How come no aftermarket stereo manufacturers make elegant looking

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They don't?

Buy the one with the screen built in with GPS you cheap fuck

>>16413172
Nakamichi

>>16413180

Can I get one of those with a tube amp?

>>16413172
Because people only buy them for old cars.

Old cars = poor customers.

Poor customers = no screens.

Poor people usually like gaudy things too, trinkets and baubles to brighten their grey lives.

Hence gypsy colored headunits.

>>16413180
That's damned nice looking for sure! It's a shame it won't play CD's though. Kinda totally ruins it.

>>16413222

It won't play cassettes, either. So what's your point?

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>>16413206
>tube
My holy grail amp. One day. One day.

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>>16413210
correct

>>16413222
What sort of mongoloid is still using cds?

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>>16413172
Dynavin.

>>16413226
I use CD's. Bluetooth is shit. MP3 is shit. If you're going to drop $1500 on just a HU, you're going to drop $10,000 on your stereo. Any stereo is only as good as it's weakest link. MP3 is pure, unadulterated shit.

>inb4 lol no difference

If your stereo isn't good enough that you can't hear the difference between an MP3 and a CD, you have a shit-ton of work to do on said stereo. You just totally pissed away your money.

>>16413243
It's not impossible to use a better format from your stereo in your car. Take your CD elitist attitude elsewhere and I'll enjoy my equivilent music quality but much more space because my glovebox isn't full of CD's and full of drugs instead. Chyeah.

>>16413233
Are there any decent blu ray audio head units out there?

>>16413243
MP3 and FLAC are fine for audio books. but, yes not upto music.

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inb4 that dude recommending his DIY one-knob amp solution again

>>16413228
enjoy your distortion
solid state mang

>>16413265
>blu ray audio head units
What the fuck are you smoking? Just store everything on a micro SD card, I bought a 200gb for like 70 Canadian pesos last week

>>16413283
>>>16413265
>>blu ray audio head units
>What the fuck are you smoking?

My grandma once called it blu-ray. This guy may just be an old man with dementia.

>>16413243
>If your stereo isn't good enough that you can't hear the difference between an MP3 and a CD, you have a shit-ton of work to do on said stereo
Because you drive around in an isolation chamber where engine, wind, and road noise aren't a concern?

>>16413265
>FLAC
>Audiobooks
Fucking retards on /o/ I swear

>>16413172
that alpine you posted is pretty sick

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>>16413172

>>16413239
How do you drive with an accelerator like that, seems so annoying.

>>16413283
enjoy your shit sounding compressed music.

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>I have a tube amp
>tube amps have character
>etc

>>16413343
>caring about compression in a moving vehicle
I want audiophiles to fuck off and circle jerk over cable risers

>>16413338
I'd be more upset his nation has surrendered to the French, just look at that wheel position.

>>16413355
I bet you drive an auto as well and think it's as good as a real car.

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>>16413172

Look at one marketed for heavy duty commercial trucks. I had one in my rental work truck and it wasn't too ricey.

what the fuck is up with all the audiophilia ITT
bitch just cram all your mpwhatevers on a cd and boom done wow

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>>16413330
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there we go.

I always just get double din DVD receivers. A black screen fits in much better with modern cars than literally anything, even some factory garbage

>>16413401
> ((( SXM )))

what did they mean by this

>>16413444

Sirius XM

>>16413371
It's possible to own more than 1 car you poorfag teenager

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>go to look at a craigslist car near dusk
>finish inspecting the outside of it
>sun has gone down
>get in for a test drive
>turn it on
>ricey aftermarket stereo blasts me in the face with 200 lumens of blue LEDs
>mfw

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>>16413265
retard
>>16413243
retard
>>16413330
retard
>>16413343
retard
>>16413401
This. They're expensive though, used to install them into buses.
>>16413473
>not ripping it out and replacing with something more pleasing
then again you're the poorfag buying some craigslist shitbox, so I don't know what the fuck you're expecting. Most headunits worth their buck have autodimming features anyway.

If anyone here is still driving a car that doesn't have bluetooth audio, I feel bad for your misfortune.

>>16413180
can I get one that doesnt cost >$1000

>>16413497
Poorfag detector overload.

>>16413468
Auto cuck confermed, I fucking knew you were one from your belife compressed music isn't shit.

