itt cars that bluepilled normies think are cool but in reality

damn seems like someone got smoked in his shitstang

>>16438173
>Hellcats
>not awesome
Pick one

yeah those cars are nothing more than normie fap bait

>m-muh 707 hp

>>16438236
No, normie cars are the 6 cylinder model that they think is just as good. Hellcats are top notch bang for buck

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the a3 is a status symbol in my europoor country, even when 90% are on a lease

>>16438937
poland detected

>>16438955

nope holland

>>16439003
>>16438937
Even worse, idiots in their A1, flauting their Audi keys. IT'S JUST A REBADGED POLO YOU WANKER.

>>16438173
Are you butthurt because you got beaten off the line by one? Sounds like you are.

>Autotragic
Confirmed for never having driven anything with an 8HP.

are you a cuck anon?
because you sound like a cuck.

>>16439033
even here in Germany people laugh at them

where did it all go so wrong?

>>16438222

>Google hellcat problems.

>Warped hoods
>Failing paint
>People on their literal 4th pully bearing replacement
>full rail recall

It could have been better.

>>16439397
>google X problems
>find all problems with X
wow who would have thought!

>>16439423
They seem common.

Kinda makes you think.

>>16439448
Colossol battles with millions of dead also seem pretty common if you google ''1916 ww1 deadliest battles''.

>>16439378
No we don't. They are like a few grand more for superior audi interiors and higher resale value

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>>16439456

Itt people defending FCA

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>>16439478
If you're going to shitpost, at least keep it current.

>>16439488
Explain to me how its a shot post if nothing has changed?

>>16439488
GTR > Z06

>>16439488
Even better the car manufacturer directly in question is listed at the very bottom

Wew lad

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>>16439493
Fiat has clearly improved, and Dodge has clearly worsened - relevant to the current discussion, because it'll apply more heavily to the Hellcat, which is being discussed here.

On another note, how can Dodge do so badly, while Ram is above average? How come Ford went down the drain this much, with Lincoln not showing the same trend? How come Mercedes is doing pretty good, but smart is bottom feeding?

>>16439494
>GTR > Z06
Go for it Alphonse, I've got the bingo chart. Your last record is 2:09.

>>16439520

>below industry average

Nothing else matters.

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>>16438937
Nothing makes me angrier than people thinking they're driving a "luxury car" when its just a rebadged golf with all the features stripped out and sold separately.

>>16438268
you know you have a shit car when if you get the less powerful version people tell you its pointless.

>>16439488
>squeaking boot is the same level as complete motor blow up

JD power everyone.

>>16439698

This is why these are really stupid. All reported issues are weighted the same and like you said, a cabin rattle counts as just as much of a defect as a transmission failure.

>dat buick tho

>>16439690
>shit posters on /o/
>"people"

Actually being in those cars, even the more basic models, is pretty nice. They sound good, they ride nice, and they look good. For a cheap, powerful sedan it's just as legitimate as anything else in the bracket.

>shit storm of people who have never driven one incoming

>>16439535

I wouldn't really care if they just drove the thing as a dd (what a lease car is supposed to be), but people are actually sharing the monthly payments with a group of 4/5 people just so they can drive around in a 2016+ a3 or cla, its really really sad

>>16439488
>Volvo now above industry standard

feelsgoodman

>>16440100
Me and my friends jokingly have proposed that idea with the idea of sharing the car on certain days or reserving it lmao that's gold

>>16439844
>if my car manufacturer cant assure me a problem free ball joint they'll definitely make up for it with quality engine conponents.

>>16440100
>>16440202
That honestly sounds fun.

>>16440202

Atleast get something cool or completely insane then

>>16440206
>if my company can make a sturdy cup holder by making it out of carbon fiber and gold, surely their high-strung, complicated, pig iron engines will be reliable and inexpensive to maintain.

See? Terrible logic works both ways. These statistics are useless and favour cars that are routinely serviced and expertly maintained (read: luxury cars and leases).

>>16440436

I'm going to buy a hellcat just so I can bitch about it to you. Give me your email address and I'll document the process of it falling apart for you. Itl make us friends.

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Idk why you guys bag on them so much. The challenger/charger are pretty good cars.

