What does /o/ think of this car? 250d (204CV) comes at 60.000€

>>16682290
Post tits. Only women buy crossovers.

Does the c stand for cuck?

>>16682292
I don't have them, sorry to disappoint...

>>16682309
It's for coupè, I think?

ugly and useless, just like the GLE coupe. That thing looks like a beached whale, get a normal GLC instead

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>4 door coupe

>>16682350
For factor has to be like this one or BMW X4

>>16682408
>no rear headroom
>shit handling
>shit ride
>no trunk space
Fucking why though?

GLA's are godtier though, driven one and it's like a luxury grown up Subaru.

>>16682290
There is literally no reason to buy that vehicle.

It's like taking the dick waving useless /out/ness of a Land Rover and watering it down even more by taking away the functionality that Land Rovers have outdoors.

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G, GL or bust. The old GLK looked like a proper SUV while being small but the new lineup is just a fucking joke.

id get a range rover sport with the 4cyl or SDV6 or a pimped out evoque. or id wait for the stelvio

>>16682421
>I saw a review on youtube and a 190cm guy fit, so it's more than enough
>why shit handling? it's 1.7 tons, it should be stable
>again why?
>more than enough for what I need

Because I need a sporty-ish big car and this one seems better than X4

>>16682422
Not enough CV with best choice of diesel engine

>>16682425
Won't use it for outdoor: 50% highway, 50% city

>>16682431
great looking car but not what i'm seeking

>>16682434
Evoque is a possibility too but I never drove a Land Rover so I'd have to try it out first.

Stelvio is not bad but seems overpriced if compared with GLC.

>>16682455
A car this big and heavy isn't gonna be "sporty". The marketing department can brag all they want about it being """"AN SUV WITH THE HEART AND SOUL OF A SPORTS CAR"""" but if you want an SUV, don't get something pretending to be a sports car and if you want something sporty, just get a regular C-Class and not some abomination that tries to be both and doesn't quite manage to be either.

what the fuck is this CV your talking about? hp? kw?

>>16682468
"Cheveux", French for horsepower (or literally "horses").

>>16682466
I know but I have a 2007 C class now and performance wise it would be the same (0-100 kmh in 8 secs - 220kmh top)

>>16682468
hp

>>16682478
Alright, I'll break it down for you.
Trying to turn an SUV into a sports car is stupid because:
>SUV has high ride height and even higher center of gravity
>SUV's main selling point is practicality (lots of room)
>sports cars tend to have their CoG as low as possible because this improves handling
>sports cars usually have stiff suspension because this reduces body roll
Now combine the two:
>high CoG, needs even stiffer suspension to reduce bodyroll, which ruins ride quality
>sloped "coupe" roofline ruins rear headroom and trunk space
>the result still handles worse than its sedan or wagon equivalent

If you absolutely must have that new car, just get a C-Class. It'll be equally practical, handle better, and use less fuel to boot.

>>16682478
Just keep the C-class or move up to a used E-class. These crossovers are shit.

>>16682505
But it has 4WD so it should help stability and being bigger it should be far more safe than a normal C class

>>16682526
they are not enough for what you pay, I agree, but I like this form of a gigantic sedan

>>16682539
Safety has more to do with the engineering of the car than its weight or size. Plus a crossover or SUV is actually more likely to roll because of its higher center of gravity.

You can get a C- or E-Class with AWD.

>>16682539
VEHICLE SIZE DOES NOT EQUATE TO SAFETY. Kindly fuck off and never come back to this board.

>>16682290
What is Jaguar F-pace? Look there, for that money you get a fuckin Jag which has really solid handling (even on snow it is fun and predictable)

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>>16682550
His wife told him size doesn't matter

>>16682550
Calm down man, I've come here to learn. I saw some crash tests and GLC seems safer than a C class.

>>16682556
Didn't think of that one actually, thank, I'll look it up

>>16682584
You're not an enthusiast so why are you here? If you like crossovers you have shit taste.

>>16682590
To seek advice asking to who knows more, wasn't that obvious? I'm trying to learn pros and cons

>>16682290
I was thinking about getting one too.

