>"hey lets slam the brakes eh that should help"

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Always fun to see vids like these from areas that don't usually get snow and ice

>>16273802
No balls! NO BAALLLLSSS!

>>16273790
This is why winter-tires are mandatory in some contrys.
Also deflating the tires a bit gives you a bit more traction.

>>16273802
this was in montreal dumbfuck

>>16273802
its montreal lel

>no relief around leafs

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>>16273830
>>16273833
Well fuck, then whats their excuse?

>>16273790
Just drive in a lower gear than usual and slow down
Winter tires if you want

I don't know how dumb fucks live in the winter

>>16273965

It's amazing, really. Basic shit, and they can't do it no matter how many years they experience the same conditions.

>>16273965
You forgot no rapid accelerations.
But indeed it is pretty basic stuff.

>>16273873
Our snow plows/winter street cleaning guys are never on their game combined with people forgetting how to drive whenever the snow comes back. On that street the guys who throw down the road salt only did the opposite side and fucked off. Most of them probably didn't have their winter tires on as well, they're legally required to only by the 15th of December.

>No one uses uses snow tyres except the plow man

>>16274017
*not even

>>16273833
>>16273830
>>16273873
Montreal?

I'm like 200 miles south in NY how the fuck can these people be worse?

>>16274001
>You forgot no rapid accelerations
But then you don't get hektik tofu skids

>>16274017
90% of all cars are fitted with all seasons. Winter tires wouldn't have prevented any of this. You think the city (and people) are gonna have all their cars demounted and mounted with winter tires?

>>16274065
>hektik tofu skids
Most people will fuck up those.
If you realy want to do skids drive on a empty parking lot.

Ice is ice, on a hill like that unless you had chains or studded tires you'd be sliding as well.

>>16273790
Funny, its illegal in Quebec not to have snow tires on at this time of year.

>>16274097
Nordic-friction class studless tires should've done just fine, unless my eyes deceive me and that hill is covered in absolutely "fine polished" ice with water or dry powder snow ontop

That shit is the worst

>>16274115
Oh fuck, its illegal in 10 days, my bad.

Still you'd think at least the police would have them on.

>>16274115
montreal isn't quebec?

voyons donc

>>16274128
What? Montreal is IN quebec?

Maybe your thinking of Quebec city?

>>16274086
That's what I'm doing after work tomorrow in the ferd assuming it snows. My battery exploded last time it snowed so I need to get my fill of donuts

>>16274117
The way everything is sliding, it looks like a slippery layer of black ice to me with just a bit of snow sprinkled on.

Not much to do in that situation other than ride it down, or take your foot of the brake and hope the steering tires get enough traction to let you avoid the obstacles.

>>16274147
Sadly there is no snow in my area yet and my car is a FWD econobox.

>>16274055
You're right I just watched again

>>16274163
You do some e brake sliding.

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>>16274017
fucking plow man doesn't even need snow tires

he has the ultimate brake

>a fucking plow

>mfw quebecois can't drive for shit

>>16274180
Indeed, I will do some soon.
At least it still has a hanbrake.

>gets to the plow truck
Oh fucking man that was the best part.

>>16274072
actually required in canada

>>16274205
>>16274179
>>16274017
>>16274055

Plow-man got stuck on my street last winter, I considered helping plow-man but RWD Ranger so I'd have probably just made things worse

>>16274232
With chains you should have been able to help.

>>16274153
You could be right.

Remimds me of last winter when I was heading up the mountain road to drop off some keys. On the longest "straight" I see a red Starcraft on yellow plates coming down the road, and I notice that its moving slow and weirdly. As it passes I can see the wheels all locked up, with the driver frantically shouting to the passengers, just sliding down the road

Luckily the road leveled a little bit out further down, and had also been gritted recently

>>16274246
Illegal where I live, and studded tires :(

Was also a F-650 or some shit, no way I'd have done shit

>>16274258
>snow chains illegal
dafaq
How would the cops get you anyway when they can´t even drive?

>>16273790

What the fuck. This is Canada. How the fuck do none of these stupid assholes know what to do? Not even driving wise. If the hill is that bad all the police have to do is shut the fucking road down at the top of the hill. I would expect to see this sort of retardation out of Atlanta or something, but this just proves Canadians are fucking stupid.

>>16274258
Anything is better than nothing.

My Merc would several times be able to make bigger cars come out of a ditch or similar. Elastic recovery rope with good timing from the stuck car can do wonders

>>16274285
>>snow chains illegal
>dafaq


Yeah fucking studs and chains are banned because they "ruin" the road. It's really stupid IMO, because the majority aren't going to run either anyways (not even half use fucking snows), thereby hardly ruining the road.