>>16413180
Way overpriced.

>>16413180

Why is it so expensive though

>>16413536
It's Sony. They sell $3000 mp3 players

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>>16413514
How's that, because I understand that audiophile-level audio systems in a car are retarded? Yeah, not putting in thousands upon thousands trying to make a tinbox sound like a recording studio, faggot.

>>16413180
>$1500 car stereo
Damn, I didn't know they still made ridiculously priced car stereos. Who or what is their target market? Anyone with that kind of disposable income probably has a newer car with a permanently installed factory info-tainment system. Anyone poor enough to still have a car with a single din receiver slot certainly is buying a $1500 head unit. Who the hell buys this?

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>>16413265
>MP3 and FLAC are fine for audio books. but, yes not upto music.

>>16413607

Does it make me retarded to have 2x12in subs in my trunk or just an attention whore?

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do you guys reckon i could ghetto-in a double din in that space?
there's nothing underneath the hu
pic isn't the one i'm buying

>>16413750
Yes.

>>16413737
Nobody who actually likes music uses mp3. And they sure as fuck don't use Bluetooth for anything except phone calls.

FLAC is cool though.

>>16413172
>an overall general style that doesn't complement ANY dashboard
That's all they've ever been, for the most part. There have been some okay looking ones here and there over the years, but not many.

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>>16413750
How is that related to audiophilic behaviour or trying to make your car sound like a recording studio?

Personally I don't think that's retarded, I have 2x15" and that's starting to be retarded, but hey, here I am, smiling.

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they do

>>16413808
>$2,000
>Used

>>16413802
>2x15s
>audio quality

Choose one. You like bass, and that's fine, but don't confuse loudness with quality.

>>16413750
Maybe a small 8" sub in a sealed enclosure to beef up the bottom end. But a couple of 12's pounding in your trunk is high school manchild levels of attention whoring.

>>16413824
This. I had to hand build a box for the back of my hellcat because the stock unit is way too niggery.

>>16413824
8"s are realy the perfect sub for a car I don't know why they don't get more love. By the time you get to 12 or above the sound is just too slopy and you have to over drive them for the size of "room " resulting in the balance being too base heavy.

>>16413756
guys
guys please

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>>16413820
Do you faggots even reading comprehension? Never claimed it was for audio quality. Tbqh it's for when people ask if I've done anything to the car audio -> turn up bass, watch them answer their own question. Also, I bought them on a whim and didn't know what I was getting into.

>>16413756
Yes,

>>16413677
Anyone know of a head unit infographic, or recommend a nice cheap one?

>>16413802
> here I am, smiling.

Guess that's what mattes, like the retards that think compressed audio is fine for music if they are happy with that shit they are welcome ot it, if you are happy with flabby base you are welcome to it.

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I'm going to use the same bluetooth amp/no head unit setup I have in my other car but I'm going to get a single din graphic eq to fill the old radio spot, does anyone make a nice one aside from Alpine? These old Alpine units sell for $250+

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>>16413893
>implying music can't have slight compression
Shows how much of an "audiophile" you are. Also that comment shows how much you actually know about physical audio components.
>all this generalization
Spend thousands upon thousand on DACs and amps that can go to unreasonable sampling rates and 32-bit depths if you want, you're wasting it all because a car isn't a fucking recording studio and your speakers and enclosures aren't going to be able to provide the "hi-fi" you're looking for either way. All you "audiophile"-faggots with your "I USE DIGITAL DISCS EXCLUUUUSIVELY BECAUSE I CAN HEAR THE DIFFERENCE OF THE DIGITAL SOURCE SIGNAL THROUGH THE ANALOG CONVERTER IN MY KIA C'EEDDD!!!" are making an ass of yourselves here, anyone with one brain cell can tell you that AptX and bitrates off audio on SD-cards and usb-memory will be indistinguishable from even the most high end outputs in the audio environment that is created in the confounds of any common automobile.

Be your generalization then that large subwoofer cones can only produce muddy or "flabby base" or that compressed audio is shit, you're still only making a generalization only someone with no experience in audio outside of gas-station gossip mimicked in a pan-asian cartoon eye drawing aficionado community would make.

>>16413520
Jesus fuck that spelling. Kill yourself you child.

