I'm going to drive from my house in Key West and go on a

>>16636715
the only sensible answer is the only GT on there, the 911.

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If dubs, AMC Eagle.

>>16636740
the problem i have with the 911 though is that its a european car on an american road trip

2 lincoln town cars welded together like a train
think of all the cargo space and all the bodies you can hide

>>16636745
Damn the file size.

>buying a $200,000 car just to get to Prudhoe Bay
>when google maps clearly states a plane ticket only costs $2,000

Are you stupid or something? Prudhoe Bay isn't even that nice a place.

>>16636715
either of the first two, whatever you prefer style wise.

I drove from Palm Springs to Indianapolis& back in a 10' vette....absolutely miserable experience. I doubt you'd make it to the Canadian border without regretting the fuck out of choosing a viper. My two cents.

>>16636768
arent corvettes supposed to be comfy?

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1965 Comet, also don't be such a pussy, go from Ushuaia, Argentina to Fairbanks in 40 days
http://thackerspeed.com/2014/09/07/a-comet-tale/

stop making threads you alfa romeo shills kindly fuck off

>>16636772
pppfffffff. let me tell you about the refinement of corvettes in general, they're so bad that on older gens the corvette crowd considers fiero seats an update.

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>>16636715
>spending 200k on a car for a roadtrip
>going through all the shittiest states just to end up in a shitty town

Seek the help of a doctor OP.

>>16636893
muh california

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>>16636715
take the greyhound bus they have wifi now a days :^)

>>16637054
Are you trying to say that Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois are better than Cali and the southwest in general. Because they arent m8. kek

>>16636715
Giulia or the 9/11

>>16636715
>I'm going to drive from my house in Key West and go on a multi thousand mile road trip until i end up in Prudhoe Bay
Teenagers daydreamer self-entitled milksops like you are unauthorized to get onto the road into Prudhoe. It's a regulated area.

If you're going that far, why not add a couple thousand miles and a few days and drive up the pacific coast highway? It would be a whole lot more fun than just going on the freeway the whole time.

>>16637381
This.

>muh road trip
>goes on freeways the entire time
You'll never see anything of value like this. Small town life is what makes America great.

>>16637381
Thats not the route im taking, its a visual representation of a roadtrip, not the exact route i want to take

Ignoring that you aren't actually going to do this, taking a 500hp+ sports car on a 5,000 mile roadtrip is stupid. No matter what route you're going to take it will involve long stints on mostly straight roads, not ripping HEKTIK SKIDZ every thirty seconds. Literally any large sedan or SUV will work.

>>16637972
>taking a 500hp+ sports car on a 5,000 mile roadtrip is stupid
wrong

hilux

>>16638021
nice rebuttal

I own a GTR and would recommend a 911 turbo, or the R

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>Driving the Dalton Highway in a car

>>16638076
faggots do that shit in scooters

>>16636715
>Prudhoe Bay on the Arctic Ocean.
There is no public road to the bay. You'll have to get permission from the oil company to drive to the bay.

>>16638174
They don't have windshields.

>>16638178
that's not hard they give tours for a few bucks

>>16638076
Drove up in 2015, you really don't need anything serious for it - just a couple of potholes and it gets a bit muddy in some places.

>>16638194
$69 to drive like 5 miles, sit you on a dirt strip of beach in a bay for 30 mins - fucking extortion

>>16636715
its the iciest motherfucker in alaska dude, all those cars you mentioned would start shitting themselves once you got north of vancouver

>>16636715
LMAO roadtripping a Viper for 5500 miles

I did a cross country trip this past summer in a ZJ Jeep and I had enough by the end of it. That was only 1800 miles too

>>16636754
It's not about the destination.

>>16638404
This entire thing is retarded

>>16638421
This. OP you're a sped.


Also drop top 55 caddy with a blown LS.

Just rug up.

>>16636715

I did 1300 miles in a fiesta st back in December. Honestly wasn't that bad, just slow assholes in the left lane is was made it miserable.

But to answer your question, I would go with something along the lines of a used continental GT

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>>16638421
>"hello i like driving and big road trips with interesting cars"
>"fucking idiot take the plane instead, youre so fucking stupid"

/o/

>>16638436
why would you do highway driving in a fiesta st?
take back roads instead and look for space away from major highways

>>16638436
I needed to be somewhere in 1 day, no time for back roads.

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>>16636715

My trip is better than yours

>>16636715
are you going alone OP? let me tag along, ill bring my van

lol I did VA to central AK in a Saturn ion.

