY RIGHT.

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>>16714602
BC, Canada. Close to the border

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>>16714604
Oh fucking hell. Baes wants to head down to BC this summer from Onterrible but we might only be able to make it to Calgary due to our work schedules. We'd probably caravan two way or something.

Would love to head over to Colorado and Oregon too from Toronto. Or maybe Alaska... Too bad I'm wagecucked by like two different jobs.

You have a dual battery setup for overlanding? I'm about to put one in on Taynger next in order to deal with this.

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>>16714592
at least your rides dont fall over if you stop

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>>16714600
that video was pretty comfy

>>16714619
Once i get my passport, I'd love to take a few weeks off and travel backroads through washington all the way down to the oregon coast. I hear there's awesome wheeling down there.

4runner engine bay lacks space for dual batteries as i have the 3.0 V6. I'm hoping to have a diesel landcruiser in the next couple years and that will most likely have dual batteries. I'm also planning out an expedition trailer that I'd like to build as well which i would run my auxilliary power out of, but that's far into the future after I acquire said landcruiser. I have an idea in my head of using a toyota rear axle and putting a pulley on the pinion flange up to an alternator that's tucked away to recharge the system, but I'm worried that it'll cause too much drag and get hung up on everything lol

>>16714632
I'm also trying to see if i can make an Eaton M90 supercharger work with my engine as a cool project for my apprenticeship, but I don't think I can adjust my fuel enough without going to a standalone system like megasquirt

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>>16714578
I ALREADY HAVE TWO OF THEM I JUST WANT ANOTHER

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>>16713454

alright guys. do I do 22x10 and 37x12.50, or 22x12 and 37x13.50?

and does anyone here happen to have experience with both the Toyo R/T and the Toyo M/T?

I know my truck is a big flashy attention whore that looks like it belongs in a mall parking lot but I like being able to take it everywhere and I'm wondering if there's a point that I could go "too wide" as far as wheels and tires? it sees 4 seasons of weather, snow, ice, dirt, mud, rain, pretty much everything but sand. I really want to go with the wider setup because I love the look of huge, meaty tires, but will it be detrimental to anything besides fuel economy?

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>>16714664
off road kat is back

hello mr offroad cat

>>16714664
Wider tires wear out your steering faster because you have to turn more contact surface.

Honestly you could even run the 13.5s on the 10'' wheel and be fine too. I run 12.5s on a 8'' wheel as sort of a poor mans beadlock when i air down

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>>16714632
I'd shove mine under my rear wheelwells and run the cables over. If you are selling, I would actually consider buying that 4runner and driving it across BC to Toronto. Keep me in mind if these threads are still alive.

If the 4runner isn't what I'd imagine, I'd probably just end up selling it on the local classifieds. That would even save me money on renting a vehicle, too so it could easily be worth it for me.

There's this electrical engineer I've been talking to about getting a dual battery setup. I gotta sleep now because gotta wake up for s n o w r o l l i n g >>16712693 in 7 hours.

But ask any specific questions and I'll relay him in an email and see what he says.

Night, /ORG/!

>>16714679
Nite, butthole!

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>>16714676
well hello :3

>>16714677
I'm currently running 35x12.50s on 20x9s, so I figure I'd be going one inch wider on both the wheel and the tire, and going two inches taller on both as well so it would essentially be the same. looking at my current setup, I'd like the wheels to be a little less "sunken in" if that makes sense, or I want the sidewall to be a little closer to straight but not quite, so that it still protects the wheel some.

I keep forgetting that American Force offers a 22x11 size as well, pic related is the same amount of lift I'll be installing with a 37x13.50 M/T on a 22x11, but the catch is that all of AF's 22x11 wheels are 0 offset and his are Fuels which I believe are -24 or so which would put them out an inch farther.

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>>16714757
and here is obviously a completely different truck, but a 37x13.50 on a 22x12.

>>16714750
>>16714115
>>16714136
Can someone please explain this butthole meme to me? What is happening?

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>>16714794
i will but you have to post your butthole 1st

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>>16714802
http://imgur.com/gallery/fJM5IzF
this is my hole now show me yours

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what do i need to do to make my blazer off road ready i have a different set of 8 ply Goodyear on it now

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Got a bit inspired by the "don't look to the right" posts. Will drop a few from the Goat.