>>16274289
Yeah its true, I dont deny it. But there was a good 40cm of snow, I'd have gotten stuck getting to them, let alone pulling them

But winter tires are mandatory in quebec

>>16274006

>15th December

Wow. I visited Switzerland on the 9thNOV and in more elevated areas people already were throwing on chains

>>16274298
t.
knows nothing about road construction

>>16274298
How could you harm the roads when they are covered in snow an ice?
Where i live they are only legal if there is snow and only up to a certain speed.

>>16274315
Yeah I don't at all desu

Most places in my country allow them, even ones who get less snow, its just fucking dumb

>>16274306
Heh, then you'd probably be of no help

40cm of snow and you'd get stuck? What kind of tires are you/were you running?

Or do RWD Rangers sit stupidly low?

>>16274318
idk man

I just happen to live in the only province in canada who thought it was a good idea to ban them

Literally the only one

>>16273873

See, Queerbec passed their mandatory snow tire law a few years ago, and ever since then they've slowly, slowly slowly stripped away the winter maintenance budget. Add to the fact that bigger cities like Montreal are old and not really designed for bigger vehicles, traditional plows don't fit in the streets nicely, making it hard for them to do anything to begin with.

Its a very slippery slope.

>>16274334
>snowchaines banned
>in canada
TOPKEK

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>>16274331
I had just gotten the truck and it was mid-febuary

Heres a pic of said tires before I got rid of the shits

>>16274321
what country?

>>16274351
That would be illegal in my country and isn´t a good way to drive especially in the winter.

>>16274362
Canada
>>16274344
Yeah Ontario is like the California of Canada when it comes to car laws

>>16274351
>no sipes
>shitty tread pattern

[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]

>>16274334
>>16274344
snow chains are only banned in places with 100+kph limit roads with established snow removal infrastructure

this is a good thing

>>16274368
I´m not from burgerland, but i heared the laws in Commiefornia would be pretty bad.

>>16274382
Yeah tinted windows ban soon on anything blocking more then 30% of the light and complete ban on front (which is a good thing honestly)

>>16274380
We have unlimited speeds here and are still allowed to use them, but only up to 50km/h.
t. german

>>16273790
Muncher E All

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>>16274378
>>16274367
Replaced them with these, worked a fucking lot better, not 100% fantastic on ice, but they have the mountain symbol so they are (sort-of) an acceptable winter tire in U.S and CAN

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>>16273790
Hahahaha the Saint CUM is hitting everything in sight!

>>16273790
This is so pathetic. I guess this is what happens when an area that doesn't usually need snow tires gets snow fall.

>>16274318
Thats the logic I wish our government here would apply to studded tires

Tire manufacturers were given a two year dispensation to produce and sell tires with more than 90 studs for 13 inch, 110 for 14-15 inch and 130 studs for 16 and bigger until they were able to do tests to see if using more, but lighter studs would still allow the tire to be within the acceptable range of how much "flying particles" it can create

Now that dispensation is coming to an end, which means that it might be the end for great tires like the Conti IceContact 2 and Hakkapeliitta 8 here in Norway

Just let those of us who drive on pretty much only ice and snow in winter drive with our life saving studs do just that, and let those who dont drive studless. Modern premium studless tires are fucking great, and there is no reason one wouldn't pick those if you're not constantly battling ice and hard snow (where they also perform quite good)

>>16273790
Why didnt the cop started driving it forward once he was turned around?

>>16273790
>snow plow right into cop car
FUCKING SO AWESOME YES!!!!!

>>16273790
>Quebec
That explains it. Their shitty roads, shitty drivers and shitty people would cause. They're a bunch of whiney, entitles, arrogant, bastardized "French" peasants. Nobody else likes them. They only like themselves.

>>16274403
that sounds shit

people with chains going 50 tops with no chains crashing into them at 100?

also germany is smaller than southern ontario and not really comparable at all

>>16274412
oh yeah those do look a lot better. Actual tread blocks that can move around and bite in a bit.

>>16274412
>doesnt post the name of the tires
kys

>>16274342
I see what you did there.

>>16274476
General Grabber AT/2

Got them for cheep

>>16274472
>wanting to drive faster than 50km/h eith chains
You do know driving that fast with chains is already shit, do you?

>>16274480
>General Grabber AT/2
You're better off getting General Altimax Artic.