>>16413975
Oh look another uneducated fuck who thinks he knows somthing. go back to /pol/ yeo are dragging the already low standard of /o/ down.

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>>16414013
>Your dashboard will never be lined in crushed velvet

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>>16414013
Proton is AWESOME. These are the amps I'm putting ony golf cart.

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>>16414029
Nice comeback anon, but that's a hook and I'm a fish that knows one.

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>>16414013
I have that EQ!

>>16414057
Damn, nice. I think an Alpine will look better in my car though

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>>16414065
I've got a metric fuckton of old school stereo components. PPI, Orion, HiFonics, Proton, MB Quart, JL Audio, Image Dynamics, and Linear Power.

>>16413473
>Bright ass blue
Walmart deck. The brand is Dual.I throw them in cars I'm getting rid of so I don't have to give up my better units.

>>16413497
>If anyone here is still driving a car that doesn't have bluetooth audio, I feel bad for your misfortune.

This. Nothing like not having to deal with shitty cables or ground wine.

>>16413808
My lord that's sexy.

>>16413901
My god I love older audio equipment.

>>16414057
So so sexy

>>16413473
turn the dimmer on your dunse

>>16413808
McIntosh pulled out of the car stereo marketplace. I think they still do some OEM stuff, but no longer any aftermarket at all.

>>16414109
Cheap stereos don't use the dimmer wire, you dunce.

>>16414127
You still have a brightness setting in the menu.

what's stopping me from putting an oem head unit into a car that it wasn't meant to be used on?
other than size and fitting of course
i.e the hu from a newer golf in a 3 series or something

>>16413243
because acoustics are so good in a car i just have to have my music in flac right? jesus what a cunt!
mp3 is more than good enough, you are sitting in a tin can for god's sake

>>16414138
Dual doesn't

>>16414171
Nothing. Fact is, if you're digging around in a junkyard, check every Lexus, Subaru, and Volvo you come across.

Options in each of those cars was Nakamichi (Lexus), McIntosh (Subaru), and Dynaudio (Volvo). Those stereos have better components than 95% of the shit that you'll find in a stereo shop nowadays.

>>16413243
If you don't like MP3 there are uncompressed audio formats that are capable of sound as good or better than CDs. CDs are shit, get with the times grandpa.

>>16414231
nice thanks anon
what about harnesses and all that jazz
can i just plug and play?
no restrictions at all?

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>>16413172
>nobody has said Kienzel yet
come on guys this should be within the first 3 replies
they make a whole bunch of others too that share a similar aesthetic

and they arent that expensive

>>16413343
>stupid enough to not realize that uncompressed audio formats exist and CDs are just uncompressed 16-bit 44100Hz digital audio burned on a disk.

>>16413233
>What sort of mongoloid is still using cds?

>tfw burned last CD about a week ago

My radio doesn´t take other stuff...

>>16414258
Pretty much just pull the harness with it. You'll need to take note of what you got it out of and look up the wiring diagram for the conversion.

>>16414262
this
this is the best looking new production headunit that can fit most cars before the mid 2000's well

saw one at an alfa romeo car showin a mid 70's model and it actually worked well...compared to the old boomers who go out and out sony xplod headunits in the same car because they just dont care

>>16414258
So long as you have the harness and have figured out what wire goes where, you're good to go.

Now, that said, some high end vehicles like Mercedes Benz operate their stereos via CANBUS. It's far more involved to get one of those working. Not impossible, but you had better be an electronics hobbyist.

For most of the stuff though, yeah, pretty much plug and play once you figure out the wiring.

The color codes on the back of a factory stereo will not be the same universal color codes though. Green may be ground instead of the Left Rear speaker. Orange may be Right Front speaker instead of illumination. Stuff like that. Figure that out FIRST, so you don't blow shit up.

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>>16414262
pic related is my interior (minus the extra gauges)
think it would look good?
I always wanted one of these in my old car, but the wires were hacked and slashed so I just stuck with second hand sony's for the sake of the same plug until I sold it

the current aftermarket headunit is chinese ebay garbage

>>16414282
and diagrams can be found anywhere on the internet yes?
i don't need to have both cars on me to pull it off?

>>16414300
what sort of equipment do i need to trial-and-error my way into the new hu before i start wiring it up into the dash?