This is coming back from Yankee Boy Basin. The crazy overhang is visible in the distance.

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More miscellaneous "DLttR!" from the San Juan Mountains in beautiful Ouray, CO!

inb4 Colorado shill

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>>16714865
>ywn hoon down that
what the fuck did they put me on this earth for

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And one of the most beautiful stretch of dirt I know.

More of you want em, but I'll quit my threadjack for now.

>>16714873
>posting offroad pictures
>threadjacking

m8 those are nice pictures

got anymore with your rig?

>>16714851
>>16714865
have you driven 550 south of Ouray? I was skiing red mountain pass about a month ago. I had to do that stretch in an absolute whiteout on the way back. easily the most uncomfortable I've ever been while driving.

>>16714873
>tfw i will never get to drive there

sucks being yuropoor

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>>16714902
did u died?

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>>16714902
Yeah. Only in nice weather, though. Pretty whiteknuckle in "conditions", I'd imagine.

Here's one of the Red Mountains. #3 maybe?

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After 4 months of ownership... It's finally time to get this thing it's WoF, (which is a $50 sticker that lets the police know it's not falling apart)

I have stuck a new radiator, new transmission, high flow thermostat, put the electric fan to a manual switch, done my front inner axle seals, added a snorkel, 2'' lift, relocated a washer bottle... all within my hour lunch breaks at work, except the trans which I took 2 days off and done it on the 2 post hoist. Took me 16 hours to drop a trans out of my donor XJ and chuck it in this one, not bad for an amateur I'm told by our mechanic

And finally it's ready! I look forward to taking some action shots as I beat the shit out of it

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>>16714892
I'm a small timer. Just forest roads and mining trails for me. The Goat doesn't often feature prominently in my pics since it's really about the view.

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>>16714902
>Drive 550 near Red mountain coming back from Ophir Pass (in pic)
>Semi hauling massive boulders wrapped in chicken wire ahead of me
>Semi hauling massive boulders wrapped in chicken wire behind me
>Why the fuck are they hauling rocks over a fucking mountain pass?
>Get to that first fucking hairpin
>Semi in front slowing down
>Semi behind isn't
>Turn right onto the dirt
>By some miracle they don't hit each other.

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>>16714935
oh cool

how are the new seats? max /comfy/?

>>16714932
nice keep us updated anon have you added yourself to our map friend?

that engine bay is looking mighty clean, you better fix that soon :^)

>>16714932
Fuckin nice m80.
Those trucks are real machines, I'd love to own one but around here they're way overpriced.
Explore the shit out of your kiwi island, that's beautiful countryside you've got there.

>>16714935
I'm in CO too, pls give the secret to finding all the cool trails and views.
I've done some stuff here outside of CO springs, but a lot of it is filled with normies trying to force their sedans through shit and getting stuck. It's funny, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

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>>16714957
Yeah thanks m8, I got a friend with a 90s Nissan Patrol SWB that I'm gonna go exploring with

>>16714948
Yep! Just added myself, and going on a mission in a few weeks

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>>16714947
The truckers along those little towns are fukking pure balls. I can't imagine driving a rickety-ass school bus up there.

>>16714957
I got the funtreks guide to CO (and the one for Northern CO). That and traildamage.com

Here's a panorama with wifey... No fast doggo.

Wrangler Duratrac
Bfg Ko2
General grabber at2

Which ones do i get? Mainly looking for snow/ice/rain performance with some offroad. 4runner mainly setup for overland/touring. Stock suspension.

>>16715647
General AT2, cheaper price then the rest with equal performance. I've owned may sets of them, awesome tire.

>>16713360
>I want to cross the Siberian wilderness in a former Soviet army truk.

First of all you will die.
second i'd recommend a Ural or Kamaz truck

>>16708453
look at treadright brand tires

>>16714323
>blue land cruiser. i know this is you
;)
i will admit to some of the buttposting, however not all of it. there is at least one another anon that is pretty dedicated.

memes i will take credit for:
>crying in 2wd
>s n o w r o l l i n g
>buy a samurai you dumb faggot
>starting these threads which are finally self sufficient now and brings a tear to my eye
>probably a few other things that i dont remember
>tfw you put memelord on the map
>tfw no one believed you

>>16714416
im biased but i agree.
that said though a cruiser takes a lot more to keep going than a runner
parts are not cheap either

>>16714465
i feel like this is the first time ive seen your truck in full view
bumper looks good

>>16714794
you have to post it to get into the meme club

>>16714851
>>16714865
>>16714873
beautiful dont stop posting

>>16715647
they are all good tires.
desu you cant really go wrong with a choice from any of the big brands.
tires have become like hand guns. there are a few differences between the major brands but they will all be reliable and perform well.