Lots of ice where I live, the 4x4 on this would help my drive to work. Won't need snow tires in that case as well.

I like the coupe look to it, looks better then the c class

>>16682675
cool, so the 4x4 helps you stopping / slowing down on an icy road?

alright m8

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>>16682689
yeah it gives you more control

Snow tires arent needed anymore, most cars have 4x4 now so you dont get stuck

I just want one for ice, why is that bad?

>>16682695
>implying 4x4 with summers is better than fwd with winters
you are wrong sir

>>16682700
lol how even

4 wheels moving is better then 2, stops better as well because 4 wheels are powered

And lots of safety systems and advanced ABS helps it stop great and not spin out on fast icy corners

I'm sorry you cant seem to grasp this concept

>>16682706
also can offroad if I want to as well, the 4x4 is good offroad, better then your fwd trash

>>16682706
are you from somewhere that never snows?

it doesnt matter how many wheels you have moving if the tires cannot grip the surface

ALSO

4wd=/=4w stop

any car with 2wd and winters wil stop shorter than a car with 4wd and summers, as the the tires will grip better

>I'm sorry you cant seem to grasp this concept

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>>16682715
whatever


I'll have a sweet looking car and drive right past your shitbox in the winter

>>16682722
which one?
the fwd or the 4wd one?

>>16682700
depends on conditions of surface and type of tires.

My oldschool memebaru with proper awd (manual, dual range gearbox, viscous coupling on center diff, with no esp/traction control) was able to drive trough fresh snow at ease while fwd econobox from Skoda with brand new winter tires and electronic diff-lock simulation (selective braking pretty much) was struggling no matter how we tried to persuade systems to keep going. It just refused to spin wheels and stalled or when systems were disabled it was just spinning one wheel digging into packed snow. I know that running summer tires in snow is madness but I did it as my new winter tires didn't arrive in time... of course braking was really bad but I was surprised how well it handled overall...

So no, fwd with winters is not always better off than proper awd with winter tires - unless your winter tires are semislicks.

>>16682706
You're gonna have a hard time getting those 4 summer tires to grip anything in snow. Look I know a lot of you guys think you know but just stop you're borderline retarded. I'd pick a FWD with decent snow tires over a 4x4 with soft compound summers any day

>>16682728
>So no, fwd with winters is not always better off than proper awd with winter tires - unless your winter tires are semislicks.

my post was 4wd with summers vs fwd with winters

>>16682735
of course my mistake in that last sentance. Just saying that it depends on other factors and you can't just claim it as bulletproof truth.

The only truth is this - every vehicle will get stuck in snow eventually if there is too much of it. Those with good tires and all wheel drive will get stuck further from help.

>>16682731
why

>>16682431
buying a g for anything other than off road porpoises is retarded, even more so than buying a unibody mall crawler

>>16682753
in eastern europe G-wagen is a status symbol for mafia pretty much. You know that whoever is in it has some illegal arsenal on the back seat...

>>16682750
this is fact. i agree, kind sir.

>>16682290
Alfa romeo stelvio maybe? Launch editiom goes for like 58k with 280hp

>>16682812
see
>>16682455

>>16682290
What a fucking abomination. Slower, much uglier and less practical than a sedan/wagon. Worse mpg too. Where are you from????

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>>16682830>>16682830
>Slower, much uglier and less practical than a sedan/wagon

1. it has 241HP

2. it looks better then an ugly wagon, idk what you on about

3. its an SUV so it has WAY more space for cargo and people

>>16682856
You're hilariously deluded if you think a """"sporty 4-door coupe SUV"""" has more room for people and cargo than a regular wagon.

Also 241hp is fuckall when the car weighs 3 fucking tons.

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>>16682860
0-60 in 5.9 seconds, thats fast

and it has a HUGE amount of space

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>>16682872
Would be great if the low, sloping, """"sporty"""" roofline didn't cut all that space in half.

