Why won't car manufacturers offer AWD on their economy cars

>>16368815
unnecceecery

They probably expect you to just use snow tires.

>>16368828
AWD wont help you there bud

>>16368816
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Because folks who buy economy cars most often live in a city with little need for it.

Another, perhaps bigger, reason is that people who buy economy cars want to pay as little as possible, and AWD makes a car more expensive in both purchase and ownership

The nips keep the good stuff for themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shJtd-e5R1g

A proper AWD system cost a fortune and is pretty heavy. Haldex crap is only good for going a bit faster in the straights.

>>16368815
keep cost down and maximize profits

>tfw rav4 with awd

it's a really fun momcar

I've been sliding round all winter now

>>16369364
I have a 2004 rav4 vvt-i
It's a pretty gud car, grips so well I'm not sure if it's magical or not. Beaten every car in the snow so far.
Only fly in the honey pot is automatic.

>>16369370
yeah mine's a 2006

the auto is fine because you can just apply more and more gas and and up fine

I wish I did have the manual one tho

>>16369381
I hate the auto so much.
In snow you should lock it in second to avoid retarded shifts. In second mine is good from 0kph to 120+kph.
But low speed corners are outside the powerband and my track has a couple of them.

And throttle response when not goin fast is non-existant. I've lost 2 seconds on a laptime because it was a start from standstill, kicked in the throttle, waited 2 seconds and then the car went.

It's slow to get going but once it gets going it aint gonna stop.
Unless it understeers into a fucking tree.
Which it did last time we were shooting footage.
(my handbrake doesn't work anymore)

Where are you based?

Good guy Subaru

With an auto/cvt you get a shitty FWD biased computer controlled AWD

With a manual you get proper mechanical 50/50 split AWD, fun as fuck in snow holy cow

The understeer is a meme with manual, if you're familiar with driving dynamics, weight transfer, etc., you can go slideways around every corner

>>16368815
Because they'd rather sell them a crossover with higher profit margins instead. Because awd is a meme

>>16368815
Because its just another "FEATURE" like Galaxy's always on display. Not necessary but cool to have.

>>16368815
AWD
>More expensive
>More parts and more complicated
>More expensive to repair
Meme layout

But they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIhSOoFE3Pw

>>16368900
HOLY FUCKING SHIT is that a RWD biased AWD? The rear wheels spun first.

>>16369639
>Challenger
>economy car
M8 stop drinking and have fun, it's Christmas.

>>16370000

Well, the Dart is gone.

So, technically...

>>16368828
AWD with summer tires on snow is easily beaten by RWD/FWD cars with snow tires.

>>16369604
Not to mention the fuel economy. I think economy cars ought to remain RWD/FWD and leave AWD for performance oriented cars.

>>16368815
Mitsubishi does

>>16370046
Normies don't buy summer tires, they buy all seasons.

>>16369990

Nope, Not with a transverse engine. The other front tire was probably spinning first.

>>16370046

No new cars here come with summer tires. Same goes for anywhere where it might snow.

>>16368881
this
>>16369346
this

>>16369556
What you've said is true of some Subaru, but not all of them. There's a good site that explains the different systems in various Subaru models, but I'm on the phone. If this thread is up when I get home I'll post it.

Case in point, my Subaru is automatic and my AWD is 55/45 rwd biased.

>>16370211
>what is mustang GT PP

Cause fuel economy. An AWD Suzuki aerio or SX4 or Kizashi is quite a bit worse on gas than the FWD versions.

"HEY LETS WASTE GAS ON OUR GAS SAVERS SO WE'RE COOL TO YOUNG BUYERS"

It's a luxury. You do not need AWD except for off road and extreme snow. That's why the feature is found only on Acuras and Lexus, not the cheap cars. X-Drive and 4Matic are also very nice, again you pay $$$$ for something you simply do not need. No different than heated seats or a big touchscreen infotainment.

>>16368815
Because AWD kills fuel consumption which is the entire purpose of an economy car.

Jag does

>>16370558
Good work telling people what they need and don't need

>>16370207
>>16369990
From what I can research, the Axela is using the "i-Activ AWD" system found on CX-3/5/9 models.

It's an on-demand "intelligent FWD-slip-and-switch-to-AWD" system, like in the CR-V and most other crossovers.

Mazda i-Active AWD presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPyRCkt1GHw