So I am looking into doing my own maintenance and repair work

>>16685381
A big orange deadblow hammer

>>16685381
all of them

>>16685381
Depends on what work you're willing to take on.
Are you just doing oil changes and cleaning your air filters, or do you want to fix your transmission as well?

>>16685436
That is a good question, I am thinking more along of basic maintenance tasks such as oil changes, but some other tools to do basic repairs if needed.

>>16685420
If only I had all of the money.

>>16685512
a ratchet set, a screwdriver set, and some funnels will do most maintenance.
Channel locks are a bonus too, but don't use them on bolts or nuts. It'll strip them.

>>16685381
First off- most importantly:
Ratchet set. Get a 3/8 inch drive with regular sockets and a 1/2 inch drive with deep sockets.
If you own a Eurofag mobile, get a torx bit set- lord knows why they use that crap.
Next, get open ended wrenches and adjustable vise grip.
And last but certainly not the least: a Floor jack, breaker bar, and foot/pound torque wrench. You should be good for general repair with all those.
When the going gets tough, you can also make good use of a 32 ounce rubber mallet

>>16685522
Good point- Dont learn the hard way, OP. never use channel locks/ vise grips on nuts and bolts. Youll almost always strip or damage them

>>16685381
wrenches, ratchets/sockets, screwdrivers, allen keys, pliers, knife, hammer/mallet

everything else buy it along the way as you find you need it

Ratchet and socket wrench
You will only need 8mm to 21mm
Spark plug socket
Breaker bar
8m wrench
10mm wrench
12mm wrench

Jack and 2 jackstands

Bucket like a homedepot bucket
Oil filter wrench
Long thick flathead
Tiny flathead
Screw driver
Pliers pliers pliers pliers
And plenty of plastic gloves boyy

>>16685627
22mm comes in handy if you have a toyota

>>16685381
>6 inch breaker bar
For what purpose

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>>16685436
>Cleaning air filters

>set of metric and sae wrenches
>socket set of metric and sae
>good ratchet
>adapters
>Jack stands
>oil pan
>magnetic dish
>pliers
>funnel
>lake ditch or pond to dispose of oils and liquids
>Breaker bar
>Haynes manual on your car
>Screw driver set
>spark plug puller
>rubber mallet
>torque wrench

You will end up buying more specific shit like feeler gauges and torx bits later on too

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>>16685701
>paying the paper filter jew

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>>16685381
>universal socket joint
Absolutely one of these, could save you a whole afternoon from dismantling something to get at one bolt cause angle. Can buy a cheap $5 set from China.

If richer you can get a flex head ratchet.

>>16685981
this
Especially for bolts in fucked off angles.

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NOT OP. But I'm a 19 y/o hoonigan spic that's tired of relying on untrustworthy "friends" to help borrow their tools and/or getting jewed in the ass by the illegal mechanics. Can anyone on /o/ advice me towards the best tool box to buy? Keep in mind I want to have enough tools to do the most basic tune-ups thru US, Jap, and Yuro cars. And also good enough tools to fiddle around suspension parts. Basically I don't want to be having to look for anyone. Just buy a box that comes with ALOT of useful tools and will help fix the job 90% of the time with no hassle. Also price doesn't matter fellas and pic is definitely related. What I'm currently driving

>>16685564
When was the last time you stripped a torx head?

> inb4 never

>>16686864
Sounds like you haven't removed seatbelts or seats from a modern car. Torx are easy to round off, and Torx Plus doesn't help much when most of the manufacturers feel they need to use red loctite on seatbelt anchors.

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OBD II scanner

>>16686837
>Can anyone on /o/ advice me towards the best tool box to buy?
Do you mean something to put your tools in or a complete set of ratchets? Plus, I thought all "spics" knew where Home Depot was?

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>>16686837

You really should deport yourself, America is for the white man, not the brown man.

I'm sure you can find plenty of good quality Mexican made tools!

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>>16688003
I have some Urrea wrenches from mexico. they're nice.

>>16686837
Craftsman mechanic set. Comes in a plastic red tool box that includes 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2. It also includes sparkplug sockets and everything you will need for your first couple jobs.

6 point set with 200+ pieces. Goes on sale for less than $200 like $150 or something

>>16688076

t. juan pablo rodriguez del mar y del fiero

>>16685627
I've run into plenty of 6 and 7mm bolts on American cars. And CV axles are a maintenance item, so you could need up to a 40mm.

>>16685688
Because the ratchet is so shitty you don't want to apply more than 10 ft lbs with it.

>>16685981
Seconding this, had to get one for my spark plugs

>>16688899
This, there's also a craftsman set that has a full set of Metric and Imperial wrenches and ratchets that goes on sale for less than $100 which is a good starting point, and then just pick up individual tools as you come across them.

>>16688929
The 40mm is something you buy when you need it.
But I agree he missed some obvious stuff. Like no 13mm or 15mm wrench.

OP should completely ignore those 200 piece kit crap. Usually about 130 of the pieces are hex head, screwdriver and torx bits. Just buy a decent set of each.

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>>16686879
> Torx are easy to round off
Nigger you're using the wrong size. Torx must fit very very snug with no play whatsoever. If there is even a tiny bit of play you are using the wrong size.
I work at a shop, and never ever once stripped a torx, and I use power tools.

>Daily carry
3/8 socket set + ratchet
1/4 socket set with convertor for use with 3/8 ratchet
2 tonne trolley jack (floor jack in US?)
3ft bar with 17, 19 and 21mm sockets (for wheel nuts)
Tow rope rated for 3 tonnes
Jumper leads rated at 300amps
Screwdriver set (6 flat, 6 cross)
Mini air compressor with convertors for all kinds of tyres
Small pack of cable ties
>In my garage at home
Full size compressor with air ratchet
Impact sockets for above
5ft bar
1/2 socket set and ratchet
3/8 socket set and ratchet
1/4 socket set and ratchet
More screwdrivers, not really a set just a stack of them, maybe 20 in total
LOTS of cable ties
Hammers ranging from little tappers to a 20lb dead blow
Hatchet for disagreeable cars
Electric saw
Jigsaw with strong blades
Assorted shit I'm probably forgetting

>>16686864
Try working on a Peugeot
>Torx screws made from soft aluminium
>Round every single one trying to remove valve cover
>End up hammering in a size larger and rolling like that
>Replace with hex bolts when I put it back together

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>>16689654
>you're using the wrong size
No, I'm not, and I always break seatbolt anchors and seat bolts by hand, sometimes using an inductive heater first if it looks like it's going to be a problem. I know GM uses the same shitty loctited torx too, sounds like you just haven't had much experience doing those jobs.

>>16689654
I agree with this dude. Never stripped a Torx.
Unlike a hex, a Torx that is too small will still fit and turn the bolt, so it may seem like it's the right size.

>>16689762
Man, you sure love showing off that one single drawer of tools in the cheapest cart matco makes. Looks like an oil change boy's tool kit. And you still should have gotten the Pittsburgh pro version of that ratchet, which is exactly the same in every way, including the guts.