>>16682860
c class wagon trunk space 12.6cu ft

glc coupe trunk space = 19.4 cu ft

get cucked wagonfag

>>16682879
still has more space then c class wagon, cuck

I'm going to look at a GLC coupe tomorrow

>>16682883
>>16682887
R E K T
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Go for it OP, the GLC Coupe is a fantastic balance of sportiness, comfort, safety, practicality and luxury. You'll love it.

>>16682899
OP here, my last message is 17.15, other anons like this car.
Anyway thanks everyone, all interesting thought. I agree with the winter wheels anon, they are far more better through snow and ice.

I have a question, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-wheel_drive 4wd and fwd are the same thing, right? I didn't get so from the discussion.

You either get the AMG series our you dont buy a fucking merc

>>16682951
getting a glc 300

;>)

>>16682951
>yurop
>being able to afford an AMG

>>16682932
four wheel drive=4wd and front wheel drive=fwd

>>16682979
Ok thank you, I was reading that f as a four

>>16682932
>>16682899
Get an E-class wagon if you need space or e-class coupe if you want 2 doors and stop being a cuck. A jack of all trades is a master of none.

>>16682951
t. Poorfag

>>16682998
t. wagoncuck

>>16682331
I hope they realize they put four doors on it...

>>16683015
wagons are better than crossovers. if you don't agree you should kill yourself.

>>16683032
>wagons are better than crossovers. if you don't agree you should kill yourself.


Wrong.

Theres a reason crossovers and SUV are cooler then faggot wagons

>>16683022
Ofc
I was kidding the other anon

Instead of illegal immigrants, Trump should use the national guard to round up and deport crossover drivers. What a bunch of useless fucks.

>>16682290
New mercs make me angry, they all have this condescending look on their face even though all of them except the top models are just fat over engineered badgewhore mobiles.

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>>16683036
>crossovers
>cool
>mfw
SUV's you're thinking of probably aren't cool either because you seem like the type of faggot that likes soccer mom tier vehicles

>>16683051
Sure thing, guy.

>>16683051
>implying crossovers don't combine the best of all worlds

>>16683036
They're not cooler. They're only driven by women that like >muh seating position and men that are cucked by their wives into getting one.

>>16683083
please tell us more about how your pseudo-offroad station wagon with a slanted roofline and 6" lift is the coolest thing on the road

>>16683091
Best of what worlds?
Most are fwd until they slip
Heavy
Numb steering
Worse mpg.

>>16683091
>take a station wagon and make it pigfat so it gets worse mileage, is slower, less practical, and chop the roofline so it has less cargo room
>"IT'S BETTER NOW!"
feel free to kill yourself at any time

>>16682722
Post the sweet looking car then

>>16683114
Sportier and more economical than an SUV
More practical and safer than a wagon
Looks slick af

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>>16683043

>hurr crossover is bad durr but I can't explain why

Sasuga /o/.

>>16682422
HAHAHAH you must be soooooo poor to even think of such a connection. Please buy all of the GLA inventory so I don't have to look at that monstrosity.

>>16682290
i drove this, i found it really disappointing.
Being used to GL this was a step down. Consider Q7 or better yet, SQ7.

>>16683321
FINALLY SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

>this entire fucking thread

>>16683351
It's hilarious how crossovers trigger /o/ so fucking badly.

>>16683321
I would but they cost too much

>>16683378
/o/ hates everything they can't afford, even when it's objectively superior

>>16683583
especially when it's objectively superior*

This is how you should respond to this thread if you don't like crossovers and have nothing to add about what the OP is asking for:
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>
>

>this thread
Are wagonfags the worst people on /o/?

>>16683676
It would appear that way, yes.

>>16682431
The GLC has substantially more leg and cargo room than the GLK and looks like a station wagon rather than a wannabe G-class. The new lineup is objectively superior.

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Dont be a nigger, get an F pace

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>>16683964
Yes! One of the two only crossover SUVs I'd ever consider buying.

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>>16683981
Very reasonable priced too

>>16683964
I tried to configure one some minutes ago. It comes at 63000€ with minimum optionals (250d version), so it would be slightly over budget.
I gotta get a test drive anyhow.

