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>at this moment, average stupid american who owns a huge V8

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>at this moment, average stupid american who owns a huge V8 pickup with a bed he never puts heavy load on, uses colossal amounts of fuel everyday just because its cheap
why is it even allowed? desu usa should have same fuel price as europe.
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>Everyone should be cucked like me!
Fuck off.
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Sounds like we've detected an assmad yurop fangirl.
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>>16446501
>why is it even allowed?
Because we have FREEDOMS that include spending our money on whatever we want.
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>>16446501
Sounds like you're mad that our government did the right thing and didn't tax gasoline to shit so we aren't choking under a cloud of smog that comes with widespread diesel.
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Why do you people always assume that? Most people that can afford a truck also have nice toys to put in or haul with it. There's like 10 boats on and 15 travel trailers on my street... Plus people are always hauling shit for their dumbass flower gardens n shit. Good luck pulling a trailer full of snowmobiles 150 miles then pulling that up a nasty logging road with a FWD 1.5l diesel...
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>>16446522
>can afford
There's that fallacy again.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/09/06/car-loans-now-top-1-trillion-delinquency-rates-rise/89911210/
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>>16446506
How will yuropoors ever recover?
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Don't hate me cause you ain't me
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>>16446501
Stay mad, yurofaggot
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>>16446529

I live in Canada though. We got dat oil money.
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If americans were pushed by stricter emissions/fuel prices, would their cars be better? honestly current american moto industry is garbage and there is not a single good car designed in the usa.

meanwhile look at japanese or european cars. they are fun, small engines with forced induction and modern tech. meanwhile usa gives us pigfat rwd garbage that cant turn with archaic V8 using pushrods for instance.
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>>16446549
I thought you don't because you sell it cheap to the US for refining and then buy it back expensive.
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Europoors, kek.
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>>16446537
>400cid and 700cfm of carbed American goodness

I'll get 10mpg if I'm lucky and I don't give a shit
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>>16446557

It hurts us a bit but were still doing fine in the good provinces. Definitely better than the good states.
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>>16446553
This

Nipshit a best
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>>16446564
>400 Mopar
Build a xboxhueg stroker it out of that

For science.
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gas is 5cent a liter in iraq and 10c/l in venezuela
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>>16446593
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>>16446593
>>16446629
Damnit
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>>512 cubic inches of FREEDOM
>faster than yurop's finest million dollar hypercars
this triggers the yurocuck
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>>16446593
One guy owns (or at least makes payments on) a speedboat, I guess this justifies all 100 million pickup trucks in the US.
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>>16446505
>implying it's not easy as fuck to get more efficient cars
i mean fuck, some cars there run 17 miles per gallon. that is fucking INSANE. some cars we have here pull 8 liters per 100km = about 35 mpg
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>>16446666

What part of "we got toys" do you not understand? That's why we live in big houses with 3 car garages and storage sheds... When that isn't enough we park them in a storage lot.
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I really think we should save natural resources for future generations

to waste as much as possible just because we can seems to me retarded and irresponsible
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>>16446699

Fuck them. They're too busy making up new gender pronouns and cutting their dicks off. Religion will end the world way before resources run out.
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>>16446501
I have a v8 pickup because I am a homeowner and need to haul shit.

I try to never drive it except twice a month to maintain the battery and dump some fresh fuel into it
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>>16446517
Diesel is more expensive than petrol and most people drive petrol cars here.
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>>16446694
What part of "Americans owe a trillion bucks on cars alone" don't you understand?
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>>16446501
if you had cheap gas and big open roads i cant imagine europe wouldnt be doing the same thing
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>>16446743
What the FUCK do car loans have to do with gas? Sounds like you're just jealous that Americans have it better than you
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>>16446743
-butthurt
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>>16446753
they all are
thats why europoors make threads about us everyday and we make none about them
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>>16446762
Can't blame em
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>tfw murrican poorfag
>qualify for obamacare so hard that I pay zero monthly premium and I can walk in and out of hospitals without a bill
>get massive tax returns because I'm below the poverty line
>still have a house with a garage and three, count em, THREE cars
>two V8s and an I4 DD
>drive all of them and rejoice at the low gas prices we've seen in the last couple years because I can fill my thirsty 2-ton landyacht for $40 and cruise around killing the environment in comfort and milk delicious tears from faggots who bought a hybrid cuckmobile
You fucking mad OP? Go fluff your bull.
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>>16446753
Why the fuck are you suddenly bringing up gas after talking about toys, garage sizes and storage lots, and then are cocky enough to suggest that I misunderstood you?
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>>16446743