Frost heaves are no joke on the Alcan. I wouldn't want a super low car.

Also when I was on my trip 87 octane was $4/gallon, but I didn't realize that Canada charged by the liter. So that was a bit costly.

Leave in may.

>>16636715
you need to get a convertible is what you need to do

911 Targa or Corvette Stingray (which I believe also has a targa top)

>>16636715
911 GT3RS the AWD will save your ass

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>>16636715
Diesel S Class

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>>16638556

>>16636715
a subaru of some sort

cheap to fix and easy to maintain

anything else is stupid

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>>16636715
Listen up son, I've driven from Orlando to Anchorage and all around Alaska. In a 2003 Mustang GT 5spd with 47k miles. It took 10 days of driving 10-12 hours a day. Sometimes a little more but at least 10. It was around $800 in gas, dozens of stops, an oil change, and right around 5,200 miles. The route we took was Going from Orlando, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, British Colombia and then into Juneau Alaska and then into Yukon and back in Alaska again. You will need a fuck ton of food because gas station food gets expensive. We drove in April 2016 so it was pretty chilly but tolerable. Bring lots of water, wet wipes, tools in case shit happens ( nothing happened to my car ), tire plugs, chains, shovels, jerry can, compass and maps oh my god maps man. A fuck ton of maps. We spent a good amount of money on maps. You don't have signal ANYWHERE in the countryside. The only way to guide you is be alert of maps and your compass and know the route. A wrong turn into the wrong road will cost you a lot of time. Some of our wrong turns were good though. We took a wrong turn for 4 hours and saw GREAT scenery in British Colombia until we found out how to get to the Alaskan border.

Anyways, ask me anything. If you're curious, I sold the car as a Florida car for $2200 more than what I paid for it in Anchorage and then flew back home with my buddy.

>>16637924
Still doesn't explain why you can't fucking see the Pacific coast highway

>>16636754
>>16638421
>>16638433
Why are you on /o/? Road trips are fun as fuck. Live your dream OP. I say porsche 911 s because dat butt.

>also

>>16638474
This.

a comfy van obviously

>>16638819
when there are big stretches without gas stations do you fill up jerry cans and keep them in the trunk or on the roof of the car or was range not really an issue?

>>16639252
We actually only used it once. And that was to go fuck around in the interior of AK. We didn't really need it but we kept it full then just in case.

Not on the roof. The last thing you want is potential hail penetrating the can and having your car reek of gas forever.

>>16636715
all black 1998 Volvo s70 glt

or the hellcat, as long as it's black

do it on a scooter

>>16638556
why dont you drive through the center of austraillia?

>>16636715
Why not the '93 Corolla you actually own?

I'll give you the best advice but only if you show me your "wanderlust" ankle tattoo

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>It would take less miles to go through Arizona
>Yet the same amount of time

wat

>>16638556
I always wanted to buy a car in straya and go for an offroad adventure

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This program is retarded. Or too smart for it's own good.

>>16638049
What u said is completely subjective, so you may not be wrong but you're sure as fuck not right

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I'm gonna go with 'retarded.'

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There you go. PCH adds 1500-2,000 miles and 35 hours.

>>16639893
What is traffic you moron.

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>>16636715
Get the most comfortable station wagon 200k can buy, so you can bring plenty of shit and sleep in it when necessary.

Viper for the memes.
But seriously the Viper.

>>16638756
Winrar

>>16638756
Winrar

>>16636715
Buy a bloody camper van you fatlard.

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>>16636715
You're going to die anon.

There's nothing beyond Fairbanks. The towns aren't actual towns, they are little portable shacks set up by some rocks for research, some of the roads aren't paved and/or are icey as hell, and I'd be surprised if there were even gas stations let alone pit shops.

The absolute most hilarious thing is that the Hellcat is your top choice for this trip. Fuckton of torque RWD on icey roads. Sub 20mpg. Fairbanks to Prudhoe Bay is 500 miles one way. Good luck. Hope there's gas along the way (don't hold your breath for 93). Also barely any space for supplies. And where the fuck you gonna sleep? Prudhoe Bay isn't a town, it's an oil station.

You're gonna die anon.

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>>16640912
Here's one of the "towns" along the way. Oh god my fucking sides if this autie goes through with it.

Hope you bring a reserve fuel tank, a sat phone, a gun, plenty of food among other supplies. You gonna need it.