What brings down Dodge's reliability rating is the avenger and dart which were the most purchased Dodge vehicles. Those pieces of shit are unreliable trash.

The charger/challenger are pretty bulletproof across the board

>>16440754
how much does fiat pay you, mjet?

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>>16438173

>>16440188
Killing off the old XC90/XC60 fixed a lot of that
even if the new XC90 has a bunch of electrical problems, it has less than the old one.

>>16440627
I'm going to buy an M4 just so I can batch about it to you while it's in the shop for it's weekly scheduled maintenance. It would make us friends, but unfortunately all my time will be spent on the street corner trying to sell my body for "wear item" replacements such as most of the engine. Luckily I now drive a BMW so the dick sucking skills will surely develop on their own.

Boy I wish I'd have had 700hp instead.

>>16440932
>normies
>liking the Fiesta ST

what m8. They love the FoST since it's vapecore. And even more so the RS because muh ken block

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>>16440762
>thinking I'm mjet
>drive a car that can't purchased in Europe

Nice try m8

Nice try m8

>>16441671
>implying Europe has some kind of import laws
well truly showed you're American here with your fat lack of knowledge.

>>16439488
there's no point to have an average

>>16440754
god, new challengers are fugly

>>16441870
dix ot dgain gony, esse

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Probably the king of all hailed shitboxes. Never met a normie who didn't think Jeeps were the toughest thing on the road.

Fucking horrid little shitboxes, the build quality is atrocious and the reliability is beyond unacceptable. There is a single factor pushing the sale of these things, and it's marketing hype. I guess that speaks to the genius of FCA's marketing department, but when you're selling dirt to retards it also doesn't take that much.

Kinda disgusts me too, when I see stuff like Prados and FJ Cruisers fail so horribly in North America, yet flourish in the rest of the world. Americans are fucking retards.

>>16439488
>Buick in top 3
???
What are they doing right?

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>>16441957
gm

>>16441893
most people abuse their jeeps, just sayin

>>16442012

Yes, because most Jeep owners are women or stupid blue collar trash who don't perform basic maintenance.

How does that change the fact that their build quality, from the factory, is extremely poor?

>>16441893
always tailgaiting you yet also always holding up the left lane, jeep drivers are such retards

there is a stunning amount of pictures on the internet of fucked up welds from the factory, broken mounting points etc. shit build quality and chromed plastic to appeal to the low iqs who couldn't afford a range rover

>>16442039

This. Speaks to my point about quality vehicles - despite their posh appearance, the older Land Rovers were solid vehicles.

And stuff like the FJ Cruiser, Prado, and Hilux just can't make it in the American market, because normies are slaves to marketing. All are superior in build quality and ability, yet none have a chance of success with such a braindead clientele.

Wake me up, man.

>>16442023
>How does that change the fact that their build quality, from the factory, is extremely poor?
It's not, people just trash them because they think they're more than a grocery getter.

Before you start memeing, i've worked in a Chrysler plant.

>>16442058
>FJ Cruiser, Prado, and Hilux
You realize these are all sold in America, some under different names?

>>16442065

It is poor, it's exceptionally poor. It's nothing to do with you as a pleb on the line, it's everything to do with jewish beancounters telling engineers to sub out to cheap chinese companies for shit parts.

FCA is objectively one of the worst automakers in the world at this point. Again, don't get all uppity and go Jimmy Hoffa on me you fuckin line worker, you're just the dumb-dumb who sticks it all together. Robots would do the same and the quality would be the same; it's the engineering and parts quality that matters.

Though some of you are truly stupid and the quality control isn't that great.

>>16442085

None of them are sold in America anymore. You'd be lucky to find 10 diesel Hiluxs in America. They stopped selling the FJ in 2015 due to poor sales figures in America. The Prado is not the same as the 4Runner.

>>16442086
redpill me on FCA

>>16438173
>bluepilled
>normies

This shit is starting to get really fucking stale.

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>>16441870
DELETRT THAT NWAOWOW!!!!!!

NOW!

But yeah that color is total shit unless it's in perfect lighting

Pic is my car which is better than your piece of trash car.