Why don't you own your "flats"? Pretty sure 99.9% of you rent your houses. Talk about being financially cucked.
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>>16446790
Because I have the freedom to do so
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>>16446815
>Europoors don't even own their own homes
Kek
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>>16446815
[citation needed]

Also am I hearing things or is that your house payment beeping in the background?

>>16446821
It makes for a catastrophic argumentation though and makes you look like a complete moron.
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>>16446711
This. But most those people making up genders and cutting their dicks off seem pretty anti-religion, despite it all being backed by the Jews.
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>>16446852
>[citation needed]
https://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2016/feb/25/families-renting-2016-english-housing-survey

The trend continues across Europe, everyone lives in council flats, and only the Uber-rich can afford to buy
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>>16446966
Oh no, 37% renters, it's like a second holocaust for the working man.

By the way why are Americans even buying houses still when they're far more likely than Europeans to move for their career?
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Please tell me someone has that "Difference Between Europe and the USA" with the 3 GT40s crossing the line at Le Mans with the European picture having some crashed Porsche on the side of the road.
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>>16446537
>canadian flag
hmm ..
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>>16446583
I was thinking about it

What sucks about Mopar stuff is everything is so fucking expensive, it costs three times more to build a Chrysler motor than a comparable Chevy motor
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>>16446699
if humanity doesn't get out of earth within 500 years, we're fucked anyways in the long run.

Oil is going to last longer than that ever since we've found more reserves that are economically accessible (for better or worse). I don't think China has even started fracking very much since it's probably still cheaper for them to just import.
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>>16447019
That's private only retard, when you count social housing (a further 17%) it's 54% renters or over half the nation
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>>16447019
>By the way why are Americans even buying houses still when they're far more likely than Europeans to move for their career?

Because it's easy to buy and sell houses here? You don't have to suck the lord of Worcestershire on the river Mohammad's dick to get a square foot of land for $1million.
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>>16447019
>By the way why are Americans even buying houses still when they're far more likely than Europeans to move for their career?

Buying a house gives you a resellable asset, living in council flats gives you nothing but a £350 black hole every month
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>>16447075
Yeah but what if you're still making payments which you likely are because Americans are always making payments on something?
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>>16446815
>Talk about being financially cucked.
I'd argue people feel more cucked about OWNING a house because of property taxes and needing to apply for restrictive permits to build anything from a simple gazebo or carport.

I'm even more surprised some people would even subject themselves to maintenance fees or HOA bullshit.
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>>16447081
>Have $300,000 mortgage
>Pay off $35,000 over 5 years or so
>Move house, sell old one for $300,000
>Pay off remaining $265,000, using $35,000 as down payment on next house

It's like you're 17 years old and have no idea how the world works
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>>16447081

The mortgage on a 3000sq.ft house is less than the rent on a 200sq.ft "flat" in the UK. It's not a big deal. A lot of boomers have their houses paid off by now which is how they can afford Corvettes and Porsche's.
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>>16447081
mortgages can be adjusted easily
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>>16447098
>It's like you're 17 years old and have no idea how the world works
Not surprising for a delusional yurocuck though.
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>>16447100
How exactly does paying off your house magically enables you to afford Porsches? Especially when you're retired and don't have an income? Do you seriously leverage your house against your car loan?
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>>16447122
>retired and don't have an income

once again, its like you are 17 and don't understand how the real world works.
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>>16447131
Well then tell me where boomer retirees get their income for affording Porsches from.
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>>16447122
>How exactly does paying off your house magically enables you to afford Porsches?

