A part of me. Deep down inside. Really like the Hyundai Veloster

Yeah, a bit.

Get a Fiesta ST.

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> wanting korean garbage

>>16330124
Yes. You could buy a much faster/more fun car for less money if you had cash.

>>16330124
it looks like a teen's teary face after getting throatfucked.

I have one, it's okay. You have to acknowledge that it isn't a sports car, it isn't a hot hatch. It's a commuter with a bit more kick. Decent millage, fairly comfy, and the hatch is nice.

Why are OEM wheels always so fucking god awful

>>16330124

If you want a weird Hyundai, get an Elantra Touring. It's a Tiburon drivetrain with a wagon body dropped on it. An intake, Saab turbo kit ($2000), and ECU tune will get it pushing BRZ performance out of something people expect nothing of. Not to say that the BRZ is a high performance car, but it will nonetheless be fun.

>>16332048
That sounds very interesting

no fast
no build quality
no fun

I mean, if you want a hideous, slow, fat piece of Korean trash designed for college girls, then fine.

>>16332044
>Korean "design"

>>16330124
my gf ownes one, the fiesta st is better but the veloster turbo is still a really good car and comes with a bunch of shit normies like for notthat much so i guess there's that. also the depreciation means these things go for dirt cheap with low km on them.

>>16330124
You are retarded but the car is irrelevant

>>16333329
Decent stereo and the heated seats are nice.

I went to test drive one for shit and giggles and man was it bad.

>build quality so bad it makes subaru look like lexus
>vague rubbery shifter
>no power
>24k

Id rather a honda fit

>>16337214
This
Had a very similar experience

>>16337265
It would be acceptable at like 16k, but for 24k, the koreans deserve all the shit they get

>>16330124
get a focus ST instead

>>16330124
i have a n/a one. its not bad except for the throttle response (which could be tuned) and the weird rear suspention which is semi-ridged

>>16337214
don't know what you're on about. ive been driving an s2000 for 3 years now, it's an 00' which means it's a very raw driving experience and it has one of the best regarded shifters in a manual tranny. there is literally nothing wrong with the way the veloster shifts. very short and precise and the spacing on the shifts is really nice. it's very similar to the s2000 actually. And assuming you're talking about a new car what shitty build quality could you possibly be referring to? if something is loose/broken on a car with warranty, you take it to the dealer and they fix it. Everything mechanical feels very tight in this car.
also it has the same power as every car in its class?
>inb4 focus st
it's significantly more expensive and i know someone that has one and he's gone through 3 transmissions under 60,000 miles.

>>16337722
Focus ST? It's slower than a Fiesta ST, and more expensive.

Also, personal anecdotes regarding friend who can't drive's experience with a car need not apply.

>>16337736
>personal anecdotes regarding friend who can't drive's experience with a car need not apply.

https://www.change.org/p/ford-ceo-mark-fields-ford-recall-faulty-focus-and-fiesta-transmissions

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>>16337843
>what did they mean by this?

STs are all manuals and MY13 or newer.

>>16337890
OH ok, so the normie Fiesta/Focus AND the FiST/FoST models are dogshit...

http://jalopnik.com/ford-focus-st-forum-complaints-result-in-wiring-harnes-1622529308

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Apparently I like mine note than everybody else here that claims to have one.

Yes, it is slow. Yes, you shoukd opt for the turbo if you care. Yes, blindspots are a bitch. No, interior quality is not dogshit. Yes, it is cheap, yes the dealer will have tons of rebates on it if buying new. Yes, it is even cheaper used. No, you shouldn't buy one right now, yes, a new one is coming SOON that is apparently going to me mid-engined and a bona fide hot hatch.

>>16330124
the veloster will be cheaper second hand and just as fast as any other ricer in his STd

>>16337919
>like mine more
>you should opt

Damn Korean phone...

I like them too but for me its the whole hothatch deal.
Ive been wanting a small hatchback for awhile now.

But ill probably end up getting a Fiesta ST or a Volvo C30

>>16337910
lol, a wiring harness recall for the Focus that any dealership will replace for you for free?

Come on m8, it's like you're not even trying here. The Fiesta has one documented issue really, a faulty blend door actuator which is covered under warranty.

Literally 0 mechanical issues aside from people who go to forums complaining of a faulty clutch or transmission because they can't drive, or modded their car as to make it unreliable and are now complaining about their clutch issues not being covered under warranty.

Ford has eaten everyone else's lunch in this segment by offering affordable speed, with a nice blend of economy and amenity.

The ONLY recall the Hyundai Veloster has is for the panoramic roof shattering if you have one of those as an option.

So apparently the South Koreans know how to make a more mechanically sound car than the Americans. Yet bitches like you will cone here and defend Ford and GM's shit for free, without any payroll.

>>16337971
>ejecto sunroofo cuz

vs

>wiring harness recall

or

>faulty blend door actuator

You still haven't shown me a single negative about the Fiesta ST, the Focus is simply the brutish and less desirable cousin.

>>16337995
>sunroof that is an optional feature

v.

>transmission that is standard on all "MY13 and newer"

Get fucked, Ford shill.

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>>16338000
lol, what transmission issues though? The DCT issues from MY11 and MY12?

>hyundai """"""""performance"""""""""

>>16338012
Being slow isn't a recall.

>Ford """""'"'''reliability"""""""''''''

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>>16338012
>mustang

>>16338000
You realize that DCT isn't a transmission option in the ST's, right?

Secondly, that DCT was from a company that Ford and many other manufacturers used. All the brands that used that company's DCT had issues and now hey don't use them any more.

>>16337924
Well, korean vehicles aren't any better

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>>16338012
Look at the quarter mile times though and also look at the 2.0 BPH and Power to weight compaired to the Mustang

Ford has no appeal to me. I'm kind of curious why there isn't a Honda Fit "ST". I would buy that.

>>16337722
Have you felt the materials? The door handles that feel like plastic from bootleg Chinese toys. Coming from a fellow s2k owner I'm kinda shocked

>>16337921
>just as fast as a st

In your delusions?

>>16337280
Got mine for 12~13 used. Just a couple cosmetic dings. Makes it seem much more reasonable

>>16338701
The handle feels fine IMO. Things I'd actually complain about are the weird floppy "cowls" on the gauges, or the stupid bar things in front of the shifter.

>>16338714
What about the awkward seatbelt tensioner for the drivers side? Or the Bluetooth failing to connect every other startup?

>>16338737
Haven't had any issues with the seatbelt arm, I was having the BT fail occasionally when I switched from my Moto X to an S7, but it stopped happening after a system update (on the phone).

>>16337722
You post this same rubbish in every veloster thread.

Stop trying to justify the vehicle.

>>16333227
/thread

Veloster is an Accent with a more stylish skin.

Same as...
The Scirocco is a Golf with a more stylish skin.
The CLS is an E-Class with a more stylish skin.
The R8 is a Gallardo with a more stylish skin.
The Escalade is a Suburban with a more stylish skin.

Veloster isn't a bad car. People look at it and project expectations onto it that it was never designed to meet in the first place.