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>>16442085

>As of 2014, the Toyota Hilux is available worldwide, except Japan, United States, Canada, North Korea, South Korea, and India. By 2015, 16 million had been sold worldwide and almost a quarter of all European pickup sales were Hilux

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What's /o/'s deal with hating the Challenger?

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>>16442093

Poor quality vehicles that rely on the dumbest of the dumb in society. Small-dicked bros love Dodge Challengers, Chargers, and RAMS. You will never met a decent human being driving any of these cars.

Chrysler makes "fancy" cars for poor people - find me a single 200 or 300 that isn't driven by some waddling, muffin-top baby-momma or scuzzy white trash in an undershirt. Or a nigger.

Their SUVs are the epitome of garbage - Dodge branded stuff is the worst in terms of design and reliability, but Jeep follows right behind. The Compass, Patriot, Commander, and Wrangler are all horrendous messes with reliability far below average. The Cherokees hold their numbers due to middle class ignoramuses with enough overtime pay to finance a $40K vehicle. But that doesn't stop the 9 speed transmissions from trying to murder them.

There's a reason police forces quickly abandoned the Charger as a cop car - maintenance and reliability issues out the ass. Not that Ford and GM are amazing, but they can still build a better vehicle than FCA.

You have the worst automaker in North America being purchased by one of the WORST automakers in the WORLD - what else did you expect? Fiat once sold vehicles in North America, and they were forced out of the market. Why? Their vehicles were so atrociously poor, even decades ago, that Americans wouldn't tolerate their shit products.

If you ever consider purchasing a FCA product you deserve to die in a concentration camp.

>>16442086
>It is poor, it's exceptionally poor.
nah
>it's everything to do with jewish beancounters telling engineers to sub out to cheap chinese companies for shit parts.

Actually our parts came from Mexico.


>FCA is objectively one of the worst automakers in the world at this point
That's not how you spell VAG.

>Again, don't get all uppity and go Jimmy Hoffa on me you fuckin line worker, you're just the dumb-dumb who sticks it all together.
I made more in one day than you do in two weeks lmao.

> Robots would do the same and the quality would be the same
Robots did most of the welding anyway.

>>16442091
>You'd be lucky to find 10 diesel Hiluxs in America.
Toyo is going to start offering diesel engines in Tundras.

>They stopped selling the FJ in 2015
Because they're fucking hideous.

>>16442100
>Pic is my car which is better than your piece of trash car.
My junkyard condition Duster is more mopar than your brick wall.

>>16442105
It's called a Tacoma in America

>b..but it's not the same!
lol

>>16442123
it's fucking ugly as sin.

>>16442086
>jewish beancounters telling engineers

you mean engineers telling other engineers.

>>16442093
FIX
IT
AGAIN
TYRONE

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>>16442139
>its ugly

delet

>>16442139

>SHILLING THIS HARD

So you were objectively wrong about the Hilux, FJ, and Prado. Thanks for your shitpost.

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>>16442151
look at how disgustingly high that beltline is.
Trump's going to use wrecked challengers to build his all 2bh.

Have fun driving niggerbait.

>>16439448
>>16439423
He's got a point. I remember somebody linking me to a website that "proved" Hyundai was a terrible brand because of bad reviews, but after digging around the website I found every automaker got bad rankings because it's basically a website people go to to make complaints.

I think this was it, look up any auto manufacturer and see for yourself. Average for all of them is like 2.5 stars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/

>>16442161
>implying
I don't give a shit what you spend your money on.
lmao i drove a fucking Chevy to work at Chrysler.
btw i was right about all those shitboxes.

>>16442149

lmao

>>16442151

It's not ugly, they're actually pretty attractive vehicles. But the build quality is pretty poor. Chrysler just refuses to make reliable vehicles. I don't know if it's about the parts, the manufacturing, or the quality control, but their cars just aren't that great for longevity.

If you enjoy it and don't mind spending some extra money keeping it going, that's all that matters. But to say that FCA makes a decent quality vehicle is an outright lie. Even their trucks are shitty.

>>16442162

If you say so.

I appreciate the older Challengers, but I like being alive and having more than 3mpg.

>>16442168

of course you drove a chev, you're poor white trash working at an autoplant

>>16442171
Haven't had any problems with mine so far and if I do it's still under warranty.