Gee I don't know... Maybe having $1500 a month in your pocket instead of going towards a mortgage? What are RSP's and line of credits?
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>>16447122
What kind of retard retires without income

>what are investments
>what is income property
>what is financial literacy

Fucking yuropoors
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>mfw I can go 230 miles on $6 worth of gas on my motorcycle

it absolutely infuriates me when I ride past a massive douchey pickup truck (with Hitch Testicles, "LOCK HER UP!", and MAGA stickers, of course) and there's only a single person in the entire truck

it also so happens these people are the only ones who try and run me off the road/brake check/cut me off/stop me from changing lanes. All because I'm on a motorcycle mind you.
if only euthanasia of the retarded was legal
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>>16447122
>Spend 10-20 years paying $1500/m to your mortgage
>One day it's paid off and you now have $1500/m extra
>Buy a $600/m Porsche with your good credit
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>>16447140
What do you think a retirement fund is

You can make 25k a year your entire life and still retire a millionaire.

Bad, there's your fucking porsche. And house. And boat. And five rental properties in Texas for even more money.

Stop being fucking retarded.
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>>16447168
>credit
>buying something with money you don't have
god americans are retarded
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>>16447177
Says the guy who doesn't understand the concept of a retirement fund
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>>16447173
>You can make 25k a year your entire life and still retire a millionaire.
If you live in a garbage bin and steal your food maybe. Have you ever heard of such a thing as expenses?
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>>16447190
I bet he voted for trump too
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>>16447140
pensions. dividends payed out from retirement plans. rental property. social security.

most "retired" guys, especially ones that like to wrench, do a lot of side work just to keep from getting bored too.
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>>16447184
>still doesn't understand that 4chan is more than two people
And you're trying to tell me that you're not a moron.
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>>16447177
>Spend 40 years living in a council flat throwing money in a burning pit
>But nothing on credit ever, rent while trying to save $300,000 in cash to buy a house
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>>16447190
Lmfao

Do you even know how much your money grows sitting in your retirement fund?

You don't have to cripple yourself and live in a fucking box. Stop putting your loose change in a jar and put it in your fucking 401k
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As much as I love the rich European culture and history (which is quickly disintegrating with the influx of immigrants), I would never be happy with how cuck their emission and general car standards are there.

Pic very related, same model I drive.
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>>16447173
>>16447196
According to Americans no one in America is stupid enough to rent, so how is anyone making money from rental properties then?

Bonus question: How will the rental market refrain from becoming utterly oversaturated when everyone wants to earn money renting out property? Or is this one of your famous bubbles again?
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>>16447163

>driving a small shitty motorcycle in a city filled with big trucks
>calls others retarded

I've never seen more than one person in a Panamera or FF either, Most sports cars never get driven hard or on a track. Everything in life is pointless.
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>>16447213
>According to Americans
You mean according to some retard on 4chan
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>>16447173
>You can make 25k a year your entire life and still retire a millionaire
no you cant.

assuming first deposit of 5k and deposits of 2.5k every year for 40 years, compounded at 8% (generous as fuck for retirement fund)
thats only like 700k, far from being a millionaire
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>>16446501
I hate to say it but the Americans have a good system.

Why should they have to drive around in a prius just because your socialist government makes you drive one?
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>>16447209
It's ironic because federal standards for new vehicles in the US are stricter both for emissions and safety than in Europe. Enjoy your tree stump pillars and mandatory backup cameras so your texting morons don't kill themselves when they do their daily driving without paying attention.
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>>16447233
>buying new
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>>16447222
>8%
In your dreams.
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>>16447222
That's literally 300k shy of millionaire status.

Also
>his job doesn't match his 401k contributions
Forgot that one little detail, champ. If your job doesn't match what you put in you need to leave.
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>>16447238
Well, you can buy used anywhere, and in fact Europeans can import more used cars than Americans, which makes the previous argument about car standards being superior in the US moot.
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>>16447213
thats not true. a lot of americans rent. usually yuppies who are just starting out in their careers and who are leading a bit of a transient lifestyle.

and rental property should only be a slice of any retirement pie.
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>>16447216
sounds like someone's too chicken shit to ride

he thing is panameras and FFs get better gas mileage than the overcompensation slam van bro tank that these people drive. And they don't go out of their ways to try and make me crash.
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>>16447270
sounds like someone's a faggot
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>>16447252
You can pretty much modify your car to ridiculous levels in the US, in Europe you have to jump through some serious hoops if you want to swap in even a slightly bigger engine and keep it street legal.
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>>16447233

Either way, their inflated gas prices and high mark ups on American (read: fun) cars (a new base model GT is about $55,000 in Germany kek) is enough to keep me far away.
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>>16447295
sounds like someone's running out of arguments
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>>16447270
>thing is panameras and FFs get better gas mileage than the overcompensation slam van bro tank that these people drive.