>>16274488
yes

my entire point has been that chains are only banned in canada on fast roads

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>>16274412
I know a lot of folks who run those all year around. Scary tires when you're driving down an icy hill, but I've yet to ditch a car on them; even this beaten old brick

BFG AT's, right?

>>16274510
If the roads are full of snow you shouldn´t drive 100km/h anyway.

I wrote >>16274523 before seeing >>16274480

DONT LOOK AT ME, IM NOT RETARDED I SWEAR

>>16274540
>>16274496
They were on sale, like heavily, I think I paid $350cad for all 4 before tax

>>16274526
wow. you're so right XD

but if you don't ban chains then 7+ million people are going to literally ruin tarmac spec freeway going 100kph+ with completely unnecessary chains

..because people are fucking stupid

>>16274554
I guess, my 4 Altimax were 400 for 4 USD

>>16274559
Yeah thats like 530 canadabux even b4 our cuck tax

>>16274573
Good luck on ice man.

>>16274557
Did you ever drive with chains?
Going 100km/h with chains would feel weird as fuck.

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>>16274554
>>16274559
I paid USD1050/CAD1350 for my Hakkapeliitas...

>>16274598
are you familiar with people and how fucking stupid they are?

>>16274600
Lol, Altimax Arctic I like only a small step below them in terms of effectiveness. You fell for the Mongolian meme.

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>>16274588
Thanks, I know I'm gonna fucking need it

2nd winter on these tires

>>16274610
I know how stupid normies are, but even they will stop if their car is getting loud as fuck and handles weird.

>>16274631
hahahahaha, that's a good one sir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZUDzNrvarc

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>>16273790

>>16273790
Seattle drivers should all be publicly executed.

>>16274646
We where talking about the average normie, not the retrded version.
Also those deserve a darwin award.

>>16274620
The pattern of the Altimax was something they called good ten years ago here

If they were comparable I'm sure Continental would be selling them here

>>16274620
srsly. the generals were better than my more expensive hankooks.

tabarnak

>>16274310
>literally the other side of the world
>climate must be the same

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>>16273790
I have some blizzack WS80s on a RWD V8 firebird.

I live in Colorado, you guys think I'll be gucci? I've read good things about this tire but I'm not sure how /o/ feels about it.

>>16274673
the average normie can't be trusted on nice roads

>this thread proves that

lol @ all the bitching about driving

looks like they designed that hill poorly. cars weight is being distributed poorly. cars should not be sliding like that

>>16274716
Its a good tire. Its not the best on snow when compared to Nokian, Continental and Michelin, but gets top grades on ice in the studless category, coming close to Nokian and Conti

>>16274733
If you are retarded enough to forget a missing wheel, you won´t even know what chains are.

>>16273873
FUCKING LEAFS

>>16274755
>>16274631
>>16274646
women.gif

>>16274913
Women would be incapable of putting chains on their tires...

>>16274716
you'll be good just don't slam the gas

i'm hype for some real snow tomorrow

> Snowplow
> Doesn't even lower the plow to the ground to brake

Are Canadians really retarded?

>>16274948
fixing a road is more expensive than fixing a cruiser mate

This is good, because leafs talk so much shit when southern states that dont often see snow go to shit with a bit of snow

>>16273790
Is this King of the Hill?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro_iuJHv9hI
>Subaru sliding down a hill
>crashing into two other subarus
>trying to stop 3000lbs of car with your foot
typical lesbian drivers.

>>16275422
>Opens door

What the fuck were they going to do? Stop the car with their feet?

>>16273790

florida here. what's all that white stuff?

>>16274060

Quebec drivers are the worse in snow. They've never learned to drive in it because they plow and salt everything that even remotely looks like a road. If you want to learn how to drive in snow you go to Saskatchewan or Alberta where they don't plow shit. Then when you move down east you have a laugh at all the AWD dumbfucks stuck in the ditch when there's barely an inch of white shit on the ground.

>>16274318
Because lazy retards continue running studded tires well into spring and even summer.

>>16274450
Even the Nokian WRG3s are good enough for conditions in most of the US.

I should probably get some new tires but in the near-freezing wet that we're getting here in the Pacific Northwest, I'm able to break traction for fractions of a second in my S60R with crappy Conti Extremecontact DWS tires, which is a nice change of pace.

>CTRL+F ABS
0 results
Why is USA 20 years behind?

>>16274163
>>16274180
Or do what I did and [spoiler]and be a poor motherfucker who only gets two winter tyres for his civic[/spoiler] at least now I get can do skids with out the handbrake.