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>>16689762
Except I remove Torx bolts more than I remove any other bolt. If it starts stripping it means I'm using the wrong size. And yes I remove seatbelt bolts all the damn time in GM, Toyotas. Chrysler, all of them pretty much. I'll say it again, you're using the wrong size.

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>>16689671
Not that anyone gives a shit really, but I feel like explaining. In the US a trolley jack is the little one on wheels, it's narrow and has a lifting cup about 1.5 -2" diameter. A floor jack is similar but much wider, heavier, and stronger, with a 3.5"+ lifting cup.

Pic unrelated is a large portion of my tools.

>>16690233
You must have some well equipped oil change boys at your shop

>>16690274
You caught me, even though I've wrenched for over 10 years, many of those on the highest end cars made, I don't know how to find the right size Torx, neither does anyone I work with who also blow up seat bolts time to time. Why would you be removing seats anyway if you are a body guy? Anchors for pretensioners I can see but that probably isn't that common.

>>16690396
Don't know what garbage heap you're from, but even here in KY the couple socket sets, wheel savers, standard ratchets, few extensions, and couple odds and ends here and there that you post every chance you get, are standard for oil and tire flippers.

>>16690416
Comforting to know if by some horrible series of events I end up in Kentucky and forget how to wrench I'll at least have a fallback job I'm already equipped for

>>16690460
Stop pretending to be a technician with that pitiful tool collection. Unless you're implying that's not all you have, if so post the rest. Faggot.

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>>16690396
When there is severe body damage (especially rear end body damage) we usually have to cut out the rear end of the car (as in the entire rear shell) and most car manufacturers sell the rear end shell all the way to the seats so we must remove the seats, all upholstery, and weld in the new body panel, and re-install everything we had to take off. Same with rockers, in order to weld on a new one you have to remove all the shit that's in the way first. Some manufacturers only have the entire side of the cars available (as in rocker, A pillar, B pillar, etc. Pic related) they send the entire piece only so you have to cut and weld it on, which involves removing seat belts, seats, upholstery, trim etc. The camry i posted earlier fortunately they could sent just the rocker itself, without having to send the entire pic related.

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>>16685381
>What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?

Sturdy jack stands. Remember that stands are rated in pairs.

>>16686837

Agree with this guy

>>16688899

for the starter kit. If you're looking for a box, get the Craftsman bottom/top combo. Feel free to add the middle chest if you're made of money. It's the one with the split drawers on top, so you end up with 3 small drawers on the top. Goes on sale around christmas for under $500 IIRC. Good box for a basic tool kit.

Once you start getting into specialty work and find yourself needing slide hammers, cam bearing drivers, bushing drivers, spring compressors, that stupid special tool for compressing calipers with a built in parking brake, and start having a desire for power tools, you'll need another box. Get the craftsman box again. Don't buy the 10 foot long behemoth that weighs a million pounds. Have one box for normal shit, one box for specialty, expand as needed. Easier to move if you need to, easier to store, just as much space.

Also, unless you work in an actual shop, ignore air tools. 120v is a lot easier to find and considerably cheaper than an air compressor that'll run a chunky impact without trouble. Same goes for sanders, drills, hammers, pretty much everything. If it's normally run on air in a real shop, there'll be an equally good or better version for the same or less money that runs on electricity. Cordless tools allow you do go junkyard diving much more efficiently too.

>>16685981
Spark plugs make something like this necessary in all the modern cars. You'll never have room to turn a wrench without these and an extender.

>>16690323
Cool, in the UK we call them both trolley jacks. It's the former kind I keep in my car. I also have 2 more in the garage since I have a pit and don't really need to jack up a car most of the time

>>16690472
Even that drawer is more than I need socketwise. The upper drawers are full of backprobes, leads, breakout and test harnesses I've made. I can see why you would think the most experienced techs should have huge boxes if you work at a big brand, but at smaller high end brands all the specialty/diagnostic tools belong to the shop. I could realistically work out of a single drawer cart if I had to.

>>16690472
>I work on cars. I am a master mechanic.
Try working in a theme park buddy. Man, people who judge a mans skill based on there tools are fucking annoying.

>>16690520
I really do just enjoy giving you a hard time. But for the better part of twenty years I worked in a do fucking everything shop. Got a small car? I don't give a fuck who makes it, we'll fix it. Semi? Sure. RV? Not a problem. So my tool collection was much larger, obviously. If that's all you need because you specialise, I get that and you know what you need. I on the other hand realised that working on cars was a fruitless endeavor, and that I wanted to be able to stand up straight and hold a wrench when I'm fifty. So I took a pay cut and got a decent job in the field, and I'll end up much better off physically and financially in the end.

>>16690570
Post Master cert, then kys.

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>>16690604
Bet you are a great Postmaster

>>16688899 >>16689557 >>16690501
>Craftsman mechanic set.

Craftsman brand was sold Jan2017 to Stanley Black&Decker since Sears needed money to stave off bankruptcy. Sears is also selling DieHard and Kenmore brands. Craftsman is a shadow of what it used to be. In the old days, there were even Craftsman home building kits. The parts would come numbered and many people built their own Craftsman branded houses as they were sold through both Sears and Montgomery Wards.

http://kuow.org/post/story-behind-seattles-obsession-craftsman-homes

For people daunted by such a task, resellers would sellthrough the Craftsman home building kits and provide additional carpentry and building expertise with the kits as mentioned in the website article above.

>>16690698
FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>16686879
Have you tried out the inverted torx bits? They're worse. Stripped 3 trying to remove my fuel rail

In addition, buy 2 of each socket size. You'll never know when you're gonna have a bolt and nut that break free and start turning. Alternatively, a combination may work too depending on clearance.
Don't invest in an oil filter wrench unless you use it to get an extra angle. Never use it to torque down your oil filter.

Most importantly, a torque wrench

>>16690952
Haven't had any problems with E torx but the cars I've worked on lately don't use many, only for recessed areas where a larger socket wouldn't fit and they need a bit more fastening strength than a 10mm head bolt would allow

>>16691096
Could have at least given me a "haha, good rib, man." But I suppose if you were an adult and reasonable you wouldn't be desperate enough to be a tripfag loser.

>>16691523
Sorry, thought you wrapped it up nicely, will make sure to publicly upvote you next time

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>>16685512
Go to costco, buy their 159pc car toolkit, is good enough for belts, oil, basic under the hood stuff. it is 80 bucks and I just buy the shit I need for specific jobs as I need it.

>>16691542
I know you're being a faggot on purpose, but before you put a trip on, comradery is what built the good boards like this and diy.

>>16689654
Torx is easy to round off. Sorry bud. You probably haven't done enough car work or worked on hard enough parts.

It is especially apparent when you work on tiny sizes. The bits or screws might have e different tolerances in sizes that cause it to sleep. Or try separating a t-50 ish for a motorcycle subframe. Those bitches are torqued tight and you need to be extra careful to not strip.

>>16691676
I recently tore down a 79 cb750 that was factory untouched but rusty. Didn't even damage a single bolt.

