Why are Mustangs and Camaros so unpopular in drifting compared

You're comparing two different types of vehicle.

American racing heritage was born of stock car racing (muh bootleggers) and drag racing, and their sport vehicles reflect this heritage. And of course American companies being all fucking about MUH HERITAGE their vehicles reflect this.

Noone gave a fuck about dorifto, so no one made a car for dorifto.

>>16283864
Expensive
A 3k Silvia or skyline is perfect for the job
Even foxes and ls1 maros need a bit of work

>>16283879
With exception to maybe the GT86/BRZ, I don't think any car has ever been "made" for doriftu out of the factory. But pretty much any FR car will do it well out of the box, even old Volvos.

Drifting wasn't a sport in Germany, but that hasn't stopped the BMW 3-series from being one of the most popular drift cars worldwide.

>>16283887
We're talking burgerland drifting right now, guy. There are no 3k Skylines

Why don't we ever see mr2's being drifted?

>>16283864
Don't a lot of them have live rear axles? I can't imagine no rear camber would be very conductive for drifting.

>>16283901
Oh, foxes and ls1 maros still a Damn good choice though

>>16283910
Live rear means they can have the absolute shit flogged out of them

>>16283910
you dont even need rear camber for drifting

most run close to 0 degrees

>>16283910
Can you really not adjust camber on LRA's?

4th gen Camaros have IRS, not sure about turd gens.
>>16283909
Short wheelbase + rear weight bias = very difficult to drift

Look up "snap oversteer." Porsche 911's used to be very bad for this.

>>16283926
But you would think at least a few pro drifters would use mr2 to be special snowflake

>>16283864
>solid axle
>heavy
>sloppy steering
>bad weight distribution
if you have the money to fix the above then you could have a decent drift car. this is why they aren't common, you can pay a lot less money to have a good drift car

>>16283934
because having the engine over the tires you're trying to lose traction on, and very little weight in the front is good for drifting

>>16283937
>solid axle
AE86 has a solid axle and is one of the most popular drift cars of them all
>heavy
Foxbody Mustangs can be brought under 3000lbs with very little stripping. Not a super light car, but hardly unwieldy
>sloppy steering
Can't argue since I've never driven one. Are there aftermarket steering racks?
>weight dist
They're typically within the ballpark of 55:45 which is perfectly fine for drifting. Most FR cars are slightly nose heavy.

>>16283944
>what is snap oversteer

>>16283965
yes but you see youre dealing with a worse platform in every way

why start out with complete shit when a S chassis is cheaper to build for it while being a better starting point

thats why most dont fuck with it

>>16283864
Uh, foxbodies are the best kept secret in drifting dude.

>>16284014
>best kept secret

maybe in 2011

How well do 4th gen Camaros drift?

>>16284014
>>16284024
Yeah, every one I've seen is trashed or 10k

>>16283864
>expendable
Fuck you nigger, stop considering cool cars expendable.
Go drift some ugly pos instead.

>>16285493
fuck off

Mustangs are lame normie cars that are everywhere

>>16285493
Destroying them makes them more valuable. He knows what he's got.

>>16285499
So is every single mass produced car ever built.
Go get a bicycle.

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They're heavy as shit and rather long. Plus, they're American cars and Americans prefer to go fast in a straight line rather than around a corner.

>>16283990
>s-chassis
>replace every piece of suspension with Z32 parts or aftermarket refab

Foxbody/SN95/NewEdge all have noodle chassis though, so you need subframe connectors to begin even thinking about doing shit with them
Turd Gens need an LS swap because Lt1s are fucking anchors

Most stateside S-chassis need a SR20/CA18DET swap because its still competitive on cost vs reward on homeboosting a KA24

There is a very early cutoff point in building a KA where you realize with all the extra money you put into it you could have had a swap done and just thrown money at much cheaper bolt ons

Also the pony cars need custom shit and cutting, which is a lot more aggravating than just bolting another cars suspension underneath an S-chassis

>>16283864
Too heavy and clunky.

Because american garbage is literally useless for anything that's not going in a straight line.

>>16283981
it's called snap oversteer, not very conducive to a controlled oversteer

>>16283864
They're heavy and sluggish with shit suspension.

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>>16283910
heres your 1-3 degrees camber on a live axle

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>>16286491
>faster than new NSX with less power, RWD, and a manual

>>16283864
except that half the cars in formula d are stangs


kys

Oy m8
https://youtu.be/EphjLzP0OT0

>>16285493
There are millions of the fucking things which are already horribly modded/damaged/huge mileags. Expendable.

>>16283901
He's probably from a country that isn't full of Mexicans who glorify Skylines and s chassis cars i.e. Australia