They don't though. Isn't a sports car pointless if it uses more fuel than a big brotruck?

>And they don't go out of their ways to try and make me crash.

Pretty sure nobody does that on purpose on the count of it being a felony. You're probably one of those fuckhead riders who thinks they own the road and rides like a dickhead, like snowcat and the other faggy motovloggers
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>>16447306
Samefag
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>>16447303
In return my highway system is generally rated for unlimited [unit of speed, doesn't matter since it's unlimited], and still I'm less likely to die on my roads than Americans on theirs.

>>16447304
The Mustang price isn't horridly far fetched. First of all it's $45k, not $55k. Also once you subtract the higher value added tax and the shipping costs across an ocean, the price difference to the American price is less than $5k. The shipping costs are inevitable unless they start assembling it in Europe as well, and the value added tax isn't specific to the Mustang and affects every new car to an equal degree.
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>>16447309
no. I ride a CB500F. I ride as if I'm driving a car.

They will literally speed up and slow down to match my speed so that I can't change lanes, they will begin to merge into me even if I honk my fucking sound bomb and rev bomb to the limiter. They'll pass in front of me and then slam on their brakes. Or they'll tailgate me.
Maybe it's because my bike kinda looks like a sportsbike? I don't fucking know. All I do know is that they're fucking menaces.
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>>16447309
>Pretty sure nobody does that on purpose on the count of it being a felony.
You underestimate the ego of some American drivers. And yes, I said Americans because it's a problem that arises from their understanding of society, individuality and subsequent self-importance.
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>>16447343
If you can't take the heat get the fuck off my road
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i don't agree with you about gas prices, but as far as civilians owning trucks, it's ridiculous.

I live in HTX and the amount of trucks is kind of baffling; most people will never need or us the kind of utility the big ass Ford and Chevy trucks are capable of

waste of resources imo
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>>16447333
Case in point
>>16447385
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>>16447387
Those people choose to waste resources. It's not your place to decide whether or not they can drive trucks
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>>16447428
when their trucks are fucking up the environment for everyone, it kinda is our choice to decide whether or not they can drive trucks
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>>16447428
But that's the entire point. Resource management should be a society's concern to ensure its own survival. You don't build a solid foundation for your nation's future by being a wasteful asshole. The Saudi Arabians are doing this, building useless skyscraper cities in the middle of nowhere in a matter of years instead of investing in their education and diversification, and we're all basically only waiting for their economic model to collapse and leave them in ruins.
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>>16447428
Wow, ease up there lassy and wipe the blood of your mouth

big trucks in a civilian environment are just another form of overcompensation.
if that's how you choose to exercise your freedom in choice of vehicle then more power to you...

...it wont make your cock any bigger tho bud, sorry breh
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>>16447441
t. communist
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>>16446501
U mad, cuck?
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>>16447447
those sky scrapers arent funded by the government, theyre funded by private organization revenue

msot of those iron towers are a company with eastern hemisphere headquarters in one of the shitlord-towers in dubai
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>>16447333

Get a real bike faggot.

>use my sound bomb
>rev bombing

It sounds like you're staying in people's blind spots like a fucking idiot then acting like a fuckhead when you feel triggered.
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>>16447448
Lole! Small peepee!!! Big truck mean small PEEPEE!!
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>>16447461
here's your (you)

>>16447464
hey buddy you said it, not me
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>>16447387

Yeah it's real environmentally friendly living in a fucking desert...