>>16690698
Craftsman did get sold, but you can still buy old merchandise from Sears or craftsman.com it may not have the lifetime warranty, but bang for buck it probably comes out cheaper and better than harbor freight.

The only good China freight stuff are the Pittsburgh pro line. And then the pro line is not sold in kits just individually and will end up costing more than craftsman.

If you are breaking sockets, you are probably using them wrong. And if you get cheap regular Pittsburgh items, they have crappy tolerances and are more likely to break. And have fun driving to your nearest harbor freight to use the warranty when your socket breaks halfway through a brake job.

The next best option after craftsman and Pittsburgh PRO****** will be Husky at your local Holmes depot which I believe also carries a lifetime warranty and the stores are everywhere.

Next runner up is gearwrench. Great tools, but a bit higher up price wise. Good teeth count on the ratchets though.

And if you have money to throw away, get snap on. Snap on is good and should be bought cheap off Craigslist if you see good deals for breaker bars. But not really worth the money when gearwrench is just as good.

Channel lock is good if you love America. They still make items in the USA, but are $$$$ and not much better than any typical husky, craftsman, etc.

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>>16691737
well said. i broke this 19mm trying to take off my tire. why do tire shops insist on putting them on with impacts? when my IR231c fails to do anything on ANY of them when i let it beat for at least a min on each one, its fucking too tight.

>>16690396
It wouldn't be surprising. Your a dumb ass nigger who can't even figure out vette suspension.

what are good brands of air tools?
i have a CP air ratchet and die grinder.
i have a cordless impact so i dont need one.
what is top tier of air tools?

Dewalt is the best of the amateur tier sets.
Dat laser etching. Noticeably heftier than the Pittsburgh Pro stuff.
>>16691737
Pretty sure Channel lock stuff is made in Taiwan and has been for years. I'm also pretty sure the difference between Pittsburgh and their Pro line is mainland vs taiwan.

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>>16691818
Snapon, or whoever makes theirs, are very powerful for their size. CPs are pretty good though. I've used much worse.


Related question: what's everyone's preferred 4.5" grinder?

>>16691860
my 4.5 is a black and decker. works fine, good power. a thousand times better than harbor freight ones. obviously its not metabo, but i dont use it much.

>>16691839
Channel locks has a new line called code blue that is made in the USA. Also, some of their regular wrenches are made in the USA too, but you need to look around.

Yes, Pittsburg pro line is made in Taiwan vs China, but it is made with a different metal than is more forgiving and doesn't break as easy.

It is also more heavy duty stuff such as impact sockets which is the only stuff I would get.

>>16691860
Metabo

>>16691875
Cool. We've got a HF one at work. Decent power but the switch sucks a dick.
For as much shit as I cut up with it I should get a nice one.

>>16691888
Will look into that.

>>16691898
why would you cut with a grinder? that smells so horrible. use a saw.

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>>16691917
It's gross, but very fast and agile.
It works really well for cutting up crashed cars to repair them.

>>16691969
wat car iz dis?

>>16691983
Looks like a Lamborghini. I can tell 100% by the wheels.

>>16691983
I would bet a Fiero.
People love to kit that piece of shit.

>>16685714
>Lake, ditch, or pond
Literal kek

>>16685381
Go to a estate sale and buy all the tools you can find.
Better over prepared than under prepared.

>>16692347
just dump it under your neighbors car

>>16685714
>doesn't know that walmart and other places will take that shit for free.

>>16692558
>being a hippy faggot

>>16691768
I hope you know that the 231 line is Chinese made garbage. It's notorious for being weak and unable to overtorque anything. That's why pretty much every tire shop around today provides them.

>>16692596
>wanting to live in New Jersey

Ignore what everyone else said because it's retarded. Here is the GOAT piece of advice regarding tools:

1. Invest in a quality set of ratchets (you want at least one full size half inch one and a smaller 3/8th inch for working in tighter spots) and a quality set of 6 point sockets. you want 6 point because they grip better and lessen the chance of you accidentally stripping something.

2. Invest in a quality set of t-handle allen hex keys/sets and a smaller sized set for working in tight spaces

3. get a torque wrench that goes up to at least 150 ft/lb

4. get a quality set of COBALT drill bits. This is the one thing I wish someone made clear to me at the very beginning that COBALT is the only type of drill bit you should get. I wasted so much money on meme drill bits at Home Depot without knowing that pretty much everything except cobalt is complete shit and will fall apart the minute it touches anything other than aluminum

5. Don't get an impact gun. You don't need it. If you're just starting out, it's going to do more harm than good. It's better to work with your hands and get a feel for the torque. A noobie with an impact gun is just going to do something stupid like take 800 lb/ft of torque to a 14mm brake caliper nut and shear it into a perfect circle. seriously, don't get one. get a regular power drill if you want one.

This will more or less get your foot in the door. There are a million other things you'll eventually need to buy but get those on a project-to-project basis. Some examples include regular pliers, needle nose pliers, a C-clip plier, locking pliers, spark plug socket head, rubber hammer, torx bits (why the fuck do these even exist), etc...

Obviously you will need a jack, jack stands, oil pan, funnel, etc....

>>16693821
>projecting

Not everyone is a complete fucking retard like you. Some of us knew how to use an impact from the first time using it, without fucking shit up. That would those of us that had fathers, who aren't sissy cuckolds.

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>>16693821
i think i spent too much
CP 830 air ratchet (3/8)
Elora 1/2
Stalwille 1/4
Wera 3/8

and i have a 1/4 torque wrench, its a bendy bar
a 3/8 clicker which has fresh calibration
and a 1/2 bendy bar one

i think i spent over $500 in ratchets...

>>16693821
wise anon

A metric crescent wrench.
Phillips 2 screwdriver.

>>16691768
Some of the chinese tools that say they are forged are actually just cast. I remember a chinese hammer breaking the 2nd day of use. Looking at the edge of the broken chipped head, it looked like it was cheap cast steel with very crystalline grain. More like pig iron than steel.

To them, I bet forged is a light weight single pounding with a weight just to justify that there was some forging strike.

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>>16694173
>metric adjustable wrench

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>>16690323
Well.... What is it?

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ask someone who just spent $70 on a socket anything

>>16696226

The entire set of those costs like $35 at Harbor Freight.

I guess I'm supposed to ask a question, so why are you bragging about getting a really bad deal?

>>16696254
>Harbor Freight

lol

>>16696262
You could get the whole rainbow from Amazon too
https://www.amazon.com/Grey-Pneumatic-1511TP-Wheel-Protector/dp/B000FBBNPK

>>16696226
Why the hell would you do that? That socket has no advantage over cheaper alternatives.

>>16685590
Best advice

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>>16696226
SHOULD OF LISTENED TO SCOTTY
RETARDED LUGNUTS

>>16696262
$19.99 full set from vatozone, lifetime warranty.

>>16692347
>>16692389
>>16685714
Just put the oil in its own container (milk jug or used oil container) and take it to the auto store lke autozone or o'reilly. Call ahead to make sure their container isn't full or is being serviced.