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Preferably in hybrid form for those delicious envirotax breaks.

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>>16683091
yeah,sitting so high really is the best

>>16684290
Hybrid is for 130k€ so no.
Diesel one doesn't have automatic transmission, only "geartronic". Always drove manual transmission cars so I want an automatic one for a change.

>>16684365
"geartronic" sounds like a marketing term for "automatic" to me.

>>16684377
I looked it up, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geartronic and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bee0XgCAQ you still have to shift gears manually.

>>16684399
It says right there it has both automatic and manual modes.

>>16684408
"Manumatic refers to an automatic transmission that allows convenient driver control of gear selection." For what I can get you don't have to use clutch but you still have to shift gears yourself.

>>16684427
"The microprocessor automatically shifts to the next gear if a forgetful user in manual mode red lines the engine. Manual shifting is allowed with the gear stick in the manual mode. The gear stick can also be used just like any other automatic gearbox, where the transmission will shift automatically."
You can put it in automatic mode and it'll do all the shifting for you, or you can put it in manual mode where you decide when it shifts.

>>16684447
>where you decide when it shifts.
this is the critical distinction. its fly by wire shifting. how repugnant.

>>16684474
Then just leave it in auto. Simple.

>>16684447
Mm so XC90 is viable again, I'll try to configure one, thanks!

>>16682290

Cousin has one and it's very comfy and surprisingly fuel efficient when you're cruising at highway speeds, styling is a bit subjective though

Looks like an even uglier copy of the beamer x6

>We need the mid-life crisis and people with money but don't have taste audience!

>>16682455
Own a evoque. It's an awesome vehicle. 22mpg overall. Handles the snow like nothing else I've driven (due to torque vectoring I think). Not much of a back seat or trunk but that works for me.

Drives almost like a car. Keep your eye out for new model "RR Sport coupe". It's slightly larger.

>>16682290
How in the fuck is that a coupe by any definition?

>>16682695
>Snow tires arent needed anymore, most cars have 4x4 now so you dont get stuck

It's retards like you who ruin this board.

>>16682695
FYI snow tires with FWD outperform all seasons with AWD. There are videos on youtube if you are interested in learning more.

>>16683676
No. Crossover fags are the worst. You're not going offroad so a sedan/wagon is fine.

>>16682715
I do live somewhere where it pretty much doesn't snow, last time it did was 2004 and it wasn't cold enough to stay, it melted. It didn't even turn to ice.

>>16687072
Except crossovers look much better, are safer and are more practical.

>>16687633
Stop lying.

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>>16682290
You must be either a woman or french, so basically a woman.

>>16682290
Jude, wie kannst du dir so ein Auto leisten?

Looks like a great car for Stacey-Ann to marmalise a cyclist on the way to her bull

>guys I want this expensive power car, should I?
>no
>butt whyyyy
>because it's shit and here are the reasons
>that's not good enough even though I explained I am carretarded and "came here to learn", I'm gonna buy it anyway and act like I'm better than you lol
Every fucking time

>>16686858
Isn't 22 mpg too much? This GLC should do 39 as per data.

>>16688017
Neither

>>16688040
Hei man, I came here to learn, not to use your brain instead of mine.

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I have yet to see /o/ gives a good reason why crossovers suck. I mean I've driven one of these and it's a pocket rocket and quite fun to drive around with.

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>>16687526
then why give opinions on snow?

>>16688079
It all depends on use, I used to own a Saab 9-5 Aero which officially did 31mpg, but I frequently got 17 or so since I only used it on short journeys around the town

>>16688266
honestly the gla is more of a high-riding hatchback than a crossover, no matter what the marketing department says.

>>16688266
Isn't that a hatch tho or is Mercedes dropping the term crossover on everything

>>16688266
>Make hot hatch
>Call it a crossover so that you can convince your wife to get it

Merc are geniuses

>>16688266
I pity the fools who bought this, it's literally a lifted A class.

>>16688079
US gallons not imperial. That's with the 2.0 gas.

>>16684365
then take the petrol one
If petrol is too expensive for you then get a twingo.