http://www.caranddriver.com/news/20 17-chevrolet-colorado-zr

>4 cylinder
>diesel
Or get the 308 hp gas version.

>>16252404
does it come with the fancy suspension and winch?

Looks pretty cool. how much torque does the 4 cylinder have?

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>sport truck
so whats sporty about it? looks like absolute dogshit for offroad and roflmao if gm thinks it can hug the tarmac
id rather buy a real 'sports truck'

>>16252436
it has no torque tho

>>16252475
>369 lb*ft

>>16252490
it has 275 lb ft retard.

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>butt hurt Ford Fan Girls

>>16252457
None.

>>16252404

Looks pretty homosexual. As usual, the Japs do it better with superior truck engineering.

>>16253012
>chevy fangirls are homosexuals
lmao

>>16252503
The diesel with 181hp has 369 lbft.

Dumbass.

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bump for more GM fangirl assmad

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>not making a long awaited Silverado zr2
ok i hate gm now, sign me up for a raptor

>>16252404
Repost

>>16253132
lmao
>>16253457
it has no power, dumbfuck

gm fangirls are retarded

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>being so inept at modifying vehicles that you demand to buy your slightly more offroady pickup straight from the factory even though you know it's a horrid compromise like prebuilt computers

>>16255620
And what exactly is it that you do with "power" in a pickup truck?

>>16255625
t. gm's marketing

i guess you have to damage control the fact that you can't beat ford lmao
>>16255632
accelerate. diesel fags are getting desperate again.

>>16255637
And what is it that rapid acceleration is useful for in a pickup truck?

>>16255625
>being so poor you can't afford the best offroading truck
lol

>>16255649
Passing other vehicles.

loving this damage control from diesel fags btw lmao

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>>16253012
lolk

pic related a real sports truck

>>16255632
you win baja or dakar
diesel fags stay btfo and towing your own fat ass around roflmao

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bwahahhahahahaa

>diesel fags WILL defend this
lmao

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>>16255675
>Ecoboost V6 has 100 more hp
>30 more lb ft of torque
there goes my sides

watch as diesel fags justify this

>>16255660
But diesels blow gassers out of the water?

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>>16255667
It's funny you say that because this year's Dakar was won by a 3.0L V6 turbodiesel. And I haven't even checked the earlier ones.

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>>16255697
see
>>16255675
you can't even pass a camry with your shitty diesel

lmao

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>>16255705
And by won I mean the car class. The actual quickest vehicle was a diesel powered house.

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>>16255675

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>>16255724
>>16255705
okay them, the literal best offroad vehicles in the world are dirtbikes, dirtbikes dont use diesel shit because its shit
stay btfo

did diesel fags ragequit again?

>>16255650
>LARPing as someone with a job on the motoring section of a chinese cartoon forum

>>16255708
>responding to alphonse

I know I shouldn't, but I will.

https://youtu.be/NenSIjZCu0M

>>16253012
>nissan fanboys projecting

>>16255738
please kys alphonse

>>16255753
Slower than a stock f150


https://youtu.be/O2MQi2cUORE

>>16255748
>this poor

>>16255765
>implying that F150 is hauling 10k
>implying you didn't want the (You) from another obvious shitpost

>>16255774
https://youtu.be/O2MQi2cUORE

>damage control

>>16255765
this.

Diesel fags gettin desperate

https://youtu.be/TstxIWiqjs0

>>16255785
>>16255798
kek you don't even try anymore

SHITPOSTER BTFO

>>16255809
>don't even try
just like gm when they made these shitty diesel truck

>>16255817
GM is shit though

>>16255821
and so are diesels

>>16255753
Theoretically good, but I haven't followed the thing in a few years and it's an absolute disgrace to see several entries being trailered from challenge to challenge and then simply blowing up in the sled pull. They should do a Drag Week on Diesel Power Challenge and ban support vehicles.

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>>16255825

>>16255829
Agreed.

>>16252404
Not sure what the approach and departure angles are but I think anyone buying the gasser is cono used.

You get the diesel for more grunt crawling around and far superior range. Looks promising to me

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>>16255877
>far superior range
yea, a class exclusive 6 mile range

>>16255890
What's confusing about superior range while off road with a diesel? Must not be your hobby which begs the question why you'd even be shutting up this post except to dump on GM. Plenty of reasons for that but this rig isn't one of them from what I can tell

>>16255918
>181 hp

>>16255923
Have you ever wondered why semi trucks "only" have 500 hp but 2500 lbft of torque?

>>16255932
except 500 hp is a lot. i don't have a problem with that.

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Americans, how does it feel to know that you're not getting the "original" version of this; the Isuzu D-Max, with its practical 2.5 diesel, 7700lb maximum weight and 7700lb tow rating?