>>16685564
>And last but certainly not the least: a Floor jack
don't forget J A C K S T A N D S

A gas chamber

>>16696199
ATF+4 that I use as cutting oil.

>>16685381

How do you carry your tools, /o/?

>>16685381
>What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?
You haven't listed the types of maintenance you'll be doing. Are you going to be doing up to head gasket level maint?

And let's say you will be doing head gasket level. That still has a large variance in tools because some new engines make you take apart a lot of other things just to clear the top of the engine. So mentioning the car you will be working on matters.

>>16688076
Thank you, its been a few years. I'm sure the Moonman nightmares will return tonight. You fucking burger jew.

>>16704099
The Moon never sets

>>16701683
Some surplus US military bag that looks like this.

http://mocityman.com/us-military-small-green-tool-bag-for-hmmwv-mrap-truck-11-x-6-x-6-new/

Then I use small zippered bags to hold 1/4 inch sockets, 3/8th sockets. Like the ones you used in middle school to hold your pencils.

I kind of want to get a little craftsman toolbox and a cart though as it can get heavy when I go to the junkyard.

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>>16685381
Socket set, kitchen funnels, hammer, adjustable wrench, mobile phone.

Wheel chocks, creeper, lights.

>>16692558
>2017
>not flushing used oil down the toilet
>don't have to leave my flat
Try again m8

>>16701683
>How do you carry your tools, /o/?
Several carry-on type toolbags. I don't like hard-sided metal toolchests inside the trunk. A hard toolchest might slide around and dent something up.

>>16701683
I bought some canvas and made a canvas wrap. Takes up less space than a toolbox, carries around the bare essentials, and doesn't rattle around in the trunk.

10mm socket

>>16685714
this, except pour you oil into post hole for best post holes evar

>>16686954
and this, but instead,
torque pro and an obd II dongle
>have both, use dongle more

>>16709523
this x10000

>>16692596
>being this edgy

>>16699338
And if it is just leave that shit at the door

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any of you fags use an electric wrench so you can easily remove bolts without spending all day wrenching? i thought i saw a few of you using snap on ones but i dont know the good one to buy

>>16709843
>Not returning what once came from the ground back to mother nature

>>16686837
Why did you feel the need to call yourself a spic

>>16710431
>Not returning what once came from the ground back to mother nature
Your attitude is too similar to excuses made by those who litter poop into people's yards or piss on sidewalks, fences, and buildings as they walk by them.

Yesterday, in the public library, someone simply took a piss and it all soaked into one of the sofa style seats. The person that did it was a teenage homeless. I prefer people to return to mother nature in a proper toilet bowl.

>>16690472
>Unless you're implying that's not all you have, if so post the rest.
Not that guy, but at my local dealership, a lot of the tools are computer stations, portable diagnostic devices, or lots of metal "arms" and "rod like" things that hook onto a frame used to hold a dash stable as it's removed or re-installed. It seems that modern cars need a lot of specialized gear only a dealership service center would have.

>>16710370
yes i have a dewalt electric impact its breddy gud

i gave up

it seems like no matter what job I do

I'm always one tool short of being able to actually complete the job.

and then if it fucks up, or if I fuck up, I have to do it all over again.

I'm better off taking my shit to a mechanic, who already has every tool that could ever be needed, and having the peace of mind that it's done right, and not by an amateur.

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>>16685381
i bought a really good tool kit from costco a few months ago, its got nearly everything i've needed in replacing various parts on a few different cars and doing oil changes.

https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-159-piece-Mechanics-Tool-Set.product.100145342.html

>>16691566
i see someone beat me to it

tangentially on topic
would it be a good idea to find copies of your car's repair manual or do they not help the inexperienced much?

>>16710370
I do, use it quite a lot. I have a Milwaukee, which is ok, the 1/4 drive is just the 3/8 drive one with a different head so it's still super powerful, have to be careful not to ride stuff all the way down. The Snap On one is a bit better than the Milwaukee but not enough to justify the price. The Matcos I don't like, they are really slow.

>>16685381
>What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?

Mechanical aptitude. Perserverence. Without those, everything else are meaningless.

>>16710370
I have a 1/4 inch air ratchet that can get just about anywhere an electric can while providing more torque. If you've got a compressor that can deliver at least 2 SCFM air tools are worth looking into.

>>16685714
>lake ditch or pond


Nigga just pour it in 1 gallon water containers and put it in the dumpster or pour it in the woods

>>16711397
I'd say yes. If nothing else, you can get reliable torque specs from it.

>>16711277

>I'm better off taking my shit to a mechanic, who already has every tool that could ever be needed, and having the peace of mind that it's done right, and not by an amateur.

Experience has proven to me by now that if you want a job done right, do it yourself. "Professional" mechanics are all about getting the job done as quickly as possible and quality does suffer.

>>16711277
>done right
I started doing my own work because it saved time vs. constantly taking the car back to the shops after they fuck up.

>>16711754
>ruin my water jugs with motor oil
No I drink from them.

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Any good books (pdfs I can download) for a complete noob who's only ever changed wiper blades/snow tires and knows nothing about cars.

Want to try basic maintenance on family vehicles and fix up our 2002 civic that has almost every warning light on the dash on

>>16713834
>Any good books
The only books you need are the service manual or a repair guide. A tablet would be better since almost every repair for a common car model is on you tube.

>>16685714
>lake ditch or pond to dispose of oils and liquids
Just dump the oil back in the oil bottle, ducktape the cap and put it in the trashcan.

>>16711229
Good idea actually, my local library is closer than my nearest waterhole, I'll just dump it on the sofa next time I walk by.

>>16714026
Lots of libraries subscribe to either Chilton or Haynes. So they might have those auto books for your older car.

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>>16713834
dude just watch all 633 of scotty killmers video

you can do anything you want after that

>>16714026
>I'll just dump it on the sofa next time I walk by.
But you're not one of those bitter homeless using a passive aggressive method like pissing to get back at society.

>>16714878
REV
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>>16717880
UP
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>>16718325
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>>16718573
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>>16685420
As a mechanic, I can't agree more with you sir.

>>16713834
>Want to try basic maintenance on family vehicles and fix up our 2002 civic
Should be Chilton or Haynes repair guide for that car. Check with your local library to see if they have any auto repair manuals or subscribe to Haynes or Chilton or Alldata (the best one).

My local library subscribes to Chilton, so it is a good source of Chilton repair guides provided that it is an older car. I wish they'd subscribe to Alldata instead but the Autozone corporation (owner of alldata) probably wants too much money.

>>16685714
i can confirm this whole tool buying thing.
fuck torx sockets

>>16685381
Just buy what you need as you go and watch your horizon expand!

>>16685381
buy craftsman 188 piece set some pilers and screw drivers few other basics and then you buy as you need

>>16685381
>So I am looking into doing my own maintenance and repair work on my car so I will no longer fall victim to the mechanic jew. What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?

What level are you at right now?
Level 0: Checking oil and air pressure regularly and filling it with your own air pump? Replacing air filter at proper time intervals.
Level 1: Washing, Vacuuming, and Waxing your car regularly?
Level 2: Inspecting your car regularly for leaks or other problems? This can be done without ramps by putting your phone on a selfie stick and taking pictures or video underneath.
Level 3: Changing your oil and filter.