>>16414352
>Diagrams can be found anywhere on the internet, yes?
Yep. I get mine from Modified life, usually. Sometimes they'll even be printed on the radio.

>What sort of equipment do I need to trial and error my way into the new head unit

A 12 volt adapter and an extra speaker. You can cheat with the ground by just grounding to the frame of the radio. Keep in mind there are TWO hots and both need to have power for the radio to turn on.

>>16414286
Nothing triggers me more than seeing new ricey head units in classic cars

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>>16414384
noted
what oem hus are just a rectangle without all mumbo jumbo?
i can think of modern vws(jetta,golf,passat),e38/9,some higher trim mitsus(current pajero and lancer,last gen outlander)
really anything basic that's worthy of all the hassle so something like pic related isn't something i'm going to try and pull off

i want to do this as a way to gain some experience with car electronics because i currently know -enough-

>>16413210
>tfw poor
>tfw like finer things in life, but can`t afford them

>>16414477
/o/ in a nutshell

>>16413716

Perhaps supercar owners?

>ugh, this stripped down track built car doesn`t EVEN have a radio, I don`t even....

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They dont?

>>16414183
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

>>16414662
TOPKEK!

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>>16413172
not even alpine makes things like that any more

>>16413243
nvm the scratches and having to keep them away from dust and sunlight
also that some cd players have shitty tolerance to reading though scratches or dealing with bumps in the road
high end disk man car kits ran at 4x the speed allowing a 30 second pre read buffer to sort out scratch filtering and any misread segments

>>16413243
>>>16413226
>I use CD's. Bluetooth is shit. MP3 is shit. If you're going to drop $1500 on just a HU, you're going to drop $10,000 on your stereo. Any stereo is only as good as it's weakest link. MP3 is pure, unadulterated shit.
>>inb4 lol no difference
>If your stereo isn't good enough that you can't hear the difference between an MP3 and a CD, you have a shit-ton of work to do on said stereo. You just totally pissed away your money.

FLAC, WAV & DSD file you fucking pleb.

>>16413265
Retarded cunts everywhere!

>>16414231
>McIntosh (Subaru)
When was this? The factory head unit in my 2007 is kinda shitty. Terrible sound even by car standards and the controls are plasticity bullshit.

>>16413497

I have this same HU in my 2000 CR-V. I like it, the BT works very well, it's not too busy looking, can color change it to match the orange color of the dials, and I paid like $90 for it.

>>16413781
More retards.

>>16413265
>audio books
you know they only include people speaking right ?
that and talk back radio kill most normal speakers very quickly
http://www.proav.de/index.html?http&&&www.proav.de/audio/speech-level.html

>>16414662
Is this cunt even serious?

>>16414828
>not seeing the obvious trollpost

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>>16414477
Same here, which is why I bought this - the Alpine UTE 72BT.

Cost me just 80 eurobucks some years ago and the button color glow can be disabled.

For a BT+MP3 headunit it was bretty good for my poor ass.

>>16415228
That looks terrible, but it could be worse.

>>16415236
Looks better in my car since the dashboard is mostly black rather than vomit gray.

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Posting this again.
Anyone know these models?

>>16413536
because it looks nice

if poor people can be fashionable then what's the point in being rich? if poor people can get fashion and luxury then where's the super-lucrative and easy to control market in fashion and luxury?

poor people need to be forced to buy things that are ugly so they can display that they are inferior and be reminded of it every day and so companies can mark their good shit up

>>16415693
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-DEX-P99RS-Stage-Reference-Receiver/dp/B003F0TK12

>>16415720
Hmm. OK that's the expensive one.
Thanks anyways man!

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Thoughts?

>>16414085
>MB Quart
This stuff was the shit back when I was in high school. Damn shame what happened to them though. Seems like any quality car audio maker is basically dead now. There used to be so many great brands, but now it's like a handful of companies actually try to innovate and care about sound quality. I think I'm going to cry when Alpine goes bankrupt.

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here's some alternatives that no one knows about.

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2/3

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3/3

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Hopefully one day I'll try making one similar to Sharka's.

>>16415869
That's a RetroSound stereo. They're $300+ and you don't even get bluetooth capability.

>>16415918
Bluetooth is pretty cheap & easy to add so long as it has RCA or 3.5mm aux inputs

>>16415918
Bluetooth is for making phone calls, not listening to music.