>>16442135
So are Chrysler's bad cars or are you just mad that they're driven by certain people? Because a car being driven by a certain demographic does not make it inherently bad.

>>16442171
>but their cars just aren't that great for longevity.
1993 Dodge Spirit, still runs, no CEL.
Keep trying.

>>16442181
>having more than 3mpg.
Big blocks could get 17 mpg with a light foot you know.

>>16442183
Talk shit but that little shitheap kept running.

>>16442168

>works at Chrysler
>drives a Chevrolet
>calls the most reliable cars on the planet "shitboxes"

wew lad, the bitter jelly poorfags sure come out on Friday night

>>16442194
>

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ITT: FCA deploys more shills

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>>16442192

>light foot
>challenger

I'm not going to hypermile a classic so I can DD it.

>>16442208

does your dad know you pretend to own his car?

>>16442202

>FCA shit

>my FCA isn't shit, why are you saying that?

>LOL SHILL

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>>16442224

How would I even go around to proving I own the car?

What do you drive?

>>16442208
You should read up on Thermoquads.
They had tiny primary circuits and huge secondary circuits allowing you to get really good mileage for a 7 liter engine until you put your foot down, where you got all the power that could be coaxed out of the engine, but if you're concerned with mpg maybe a prius is more suitable for you.

>>16442230

I drive 100 different cars including a Ferrari and a Lamborghini and a Bentley. I can post pics to prove I own them, but nothing identifying.

But I do own them. All of them. If you doubt me you're jealous and poor.

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>>16442233

Yes, but it's still not a modern car, with modern amenities or safety features.

>>16442139
>being this mad that my God Tier Challeneger is better than your piece of garbage

Lmao

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>>16442242
>safety features.

>>16442242
yeah well that's why it weighs 3000 pounds and is almost beaten by a sub 200hp civic around the track.

Shame, it could have been a good car.

>>16442243
>lime green
>god tier
pick one
At least my garbage is genuine Detroit.

>>16442233
But thermoquads are so bad

>>16442260
No they aren't.

>>16441893
A jeep backed into my sister's corolla the other week. It was a brand new 2017 model and the guy said he trusted his rear sensor then proceeded to run his towbar into the the poor corolla. Jeep drivers are just fucking retarded

>>16442275

I hope your sister's insurance subs against him and fucks his premiums right up. Fucking Jeep cucks.

>>16442275
Jeep drivers are women.

>>16442278
iirc he had a bit of panel damage too on his rear bumper

>>16442275

>sensors
>not having a camera

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

>>16442286
Drove my bro's jeep the other day, it had a camera.

All cars are required to have backup cameras soon.

Fucking cancer.

>>16441957

Buick was the first company of G.M., because of this they get a couple extra steps of quality control in being made.

In the 'Car for every wallet' days they were just below Cadillac IIRC.

>>16442289

It's not bad if you have shit visibility out of the back, but I resent having a gigantic screen in the middle of the dash. Disgusting.

Plus it's helpful in letting you know if there are mexican midgets clinging to your bumper while you drive.

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>>16442299
>there are mexican midgets clinging to your bumper while you drive.

>>16442289
>all cars are required to have backup cameras soon
So does this mean people driving older vehicles will be forced to install third party ones, like the ones I've spotted at auto parts stores?

>>16442319
nah, older cars get exemptions.
My 61 doesn't even have seatbelts and it has a dash ignition.

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>>16442319

No, just new vehicles being produced. They were threatening to make automatic braking mandatory too, but I feel like that might be a harder sell. You can always just use your mirrors or turn your head to back up, but the automatic braking thing is an aggressive assault on driver autonomy.

>>16442309

There are few instances where I would tolerate this. Only the hottest of latin midgets are permitted in my vehicles.

>>16441893
wait FJ Cruisers are good?

>>16442248
>he likes being alive

>>16442259
Even if that were true, (It isn't) I don't track, so I don't care. I enjoy being able to fit 3-4 adults comfortably and having a trunk larger than beverage cooler.

>>16442404
where have you been?

the rule of thumb for jap cars is that the more it looks like a kids toy, the more reliable it is.

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>>16442259
You act like people only buy cars for their lap times. Only autistic poor fags actually care about last times.

Why do I give a fuck a FWD eco box is faster around a circle than my car?