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>>16640923
my fucking sides the final stretch is gonna kill him especially after putting 5000 miles on whatever car he gets a few days prior.

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>>16638756
seconded

>>16636715
If you're going to do the haul road up to deadhorse get a van or something.

>>16640912
There's gas in Coldfoot, then 250 miles of nothing until deadhorse. Also it's not typically icy there in the summer, except occasionally over atigun pass. There are a couple small motel things in deadhorse.

I was planning to ride to deadhorse next year on my motorcycle but life got in the way.

>>16640952
>Next year
Fuck it's 2017 already, was gonna do it June-July of this year

>>16636739
I just took a road trip in my 991.1 and I have to say it's a great around town sportscar, but on road trips it's not very comfortable. The seating position and the seats are pretty hard, and I even have the 18 ways.

>>16640912
>>16640923
>>16640936
these roads look better than 99% of what I drive on

t. russian

>>16638178
You can't drive to the bay at all, you pay a ridiculous sum, like $70 I think to go on a monitored trip to the bay.

>>16640923
Yeah, seems like a pickup truck with saddle tanks is the way to go.

>>16640985
I just paid like 25 bucks worth of tolls just to go down the damn turnpike in Florida, 70 bucks isn't that bad.

>>16636715
First of all, those all sound like they'd be hell to spend 186 hours in, not including anywhere you go on the way. Get something cheap and comfy so you have more money to be not driving here and there.

>>16636748
You'll spend more time in Canada than America from the looks of it.

>>16637084
>I've never been outside of Cali

>>16637389
You've obviously never driven through MN or WI. Granted, WI is heavily freeway from the looks of that map, but there's plenty to see on the way. The Minnesota leg has virtually zero freeway.

>>16637972
>>16638049
>Having a fast car on straight roads allowing you to go fast is stupid.

Words, idk. I walked away and lost interest in the thread as a whole.

>>16641031
Technically Canada is part of North America the continent

>>16641030
Well that sucks about the tolls but this is $70 for them to shuttle you a couple miles and stand in the sand for a few minutes.

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>>16640952
>was planning to ride to deadhorse next year on my motorcycle
>ride to deadhorse next year on my motorcycle
>motorcycle
>motorcycle
>motorcycle

Oh god. RL isn't /o/ anon. Mother nature is incredibly unforgiving. I realize that deadhorse hit 85F the past summer but you can't rely on that. Cold fronts set in even during the summer. One summer, the temperature hit sub 30Fs. Then you could get a lot of rain. Then you need to remember even thou Alaska is USA it's still outside of civilization, the middle of nowhere ESPECIALLY when you go north of fairbanks. Any type of problem - tire blowout, dead battery, highway robbery, fucking grizzly bears - and you are stuck dealing with it yourself. I don't even know if triple A will drive that far out.

When you watch all these top gear / grand tour roadtrips (which pale in comparison to what you want to do), you realize they bring 5 or more range rovers loaded with supplies, bodyguards, and auto repair professionals, right? And it's not just 500 miles to Prudhoe Bay. It's 1000 miles there and back. A lot of risk for anything to go wrong anon. I'm with you in the sense that this would be an extremely cool trip but you need to plan it a whole lot better. And have a bunch of money too.

If I did it, I'd bring at least 3 other friends. 2 cars - both range rovers diesels fully serviced in fairbanks. Extended full tanks, extra spare tires, first aid, hunting rifles, MREs, sat phones, a bunch of other shit not coming to mind.

You have a deadwish if you want to go on a motorcycle by yourself.

>>16636774
>dat Darien gap tho
Almost possible, too lazy to click link. I know 2 guys who did exactly that but on big BMW bikes.

>>16639775
no roads there
>>16636715
1st gen vw type 2

911
1
1

It's an amazing touring car.

>>16641031
There's a difference between a sports car and a GT. Take the latter.

>>16636715
do it in a fucking range rover sport or merc g63 or ford raptor still fun to drive but can actually get you out of bad spots

>>16641019
Minimum. I think the 2017 RAM gets the best MPG at 24 highway.... but that doesn't mean you will get 24mpg. With all the supplies and copilots you hauling around, high teens at best. The Ram has 30 gallon fuel tank, so that's roughly 600 miles (which you won't see). Probably get 500 miles which is almost the entire distance one way. What if you reach that gas station in deadhorse and the attendant is all like "sorry we out of gas." GG. Gotta turn around and go home or wait til the tanker comes around.