If your state requires hands free for phone calls, and for some reason, you can't be assed to press the speakerphone button on your phone, I get it. Other than that, why bother?

>>16413354
I have a tube amp for workstation use.
I got it because it is the best looking amp you can probs ever have. Sounds good enough for fidelio x2's.

Fuck getting audiophile equipment in a car.
Road noise, car noise, bad acoustics etc make sure you'll never have optimal quality.

Why polish a turd. Get a decent enough setup thats lightweight and can play eurobeat through aux jack/cd and you're golden.
Most of the time when driving fast youre gonna have audio turned off anyway.

>>16416877
Bluetooth is perfectly fine for listening to music in the car.

>>16416888
Only if you don't actually like listening to music and just want extra background noise to drown out the noise that your shitty econobox makes.

>>16414270
this.
No reason to solder on an aux jack, will be getting a new car soon anyway.

>>16414662
I know this copypasta.

But if you ignore all the made up words and shit, MP3 does degrade. Flac doesn't.
Unless you're one of those who uses spotify or listens to totally new music each year and never relistens old shit, FLAC cd rips a goat.

>>16415772
on thumb I was disgusted
After closer look its neat.

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>>16416900
Except that really doesn't happen. Unless your receiver is some $19.95 chinkshit and your car is some audio exhibition showcar instead of an actual DD you won't notice any discernible difference.

>>16416925
He's one of those guys that thinks technology never improves, I guess. Probably uses a fucking pager too.

>>16416915

rotational velocidensity does not apply to me, I have a SSD

>>16416925
The only people that can't hear a difference are those who are deaf as fuck, or those whose stereos have the fidelity of an alarm clock.

If you're deaf, sure. You can't hear a difference.

If your stereo is total and utter shit, with shit speakers, shit amps and shit processors, sure, you can't hear a difference.

At that point, stick with your stock radio that came with your car. There is NO reason to buy even one single piece of aftermarket audio gear. You'd just be pissing your money away.

>>16416933
theres no point in upgrading your car stereo above mediocre levels.
Unless you drive a rolls royce.

>>16416952
ITT we have no idea what the fuck Dynamat and sound deadening is.

>>16416933

Most cars, even shitboxes had pretty decent stock radios, what they lacked was features other than tape and maybe CD. THe problem with cars isn`t the soundsystem, but the fact that its a tin can with as much interior space as an outhouse. Even if you pad your car like a cell in the psychiatric ward there are still going to be background noises. Trying to get a "perfect" sound in a car is a meme.

>>16416964
>hey let's make my shitbox heavier so I can't hear the engine or what they tyres are doing
>hey lets make it even heavier so I can't hear anything

great idea.
Drive a luxury automatic car.
If you hoon/race at all, keep it stock.

>>16415228
what fucking dash is that

>>16416933
You're not wrong, the bluetooth audio protocol is lossy, meaning that some of the data is lost. However, it is also digital, meaning that the audio reproduction in the receiver is bit-exact the same data that was transmitted.

Listen with your special ears: You're not going to hear a difference. If you hear static over bluetooth you're doing something wrong. Any discernible difference that your can "hear" would be washed out by engine sounds anyway, unless you're one of those people who sit in their street at 5am with your car off booming to kanye west.

I'm sure your '04 civic with it's kicker(tm) speakers and boss(tm) receiver are swell and all, but the point is moot. With a modern phone and a modern receiver you're going to get the same quality regardless of input method.

If anything, your receiver would have a better DAC than your phone and you shouldn't be using your phone at all. You should totes have a CD rack in your car and be playing everything off physical media. If you can't tell the difference you might be deaf.

>>16416915
MP3 does not degrade. Lossy refers to the process of translating to the MP3 format, sacrificing data for smaller size. Once it's ripped, it is what it is, a file of 1s and 0s, that's all. Unless your HDD/SDD is failing and literally losing sections of itself, it is impossible for the file to "degrade".

>>16413243
It has a USB input you mongoloid. Keep all of your music in flac files

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heres mine op, its the closet match I could find

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>>16417100
Nice HU, I've got a very similar one. Kenwood HU's look pretty classy compared to their competition.

