Fresh out of college, making 65000$/year, need a new car. I'm

>>16627096
man if you think depreciation is bad wait until you own an audi that requires constant servicing

>best babbys first sports car
miata/brz and stfu

I can't believe burgers can finish tertiary education and still have no idea how to manage their finances

>>16627096
>european cars

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>>16627096
>buying an overpriced VW

Really nigger?

>>16627096
just get the new civic si when it's finally released
>215-250 hp, 0-60 near/under 6 seconds
>active suspension and steering
>lsd
>heated seats, moonroof, apple carplay/android auto
>not too heavy, around 3k lbs for sedan
>sweat honda gearbox
>~25k USD
my only concern is reliability if they stick with the 1.5T engine and just boost the hell out of it, but should be the best combination of fun/practical/cheap you can get

>>16627096
Fuck off. You're not a real enthusiast.

don't listen to any of the memes
any car will be good and reliable when it's new or taken care of with a few exceptions
just buy a slightly used one with low miles,2-3 years old tops

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>>16627164

I said I liked the looks. I was hoping you all could recommend some nice used vehicles instead of jumping in an buying a new piece of shit.

My finances are just

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>>16627096
>I enjoy the looks of the audis

>>16627096
fiesta st
focus rs
gt86
/thread

>>16627226

>fiesta st
abhorrent looks

>focus rs
Not going to drop 35.000 on that

>gt86
Looks good

>>16627254
you have a lot to learn before you earn the title "Car Enthusiast"

>>16627096
You could possibly afford a $20k 2014 CPO ATS if you want a relatively sporty entry level luxury car. I would recommend actually starting work before buying a car to make sure that you have a steady income.

>>16627274
>le "real car enthusiast" gatekeeper
cringe

>>16627184
Fwd

Kek

>>16627096
Buy two. One to wrench on and one to use as a DD

>>16627226
>Fiesta
>Focus

Get out

>>16627303
I'm waiting for an argument

>>16627282
I've been working since last June saving up.

>>16627096
>Audi
>inexpensive
>kek

Try a used Japanese enthusiast platform that is semi-decent. Like a G-series Infiniti or some sort of Lexus like an LS400 of some sort or GS350.

>>16627374
What do you drive now?

>>16627425
98 Saturn SL1

miata

you'll always find something to spend money on even if the car is fine.

>>16627437
with his attitude I don't think he'd really enjoy a miata for what it is

>>16627436
Just get a Lexus is350 before 2013 or gs350

>>16627410
Bumping for G series. Perfect for OPs non-enthusiast nigger-tier tastes.

>>16627096
Don't buy any car you can't afford to buy twice.

>>16627096
do what literally everyone else in your situation does and buy a cpo bmw. you can pretend to be a 'car guy' and enjoy showing off your 'ultimate driving experience' badgemobile all while being gently caressed by all the italian leather and fake wood your student loans and meager yet vaguely respectable salary will let you.

>>16627679
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>>16627096
If I were you, newer mustang gt or camaro ss or a used 911 is what I would get.

>>16627096
Buy a 5th gen SS camaro.

>>16627096
2017 civic

>>16627254
>getting a focus rs for $35000

lmao in your wildest fucking dreams dork

>>16627303
Literally nothing wrong with FWD.
>B-BUT MUH RWD PURISM
Shut the fuck up.

>>16627835
Over about 250hp FWD is traction limited. There is nothing wrong with FWD in a commuter econobox that doesn't come close to its limits, but once you start trying to put power down, torque steer, wheel hop, and understeer are hard to fight.

If you want an Audi get an Audi. Ignore the spastic anti VAG droolers on this board. Any quality German or Japanese car of a recent year will need parts and maint, what a guy said earlier is a good rule, if you buy a $20K used car be prepared to put that much into it over the life of the car to keep it properly running.

For that much you could pick up a recent A4 with a 3.2 or even an A6 if you want to go a year or two older.

>>16627885
Is that why the Civic destroys RWD cars on the burgerking

>>16627096

2.3t mustang.

Don't hate.

Looks good, smooth drive, decent mpk sick interior. warranty 50000mile

Not much to mod on it, obviously not as fast as a 5.0. Uh... not awd. But those are the only cons i can think of.

Just get rid of it after 40k should last you 2-3years and the style is timeless.

>>16627096
>'m not much of a car guy
>but I want to be one now
>What are some good entry level car enthusiast vehicles
anything with a manual

>>16627164
You're not too bright if that's actually what you believe, mate.

>>16628358
This guy put it very well.

>>16628358
>recent A4 with a 3.2 or even an A6 if you want to go a year or two older.

Where do you live that Audi still offers an A4 with a 3.2 L? Not in the North American market unless your definition of recent is a vehicle from 2011.

>>16628359

Not him, but what comparably priced sporty RWD cars do new Civics beat?

E9X M3

Decently reliable
Insanely fun to drive
25-35k gets you a decent specimen
40K+ gets you a low mile babbyd machine

>>16628538
You're not too bright if you actually believe that audi is any good at all.

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>>16627096
I'm in the same spot but I'd like to work on my car and do light mods. Still not 100% on what I want but these are the things I'd like
>fast and/or fun
>moderately reliable
>practical (cargo space, roof rack, bike rack)
>manual

3rd gen WRX hatch or Mazda3 hatch seem to be my best options.. are there any I'm overlooking?

Get a GTI faggot

>>16632065
Get an unmolested speed3 and molest it. Makes more whp more reliably mod for mod vs a WRX/STi/Focus.

MK7 GTI's can make more power than a speed 3 but lack of LSD becomes an actual issue when you're pushing 300+ to the front wheels. And the stock GTI clutch sucks balls. Newest WRX's can make about the same power as MS3, maybe a tad more, but considerably more expensive.

Intake + hpfp internal + tmic/dp/2nd cat delete/cat back (pick at least 3 of those 4) and a good tune will get you ~280 whp/320 tq on 93 and ~310 whp/340 tq on E85 (+/- 10 depending on environment).

And a $1250 BNR turbo kit + meth or E85 on a fully bolted car will raise you to 390 whp/380 wtq. Good luck getting that on any of the above cars. Stock MS3 blocks/clutches/transmission/diffs are reliably holding that power for 80,000+ miles.

>muh fiesta, STI, Miata, FRS/BRZ
Fartcan riceboxes are for people still in highschool/college OP. Get a Corvette, or a Mustang if you want more than 2 seats. If you want something fun but more practical than a car, get a 6.2 Silverado or a 5.0 F-150. Ram 2500 Cummins if you want a diesel.

Lexus IS 300h

Jaguar XF

>>16627096

Ford mustang boss 302, gt 5.0, or a gt350

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>>16632078
This.
Clubsport S is the shit