>>16715741
Thanks senpai. I was leaning towards the Good Duratracs because Cambodian Tire is having a 3 for 4 sale. 215 Cad each tire. Usually its 288 CAD per tire. The General Grabbera AT2 are around 200 Cad/tire and the BFG Ko2 are price around 280/tire.

I know that sponser cuck Clay and the Expedition Overland crew ran General AT2 when they went to Alaska and then when they went to Central America. Now they switched to the AT3 because lol sponser money cannon rig builds.

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>>16715878
kek
ill admit to watching that series and being somewhat envious but clay is such an intolerable faggot he almost completely ruins it

>>16708266

> Flushing your coolant once every 170,000 miles

SHIGGY DIGGY famalito

Rust was probably the only ting holding your rad together. Expect to leak like hell anon. :(

>>16715901
He hypes the drama up too much. Plus I dont like the money cannon builds. I prefer Ronny Dahl he is an honest dude (surprising for an aussie cunt).

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>>16715958
its kind of surreal watching him. everyone else is mostly just fucking off and trying to have a great time, meanwhile he is shitting himself about whatever current "problem" they seem to be going through.

>OH FUCK 3 INCHES OF MUD BREAK OUT THE MAXX TRAXX!!!
>as team leader i...
i mean just fuck off already

love ronnie. andrew st pierre is pretty awesome too

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>>16713060
Doors are an easy fix anon. Just loosen the plates on the tub, align everything where you want it and tighten back down. When I switch from my full to half doors, I have to do that so the close. Otherwise they just smash against the striker.

>>16714841
2nd Gen s10 blazer for the win. In stock form mine can handle light trails easy on some cheap ass hankook highway tires

>>16716056
Expedition overland feels like they are larping some kind of military mission. I watch alot of travel blogs and the best ones are the budget build, barely any planning, fly by the seat of your pants type of travel.

I like it when Ronnie does the modified episodes. The one with the german dudes and the montero or pajero I think. Half the build was with ebay specials and the rest was duct tape.

Andrew I like because he is more touring and less mudding bro out. Cheap and efficient. Proved that you can overland with a stock Isuzu and simple mods like tires and a canopy.

>in b4 1992 eg hatch with simple mods.

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>>16716124
what the fuck did you just say

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>>16716124
i will fucking rek you m8

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>>16716184
>team leader.jpg

>>16716188
>Ex Officio Clothing
Bwahaha come on senpai you are not on safari

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>>16708266
>TFW when i dont have Suburban Snow King

life is suffering

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Good morning. More vistas via Goat, since they seemed well received.

>>16708266
What happened to f/o/rd p/o/werstroke?

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More pretty, Goat-accessible roads. With the legendary fast doggo in slow doggo mode.

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almost done!!

>>16714775

that is fucking retarded. your rims should be 17" max, preferably 15"

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>>16716657
explain what exactly you're doing pls

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>>16716711
He just wants a gay ass mall crawler, nothing that is actually for offroading. 15's or 17's will just be worse as all the sidewall flex will make his shitbox even more unstable.

>>16716727

nah 17" on 37s work fine, 15 too

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>>16714775
GET THIS NIGGER WAGON OUT OF MY THREAD RIGHT NOW

>>16708462
It's a Mitsubishi

>>16716382
The f too shitty pooper doody?

>>16716184
CopperCab?

>>16715878
Where in canada? What size duratracs?

I'd get those if you do a lot of highway / road driving

>>16716985
Deadmonton. 265 65 17. I have stock 4runner with airbags.5100 billys in the front set at .85

>>16717006
Check Duratrac walls. D gives that extra reinforcement for cases like rubbing rocks against mud but some anon told me they had side wall issues a while back so be... careful?