Also, where is he gonna sleep? I doubt he'll make the entire 1000 mile trip there and back in one day. Gotta pull over and make a tent. Gets cold at night anon, let's make a fire. Fires attract wild animals. Don't forget to bring a rifle or gun. etc

Again this is a cool idea but don't go into it unprepared especially on a damn motorcycle or hellcat (which is a fun car but not the right car to take).

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>>16641117
Well, there are people who go on much crazier motorcycle trips alone, but that anon doesn't sound qualified.

>>16638556
>implying that land mass is real
I see through your deception and photoshop skills
What country did you shoop to make it look like this "australia"?

https://www.adn.com/environment/article/alaskas-summer-weather-very-hot-very-cold-very-wet/2014/10/01/

Summer in Alaska 2014:
>Sixty-five inches fell there this summer, near twice what's normal. That's about 5 1/2 feet of rain, or an average of about half an inch of rain per day every day all summer.

>Glennallen experienced freezing conditions at least once every month of summer, the weather service reported. It was the first time in the last 16 years that June, July and August had all seen the thermometer dip to 32 or colder.

Good luck

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>>16641173
Exactly.

Just because someone climbed Everest before doesn't mean it's safe for everyone to climb all of a sudden.

For a real properly equipped expedition, it should be no problem but this fool wants to take a HELLCAT. A HELLCAT. Someone else talking about bringing their motorcycle. MY SIDES. Yah lemme just climb Everest real quick in my bathing suit.

>>16641168
I guess it depends on how big the saddle tanks are. But, maybe a camper top also with an electric heater. Although not sure how saddle tanks AND a camper top would work. Plus the camper tops weigh a lot, unless someone makes a carbon fiber & foam core one or something.

This is clearly a hypothetical. If you have 200 kUSD at disposal you're not gonna give a fuck what some poorfags on a [Malaysian] [butterfly-catching] [forum] think about your choices.

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>>16641168
A pickup truck is a pretty shit option for below zero conditions because all food and water that you didn't put in the cab will freeze. Usually people prefer modded SUVs with roof racks.

>>16636754
get back to /n/ you piece of shit busrider

>>16637972
I bet you're going to say get an autotragic as well

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>>16641117
Thousands of people ride there every summer on motorcycles bruh. You can be scared of the world if you want but I'm happier exploring a bit.

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>>16641201
Look at this madman. My god

>>16640936
>>16640923
>>16640912
these roads are fucking great, you don't even need studded tyres for that shit.
and
>thinking torque helps with ice
I'll rek ur hellcat in a daewoo nexia u dumb redneck

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>>16641201
Suicidal, I tell ya!

>>16641264
Yah I agree. Was pointing out why a truck wasn't as good as an SUV. My first pick was a Range Rover diesel. About 30mpg highway. Fuel tank is 27 gallons. That's a range of 800 miles max. With a reserve fuel tank, it could make the trip there and most of the way back without refueling plus keep the food warm on the inside plus it's comfy.

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>>16641201
Alright the scooter guys are actually pretty crazy

>>16641299
>those roads are fucking great.
No they aren't.

Ever wonder why the roads in the south are better on average than in the north? What is the season freeze-thaw cycle? Anywhere with a lot of snow and ice, it's gonna cause more wear n tear, potholes, and cost more money to fix.

Dalton highway:
>The road itself is mostly gravel, very primitive in places, and small vehicle and motorcycle traffic carries significant risk. The nearest medical facilities are in Fairbanks and Deadhorse. Anyone embarking on a journey on the Dalton is encouraged to bring survival gear.

Pick one:
-good roads
-gravel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalton_Highway

Sidenote: They also tell you to bring survival gear while OP wants to bring his boyfriend's hellcat.

>>16641339
>414 miles long
>As of July 2013, 109 miles (175 km) of the highway are paved, in several sections, between the following mileages: 19 and 24; 37 and 50; 91 and 111; 113 and 197; 257 and 261; 344 and 352; and 356 and 361.

KEK

>>16636715
You don't really need a Hellcat (nobody really does) but I'd def take a challenger on a long trip, suggesting the scat pack. It's comfy AF as a long haul cruiser and has lots of space compared to any other sports car. Fun to drive and looks gud.

