Is German auto engineering a meme at this point? It seems like

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German cars have decent reliability.

>>16637841
They're built with krauts in mind, not burgers. You're supposed to maintain it meticulously.

>>16637930
this
germans are autistic, therefore their cares need autistic maintenance

Le mans

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>>16638008
They also market to autists.

>>16637878

Lexus good feels again

>>16638039
Porsche is doing pretty well too. Do you suppose it's because they're well built or because the average Porsche owner will actually take care of their car?

>>16638048
It might also be a function of low miles. I'm betting the average 2007 Porsche has a lot few miles than the average 2007 BMW or Mercedes

>>16638032
>not a slav
>BMW does not have bondo and a salvage title

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>>16637878

Le German reliability meme

What is:

>dieselgate
>DSG7
>Bmw N47 engines eating turbos and blowing up
>1.4 TSI "engine of the year" for 3 years and then discontinued because 100% unreliable
>1.2 TSI faulty distribution
>Bought car of the year scandals
>Mercedes using Renault diesels for the top selling powerbands in EU (German reliab- French reliability in this case but you know the charts don't know this fact)

Also, usual DSG gearbox dead:

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-mercedes-a-klasse-200.000-kilometer-dauertest-11112743.html

According to Volkswagen, when the guy took the car for a control they said - as they always do - that it was the state of the art. After X days it broke and the guy had to pay > 1000€.

>>16638032
>Base model automatic
>No bbs
There it is, I always wondered how he never got laid.

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>>16637878
>infotainment glitches on par with total engine failure

JD is a meme unless you specifically isolate for powertrain.

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>>16637878
>ferd BTFO as usual

IT NEVER ENDS

>>16637878
>Mazda
AHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>16637878
No, they fucking don't. They're garbage.

OP is correct.

>>16637878
The problem there is you are looking at brands not German engineering. Look at BMW or VW by manufacturing country and the German made ones have much better reliability than the US or Mexican ones.

>>16638249

Germans can't into plastics and rubber. Everything made of those materials (most of the car these days) disintegrates and falls apart.

>>16638086
Calm down, all BMW's have Bondo on them.
>I know because I have to fix the underside of every single front bumper they pull off the truck before it goes to the sales floor.

>>16640503
Germans have the most precise and durable plastic ever.
Wanna know who has the worst?
>Chevy
>Hyundai
>Ford
in that order.

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>>16640513

lool man no.

Had E46, all rubber parts where rotting away while everything made of plastics became brittle as glass.

Now have shitty euro ford focus and plastics/rubber is very good.

>>16640525
>more than 3 years old
I found your problem.
I work on only newer vehicles so I wouldn't know about your poorfag shit.

>>16640533
>Having to work on 3 years old vehicle

That's what I'm trying to say you

>>16637878
>JD power

Kill yourself

>>16638009
burgers have no idea what that is

>>16640497
How can you find that out?

>>16638249
>what is BMW N47
it's a 10 year old engine discontinued years ago.

>>16639042
according to that graph german cars still do have decent reliability.

>>16640628

Nah man, my E46 was German and everything was still falling apart.

Only had one american car - Chrysler Stratus, think those are actually Dodge in US? I know this car is not known as most reliable in US but I had much better luck with it than BMW.

>>16640644
Holy fuck I've had both cars too, the Chrysler Stratus (owned 2 of them) was a horribly unreliable shitbox that drank tons of fuel.
I've owned 4 E46's so far, they had minor problems such as worn suspension bushings.

>>16640633
>discontinued

No you delusional faggot it's still produced and used even on Mini models.

Also it doesn't matter if it's 10 years old because it has been proven to been reliable for years...but memeability charts for faggots don't report that, I wonder why.

Also Tesla NEVER appears in said charts. Gee how's that possible?

>>16640684
*it has been proved to be unreliable

>>16640684
You retard the N47 has stopped production in 2014. Get your shit straight before calling others out fucktard.

>>16637878
>>16639333
My mom's 2015 Mazda 3 has died on her like three times haha. Infotainment system fucks up too. Zoom zoom!

>>16640669

No problems yet changed E46 4 times?

Don't know man, car that I drove most of my life was Civic and I only needed to buy it once.

>>16640636

Average reliability != "Superior German Engineering"

It's average engineering + most expensive parts. So basically a money pit to own. Wow, thanks Krautcucks!

>>16637878
>Fiat more reliable then Nissan or Ford.

How?