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>>16685981
These are ok but flop around like a limp penis
if you can find an impact socket u-joint they do the same shit and are much less frustrating

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what the fuck is all this in this thread.

What you need is some basic shit, and a neighbor who has all the tools and knowledge for bigger shit.

>>16693821
#5 is true and a good point (except for lugnuts *if you have steel wheels*)
a key to becoming good mechanically is feeling when bolt is tight. You can feel the head of the bolt pull tight against the threads and tension up and stretch slightly. its almost erotic if you think about it too much. senpai.

>>16720161
and buy other shit as you find you need it.

also a set of wrenches duh

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>>16720161
While I agree to start at the basics, I consider a torque wrench a necessity. Guessing tension when tightening a bolt is never a good idea. There are some things that require finger tight, and there are applications where 200 ftlbs is needed.

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>>16711277
Listen anon. Dont stop wrenching over something as simple as a missing tool or a basic error. We all make mistakes. If I could count how many times I've tasted 12Vdc, I would.
Wrenching is all about trial and error.
The tools you need will take you numerous years to get. Don't let that discourage you.

Go ahead don't be upset when a gasket blows and you don't have the head to fix it

>>16719910
>Just buy what you need as you go and watch your horizon expand!
But if the car slides backwards because the chocks and parking brake weren't set properly, his horizon will go flat.

>>16714878
THIS BASED MEME MECHANIC

>>16686837
>Can anyone on /o/ advice me towards the best tool box to buy?

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/all-toolbox/all-toolboxes-by-style/all-toolbox-sets/56-tool-vault-21-drawer-tool-cabinet-w-top-chest-2-side-cabinets-on-backorder.html

something like this should hold most of the tools you'll need

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>>16722808
>THIS BASED MEME MECHANIC
No, it's the rest of you trying to pigeonhole hillary kilmer into some memes.

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>>16724773
you better watch your floor jack pal

>>16720161
pretty good

the needle nose vice grips are essential

>>16691983
Fiero with a bodykit

>>16725038
Did you stuff Bill in the trunk?

>>16725038
I use stands

>>16692009
>>16726422

>Wheels say Pontiac
Is it actually a Fiero for once? That chassis does look sketchy as fuck.

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>>16725038

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Just got my gearwrench 120xps in.

$103 for a 3/8 drive set with "free" 1/4 set

>>16729661
looks like a lot of redundant sizes

>>16720007
>changing oil is level 3


SAD!

>>16729674
>not having multiple sockets in different drive sizes


You need a minimum of 12 14mm sockets you filthy amateur.

>shallow 6 pt in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2
>deep 6 pt in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2
>shallow 12 pt in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2
>deep 12 pt in 1/4 3/8 and 1/2

You really need a set of single hex and double hex sockets.

I always see people stripping their bolt heads because they use double hex on a single hex bolt pattern.

Any tool kit will do you good, Breaker bar is a must, don't use your rachets to untighten shit. I learned the hard way.

>>16730675
>untighten
The word you're looking for is "loosen."

Guise rate my tools
Torque wrench 25-250 ftlbs
Breaker bar
13mm-22mm 1/2 sockets to go with those two
Missing 16mm

Gear wrench rubber grip 120xp 1/4 and 3/8 drive ratchets
6mm-19mm short, medium, and deep 3/8 sockets
9mm-19mm universal/swivel sockets 3/8
8mm-22mm extended wrench set
Assorted picks, screwdrivers
Ball peen hammer, Vise grip

Have my own jack and two stands too.
Ironically I don't have any 1/4 sockets yet because Im retarded.
Anything else I should get?

>>16731772
do you have some rope?

>>16731836
very funny.

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why don't tool kits include shorter 3/8 extensions? seems to just be one standard size which is a piece of dog shit. just did valve covers on a v8 today and there was no fucking room at all for a torque wrench

>>16728432
The wheels say pontiac brother.

>>16732510
>V8
>torque wrench on anything but head bolts

Really now?

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You don't want, you NEED a Snap-On TM4CS driver/extension.

This bastard is one of the very most used tools in my entire tool box. Not only is it a 1/4" drive nut driver (just put a socket on the end), it also doubles as an extension, because you can attach a 1/4" ratchet to the back.

Once you start using one, you'll wonder how you ever did work without one.

>>16734259
is there a non snap on version of this tool?

lowest on ebay is 30 bux and i don't want to pay the snap on meme tax

>>16734259

why would you need an extension that long?

>>16734879
changing spark plugs on a fbody

>>16734289
Not that I know of. Snap-On probably has the patent.

They can be had cheaper than $30 though. Set up an eBay alert and when one pops up cheaper, grab it. I did a quick "Completed Items" search, and in the past, they have sold for $12.85 shipped.

Do get one though. It really is an amazing tool, especially for work around the house or interior work in the car. I'd go so far as to say indispensable.

>>16734879
Dude, I have extensions that are 24", If you ever start doing serious wrenching, you'll soon understand why.

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I'm in need of timing light. Is it one of those tools that you really got to spend money on to get something decent, or am I fine just getting the harbor freight special?

>>16729715
It seems that list could go a lot higher but the OP has not mentioned more than oil filter changes in his past posts.

>>16734259
Bought the set of two twenty years ago, used as nut drivers about 5 times. They've been in the "yeah I might need that one day" box for at least 18 years.

>>16735064
brightness is all that counts

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Ok I keep hearing everyone meme about marbour freight this and they're a piece of shit that

I need to buy a jack, jack stands, torque wrench, and breaker bar.

Can I buy any of these things used? Should I just go to Canadian tire and get a jack on sale or a auto parts store or what? Pls help

>Obligatory Chevy c10 picture because I want one so bad

>>16734289
One of these came with the first socket set I ever got, which was the store brand one from true value. You can definitely find a non-snapon one.

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>>16734907
>2017
>still using hand tools when far superior power tools exist for the same job

Love this little guy. I really wish they still made them. The newer versions are roughly twice the size and weight.

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a day of manual wrenching makes me want to kill myself

>>16737384
Wrenching with shit tools tends to have that effect.

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>>16737384
fab does. it takes forever.
wrenching is ok but fab....

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>>16737399
why do vw need special snowflake tools?

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>>16737416
a vw wrench. i rest my case.

>>16737416
>why do superior cars need superior tools

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>>16737426
superior? so you are one of THOSE people

>>16737416
This is pretty common with European cars in general and is caused by a complete dismissal of serviceability by the engineers.

The average age of a car is America is close to 12 years while in Germany it's just shy of 9 years (which is even more significant when you consider the fact that Americans drive nearly double the miles per year vs the average european) Cars in Europe are designed to be a tool that is disposed of after a given amount of time.

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>>16737483
heres another vw tool.

>>16685381

It's a long rabbit hole. At least you'll get some experience out of it.