I avoided Crap Tyre because apparently they get specialised tyres made for them at 10-25% pricing discounts compared to general offroad supply stores. It could be because of bulk discounts but no way CT has discounts on 32inch + (since no one would be getting them at that rate) without cutting corners.

Besides, my 32s from the offroad store were $240 each (20 more for the D walls instead of the C walls). And the peace of mind is worth the extra bit.

I will tell you this. Your Bilsteins + duratracs would probably be more comfortable than KO2s and especially Coopers.

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can I drive off-road with an AWD Honda?

>>16717308
If you're doing fire roads and relatively flat trails, yes. If you're doing anything that requires any amount of wheel travel, no

>>16717323
I've done fireroads and some logging paths in a fucking front wheel drive minivan.

>>16717308
Anon the issue is when you come to a rut and you have front / back differential freespin. That'll be the hardest part. So essentially... don't get stuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdOoB_fPMNE&feature=youtu.be&t=181

>>16717308
yes
take it to rubicon trail
it'll perform flawlessly

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>>16715809
>You will die
Google BAM road. I concede if I was blazing a new trail Lewis and Clark style I'd be a goner but if there's already a trail to follow and I do it in summer I think I may stand a chance

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>>16717686
Looks like someone didn't tune their diesel right...

>>16717156
Thanks br/o/. I will go for the duaratracs. I will miss the sale price though because my boss just called and I need to stay on this rig for another 11 days.

>tfw working for 36 days straigh
>dumping money into a 4runner I never get to drive
>few more years if this oilfag life and I can take my girl overlanding from alaska to southr america and beyond.

>>16717749
>Vitim Bridge

If that doesnt grow hair on your balls, i dont know what will.

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>stay home
>be sick
>didn't get to offroad
0/10 my mans

>>16718012
Like I told you. Maybe don't buy them from Canadian Tyre. Especially if they're C-walled.

Come over to Onterrible senpai. You can use that derrick money to buy our cheap everything here.
>mcdonald's pays $11.50 an hour here instead of $20 an hour like in edmonton
amazing.

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>>16716657
>>16716727

yeah my lift spindles won't even clear 17s, otherwise I'd have Raptor beadlocks already

>>16716726
I was in an accident on December 7th and it's been at the body shop since then, I'm just excited to finally have it back soon.

>>16718053
I am originally from toronto. Left because i didnt want to be a wage cuck. I like alberta. Its fun if you are /org/ , /k/ and /out/. But fuck I sold my soul to the oil jew.

At least my timing belt and water pump kit arrived from rock auto today. My girl is picking it up and it will collect dust for the next 11 days while I grind out this last part of my hitch.

>also fuck that turbo dyke wynn. Crooked as fucj.

>>16718074
Yeah I know like two or three different people who took their welding or heavy machinery jobs over to Cold Lake. Never spoke to them again, lmao.

I get to drive around onterrible getting paid to drop shit off to farmers so I self-wage-cucc. Fun times. When you come back, I'll take you on a few of the trails here. They have a place out in Kingston where you can rent an offroader for a day for like $120 so we can have le funs if you're ever down visiting family.

>dyke wynne
>orveille redenbacher
hehe good times. my electical bill for my laboratory has like tripled now which is fucking annoying. also seeing her sit in the back of the mosque was funny

How's the NDP there? (;

>>16718053
>$12 minimum wage
>thinking "what the fuck"
>read next line:
>$20 for working at MCDONALD'S
is this actually a thing? I work at a mechanics after a 4 year apprenticeship and only make $18.50 an hour where you fucking leafs are paying people $20 to flip burgers!!

>>16718283
maybe that's because Canada isn't a total shithole that thrives off of the debt and misery of its citizens?

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>>16718024
The Vitim bridge is good and all, but that's not where you need to worry. Vitim is a steel bridge after all, so it should be good as long as it's crossed in summer. Most bridges along the route are wooden and in the same shape as pic related. There's where you need to worry...

>>16718283
m8 don't worry 20 canacuck buxs is worth like $3 real dollars

>>16718413
No what the fuck dude even with conversion that's 15 an hour for united states for working at mcdonald's. three times the mcdonald's wage in my state.

>>16718192
NDP are cucks. But we are all fucked. Oil is picking up but no one wants to work because wages are still low.

You can make 15 maple bucks here working at boston pizza.