>>16277029
It's Canada, and if you think ABS is gonna save you in shitty conditions, you never driven in shitty snow weather.

>>16277063
I have, but my ABS didn't lock the wheels like some retarded outdated shit.

>that part at the end with the plow truck sliding down the hill while shitting road salt everywhere

God damn that just made my week.

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>>16274115
>>16274120

I live in Montreal. Had my winter tires on since mid November.

>>16274128

Many people who live in Montreal consider themselves apart from Quebec and Canada.

>>16276386

Pretty much this. So many older generations and Frenchies who think and act like old people have full on winter amnesia every goddamn year. Even last night a guy in a X5 nearly rammed me from behind before I was slowing down at three times the stopping distance because it was pure ice. He stopped 90 degrees relative to me about 5 car lengths behind me. I did it so gently my abs didn't even kick in.

When it snows here it fucking snows.

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>>16274342
>Its a very slippery slope.

>>16273873
Over summer all the shit drivers forget how to drive in snow so the first few snows they all rush out to play bumper cars

>>16273790
That video (almost) makes me thankful that I live in a country where if we get even just a quarter of a micrometre of snow, you have the police, local governments and road maintainers on the radio and TV all day telling you to only use the roads for essential travel

>>16277336
>That video makes me thankful I live in a cuck police state

>>16277347
well it dissuades women and grannies from going out on the road
old women are more likely to be involved in small bumps at traffic lights or in carparks so it's a win win situation really

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>>16277336
Makes me glad I live somewhere people put on their winter tires early, and where you'll struggle to get off your driveway on summer tires

>>16276348
Idk man. Looks like sand, maybe there is one of those beaches you can drive on nearby

>>16274318
>How could you harm the roads when they are covered in snow an ice?

In the seattle area, the higher mountain areas where the richer people live have the ice while the lower areas have no ice or snow. But the government's laws allow studded tires november all the way to March 31. So the low elevation roads and freeways are all torn up by these studded tires running on roads that have never seen ice or snow all winter.

>>16277607
Ban the studs. When it gets icy, put on chains.

Try driving over 20 MPH with chains .... THUMP, THUMP, THUMP. So you'll take them off just as soon as possible. And you'll slow the fuck down with them on, which will go a long way to keeping you safe. You can't take studded tires off (and on and off and on ....).

But now Seattle is salting roads, so fuck them. I-5 is largely elevated through town, so the rebar in the columns and all the local road bridges will be gone in a few years. And the fish in streams will all be dead. So who cares about a few chicken-shit ruts?

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>4x4
>4,000lbs of weight on front tires
>Icebreaker heavy duty ladder chains for all 4 wheels
>Manual trans for dat engine braking
>Large steel bumpers front and rear for no damage
I'm set for any ice or snow we get

>>16273873
they were trying to do sikkk hektik skidz

>>16275422
In this scenario would it have been ideal to
>keep car in first gear to engine brake
>press brake without locking it up
>pull e-brake a bit
>keep front wheels spinning to steer away

Just curious.

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>>16274072
>winter tires wouldn't have prevented any of this
Oh yes, studded tires most certainly would have

>>16278882
studded tires are a double-edged sword. they're great on ice but way slippier when the pavement is only dry or wet, so if you live somewhere they salt a lot and there's rarely actual snow or ice on the road, they'll be shit. My braking distance was vastly increased because of studs on dry pavement and I almost went off the road trying to evade a collision, you could see the scratch marks on the asphalt where the tires just slid instead of gripping. Are they worth it for the ONE day you've gotta drive before the plows have been out? probably not for most people.

>>16279169
That's bullshit though, they'll still be better all around than anything else. You still have way more stopping power on pavement than you should need.

>>16279189
I'm talking about studded snows vs snows, not studded vs summer.

>>16279199
I know, I was referring to that.

FYI studded are just snow tires with studs

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>>16273790
>people try to justify that canada is superior to the united states
>those snow niggers can't even properly drive in their own climate
>mfw

>>16277034
Interesting idea, but illegal where I live.

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>>16279253
Nnnnot quite - here are the two current best tires when it comes to dealing with ice, and as you can see they are very different in thread, siping and more

You can't just throw studs onto a winter tire and expect it to work brilliantly. You gotta design the tire as its standalone studded tire

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>>16278773
>keep car in first gear to engine brake
Shift down, yes. Dropping it to first could be a bad idea depending how fast you are already skidding. Automatics have gear selection 1 & 2 for this but normies don't realize it's use.