*tips AC knob
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>>16447447
You're right. We should all drive 50hp cuckboxes so that environment's feelings don't get hurt
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>>16447471
>it wont make your cock any bigger tho
>hey buddy you said it, not me
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>>16447478
my boy, my home island is set to be under water in roughly 20-30 years because of contrarian inbred troglodytes such as yourself

>>16447486
so you're telling me you DO have a small penis? Really makes me think
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>>16447494
Why is your mind so focused on small dicks?
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>>16447494
>my home island
Figured it would be one of you
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>>16447498
kinda hard not to be when I'm having a conversation with one
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>>16447500
One of whom?
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>>16447504
Jokes on you, I'm a completely different person and I drive an 1800cc hatchback
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>>16447504
Not an argument
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>>16446522
>Yfw my Small Euro Diesel Can tow my both of my Snowmobiles an Caravan
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>>16447525
>1.6 TDI

1.9 TDi master race, eat shit 1.6 fag
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>>16447525
>Yfw
>Doesn't post a face
Hello newfriend
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>>16447542
It's permissive to leave out the face in order to transfer additional information, you stump.
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>>16447550
Not an argument
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>>16446501
>assmad euros at it again

oy vey

I get 9-10 mpg in my trucks, you mad?
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Why do euros always assume people don't have to tow stuff?
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>>16447626
Because with Torquey little Diesels we dont need a Fuckhuge truck to tow stuff with.
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>>16447626
99.9% of euros never tow anything

>>16447655
I tried towing my E46 compact with my mates 1.3 "torque powerhouse" Punto and all that happened is that the engine overheated after 3 miles on flat ground at 40mph
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>>16446501
As terrible as this bait is, I think there are people who think that fuel efficieny is the be all end all.

The point is that if you want to drive a fuel efficient vehicle here, you can. Nothing stops you. You want to drive a 5+ liter V8 making under 200hp? Go ahead. Its a freedom of choice.
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>>16447738

>Towing with a 1.3 Italian Piece of shit that makes 74hp that inside a Micro Car

Sick argument bro.

a Passat with a 1.6 TDI could easily tow it.
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>>16447782
>1.6 Tdi
>Literally a 74hp engine
>Or in TOP ULTRA PLATINUM trim, 115
>15 year old 1.9 Tdis make 150+ stock

What the fuck are you on about, the 1.6 is the same garbage
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>>16447655

You live in a flat, barren wasteland. He have hills and mountains to go up here. The 13 liter semi trucks here blow their rads open climbing some of the passes here. Good luck pulling anything with a 1.9
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>>16447087
What you do about that is know a guy who builds it without a permit. Also don't have narc neighbors.
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I use my truck to bring home more trucks, feels great.
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>>16447850
>tfw

I one towed a Land Rover Discovery, in my Land Rover Defender with a toy Range Rover in the back for my nephew
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>>16447387
It's the bill of rights, not the bill of needs, faggot.
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>>16447387
Can't believe CTR shills are still around.
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>>16447163
I borrowed my mom's F-150 after my car broke down for a couple of days and that was fucking ENOUGH. Why the hell does every insecure fag drive a truck in this town? I know your faggy trucks never leave the asphalt, I smirk thinking about it while I jerk it to my tiny gas station reciepts.
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>>16447163
>mfw I get 50 mpg or so on my street bike
>mfw I get ~16 mpg in my rayp van taking my track bike to the track
>mfw I'm an American and we have cheap track days

feels good man
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>>16446790
Because thats LITERALLY THE FUCKING OP
People aren't born this stupid, right?
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>>16446693
My v8 mustang doesn't even get 17 in the city with a heavy foot.

How does it feel to be a yuropoor?
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>>16446563
>just looking at this picture is a hate crime in yuropooria
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>>16446693
Eh, 17 city isn't to bad, only about $30/week if it's just regular cruising and no longer trips. On trips it gets better (or it did before the gears, engine/Trans mods, now it's only about 26-27mpg at a steady cruise.) It's super fun though, I tried driving a cavalier, camry, and civic hatch and nothing is as good as the feeling you get from this. 17mpg is fine with me :)
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>>16447525
>1500 euros
>3300 americans

Shit tier to be honest, my wagon is rated at nearly twice that.
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>>16446501
>never owned a vehicle that wasn't a 3/4 ton 4x4 with leather seats and power everything

Freedom feels great.
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>>16446693
>17 miles per gallon

Holy Fuck. I get 8
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>>16447525

Most travel trailers here weigh twice that much empty...
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>>16449111
>I get 8
No shit, me too.
And I don't even drive a truck.
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>>16449197
Goddamn. What do you drive? Must be comfy as Fuck
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>Be me
>Make $80 / hr
>Drive fuckhueg truck that gets single digit MPG's
>OP mad af
>Mfw I even carried some furniture the other day
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>>16447046
A
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Because you weren't using it anyways. Your countries will be among the first to abolish ICEs.