>>16417024
all files degrade. Its called bit-flipping. the only way to combat this is at the filesystem level; ZFS is really the only filesystem you should be using if you care about your data

I understand what's going on in this thread, and why all of these people say
>Bluetooth is good enough
when clearly it isn't.

They buy shittily recorded music that's compressed to hell and back (google The Loudness Wars), then they compress it further by converting it to MP3, then they compress it even further by listening to over Bluetooth into their shit stereos that have 37¢ DAC's, through shitty Chinese made amps and speakers.

They've literally never heard a good stereo in their entire lives.

So yeah, I get it. But please, for the love of God, stop commenting. You're like crabs in a bucket. Every single time someone wants something better in their lives, just because you've never had it, you pull them back down. You're acting like fucking ghetto niggers.

You *CAN* have a great sounding stereo in a car. It is possible. You just have to know what the fuck you're doing. And buying shit off of the Internet from SonicElectronix isn't going to get you there.

>>16413536
>>16413565
>>16415705

It plays DSD. for those out of the loop:

mp3<FLAC/WAV/CD<Cassette<vinyl<DSD<Live.

pls show me another DSD head unit if you think its so overpriced

>>16417148
DSD is the same format that SACD's use. It really is fucking incredible. And dude is right with the x<y<z comparison.

>>16417127
thanks I like the fact the cd slot is hidden on mine and you can get the colours to almost match the stock lights

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0l7dzB0y0

>2017
>Not listening to cassettes on a Kenwood KRC-999 MKII

>>16417148
>cassette and vinyl over anything
wew lad

>>16413716
>>16414517
boomers with old muscle cars

>>16417218
You're about 20 years behind the curve, friendo

>>16417132
>bit flipping at all comparable to what was described

Come on, man.

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Here you go.

>>16417861
Cant find any that ship to australia

>>16413716
People with boats?

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>>16413901
what setup do you use? im interested in the one dial aliexpress setup

>>16417861
They don't even make good tires, and they're a tire company. I wouldn't really trust them to make a radio worth a damn.

>>16417133
>thinking theres still people who dont know about the loudness wars meme
>thinking theres a difference between a good stereo and a bad stereo besides wattage and speaker drivers
>thinking audio compression and file compressions are the same thing

did i fall for bait

>>16417133
>They've literally never heard a good stereo in their entire lives.
Hey there ya pretentious mu fag stop pretending like you know what the fuck you are talking about after reading a few articles. Bluetooth is fine for the average vehicle, especially the older ones.

I have heard good stereo, very good as a matter of fact, I have also been in quite a few cars and can only think of a few quiet enough that you would really be able to hear the difference.

>>16418191
>Wattage

Literally the *least* important thing that makes for a good stereo

Please, stop commenting. You don't have any clue as to what you're talking about, and tbus acting like a ghetto nigger

>>16418204
>Read a few articles

I've been installed car stereos for 30 years, high end car stereos for 25. More than likely longer than you've been alive. I've sat in IASCA and MECA World Championship cars. My personal car has been called outstanding by those same Champions.

Stop being a ghetto nigger pulling people down because they appreciate and want something you don't appreciate or want.

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Since I can't find a reasonable price vintage graphic EQ I'm going to get one of these and run it through a Pyle amp, any recommendations for speakers for god tier audio?

>caring about audio equipment rather than the actual performance of your car

how does it feel to be fwd cucks and/or niggers?

>>16413756

Bro what does that writing say I don't understand german

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i want an visual equalizer so bad. like blue/pink miami style. but amazon aint sell shit like that

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>>16418459

>want 2 help
>translate hat shit
>see pic
>lmaoo / dying insde...

>>16418478
I have my eye on this one, might bid if I can get it for less than $300
http://www.ebay.com/itm/alpine-3339-electronic-graphic-eq-old-school-/252704738453?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

>>16418513
You'll love that one. A slightly newer version of that is the ERA-G320. Keep a look out for one of those as well.

>>16418558
You seem like you know your stuff, if I get one should I do device (ipod with isimple RCA out) -> amp -> eq -> speakers or device -> eq -> amp -> speakers?

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>>16417148
This faggot is talking about how the sound feels like vs audio quality. Cassettes and vinyls are for hipsters who want to hear hissing played on the background of their music.