>civic
>fwd
>4 cylinder
>eco box no one will care about except some poorfag on a Vietnamese rice cooking forum.
>shit interior
>awful to ride in

Like seriously? All you have to say is "muh lap times"? Get back to your 9-5 shift at 7/11

>>16442416
just sayin, shame a little riceball out performs your obese Dart

>>16442438
>If I repeat the lie enough times it becomes truth.

>>16442449
I don't have to repeat anything, it's already true, that's why i said it.

But if you like it

>>16442463

>I don't have to repeat anything
>repeats it

Provide proofs tovarish

>>16442468
What did i repeat?

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>>16442404
FJ's are great offroad they just have terrible fuel economy.

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>>16442438
>>16442259

>>16442472

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>>16442404

FJ Cruisers are insanely reliable, durable vehicles. My dad has a 2008 Offroad pack FJ with 311,000km and he had his first repair just after 300,000. One of the front half-shafts needed replacing, so he did both. About $500 all in. Not bad considering it's had nothing but fluid changes and brakes. Still has all the original lightbulbs...and the original battery.

I have a 2011 Adventure pack FJ, just under 100,000km. Solid little truck with gobs of power. My only beef is that it doesn't have heated mirrors (even though they ran power to the mirrors for the floodlights).

>>16442411

I hated the look of them when they firs debuted, but it's grown on me a lot since 2007. After owning one and seeing how well they're made, I can't say anything really negative about them. Maybe the blindspots, but you get used to them. No different than driving a big van or a truck with a cap on it.

>>16442501
Saved

>>16442438
It probably outperforms a sl 63, M6, S63, S8, and a shit load of other high performance sedans and coupes.

You know why? Because most cars aren't built for the track nor do their owners ever intend to take then there. Track performance isn't the only goal in mind for every car, especially above 50k

>>16442259
Mine was the black one

Since your only argument was about the color, and my car isnt that color, your argument is completely invalid

Commit suicide immediately

>>16442549
nigger car

>>16442625
lol nice meme

niggers can't afford a hellcat or any high trim SRT

>>16438173
this thread had potential.... then you post the literal god tier car ....

>>16442636
They can't afford them but then still have them

>>16442636

>SRT
>expensive

they can afford to steal them

>>16442625
>gets btfo

>n-nig-ger!!!!

>Mfw blacks are better than whites
>mfw this triggers spme virgin pol tard

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>>16442233
Rochester was here, Carter is a loser!

>>16442681
okay nigger stop chimping

>>16442683
Carter built Quadrajets because Rochester is trash.

>>16442717
>gets btfo

>nigger!!!!

Kek

Btfo

>>16441893
>It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.

Actually, its a retard thing and we completely understand.

>>16442675
Sorry i consider anything at or above $55k expensive.

Last time i checked my car costs more than the median household income with both paretns working in the USA

>>16442135
Couldn't have put it more eloquently. I would never, ever buy FCA garbage. In fact, I can't even stand looking at their vehicles. Their designs age faster than milk in an open refrigerator in summer.
Only low-IQ people purchase these abominations.

>>16442162

They just try to sell nostalgia to boomers and their offspring.

>>16442774
>Sorry i consider anything at or above $55k expensive.

that's because you're poor

>>16442091
The Lexus GX 470 is a rebadged Prado.

>>16442911
lol ok

what do you drive?

>>16442286
>not tilting your head or looking in your mirror

>>16443119
I ride the bus but why does it matter?

>>16438173
my dreamcar desu

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Why so much Hate for FCA?

I lived in California for a few months last year and rented a Chrysler 300C

It was well specced, average bulid, quickish with the 300bhp v6

OK gas mileage

Don't know shit about the maintenance though

Every other normie thought it was something special.

pic related, mine

>>16441671
>can't purchased in Europe
U wot m8

http://occasions.autoscout24.nl/?atype=C&make=2152&model=19102&mmvmk0=2152&mmvmd0=19102&mmvco=1&fregfrom=2000&zipc=NL&zipr=200&ustate=N,U&sort=threetier,price&results=20&page=1&event=addB||firstreg&dtr=s

>>16442767
nigger
btfo

>>16438173
A cool guy once let me do donuts in his V6 challenger.