Also your gas is expensive to encourage diesel use, which, while better for slowing the greenhouse effect's destruction of niggerland, gave you lung cancer.
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>>16446501
>Europe
Lets see, 3 engines come to mind...
S62, S85, and N74.
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>>16447213

>What are minorities, newly weds, millennials, newly divorced, women, retirees.....
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>>16447019
>the american way:
>buy house
>-tiny down payment, +line item on budget, only a portion of which goes to interest
>if you're spending more in the long term, you better have more now. invest what you didn't throw out in cold cash.
>make improvements
>also invest in something other than your fucking house
>sell for slightly more later
>while sitting on additional profits from stocks and bonds
>kick niggers off the street on a whim because HOA
>build wall
>drive around in your lifted truck
>refuse to sell gays cakes
>shoot cans with a semi automatic 50BMG "target rifle"
>fuck a canadian's wife
>go to the mall one day
>get shot

>the european way:
>go outside because it's better than your rented flat
>get ran over by a durka in a mercedes delivery truck
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>>16447333

I love when pussies like you get frustrated and punch my tires because they cant reach my mirrors.
>>
I drive V8 pickup in the city, that I seldom use the bed for anything beyond groceries.

Gas is $2.70-3
It's not cheap, and I hate shitty mpg's.
I simply would rather drive my truck until it dies, and pay off school, before getting a new rig.
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>>16449220
A Ferrari.
>comfy
It bounces around like a motherfucker, but I don't really mind.
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>>16447309
>own the road, rides like a dickhead

Is this retard speak for "takes advantage of the size and speed of their vehicle" and "i am very jealous because I gave up greater mobility for lower risk and more cargo capacity"? Because it usually is.

>that fucker took off from a stoplight fast
>fuck him, thinking he can get out of traffic while i'm driving a rusted out hilux
>i'm going to break the speed limit to catch up to him and then harass the fuck out of that faggot and his advantages that were by no means free
>he should respect how slow my vehicle is!
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>>16449448
hey, if truck drivers weren't childish retards they'd drive SUVs, vans, and diesel wagons.
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>>16446505
>>16446506
It's like magic. Say the word "cuck" and Carl just shows right up.
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>>16449473
Are you kidding me!?
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>>16449448

t. I get walked by big trucks on my shitty 1banger poser bike
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>>16449482
My bike goes 0 to 60 faster than any truck does out of the factory.

The only thing trucks are better for in traffic is mass murder, as the europeans in this thread should know by now
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>>16449503
>as the europeans in this thread should know by now
oh snap
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>>16449503

Europoors on suicide watch
>>
Large displacement cars must be abolished because of the environment. When will amerifats think of the greater good rather than comfort? You irresponsible lardfats should learn from your colonial masters.
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>>16449741
Nah, we can't walk across our country in an hour.
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>>16449750
You don't need anything more than a 2l diesel passat. You are literally destroying the earth. Countries are literally shaking because they are about to go under water as a result of your irresponsible hedonism.
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>>16446501
get fucked commie
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>>16449771
>You don't need anything more than a 2l diesel passat
Pretty close. I have a 4l V-8 that gets 10mpg.

>Countries are literally shaking
Maybe they just need to take a shit or something.
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>>16449778
Americans are so brainwashed they think anything opposing their world view is communism. Capitalist indoctrination has ruined this burger consuming species.
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>>16449786
>Americans are so brainwashed
Most of them, yes. Not all of us are that bad.
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>>16447850
The tongue weight must be painful.
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>>16449401
Again, diesel costs more than petrol and diesel cars are uncommon here.
>>
>American Mazda 3 are commonly found with 2.5L I4's, considered slow as fuck

>Europe has the ""hot"" hatch Mazda 3 with the same 2.5L in the ""sport"" trim
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>>16450423
>In Europe, 1.8L diesel Fiat Puntos are considered sports cars
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