>>16417132
This faggot here is serious but I don't know how or why

>>16416933
This faggot comes from an era pre-AptX and BT4.0, poor nigger must be confused, we're in 2017 now

>>16416915
Nigger doesn't understand compression, thinks data is some physical anomaly that has different charasteristics depending on its format

>>16416877
I think this is the same faggot as >>16416933

>>16417133
This idiot doesn't understand that bluetooth has achieved bitrates that won't be noticed unless you spend thousands upon thousands on equiptment to hear the difference. Personal note to this retard, read up on the technology you're criticizing before you come here thinking people actually listen to the rock and roll death metal shit that faggots can't even master properly.

>>16418409
So this faggot seriously expects everyone to line their cars with dynamat from top to bottom and to install DSP's and set distances and sizes for their speakers. We're talking about head units here, half of these faggots aren't going to even install an amplifier, but I guess they now can't listen to music because "you know better". Get off your high horse, your german made speaker cones measured in tune to vivaldi's farts aren't the hot shit everyone's looking for, faggot.

>>16418409
>My personal car has been called outstanding by those same Champions.
link? I'm sure its been published. Lets see it?

Seriously though, are you actually going to state that the average person, even a musician or fan of music is going to hear the limitations of bluetooth in 100,000 mile e46 or similar. If so you are completely full of shit.

You call somebody a ghetto nigger, yet you are involved in 'championship' car audio? Is there really anything more ghetto than that? I appreciate the work involved, but you really shouldn't be calling people a ghetto nigger, like calling somebody white trash while bragging about how well your chevy pickup does at the mud bog.

>>16418636
>car stereo competition

You just proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. None. Please stop posting about shit you have no idea about.

Car *STEREO* competition isn't ghetto monkey boom box SPL competition. SPL competition and stereo competition are two entirely different things. Garbage SPL bullshit isn't even stereo, it's mono and sounds like a very fucking loud fart box. There's zero musicality to those shitboxes whatsoever, and I fucking hate them. It's that bullshit that's destroyed the hobby that I love.

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>>16418596

>>16418586
There's a couple of different ways to go about this.

First thing would be justing doing a 3.5 mm to RCA, then plugging it into an amp. Doable for sure, and that's what I do when bench testing components, but it's not really ideal. You really want a preamp between your device and your amp. The Preamp makes controlling the volume a hell of a lot easier. There are all kinds of Preamps on the market that have inputs like that.

There is also another way that can get expensive, but is worlds better though, and that's to use a DSP. You can adapt your device to have I2S or Toslink output a pure digital signal, then feed that straight into the DSP, bypassing the shitty DAC in your phone. The sound quality goes up immensely, but your checkbook goes down by the same amount.

About the cheapest DSP you're going to find is a PPI DSP-88R at only $160, but they aren't the most reliable things on the planet. I've heard many a horror stories that they just plain fail for no apparent reason other than it's just random Chinese made shit. It's a shame too, because other than that, they'd have a winner on their hands. It's a LOT of control at an uber cheap price point.

>>16418786
Did babby get upset?

Most Audiophiles are completely full of shit and fail in ABX testing when asked to back up their claims.

in Double blind testing with CDs and Bluetooth 4.0 audtio there was no statistically significant ability for people to differentiate and identify which was which.

Human hearing just plain isn't as good as some people seem to think.

>>16418779
>Car *STEREO* competition isn't ghetto
Yes it is and you know this to be true unless you are extremely socially retarded

>It's that bullshit that's destroyed the hobby that I love.
Well at least you arnt as bad as a stance fag.

>>16418596

Nah, vinyls are for people who don't want to get the horrific CD master some houses shit out.

Looking straight at you U.E Nastasi. Sometimes he nails it, other times it's like he's grabbed a pair of API 2500, turned the ratio to infinity, set the threshold at -60 and called it a day.

You can't use a brick wall limiter on a vinyl cut as the risk of a straight section is too high so often the mastering on a vinyl repro is far more lenient than the CD master. Where a straight cut is made on the vinyl the needle will either lose tracking or jump out of the groove.

Other times there is not a single bee's dick worth of difference in the master between the CD cut and the vinyl cut.

Cassette is dead. Please let it die.

>>16413243
>"GUYS LOSSLESS MEDIA FUCKING SUCKS"
>uses compressed audio plastics

Why are a self titled audiophiles the most autistic, elitist and all around clueless group of people there is?