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>>16737501
vw tool 297

>>16737483
Cars in germany drive under totaly different conditions, we drive much faster with our cars.
Even my econobox gets to drive 110mphat least twice a week.
Also the amount of cold starts is more important than the mileage, since most wear occurs when the oil in the bearings and isn´t at operating temperature.
A small load on a warmed up engine doesn´t put much wear on it.

>>16737515
spark plug distractor. Perfectly necessary

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>>16737534

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>>16737540
a table of tools to work on a beetle. simple car indeed

>>16737550
>Simson S51 (german moped)
>1 set of sockets(metric)
>1 screwdriver flat
>0,40mm feeler gauge
>1 tool to remove ignition rotor
>pliers
>spark plug socket

That´s it, you don´t need more.

>>16737530
Just how often do you think bearing failure mechanically retires vehicles? I'm willing to bet that number is less than 10%. A combination of transmission, axles, engine leaks, and suspension component failures are far more common causes of a mechanically totalled vehicle. I've torn engines down with 750,000 miles and the only time I see any significant bearing wear is when the oil system has failed or has been contaminated with coolant or fuel.

>>16737618
Not just the bearings, the pistons, piston rings, valvetrains, hydrolifters and VVT/VVL systems as well wear out excessively during cold starts.
Gerboxesfailiureres aren´t much of a thing here on manuals.

>>16737643
And contamination and mechanical failure is a far more common cause of the destruction of all these parts than lack of lubrication ever since the advent of multi viscosity oil.

Manual gearboxes fail just as often as a well designed automatic. The only real difference being that rather than having an external clutch like a manual auto have clutches inside of the gearbox. Gear teeth, synchronizers, and shift forks and rails all wear with mileage and use.

>>16737687
The advent of multi viscosity oil only reduced this wear, but it is still there.

As long as you stay in the same gear only the teeth wear slowly out.
Forks, synchronizers and rails wear out during shifts.
If you drive 100 miles on the highway, only the teeth wear out extremely slowly since you stay in the same gear.

>>16737742
This exact same situation applies with automatic transmissions. What is your point?

>>16737802
Doubble clutches or clutch bands wear out faster than the synchronizers and cluthchpads of a manual transmission.
Also having them in cluchpad contaminated oil increases the wear significantly.

>>16737842
>contaminating your gearbox by neglecting service procedures damages automatic trans mission therefore they are less reliable than manuals


Make no fucking sense. There are just as many wear points on a manual transmission during gear changes and that amount is not significantly different.

>>16737871
These are metal/metal wear points floating in oil.
These parts barely touch each other due to the oil film.
The oil doesn´t get contaminated as much as in a automatic, even if you change the fluid often enough.

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>>16737891
Metal flakes are far more damaging to a gearset than an insignificant amount of friction material suspended in oil.

>>16737956
>Clutch 100k miles
Only if you torture the clutch.
>1000$
On a DSG or some fancy sports car maybe.
A new clutch itself is pretty cheap, if you DIY you can replace it for under 100$.
If you let it replace it might cost up to 500$ on a normal car.


>Metal flakes
These are catche by a magnet verry fast

The clutch material stays in the oil and gets in the oil flim bettween metal parts where it contacts botch and creates wear.

Also the efficiency of a manual transmission with a good driver can´t be matched with a automatic transmission.

>>16737956
what clutch are you fukin buyin. i just bought an act clutch for my truck from less than $450. I could get a twin disk for like $1100

>>16737102
so what is this type of tool called? Keep in mind i am looking for one with the ability to put a ratchet on the end

>>16737069
harbor freights jack stands and breaker bar are grate and cheap

their torque wrenches are shit avoid those

this lard ass tested the 1/2in Extended Handle Ratchet witch is basically the same material as the breaker bar, you cant go wrong with it and its cheap af.

>>16738610
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HomQp1oYqCw

>>16738610
Google "1/4 inch drive spinner handle". Some can be used as extensions, some can't, so just pay attention when you buy it.

>>16737618
>the only time I see any significant bearing wear is when the oil system has failed or has been contaminated with coolant or fuel.
Problems will happen since people don't change their oil soon enough. Or if the oil filter gets a hole that lets a lot of grit flow through it. Or that gasket leaks occur. Or that oil and additives fail sooner due to turbo soak. On and on etcetera.

>>16739109
>1/4 inch drive spinner handle
Thanks a bunch anon you da best

>>16722220
thanks for the inspo.

i've actually been helping my friend with his ride lately, and it's been lighting the spark again.

I wish I had a better home workspace, all I wanna do is work on the nitpicky bullshit on my rides now.

>>16734879
>why would you need an extension that long?
Not that guy, but dash bolts can use 18 inch or longer extensions for BMW dashes.

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>>16685381
>What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?

First figure out what kind of repairs you are going to do.

>>16685381
As a Mechanic, Everything.

>>16691566
i've been eyeing up the harbor freight 301 pc set ($160) to start off on -- are all those extras just memes that I won't actually use?

>>16734879
There are a few times I've had to put several extensions together to be about a foot long, in particular spark plugs and a power steering pressure sensor, just because it was in such an impossible place

In addition to everything else in the thread, deep sockets

I don't know how many times I had to make something stupid work because I couldn't fit a socket on it, I finally got a set of deep sockets and used them way more than I thought I would

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Do you guys think I can torque down a hex bolt to 60nm with a regular crowfoot or should I try and find one that will go around the hex bolt more? No stores in my area have one and I already have a 24mm crowfoot, kinda scared of rounding off the bolt

>>16686837
Spic driving a spicced out car

typical

>>16743486
>are all those extras just memes that I won't actually use?
You should make it easy for people to evaluate the tool set with a link. If you force everyone to duplicate the wheel, that is a lot of duplicated effort wasted. Provide links.

And you have not said that you are limiting your repairs to head gasket or easier. And you have to specify the make of car and the year. Cars vary a great deal too. You could say Malibu and some will assume the classic malibu while most others would assume the 2005 and newer Malibu. But then the various malibu vary on tools needed to get to the water pump.

>>16743972
I've had a 13mm normal crowsfoot open up on me when I was tightening a downpipe on a turbo. Harbor freight though, so not totally unexpected.

What're you tightening and why cant you use a socket? Also 60nm at the torque wrench =/= 60nm at the crowsfoot's open end wrench portion. Use an online calculator so you're not overtorquing

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>>16744796

hmm okay. going to be torquing a supercharger pulley bolt, apparently you will get pretty close if you use a crowsfoot at 90 degrees, found this video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv_KHH55qdQ

>>16744796

oh and i can't use a socket because i couldn't really be fucked removing the fan shroud

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>>16686837
>a box that comes with ALOT of useful tools
never happens
its better to buy tools individually as you need them
and second hand if you know what you are looking for

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>>16744842
http://www.cncexpo.com/TorqueAdapter.aspx

Here, nifty online calculator.