>>16255947
Slower than the 2.7 Ecoboost

into the trash

>7700lb tow rating?

So it's worthless?

>>16255939
It's ain't a lot for 80,000 lbs.

>>16255974
it is. stay btfo gm fag

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>>16255947
I'll add; do you guys think there would be a market for these trucks if the chicken tax wasn't a thing, and diesel fuel was priced more similarly to gas?

>>16255923

Smh

>>16255939

Relative to 25 tons or more of load?
>baka

>>16255947

I'd rather have it reliably meet US emissions standards. We Americans shouldn't be lazy.

>>16255954

People do buy trucks as pavement pounding commuters... you are seemingly in this category of the confused
>baka

>>16255978
>>16255974
Its fucking not, torque is way more important than raw horse power

>>16256009
* for towing

>>16256009
That's the entire fucking point, but the moron keeps droning on about horsepower in a fucking pickup truck.

>>16256007
stay btfo
>>16256009
you're right torque is important.

that's why the f150 has 510 lb ft

stay btfo

diesel a shit

>>16256024
while you can get torque from horse power, things like better differentials, transmissions and other factors can increase torque which is the main requirement for towing especially when accelerating or decelerating you don't want that trailer in control of your truck without the torque especially on hills

diesel fags are getting triggered again.

must suck knowing the ecoboost v6 is superior

why do people care about horsepower numbers in an off road truck? i mean wtf?

i own an 80 series land cruiser and am a huge toyota fanboy but this new offering from gm sounds like an incredible plat form. anyone saying otherwise has never driven off road.

>>16256036
>ecoboost
why don't you just say neutered engine with a turbo

then again turbo doesn't help your torque much at all

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>>16256032

>>16256040
is that why it has 510 lb ft???
>>16256038
ignore these retards. diesel fags are triggered they make less power AND less torque

diesel a shit

>>16256043
torque is more important for towing than raw horse power

>>16256026
Stay before is lazy and shows how deep your capable of considering the aspects going on here... which apparently isn't even the complete surface.

>>16256036
i think youre confused my man.
ecoboos v6 is a good engine and its great on road. but everyone who knows anything about offroading knows that diesel is superior in every way. it has much more low end torque which is all that matters.

the zr2 is shaping up to be an incredibly capable off roader out of the box. things like this are rare these days so i think we need to encourage this, not shitpost about meaningless hp numbers.

>>16256045
We've already agreed on that. You don't have to spout more confusing, wrong explainations for it.

>>16256046
You're right. The whole surface is the ecoboost V6 makes more power and torque.

Diesel cuckolds BTFO.
>>16256051
>diesel is superior
it isn't though. it makes less power and torque. are you daft?

>>16256036
Ecoboost is a fine range generally speaking but your ignoranceor fanboism is glaring.

>>16256044
lol
overall numbers are mostly meaningless in an offroad context you fucking retard.
it matters where the torque is, and it needs to be at the bottom end. diesel is superior for offroading this is undeniable fact man.

>>16256055
>it isn't though. it makes less power and torque. are you daft?
please see>>16256059
you need to at least have a basic understanding about what youre talking about before blantantly shitposting about it.

you are embarrassing yourself.

>>16256055
>it isn't though. it makes less power and torque. are you daft?
better low end torque faggot

you can make more torque with a transmission ratio swap

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>>16256057
not an argument
>>16256059
see
>>16255675
the ecoboost v6 delivers max torque at 2500 rpm.

I'M LOVING THIS DAMAGE CONTROL FROM DIESEL FAGS.

>>16256064
>better low end torque
it doesn't tho.

the ecoboost has more low end torque. keep up the damage control.

A 3.5L engine in a full size truck makes slightly more torque than a 2.8L engine in a much lighter mid size truck, stop the presses!

>>16256055
Well it sucks down a lot more fuel the moment you ask it to do even stoichiometric. It's pretty plain you don't understand the basics. My education of you is complete when you look up the multi-syllable word and it's relation to the subject. God damn, there is a lot of stupid-but-confident on this board...

>>16256077
>140 lb ft is "slightly more"
>ignoring the fact it makes more than 250 more hp
whatever helps you sleep at night diesel fag
>>16256078
gm is trash. stay mad.

>>16256066
did you even read your own image? look at the other fucking half of it you total retard.
the diesel engine delivers the exact same amount of torque at a LOWER rpm
jesus christ how are you this dense

ITT: a bunch of retards think more power is better

>>16256089
The Raptor makes 510 lb ft of torque you illiterate retard. And the base V6 makes 30 more lb ft. Nice job ignoring the fact that it makes more than 100 more HP too.

