I am about to spend 16.900€ (eurofag here) on a gorgeous Alfa 159 JTDm 2.0 with 170cv...
Please taught me out of it!
as long as it has the Ti trim, do it.
>>16486455
Elaborate please....Ti trim?
>>16486450
>Alfa Romeo
Awes-
>JTD diesel
run.
petrol or no Alfa for you. Diesel completely ruins the car.
>>16486462
TI is a trim level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_159#Year_by_year_changes
>>16486462
Its a styling pack, red stitching and such. Just looks nicer. 2.4jtd is best because the q4 is rare as fuck but the 2.0 diseasel is good too.
>>16486463
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_159#Year_by_year_changes
Yes!! continue that, I should not spend money on this non-sense...but it is still an amazing car
>>16486463
This is true
>>16486463
Bullshit, the 2.4 diesel is awesome, easy remap for an extra 40 hires and 350+ ft-lb of torque with 50mpg.
>>16486480
What about the 2.0 diesel?
>>16486450
>that much
>for a used non-classic Alfa
Not worth it
>>16486450
For that kind of money you cat get 2 of them. One for spares.
>>16486480
>implying the diesel doesn't ruin the handling with its weight and completely ruin the driving experience
Take your polluting pile of shit elsewhere faggot
>>16486532
same shit, different displacement.
>>16486532
It's ok, just ok, I'd have one that for sure.
>>16486546
>giving a fuck about polution
>talks about handling in a FWD wagon
Amerilards at it again.
>>16486564
>implying the only good things about an Alfa are its looks, handling, and rev-happy engines
With the diesel, you kill 2 of the 3 things that make Alfas great. Either way, it's going to be unreliable. So why bother with diesel hell? At least with the petrol, you'll have some fun before you're on the side of the motorway in a cloud of steam.
>expensive (<10k) wagon
>not an audi
I would rather drive an e46 wagon than this ugly piece of shit.
>>16486546
>implying you are such a fine driver that you could teller the difference between the handling of a diesel from that of a gas powered car
Don't you have to discuss laptimes on cars you will never buy?
>>16486581
Still believing the unreliable Alfa meme.
>>16486450
>gorgeous
>implying implications
>>16486724
Clarkson said it so it must be true!
>>16486724
that not a meme thought they change the recommended belt timing interval replacement from 120 000 km to 60 000 on all TS and JTS petrol engine
>>16486777
In the 90's yeah on the 16v fiat based blocks after the move from timing chains to belts. But it's an everyday engine that revs to 7600rpm. I've had a few (many) and they can take a decent amount of abuse.
looks like a minivan
>>16486450
8k is guaranteed to get you a mint one.
That shit better have a diamond incrusted interior or something
>>16486450
>thinking that ugly pos looks "gorgeous"
>2L
>>16487936
nah what i was talking happend on the alpha romeo 147 and 156
the 159 might have other engines though
>>16486724
Not unreliable.
Shitty build quality and bushings.
Most rattle like hell, some before reaching 100k kms.
>>16487971
You might be blind anon.
Or just suffering from poor taste.
>>16486450
>estate/wagon model
>gorgeous
sigh
>>16486450
best looking wagon.
do it.
Is that a fucking Chrysler Pacifica?
>>16486463
Ever owned an Alfa?
If it's not the V6, then diesels are their best engines. Yes patrols sound nicer, but their diesels are more powerful and economical.
OP - Lovely cars but expensive to repair of things go wrong. 17K seems a lot for one though...
>>16492063
thisthisthis
The 2.4 even sounds nice as it's a 5 cyl
>>16486455
>>16486462
>>16486471
>>16486472
I guess if you're buying an unreliable car you might as well go full out on the options so you at least have a unique car to sell when you get tired of repairing it.
>>16486450
Dont get the fucking diesel.
I looked into the 200hp petrol one
>>16487971
kek, this
>spending almost 17k
>car doesn't even have an LS
yurofags are so cucked