I'd say if you're REALLY worried about stripping heads, use a 24mm box wrench. Otherwise hope the crowsfoot holds up. Decent brand or is it a low end one?

pic unrelated

>Beginner kit
Harbor Freight:
>64 piece socket set
>9 piece extension set
>Blue handle screwdriver set
>Ratcheting box end with pivot set, either metric or SAE
>Medium vise grips
>Medium crescent wrench
>Large channel locks (DO NOT buy the orange handle one. The grooves aren't cut at the same radius on both sides, it's trash)
>Large needle nose pliers
>Deadblow hammer, and the $2 rubber mallet is useful sometimes as well
>4 piece pick set
>Magnetic parts tray
>Aluminum slim jack
>Pair of jack stands
>Pancake air compressor with tire filler
>Folding Allen wrench tool
If you need an impact wrench, buy the corded impact and an impact socket set and return them the same day for a full refund.

>Intermediate upgrade kit
Harbor Freight:
>Second pair of jackstands
>Other set of ratcheting box ends
>3 piece vise grips set (caution: inspect before purchasing. At least one of these sets is built backwards and doesn't lock correctly.)
>T-handle Allen wrench set
>Small pliers set
>Small or medium rolling toolbox
>Power drill socket adapter set
>The screwdriver tip set that has like 50 tips in it (don't buy these elsewhere, stripping out a cheap tip is a lot better than stripping out a screw)

Gearwrench:
>120XP ratchet set

Makita:
>18V cordless drill

>Advanced upgrade kit
Harbor Freight:
>20 or 60 gallon upright air compressor
>1/2" air impact+impact sockets
>3/8" air ratchet
>Die grinder

Buy other tools as necessary, obviously. Don't buy shitty power tools (meaning: made in China, meaning: not Makita). Harbor Freight air tools are okayish, but be sure to keep them oiled (obviously), and replace them with better stuff like Ingersoll Rand or Chicago Pneumatic when you've got tool money to spare.

>>16744940
>meaning: not Makita
I always thought Makita was okay for power tools. Is something going on with them? Lots of Japanese items are made in China too. They also have the same economic problems that cause their factories to be in China.

>>16685512
oil filter wrench and funnel,
metric/sae 1/4" socket wrench set,
metric/sae hand wrench set,
screwdriver set,
voltmeter, wire stripper/crimper, grab bag of crimp connectors
bottle jack, jack stands. tire iron, electric air pump

you can do basic service and at minimum replace a faulty part with those tools

>>16734289
ayyy yes there is its made by napa i found mine on the side of the road the number is 775-1277 idk if thats a tool number or not

>>16713834
http://manuals.co/
you're welcome

>>16735064
its basically a lightbulb in a plastic gun, so literally anything made in the last 40 years will work fine

>>16746403
No, you read that backwards. Shit = Chinese = Everything that isn't Makita.

DeWalt, Ryobi, B&D, Bosch, Milwaukee, every other "" reputable "" brand other than Makita makes components or entire tools in China. They're just Harbor Freight with slightly better QC and worse return policies for many times the price.

>>16713834
>Any good books (pdfs I can download) for a complete noob
There's lots of them in the automobile books thread in the /t/ section. There are basic auto technology books and advanced ones on engine rebuilding. I haven't checked to see if that thread is still there from last month, but threads are slow to die there since people don't treat threads there as chatboxes.

You can also watch the youtube series "engineering explained". Many points not covered in books are explained there.

>>16685381
>So I am looking into doing my own maintenance and repair work on my car
When you put it that way, you'll not be buying all the tools at once. You'll be buying them piecemeal in the order you are learning to do things on your car. That way, if you decide to give up doing maintenance beyond a certain level, you won't have overspent by getting tools that you won't use. But you will have tools you are able to use for maitenance you are comfortable doing up to that point.

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I'm looking into buying a set of torgue extensions, whats a good brand that wont break the bank.

>>16729661
Where did you cop that deal? Free 1/4 set? What's the catch?

>>16685381
>What are some essential tools that I should have in my repertoire?
Don't buy giant sets of tools.
More and more oil pans are made of aluminum now, so they are even easier to strip. If the dealer replaces it, well, my dealer charged me $800 for one. Since I had no:
jack, jack stands, torque wrench, and knowledge, I had to pay it. The parts (pan, gasket, new oil plug gasket) are relatively low cost. The replacement oil fill was like twice the charge of an oil/filter change! Ripped off. But had to pay it since it was part of the total repair.

>>16747646
There were three torrent sources with gigabytes of books to choose from.

>>16731772
Hose pliers, a multimeter, cheap scan tool/OBDII to usb cable, a flashlight, magnet-on-a-stick, mirror, wire brush, tape, paint marker, and rags. You can never have too many rags.

>>16749433
Bought the pittsburgh set about 10 years ago. If you can find them sold separate I would just get the blue one its the only one I use (on my tires)

>>16737150
>Actual magazine battery
want.

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>>16755684
Shit's tight.
Especially great for interiors

>>16747266 (checked)
Listen to Satan, OP. Also, Harbor Freight floor jacks are pretty cheap and a fantastic investment. And don't forget a big plan to collect your oil in.

>>16749433
>>16755266

The fuck is the point of those?
Used them in highschool shop for wheels but still went over them with a torque wrench.

>>16749433
Chinashit will last longer than you think. Get anything.

>>16755821
Pretty much nobody who wrenches for a living uses a torque wrench on lug nuts, ain't got time fo dat.
Torque sticks still aren't the "right" way, but it sure beats just hammering away full power with your impact.

>>16749433
>>16755830
You may not need a $200 Matco set, but please get better than HF.
This goes for anything that measures torque

>>16755896
>hammering away full power

Isn't there a regulator?
Anyway... basically waste of space for a dude in his garage.

>>16755896
Harbor Freight torque wrenches are fine, I've rebuilt over a dozen engines with them and they're all still running. I'm not a fan of the design of their calipers, but they're functional enough. The only measuring equipment from HF that I'd flat out refuse to use are their levels.

>>16755910
>Isn't there a regulator?

Most of the time yes, but it's annoying going back and forth for loosening/tightening.
Also the air line pressure can vary in the shop, it's more consistent to set the impact on max and let the stick take it down

>Anyway... basically waste of space for a dude in his garage.

Yes, and money

>>16755830

>Chinashit
>Last longer thank you think

Pick one. Me and my friend bought harbor freight tool kits for an auto class. His wrench socket adapter sheared in half and my one of my wrenches stripped itself.

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>>16755972
Glad you've had good luck with them, but I'll stick a good digital wrench like pic related.

>>16756065
Stick with*

>>16756065
wat brand is dis and how much monies is it?

>>16756079

https://store.snapon.com/TechAngle-174-Models-2-Accuracy-Ratcheting-Flex-Head-1-2-Drive-Electronic-Flex-Head-TechAngle-reg-Torque-Wrench-12-5-ndash-250-ft-lb--P760213.aspx

Not worth it unless you're a mechanic, and probably still not worth it then, but fuck it I can pay the snap on guy $30 a week till the end of time

>>16756096
>559.95

FOR A FUCKING WRENCH

What kind of terrible meme is this?

>>16756109

Yeah but it has a panic attack when you get to spec.