>>16716087
Yeah, I just have to weld in the new windshield mount areas first. Otherwise it's no use mounting the doors to the hinge that's only connected via the windshield being loosely bolted in place.

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Jeep bruh
Looking to upgrade my shocks for a softer ride. I have a Mopar 2.5" lift. The ride is extremely stiff.

>>16717686
Trash.

>>16718607
Get a set of Rancho 9000s and leave them dialed all the way down. If that doesn't work, then it's probably just because the damned thing is lifted.

>>16718447
they're actually not as left as the fucking libcucks. I actually did some canvassing for the NDP in rural areas a while back but voted libtertarian in the federl erection because all our options were shit.
Whatever >>>/pol/ /rant

>>16718670
This. or you can see if you can fit in a set of kings somewhere. otherwise, lifted is hard to make it softer.
One way to make it feel softer is to drive an old YJ, Samurai, or first gen Taco for a week. Then go back to your rubie and see the YUGE difference.

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Hey ORG, opinions on 73-91 K5 Blazers? I'm not big into off-roading with the exception of hunting season so it will be mostly stock with the exception of tires.

>>16718809
Too large for technical trails. But since you're not going technical then as far as owning the vehicle:
Gas guzzlers, prone to rust, almost all of them are very rusty, unsafe at speeds above 70kmph.

Have you tried a Jeep or Toyota of the same year?

>>16718835
Considered, but I really like squarebodies. Possible alternatives are Broncos of same era or even Scouts if rust isn't awful. The extent of off-roading would be fire roads and muddy trails in hilly terrain

>>16718855
Broncos, K5s, Ramchargers and IH Scouts all suffer from the points I listed above.

But damn are they comfy.

>s l o w r o l l i n g
>with the top of the back of a bronco
>with a cold sixer bought a cashed in lotto
>she smiles with her hair blowing out the window
>where're you about to go?

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>>16718835
>almost all of them are very rusty, unsafe at speeds above 70kmph.
>Have you tried a Jeep or Toyota of the same year?
This nigger can't be serious.

>Too large for technical trails
This is bullshit people that don't actually wheel say to talk you out of a vehicle they don't like.

>>16718911
I like that third seat back there. This looks like a really damn comfortable ride. That back winch... Mmmm.

>almost all of them are very rusty, unsafe at speeds above 70kmph.
>Have you tried a Jeep or Toyota of the same year?
I never stated that Jeeps and Toyotas aren't rusty or unsafe at high speeds. I simply mentioned them to help him broaden his search parameters and include similar options.

Too large meaning too wide. Sorry.

>>16718889
Thanks for the insight, but I think I'm set on the K5. Just trying to justify it I guess. Ideally a two tone 73-80 for the round headlights is what I'm going for, gotta start checking CL on the daily as they go pretty fast

>>16718928
>Too large meaning too wide.
Most guys running technical trails are running the same track width. You know that, right?
You're more likely to bang up a corner in a tight turn but it's not going to prevent you from running the trail.

>>16718945
It's actually annoying waiting for or being in a vehicle that needs to do a 12 point turn to get around a tree or rock on a trail

But whatever. Since this anon isn't doing technical trails, I was telling him about the common things said about the Bronco / K5s and why he doesn't need to worry about them.

>>16718993
>It's actually annoying waiting for or being in a vehicle that needs to do a 12 point turn to get around a tree or rock on a trail
Just for shits and giggles. If the Blazer has to do a 12 point turn, what are you driving and how many points is your turn?

>>16718993
>he doesn't enjoy seeing the capabilities of another truck and watching a new driver learn to wheel

>>16719008
being in

>>16718993
As I said before, all my off-roading will be at worst washed out dirt roads, nothing technical. Posted this in off-road general because you guys could answer my questions better than autists with miatas lol

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How do you fellas feel aboot light bars? Thinking of installing one on the Goat. Probably a rectangular one (as opposed to standard long bar). Mount above front bumper? Roof? Hood?

Advantages to location or type? Install concerns (not a fan of wiring/electrical stuff)?

Pic for reference

>>16714664
>22

You should instead literally kill yourself for being a brodozer faggot.

>>16719040
I've always hated LED lights. I've found that their light is less illumination as it is just plain bright. I'm sure there's a technical term, maybe a difference in candelas and lumens?
As in, their light illuminates, but it doesn't really help see anything.