>press brake without locking it up
Case by case, if the amount you are pressing is locking it up then stop.
>pull e-brake a bit
There is an application for this but not skidding afaik. RWD, stuck, then use the e-brake as resistance to prevent spinning out while trying to get unstuck. Think of it as a forced "crawl" mode.
>keep front wheels spinning to steer away
Yes, always. Hitting any little bit of grip is wasted if the wheels are locked up.

>>16274412
>>16274523
>>16274496

general grabbers?

i may be corrected, but those look a lot like
bfg t/a ko2's....

>>16279300
BEST.
WINTER.
TIRE.
EVER.
i have a set and i have previously destroyed one because i was on backroads and popped a hole in it. drove on it flat for thirty miles and honestly didnt notice any less control even in its contition.

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>>16279323
They're not exactly the easiest tires to tell apart from a low-res photo, I get you

>>16279336
can confirm hakkas are god-tier in the snow, but if you dont take them off in the summer they literally melt away in 10000km

>>16279300

Dat name tho

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>>16279359
Its an an old finnish name for light cavalrymen, strangely enough

Nokian has come a long way since releasing the worlds first winter tire in the 30's

>>16279271
>quebec
>canada
pick one

>>16278773
He almost made it out last second, when he hit the gas. But he slammed on the brakes and lost control once again. Had he manned up and just gave it gas from beginning, he would have been fine.

>>16279402
ong hong hong you ridiculous frog. dont like it get off our dick and stop taking our money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRbT_BPPe-8

>>16274646
Most likely drug related. Too fucked up to drive, crashed, drove off because they know it.

>>16273790
look at all the salt

>>16280153
lol ruskies

Australian here. I don't often go to the snow and have never driven in it.
What are you supposed to do if you lose traction?

>>16281507

downshift and pray

>>16281507
Take your foot off he has, don't press the brake, and get the front wheels lined up in the direction you intend to go. Your tires will hook up eventually, or you'll run off the road.

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>>16273790
Why don't they have winter tires?

>>16273823
>>16273965
>>16273970
>>16274006
>>16274017
>>16274055
>>16274060

That's black ice. Snow tires dont do shit on ice. It's basically the winter saying fuck you.

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>francophones=leafs
Cunts can't even get it right. We only keep them in as an excuse to have a second language like other countries.
>>16281788
Bastardised french speaking think all seasons are best

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>>16281507
GAS GAS GAS
I'M GONNA STEP ON THE GAS

>sloped roads
thank god I live on the prairies and not deal with shit like that
>>16276386
haha, yep

>>16281826
You do however deal with a lot more drunks behind the wheel cause lol no transit. Source: I have a number family members out west been hit by drunk drivers. It's an issue out there.

Hey how's Louise doing?

>>16273873
It's all of those syrian rapefugees, er i mean, heart surgeons and physicists weedman has brought in, and that white kuffar snow is clearly racist.

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>>16282003
>mfw my dad is one of those drunks
He's getting old, never had an accident yet but thank god he's toning it down before anything bad happens

Lake Louise? Still beautiful and fun especially during the winter

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>>16279336
there was some feedback from those hakka 8 that the eco stud would loose its "pillow" and would sink deeper in to the tire..

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>tfw will never have this issue
>tfw tri drive
>tfw would drive up a tree if i wanted it to
>tfw tire rotations every other day
>>16273873
>whats their excuse?
they're cuckholds
>>16273965
>Just drive in a lower gear than usual and slow down
>winter tires optional
kek you must be from florida
>>16274072
>Winter tires wouldn't have prevented any of this
>being this wrong
>>16274469
this

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>>16282049
Oh when you said prairies I thought you meant Saskatchewan where some of family lives. Not b.c.

>tfw want to roadtrip across Canada but adult now and commitments.
Soon.

>>16282049
And yes drinking and driving is still a pretty big issue out west or the boonies in general. Get your dad sorted out for Christ sake.

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>>16273790
>mfw people live in snowy areas and they have all seasons, no winter tires and no chains
>mfw the police car sliding down the hill backwards
>mfw even the salt truck went sliding out of control because it didn't have studs or chains

>>16282138
mine were studless so that wasn't an issue.

>>16273790
kek, good ol' times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxJ3d31kec

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>>16282138
We'll see after a few winters on'em

Mate also just bought a set for his 4Runner, and he cant stop talking about how much he loves them

>>16277251
514 here too anon, fuck Montreal drivers.

Blizzaks ws80 or X-ice3?

The ice3 seem to last longer,Better mileage and dry performance but the Blizzaks better in deep snow /slush.

Hmm

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>>16273790

>>16281806
If theyre studded, then yes they will.