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>>16756109

https://store.snapon.com/Standard-Models-2-Accuracy-Ratcheting-Torque-Wrench-Electronic-Techwrench-reg-Flex-Ratchet-25-ndash-250-ft-lb-1-2-drive-P642511.aspx

This is actually more like the one I have, still $500.

This is the meme of tool trucks. Your basic bitch snap on tool box is like 4-5 grand.

>>16756116
kek

>>16755808
>Harbor Freight floor jacks are pretty cheap and a fantastic investment

They might suddenly have a seal leak too. Some users have them fail after regularly jacking to the full amount for a year's use. So you still need jack stands that are stable and won't have a microcrystalline stress fracture.

I need to get a breaker bar, most things on my car only require 3/8 but I need 1/2 for the sockets that are big enough to take my lug nuts off. Which one do I get? I think I'd have to get a set of adapters as well

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>>16685381
Look into this set OP. A fucking steal at $150

>>16758087
Or wait for the chinese knock-off which will be good enough and have easy returns at Harbor Freight. Some of the newer HF retail stores are huge two story things. So they sell stuff not in the mailed out catalogs.

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I need a tool storage case. My shut is everywhere and I have nowhere to put them.

>>16759079
If your garage has no shelving, then that is more important a first purchase than a tool storage case.

>>16758087
>chinkshit
>12 point
No.

>>16755791
they still make them or anything similar?

pro tip from me fuckin read the entire instructions in the service manual or forum post or whatever cause there's always some tool that nobody ever mentions like a crazy large socket or something, don't just read the "what you'll need" crap they put at the beginning cause it never includes everything you actually need

i was replacing the clutch and flywheel on my rx7 and i love how nobody mentions the huge 54mm nut torqued at 300ft lbs to begin with

anyways, a complete socket set in either sae or metric depending on what you'll be using most, or both if you want, floor jack and stands and a breaker bar is good to get you started but there's tons of other things for each job so just don't worry about them until you need them

>>16759905
It has 6 AND 12 point

>>16759079
>My shut is everywhere and I have nowhere to put them.
When you have a lot of shit everywhere and nowhere to put it, you have to take care of that first. If you haven't touched it in several years, it's time to get rid of it.

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>>16759079
Pegboard

Full 8 side socket set
Impact driver
Full set of taps and dies
Angle grinder
Dead blow hammer
Torque wrench
Scaffold pole
Axle stands
Trolley jack

>>16763764
>8 side
Wot

>>16756011
The problem with advice about Harbor Freight is that batches vary in metal quality. Your wrench and socket had the wrong alloy content.

YMMV. Someone has a good experience with HF tools and says HF is great. But his tools came from when those tools were introduced to HF and had okay metal. After awhile, the supply factory to HF decides to make production changes once they passed the probation period. The metal is cheapened or they might change raw metal suppliers. Later tool batches might be made with contaminated metal because the chinese often toss all sorts of metal scrap for recycling. So your stainless steel chinese water flask or tableware might have lead in the metal too.

>>16685381
>So I am looking into doing my own maintenance and repair work on my car
How much do you know about working on a car so far? If not much, then check out the auto book downloads and read up before you start doing some of the small things.

>>16699643
Scotty doesnt use them, so why should OP

If you've ever used harbor freight tools, and then the tool suddenly broke or cracked after XX number of uses, the same analogy might occur for HF jack stands. That's why I use wooden ramps when changing oil.

>>16770115
That's because there's no legal requirement for testing and making claims for ratchets. Jackstands are each required to be able to hold 1.5 times the rated capacity of the pair. So if you have a 3 ton pair of jackstands, they should be good for 4.5 tons apiece or 9 tons as a pair. Stay under that 3 ton rating and you'll be fine as long as you're using them correctly. Nearly all jackstand failures are caused by misuse, like resting the neck on top of the pawl instead of locking it in, or not resting the base on a sufficiently flat, hard surface. Expensive tools can't save you from being retarded.

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>>16770203
>Jackstands are each required to be able to hold 1.5 times the rated capacity of the pair.
Chinese interpretation would then be such that if a jackstand was marked 3 tons, that means a PAIR of jackstands had a 3 tons max rating total. And the 1.5X rating is only for the first jackstand version sold ten years ago when the line was introduced.

Chinese believe in free substitutions and typically do so without resubmissions for retesting. Chinese products used to have "UL" and "CSA" freely stamped on many products even though those specific model version changes were not tested by UL. It took quite awhile before UL was able to stop that. As a result, almost all chinese branded products sold in the USA stopped putting UL markings on them which shows how few were actually tested by UL.

Faked testing occurs even with chinese auto crash tests. Chery tried to get better crash test results. They took a GM Daewoo car and reskinned it with Chery bodywork and submitted that for crash tests in order to try to get some extra good ratings. But that is how blatant and crass and corrupt things are about selling goods internationally.

>>16734879
Took out bell housing bolts with 4 1' extensions put together one time

>>16743972
Worst case scenario the wrench opens up and slips. Even if you do manage to slip only 2 of the 6 corners will be affected. I personally would at least try it and if it fails just pick up a flared crowfoot.

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Anyone ever tried one of these shits? Do they actually work or are they just a shitty meme wrench for rounding off all your nuts?

>>16759961
They still make a similar tool, but its roughly twice the size. No real reason to buy snap on when virtually every cordless tool manufacturer makes some sort of cordless screwdriver.

>>16771323
I've used a cheaper brand and it was actually pretty awful. What's worse is it compromises the open end of the wrench which is already pretty fucking vulnerable to slippage and it tries to solve a problem that doesn't really exist.

>>16737956
145,000 on my clutch and no signs of slipping, although the throwout bearing is slowly shitting itself, common Subie problem.

>>16756109
I've heard good things about CDI torque wrenches. Not bad for $150.

https://www.amazon.com/CDI-Torque-2503MFRMH-Micrometer-Adjustable/dp/B002LA1EDO

>>16771323
The classic ways of rounding off nuts is to use an open ended wrench or a 12-point socket on a nut that wants 6.

>>16771333
but can you reload it like a gun?

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>>16772024
If the snap on is a .38 special then a milwaukee m12 is a .45 acp

Do digital torque wrenches eventually need to be recalibrated?

>>16720161
Zipties are like herpes, you put one in your car suddenly there's a dozen.
Don't start a habit you can't quit, /o/.

>>16772116
All torque wrenches do.

>>16771323
I have an SAE set of the original Craftsman ratcheting open ended wrenches. I really am amazed by how well they perform. Just this week I used one on a PS pump pulley installer, the angle was awkward and the box end kept slipping and busting my knuckles. I switched to the straight angle of the open end and it saved the job. Even putting over 100 ft lbs on every turn it never opened or slipped.

>>16771323
meme tool

and they only "work" when you can hold them exactly 90 degrees with the bolt head, which will almost never be possible. Get some flexy ratchet wrenches instead.

>>16772299
i would say bendy beam just need to be glanced at not calibrated

>>16772523
I've got a set but they obviously won't work for anything you have to use an open end for. 80% of things you can get with a box end you're better off putting a socket on. If I could find a ratcheting open end that worked okay, there'd be no reason to have box ends at all.