>>16637841
Last time I checked they are designed to last 10years
>at 10k km a year
>lifetime of a new car is 100k km
And I guess that they are breaking right when they are supposed to is good engineering, not customer friendly but good

>>16639042
>>16637878
Based Porsche

>>16638048
Probably both

>>16640712
I get bored of cars quick.
I've also bought cars for cheap to resell them.
I just turned 21 and I've owned 10 cars so far

>>16640784
Superior in terms of luxury and driving pleasure they bring
It is worth spending some extra money to drive a superior german machine with a good design not some redneck garbage.

>>16640897
>Superior in terms of luxury

Absolutely not. Jap cars are nicer

>and driving pleasure

Get a sport model of a Jap car and it's the same thing desu

Only thing Germans offer is full size daily drivers in manual, which America/Japan has given up on.

>>16639042
RAM should say CUMMINS

>>16640525
>tfw every time i take apart my dash it goes back together with fewer and fewer plastic clips holding it together

>>16640948
>jap cars are more luxurious
>certain people on /o/ actually believe this
christ.

>>16640991
manlets

>>16640991

You're telling me a BMW is more luxurious than a Lexus? Are you delusional?

>>16641068
>BMW
Try Mercedes you teenager

>>16641068
Nicest materials used:
>Audi
>Merc
>Lexus
>BMW
>Acura
>Infiniti

Feel free to rearrange.

>>16641104
>audi
>first in anything
lol

>>16641107
>actually thinks 3-Series is more luxurious than an A4
Lol

>>16641157
>actually thinks a VW with extra leather deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Mercedes, BMW or Lexus
lol

>>16640636
Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and VW are all in the bottom half. The only reliable German manufacturer is Porsche.

>>16641068
3 series is on par with lexus IS
5 series is more luxurious than GS
7 series is more luxurious than LS

>>16641104
>Audi anywhere near the top

>>16641230
And Mitsubishi is near the top. Didn't stop me from spending $2000 on a $3000 on a Lancer I only owned for a year

God what a piece of shit that car was

>>16641268
Well, someone has to get unlucky anon.

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>>16641246
>3 series is on par with lexus IS

Spotted the delusional faggot at its best.

3 Series has plastic everywhere, also has some very luxurious details such as seats rails completely exposed while the IS, as all the Lexus, has them covered.

Do you want to talk about cabin's acoustic isolation?

>you won't

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100% premium

>DAT DAKOTA LEATHER made from scraps

>>16640497
>Look at BMW or VW by manufacturing country and the German made ones have much better reliability than the US or Mexican ones.
South Carolina BMWs had some of the lowest defects of all of BMWs manufacturing. Mexico is shit though.

The nation with the best manufacturing record is Finland.

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>>16641385
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>>16641373
Lmao what?
Is this shit supposed to be ''better''?

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>>16641480
That center console is 2001 - nissan maxima tier, holy fuck how do you even defend this?

>>16641428
>>16641385
And BMW is not even supposed to be the ''most luxurious'' German brand, tried to cherrypick but the ''most luxurious'' jap brand isn't even near the mid-range BMW in terms of luxury.

>>16639042
Based lexus. But how is kia higher than hyundai when they use the same powertrains? My wifes hyundai even has kia and hyundai markings on some of the parts

>>16641660
They have a couple of different models completely exclusive to each brand that affects the average. To me, that suggests Hyundai was probably already a high 3 bordering on 4.

>>16641480
>>16641496

It's surely better made.

t. a faggot defending a car that has the same gauges and console since 40 years

>>16641480
>>16641496

Besides the analogue clock, I like it better than the new X1 my family has...

>>16637878
>as rated by faggots who repair their vehicles at mechanics.

They're built with the idea that routine maintenance will be strictly adhered to... which it's usually not after a few years if you're not German.

>>16638738
If he was going for guys, they might spot the difference. Women don't know the difference between a door and a gas pedal.

>>16637841
At least you Burgers don't have to deal with French engineering,working on those cars is a fucking nightmare.

>>16641190
>thinks Audi isn't luxurious simply because VW exists

>tfw gm will never put another ls engine in a car that isn't a hilarious plastic bath tub.

>>16641190
>He thinks Lexus has better interiors than Audi

Shit on VAG all you want but Lexus has been pumping out some bland ass Lincoln Town Car tier interiors for the last 15 years.

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I've owned German cars for the last 16 years. never had any issues. You guys read forums too much. People only post about problems on the internet. I wouldn't buy any car if I relied on auto forums..

>>16643219
Genius of the 4.2 is in its simplicity. All these cucks pushing the 3.0T... LOL

>>16643219
>>16643426
Are those 4.2s reliable? I've heard of people swapping Audi V8s into Boxsters because they bolt right up to the transaxles