Was dank.

>>16438937
>implying leasing an Audi is a poor choice

>>16444664

>V6
>100% mad

I understand the economics of having to sell 100k LC/LX cars to googles, but the V6 is exactly 0% dank.

>>16442085

hehe, no they arent.

>>16442162
LOL

>>16444594
Bigger nigger
btfo

>>16442404
jeeps > fj cruiser for off roading but no one here actually goes hardcore off roading

>>16445359
that's why i drive a challenger btfo

>>16442095
bluepilled normie detected and ejected

>>16439467
>>>16439378
>No we don't. They are like a few grand more for superior audi interiors and higher resale value
Resale value for normies who keep their cars for a decade is irrelevant and premium shop hourly rate negate that advantage anyway

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>>16442242
Nigger, please...

>>16445470
no u

>>16445650
>tfw no v8

Thank G*d.

>>16445684
You're not a man.

>>16445694
>being this btfo

>>16445704
That wasn't even me, but seriously. Who the fuck brags about have I got a v6, on this board.

>thank got I have a hertz tier charger and not a hellcat

>>16445674
o ok

>>16445718
my 2500 has a straight six diesel.

>>16445718
>buying a car for the performance, not the looks

Kill yourself

>>16445824

Sound can be part of the aesthetic of the car.

And V8 is great for that.

>>16443119
>>16443281

similar homosexuals

>>16440754
>avenger and dart
Does anyone besides Hertz buy those?

>>16445857
I agree.

But muh v6 is good enough for me, and the much better gas mileage is something i appreciate.

V8 is great. V6 is good enough. Barely, but good enough.

>>16445903
niggers

>>16446159
Can I make an appointment for 7? I need my hair dressed

>>16446201
Nah ill be fuckin ur mom at 7 AHAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO OUT!

>>16446214
moms dead, she tried to make a train crossing but didn't have the power. she also dressed hair.

>>16446228

I'll still be fuckin her :^)

>>16441870

t. jealous bus rider

>>16446247
Actually i am both Bo and Luke Duke.

>>16446238
the only pussy you'll hope to get with that trim option

>>16446264
Ur mom

Haha btfo

>>16446267
v6

haha btfo

>>16446279
V8 is for mancucks
V2 is the only engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND4EA0dnAM8

>>16446288
yes, that lawn ornament is better than your v6.

>>16446308
not him, i wouldn't buy a doublecuck v6 Challenger.
if it has to be 6 it's going to be 6 in a row.

>>16446328
pigfat

>>16446334
inherently balanced*

>>16446350
so is a boat anchor

>>16446279
Fag cuck
HAHAHAHAHA BTFO KEK

>>16446328
Cuck HAHAHAHAHA BTFO!!!!!

>>16446354
Yes well they should start using V6s then because they're heavier than I6.

>>16446356
still salty you bought a poorfag challenger lmao?

>>16446238
Hope you like sloppy seconds

>>16446362
Cuck lol

>>16446362
>V6s then because they're heavier than I6.
>implying they are not both shit and irrelevant

>>16446375
Cuck lol

>>16446378
>>implying they are not both shit and irrelevant
The bus you ride probably runs on an I6 tbqh.

>>16446378
>v8 cucks
Lol
>>16446383
Nice argument. BTFO out

>>16446386
>Nice argument. BTFO out
i know, i did btfo him didn't i?

>>16446383
>6 cylinders reserved for buses and hairdressers
thanks for proving my point cuck

>>16446396
and any pickup made before the mid 2000's.

>>16446391
KYS yourself cuck

>>16446401
>outdated as well
tfpmpc

>>16446405
lmao i didn't buy a V6 challenger, i have no reason to kms.
Why don't you trade in for a V8 unless you're poorfag

>>16446407
sorry your v6 is a piece of trash useful only as a boat anchor. Straight 6 torque monster rh

>>16446411
>sorry your v6
>your
sorry you can't follow a thread

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>>16446417
>buys a v6 cuckcar
lmao, almost as bad as Ford.