>>16636754
/n/

>he buys passenger tickets to get places

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>>16641339
>Recent flooding of the Sagavanirktok River, combined with melting of nearby ice roads under warmer climatic conditions have forced weeks-long closures of the road and the need for significant repairs, costing several million US dollars.[8][9][10][11]
>weeks long closures
>weeks

>>16641310
>Range Rover
Too fiddly. Maybe only if it's an older RR retrofitted with a sturdy spring suspension. I don't think I've ever saw someone outfit a RR for a long trip outside civilization, it's always simpler cars like Patrols or older LCs.

>>16640936
Those mountains look beautiful.

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>>16641419
Brooks range nigga

>>16636715
So close to affording a Bentayga.

>>16641465
who would actually want one of those though

they look like shit

>>16641469
Looks shit but speed and comfort is undeniable. It would be sick on this entire road trip. You're gonna be in the car the whole time anyway so you won't have to look at it. Also ground clearance and awd can save u in a sticky situation

>>16636715
Just get an airplane ticket

>>16640282
idk man I used the same program to plan a trip from Phoenix to Seattle and it's drive time estimate was spot on.
Probably because it assumes 65MPH and I drove 80 for at least half the trip.

So assuming traffic you can add ~2.5 hours per 24 at 65MPH. Or about 9.68 more hours total.

But you can't ignore the number of miles. Less miles at the same speed=less time. And I bet OP wouldn't drive 65 through the lower 48 and Canada :)

>>16641469

>basing your opinion of a car purely on how it looks
Are you a woman?

>>16642683
>paying 300,000 for a car you dont want to be seen in or look at

>>16642683
wat

>>16638756

I drive a Diesel E Class (W211). It is fucking perfect for road trips. I can only imagine the S Class would be that much better.

>>16642672
i'd love to see OP drive 400 miles through gravel at 65mph

>>16642737
you seem bitter about something

>>16641435

Dude, you're fucking selling me. I want to do this shit.

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>>16642742
>gas guzzling sports car 5 inches off the ground
>800 miles of deserted gravel with only one gas station along the way
>"i think this road trip will end up well."

>>16642766
Pick up a bike and ride up with me next year kek.

Or take a car and be my spares crew

>>16642810
anybody could drive that route with a car they bought for $500

fucking mopeds do that shit every year

muh gravel

>>16642871
You've never driven a sports car on gravel before... have you?

>>16641030
>turnpike in florida.
y

>>16641061
>Technically Canada is part of North America the continent
Yeah yeah, you got me.

>>16636715
rally spec celica gt-four

>>16636772
Not for more than an hour, they're not.

>>16642723
>>16638756
>all dat low end torque for overtaking
>stupid good mileage
>lots of range
>supremely comfy
>bullet proof drive train

Not to mention that diesel is dirt cheap when driving through Canada and you can hit up truck stops

>>16644752
The diesels are also AWD and you can jack the car up to at least CUV heights if not more with the push of a button

>>16636715
i'd be impressed if you made that whole drive without getting into an accident

The road to Prudhoe bay is treacherous as fuck. I'd do Fairbanks and call it good. Also, when you're going through Canada I would HIGHLY recommend entering through northern Washington and driving the cassiar highway. You will never see more beautiful scenery in North America..... I live in Alaska and was blown away by the natural beauty in BC.

Also, dont do a super spendy car it will get fucked up. I drove a WRX from Anchorage to little Rock Arkansas this summer and the front lip was definitely missing some paint by the time I got there. Also take a sedan. Coupes gives you no room for supplies

>>16640912
You from Alaska anon?

>>16636715
for some of the trip I see you've taken a bad route in KY.

I suggest you go from Atlanta to Knoxville to Lexington to Louisville to Indianapolis to Chicago.

That area is beautiful. Western Ky and TN are garbage. Go drive in some majestic Appalachian scenery. The part of I-75 on north TN as it enter KY is the highest elevation for I-75.

>>16645171
Seconding Fairbanks and done. If you really wanna see the ocean, just go to Seward instead.

meh, I'd rather take a truck up, if you want tow a track car.

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>>16636715
talking about roadtrips

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>>16646250
almost 20k with this turd

>>16644767
>at least CUV heights
You have 100 mm of clearance normally. AIRMATIC only gives you another 25 mm when you raise it up.

>>16638556
Are there no roads to stop you going back on yourself. I would at least try to find another route to take if the roads are not horrible.

Why the fuck does it take 20 hours to get from Florida to Alaska?

>inb4 great spheres

Doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>16636715
any of those cars (especially alfa) will freeze, get stuck in the snow, break suspension or something else, you don't know how bad alaskan weather and roads are
better take something with long suspension travel and proper tyres

>>16647278
it's not a single nonstop flight
one of the listings showed at least 3 connections

I wonder if they have prostitutes in Deadhorse and what kind.