So many of them getting btfo itt
Enjoy dumping a years worth of burger flipper checks into your rusted shit box crown vic, your audio still sounds no better than Jamal in his $200 civic with a stolen kenwood head unit and two autozone speakers

>>16419105
There's just something about car audio and aquariums that attracts people like that

>>16419122
Lol I forgot about aquarium people they are literally the worst

>>16419148
Didnt know that. Explain...

>>16419160
It's just the same kind of shit as with car audio

>hey thinking about getting a goldfish for my kids, what is a good size bowl?

>WHAT?! YOU NEED AT LEAST A 300 GALLON PLEXIGLASS TANK WITH LIVE PLANTS, UV FILTERING, AND CLEAN IT EVERY 6 HOURS
Go look at an aquarium forum, you'll see people with 50k posts flipping out about nothing all day

>>16419160
>look at my new fish this cost $600 and eats this one's shit Omg also my new underwater led light that cost $1600 and muh new sandcastle etc etc

my go to double din head unit is the
KW-AVX640

it has infinitly adjustable lights and u can set them to a timer and dimmness if u want them on at all. it plays dvds and it is just a regular looking black so it looks like top trim stock

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There's a few of these on ebay right now, maybe I'll go this route if I can't find a good Alpine eq

>>16418459
heh

>>16413172
They all cost >$1000

>>16419262
That's a fucking nice piece. A PPI PAR-224, 225 or 245 would also do what you need.

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>>16419367
Damn this shit is maximum 80s
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Precision-Power-PPi-EPX-205-Equalizer-Sound-Processor-OLD-SCHOOL-RARE-NEW-/172439181827?hash=item28262d1a03:g:n0EAAOSwImRYQHFe

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>>16419400
Carolyn Hall Young, one of the kindest people you will ever meet, was the artist behind all of the PPI Art. She recently passed away. It was a great loss to the Car Audio community. She really was a special lady.

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from a local ad. Any of these worth the $$?

>>16419461
The Alpines are always worth something

>>16419461
There's a couple of Alpines there towards the center that are probably okay. If an Alpine has CDA in front of the number, ie CDA-9847 or no letters at all, ie, 7905, then it's usually a pretty good unit.

All Alpines that have a 9 as the second number are absolute god-tier. 7903, 7909, 7939, 7990, 9965, etc.

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>>16419497
>>16419507
kk thanks. by "good unit", do you mean it has a good DAC, more kewl features, or exactly what? what makes Alpine better than other units?

t.noob

>>16417100
i REALLY like those lights down by the pedals

>>16419507
I have a couple of alpines the same style as OP's but being cassette players (so probs allot older)

Worth anything?

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I have a little bluetooth receiver module behind the dash that runs through a Pioneer digital signal processor into my amps.

>>16419620
>cassette players

No, not really

>>16419191
>Go look at an aquarium forum, you'll see people with 50k posts flipping out about nothing all day

As opposed to 4chan/o/, where you'll see 50k posts of people flipping out about nothing all day?

>>16419620
It totally depends. A lot of the problems with 30 year old tape decks are, well, they're 30 years old. Capacitors fail, belts stretch, LCD's go out. Even if working, they still need a "freshening up", so to speak.

I do like old Alpine units though, just because I think they look good. My burner E-mail address is [email protected]

If you want to, take some pics of what you have, we might can talk.

>>16414686
i have this radio in pic related its shit

any recs for a single din that can go through folders without the drama?
here's my setup
root folder/artist/album/track
or root folder/mixed

>>16419805
When I got my wife her 2000 CR-V, it had an Explode in there. Sounded like total, absolute, utter shit. It was so bad, I thought the speakers were dry rotted or damaged somehow.

Checked the speakers, they were fine.

Went on eBay, scored a lightly used Alpine for $60, stuck it in.
HO.LE.SHIT.
Total transformation. One wouldn't think that a simple HU switch could change the sound that much, but it really did.

Sony isn't called "Explode" for nothing.

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this is the nicest head unit i have ever owned. ran a focal setup with it, was a fucking animal and looked nice too, could customize all the colours and display animations, never skipped a beat.

>>16418393
>how do i calculate things

>>16414013
w-what car is this?

>>16414270
As long as you don't have the option to not use it, it's okay in my book anon

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>>16420516
aston martin lagonda