>>16446430
I agree
any 6 cylinder is shit

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>this thread

>>16446438
>mad 6 cyls a shit

>>16446446
this

>>16446451
that

>>16446457
You little btich

>>16446470
ur mom guzzles me cum fagit

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>>16446477

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>>16446500
9you0

>>16446411
>>16446435
Irregardless of what you say, your an idiot and should KYS imediately

>>16446610
v6 is less of an engine as irregardless is of a word

>>16446631
hi prezo

>>16446640
who?

>>16446631
Kys btfo

>>16446652
btfo

all cars made after 2003 are shit. they're soulless appliances that cocoon you into a false sense of confidence and security. basically tools of conformity and if anyone breaks the norm with a modern car they're to be dealt with swiftly with vigilante justice for triggering you with their out of the box behavior like driving spiritedly

>>16446644
master shitposter

>>16446687
>2003
that seems like an arbitrary choice of year. Let me guess, yours is a 2002 but you didn't want to say "all cars made after 2002" because it'd be too obvious, so you padded it with one year?

>>16446704
who the fuck cares about semantics the point still stands that cars of the modern era are shit

>>16446672
Btfo

>>16446720
btfo

gtfo

>>16446720
btfo

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bfto

>>16446734
>>16446737
BTFO

>>16446785
btFo

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>>16446785
>>16446789
>>16446737
>>16446734
>>16446720
>>16446672
>>16446652
btfo

>>16446811
btfo

>>16446816
btfo

>>16446820
btfo

>>16446820
btfo*
*if anyone replies to this post they are automatically btfo and I will remain unbtfo no takebacks swear on me nans grave i win no re gg

>>16446838
btfo

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>>16446841
i have immunity

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>>16446855

>>16446867
Btfo

>>16446845
btfo

>>16446877
FUCK YOU ANON
ALL HE WANTED WAS HIS COLLECTION OF MEMES
YOU TOOK IT FROM HIM
HIS LIVELIHOOD
ALL HE EVER LIVED FOR
STOLEN.

Anon... Get out.

>>16446946
btfo

>>16445824
Wut? I guess you're trolling?

>>16442135
Tbh this is pretty redpilling and thoroughly true

>>16447438
Kys btfo

>>16446435
fuck off

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>>16438173
>comfortable
>fun
>relatively cheap

Not liking Chargers is a bad opinion. Not everything has to be a track car.

>>16439397
>seadoo rxt is the fastest three seater on the market around a bouy course
>things sometimes fucking sink due to an exhaust hose blowing off
>still is the fucking apex of kickassery
Gotta pay to play, fagboy.

>>16439397
>not bragging about those things
That just means they're being used right.

>>16445718
Your retarted

>>16442123
I don't hate it, and I'm not one to yell pigfat, but 4500 lbs is just too heavy. Good for drag racing and highway pulls buts thats it. Cars with much less horsepower can keep up with a hellcat

>>16449219
But it looks better than 90% of all the cars on the road

And it looks better than 100% of all chink jap "cars"

Now kys there is no argument

>>16449258
>murica

>>16449457
Fag kys

>>16440754
never driven the v8, but i got a free "upgrade" to a normie/vvt challenger at enterprise a while back and it was god awful. It's a muscle car without muscle, but you still get all the body roll and pig fat. That and the paddle shift/manual mode was ass. it does look pretty good though.

>>16449575
no u

>>16449628
Manual mode is fine kys

>>16449633
Kys

>>16449628
Kys

>>16449680
no u.

the sxt trim is for niggers and poorfags aka people that would take out a high interest loan for a fake muscle car barely faster (if not slower) than any modern fwd econobox.

kek, buying an sxt is basically paying for everything bad about the higher trim levels and then going a step further by replacing the v8, the last redeeming factor of the car, with something far inferior so that you're basically left with a car that doesn't do any of the things it was designed to do in the first place.

And yes, the manual mode is ass. At least in the one I drove, it granny shifted and bucked like crazy when downshifting.

>>16449768
>being this btfo
>raging this hard
lel

didnt read any of that shit u wrote btw

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>>16449790
>he's already completely out of ammo
>being this much of an sxt owner

probably best to just forget this argument ever happened. Just imagine that it's a fast car, it's basically the same as buying the faster one, kek

>>16449829
>being this mad

>>16449843
You win. Your V6 Challeneger is better than my piece of crap v8 jap crap. Please stop bullying me now! Please!