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>>16638556
Who is down for this?

>>16639950
If you get out to the coast why the fuck would you get away from it?

>>16647458
there's no money that will make me go through fucking angola and the rest of africa

>>16636715

Viper did pretty good offroad on Roadkill.

Truckerfag here......if I had 200K to spend on some wheels, I'd get a fucking 87' Kenworth K104 cabover with a stretch sleeper and Detroit V12 and twin turbos because why the fuck not, and blow the remaining 100k on the trip. It has 200 gallon fuel capacity and runs on diesel which is everywhere. You'll be able to drive through entire Canadian territories without filling up. You'll already have storage compartments for all the shit you will actually need without cluttering the interior, tons of torque and it will get as good or better fuel mileage than most of those cars you listed.

For even 75K you can find a really cherry one with all that shit already on it and with an extended sleeper that you could actually fucking live in I've seen a few on the road with sleepers the size of a small house.

If you write "Not For Hire" on the side you're exempt from all the bullshit jew taxes we deal with, and best of all when you come back you can make money hauling shit with it or flip it and get your money back.

You don't even need a CDL to drive it you just need to add air brakes to your current Florida DL (I'm Floridian)

If you do the trip you almost have to do the 101 up the Pacific Coast I did that run on load and it changed my life forever.

>>16647458
>No Pamir Highway
No thanks

>>16647472
You'd rather go through Sudan than Angola?

>>16636715

I suggest you alter your trip plan so you pass through BC. It's a stunning place to drive through. Right now you're just going to be passing through loads of prairie.

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>>16636715

for that long of a road trip, I'd get something that has

>max comfy, something you can sleep in if you have to
>can handle any type of extreme weather/terrain you might have to drive through
>huge fuel tank
>have all the above and still goes fast

i'd either choose a G-wagon AMG or Cayenne Turbo

>>16647458
>25,000km trip
>drive 26km
>get car jacked at stop sign
>walk home

>>16647458
>not driving through egypt alongside the nile

although that route through Sinai is literally impossible, there's no ferry to cross like that, you have to go around the aqaba bay

>>16637084
The states you listed are free and capitalistic while the tyrannical regime of the left known as California is not.

Get out of our union you slimy communist bastards.

>>16647954
>illinois
>free
>capitalistic

>>16648229
>>>16647458
Spain to Vladivostok is 100% paved highway and only requires one visa if you go through Lithuania and Latvia instead of Belarus, but I don't think you can go through Africa like that at all.

>>16637084
>California
>better than Georgia and Tennessee
lol

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>>16641128

>>16637084
>most poverty
>most crime
>highest taxes
>most wasteful spending
>highest drug and alcohol consumption
>shitty dense cities

Look, no matter how far you look, you gotta face that California is the asshole of America

>>16649616
Ever notice that flyover states butthurt about California sound exactly like Europeans butthurt about America?

>>16649625
Ever notice how all people from California are annoying attention whores

Case in point
>tripfag

>>16646255
Holy shit. That's amazing. Got any stories?

New Carrera 4S is all you need,its fast enough (420 HP) , available in manual,decent mileage and comfortable.

>>16649639
lel enjoy your shit-tier state, california is the GOAT state

>>16650226
California is nice to visit on vacation. Would never live there ever again.

>>16647459
Because the program I'm using is pants-on-head retarded.

See >>16639966 and >>16639990

>>16649616
>>16649625
Once you get out of the cities, California is alright.

I remember seeing a couple 'STOP OBAMA' signs when i went through on the way to Washington, and a huge 'WELCOME TO THE STATE OF JEFFERSON' somewhere on the I5 in the north end of the state.

I'd live there if the politics weren't so retarded

>>16647657
You're forgetting reliability. 4Runner or Land Cruiser.

>>16650675
No, it's not. The stage government as a whole is fucking terrible, and making a living in California is downright impossible. There's a reason there's a massive emigration issue among California young adults.

>>16650784
>I'd live there if the politics weren't so retarded

>>16636715
Lincoln Continental Black Label

>Comfy as fuck
>Roomy as fuck
>American Made (easy to fix if some shit happens in the middle of nowhere).

>>16649625
I just wish they would stay in thier shit hole and quit moving to Oregon.

>>16649625
California would be great if not for all the people fucking it up.