I am not a body specialist but are these cars even safe afte

>trusting slavic techno-magic
yes

>>16343801
You have to admit, he has some craftsmanship
I figured when the frame is bent, the car is finished

These kind of cars go into the countries around russia and are described as
>1 owner
>original milage
>no damage, no rust

>>16343793
I'll give you 1k for that car. And that's being generous.

>>16343793
no fucking way can you trust repairs like this. Once the frame metal is bent and destroyed, theres no way this backwoods slav is gonna be able to make that metal as strong as it was before the crash

>>16343801
What's with this "slavic" meme? The best mechanics and body men I've come across have been from Eastern European countries.

eastern european here
around 40% of the pre used luxury cars here have been crash damaged and fixed at some point
people are often importing writeoffs from the US, fixing them up and selling like new
my dad used to own a crash damaged 7 series, the car had no problems but you could tell the whole left side had been repainted

>>16343793
>safe
truely spoken like a cuck.

>>16343881
This.

I'll buy it for cheap as a beater. Beats a 3k Civic, but I'm not gonna rely on it as my primary vehicle.

>>16343793
To be honest, I suspect the whole "frame is damaged, the car is trashed" thing is a partial meme propagated by insurance companies/auto manufacturers to get people to just buy new vehicles. There is zero mechanism by which trivial damage to the frame near the bumper would compromise the integrity of the entire chassis. It's a piece of steel. You can yank it back into place with some reduced rigidity (often done with ratchet straps and a tree) or you can just repair it yourself

Maybe it also has something to do with the excessive litigation in the Western world. Either way, it's not that big of a deal. One of my motorcycles has a bent frame and it means nothing.

>>16343989
My mom's dishwasher had a bent frame and it worked perfectly for 5months until it started leaking.... from the bent part of the frame.

>>16343960
It actually gets stronger after bending it back.
You shouldn't talk that big when you don't know.

>>16344001

>>Bending and crumpling steel and alloys

>>Bending them back without any kind of forging or heat treatment

>>even stronger

Dude, what? You have gotta be a troll.

>>16343960
You should start kicking your shinbone into a concrete pillar to strenghten your bone with microfractures. You seem like the kind of person to do that.

>>16343989
Nah. Metal fatigue is a thing. I'm an aircraft inspector, 75% of my job is looking for signs of fatigue. While aluminum doesn't handle fatigue as well as steel, a steel unibody that had been yanked back into shape will be nowhere near as strong as it was from the factory. Modern cars are designed to absorb an impact safely and get thrown away. If the crumple zones have been crushed or the rigid parts of the cabin bent the crash cell is no longer as safe as it was sold to be. The car is deemed a total loss and thrown away because the insurance company's objective is for it to be as safe as it was from the factory after a repair, or scrapped. They have to pay if it isn't as safe and injuries result, so the scrapping of crashed cars makes perfect sense.

It is certainly possible to make a car driveable after a crash that activates crumple zones or damages the crash cell, but if you were to measure things like torsional rigidity between the repaired car and an undamaged one, there would be losses. A repair that makes it as strong and stiff as it was from the factory would involve added reinforcement, not just bending the metal back to its original shape.

>>16344001
You're a tard

>>16344053
that does work for bones but not for steel

>>16343964
Way to be defensive. Le slav meme is usually half mockingly but with some degree of admiration of the down to earth no shits given attitude and craftiness of snow nigras.

>>16344001
When they say they fold katanas 1000 times they don't mean it that way dumbass, lmao

>>16343998
>>comparing a dishwasher to a car

idiot

>>16345090
>they both don't have steel frames that compromise the integrity of the whole appliance if damaged

Learn.

>>16345127
>implying you could possibly compare such two completely different things

>>16344001
have you ever bent a paperclip back and forth?

>>16345598
>implying some bikes dont have fluid filled frames where this can be an issue

>>16344001
You're right, but because it's been deformed it has lower cross sectional area making it ultimately weaker.

>>16344078
Steel has infinite fatigue life at a certain cross sectional area to load ratio. Doesn't matter if you work it or not. If it's still in that ratio it will have suffered no fatigue.

>>16343816
nope everything can be saved with enough time source i work in a body shop seen worse cars then that

>>16343793

Probably not. Cars NEVER EVER drive the same after they've been repaired from a serious collision. At the bare minimum they'll squeak and rattle and the body gaps will be fucked.

>>16345714
Creased and crumpled sheet metal is beyond "worked"