>>16449849
i thought so. now fuck off faggot btfo

>>16439488
>shitswagen almost rock bottom
This makes me moist.

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>>16449853
>V6 Challenger
>Fast

>>16449871
Btfo

>>16449880
>Btfo
Sure kid.

Funny thing, stock for stock, the V6 Challenger / Charger can't hang with the 4th gen SHO...

>>16449893
Btfo

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>>16450013

>>16450070
Btfo

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>>16442411

>>16438173
>insert any vehicle made after the year 2000

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>>16450106

>>16450119
Btfo

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>>16450121

>>16449219
The hellcat weighs 4500 and the SRT392/Scat Pack weighs 4200.

Idk why you all keep bringing in lap times as an argument. Dodge never marketed the car as a sports car. Its a fucking muscle car with a shit load of power.

Its still pretty decent in the corners though, especially the SRT 392s with the 6 piston brembos and adaptive suspension

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Some of the FCA haters in this thread border mental illness.
Nearly all "reliability problems" modern FCA products have are either infotainment/bluetooth glitches or "Design-related problems" ("features that may be operating as intended but are poorly located or difficult to use").

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>>16450393
lmao@ dat gif

>>16441893
The Wrangler in particular is still riding the wave of the 4.0L AMC engine days. Since they never dramatically change the body style, retarded normies think their shitty JKU is as well built as a YJ or even TJ.

>>16450393
t. butthurt dart owner

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>this thread still going

V6 challenger haters BTFO ITT thread. Truly a fantastic vehicle

>>16440754
why the fuck would you show off the fact that you can't reverse park straight

>>16454832
Jelly of his car

>>16454832
you seem jealous

>tfw valet and have to park cars in the street
>drive FCA products almost every day

at least anything 2012 and newer when fiat really took over and started forcing their influence, they're nicer cars than people really give them credit for. 200, cherokee, grand cherokee, and caravans. even the older ones, while feeling cheap vs a similar japanese car still feel well-built and comfortable for what they are. i can get why so many people would buy them with good leasing deals. I wouldn't buy one over a Ford, but I'd lease one.

newer nissans in contrast feel like total fucking garbage. i'm driving 5-8 year old 40-60k mile altimas and maximas with blown balljoints and their SUVs feel fucking cheap, big, and bulky even compared to a similar year american car. they age like milk. they're korean-car tier to me...hell I'd even argue a 5-10 year old hyundai is nicer than a 5-10 y/o nissan

>>16455658
and to add, this is at a restaurant in a area full of white middle class people. a lot of the nissans I get are owned by elderly and middle aged people who wouldn't beat on their cars.

>>16439033
/Thread

Audi is just a VW but for dumbier. Overpriced as fuck, yes, it has good quality but nothing compared with BMW or Mercedes.

>>16441150
This.

I actually own a FiST and have been to a few meets and all the FiST owners are autist as fuck.

Normies don't even know what the fuck the FiST is, which is part of why I bought it. I'm practically invisible to cops, ricers, etc. in it.

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>>16456326
>it has good quality but nothing compared with BMW or Mercedes

>FCA is the only automaker that still puts several flavors of N/A V8 in their RWD sedans and coupes
>you can get a manual in the Challenger too
> less than $40k for a 485HP 6.4L V8
>/o/ hates this
????

>>16458503
The car is falling apart the moment it leaves dealership.

>>16458522
[citation needed]

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>>16458503
>you can get a manual in the Challenger too
You can also get manual in the Camaro and Mustang, wtf did you mean by this.

>>16458754
My point was more about the sedans

The new Kia thing has a TT V6.
The new Infiniti thing has a TT V6
You need to pay Audi or Mercedes over $60k for their cheapest V8s which are TT. BMW just axed the V8 550i.
Lexus will give you a N/A V8 in a GS for a cool $85k+.

GM just axed the only other car in this category: the SS.

Is there anyone else making affordable V8 sedans other than FCA now? Nope.
For $40k you can get a Charger with a bulletproof 485HP V8 or for $65k you can get with a 707HP V8. The Hellcat engine isn't as reliable as the N/A V8s, but for the money you get a 707HP V8 sedan with a warranty. I don't understand how anyone can fault FCA for that.