>>16256092
the fact that horsepower numbers are even seriously being discussed in a truck thread goes to show you how retarded the busriders here are

ITT: triggered diesel cucks resort to ad hominems after getting btfo

>>16256099
>power is everything

yea watching all those 1000 horse power muscle beating loads of other cars I can see it now

>>16256085
Seriously, undertake a little reading to understand why different approaches are taken. It will improve your depth and decision making

>>16256106
not an argument.

>>16256099
>this damage control
>l-let me b-bring up le raptor th-that'll show em
i hope you are enjoying your bus ride

>>16256115
>MORE IS BETTER
>more is not inherently better
>n-not an argument!

>>16256113
Go back to school you illiterate moron.

Jesus Christ.

>>16256106
>1000hp civics and integras that acheivery that power very abruptly at the highest end of the rpm range which ends up being a combination of useless and dangerous

Ftfy relative to my era

>>16256120
So you admit diesels are interior?

>>16256133
>interior
the interior of the vehicle has nothing to do with the performance

although cloth is lighter would probably give you an edge

>responding this to this retarded bait AGAIN
This same faggot makes this thread every night. He doesn't know anything about trucks, move on.

>>16256121
not an argument.
>>16256133
be careful. don't wanna trigger diesel fags anymore.

>>16256136
stay mad
>>16256140
>l-lets leave the thread
>i don't like being proven wrong
lol

>>16256133
bc you brought up the existence of the raptor?
no what does that even have to do with anything.
the raptor is a great desert runner, thats it.

put it on any serious trail with actual obstacles and it will get blown away but any other truck with simple mods, diesel or not.

you are very confused and delusional.

>>16256148
assmad gm fangurl detected

>>16256149
The Raptor is a competitor you braindead fuck

>the raptor gets btfo on desert trails
[citation needed]

It's not even out yet.

you are incredibly illiterate and stupid

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>>16256148
>shitposting about irrelevant horsepower numbers
>proving people wrong
wew

>using a raptor to tow shit
half the busriders on here use their truck to drive to work and shit and never actually tow, life or move anything with it.

>>16256125
I am not the one in need of more education on the subject at hand. I am not the one spreading an uninformed opinion (one so badly clueless I'd be embarrassed to have it attributed to my IP let alone my name).

You have a choice here my man: you can get listed or use the Internet connection you have to leverage knowledge freely available to make sure you don't come off as an aggressive, uninformed cunt in the (far off) future. I gave you the clue word of stoichiometric relative to this thread and diesel vs Ecoboost gasser. Take that shit and make the informed points while taking the correct positions next time around

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>>16256164
>it's irrelevant because i say so!
>STOP BRINGING IT UP!!!

>>16252404
Wouldn't high horsepower on an off-roader just kill you?

>>16256140

I haven't been on in a year, thanks for the tip

>>16256165
not an argument.
>>16256168
>this mad you can't read
stay mad you braindead fuck. learn something about trucks before you talk about them.

>>16256165
It has a garbage tow rating anyway because of its ruined muh-prerunner suspension.

>>16256155
a competitor to what? diesel engines? you arent even making sense.

>the raptor gets btfo on desert trails
thats also not even what i said your reading comprehension is beyond repair. i said the raptor is great on desert runs - i.e. the open desert. however, if you put it on a trail in the forest it would get shit on.
this is not debatable man this is 101, im sorry you dont regularly off road but dont talk about it like you do.

>>16256173
>>16256140
>samefagging
>>16256170
No. There are tons of high powered offroaders.

>>16255675
btfo

>>16256169
>i need to have 500 hp to crawl up trails at 4mph
holy shit the man is brain dead

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>>16256182
The Raptor is a competitor to the fucking truck in OP's pick. How new are you?

I'm sorry you can't read.

>>16256183
How would, like, 500 horsepower be driveable with a COG 10 feet off the ground?

Oh I see so trucks that are really just cars with beds on them

>>16256192
>diesel fags this triggered
enjoy your ten second 0-60 time.

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>>16255738
Dirtbikes use 2 stroke.
Your argument is invalid.

Picrelated too.
Diesel a GOAT, gassers on suicide watch.

>>16256203
>i have no actual response here is an irrelevant statistic
at least youre sticking to your guns op

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>>16256209
the most successful ones use gas.

stay btfo.
>>16256212
not an argument.

I love how OP is responding to his own comments several times while trying to call out others for samefagging.

>oh boy this thread has me kekkin

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>>16256221
>gets outed for samefagging
>resorts to projecting
lmao

>>16256203
No one gives a fuck about 0-60 times in a truck thats not what trucks are for

>>16256230
>damage control
the post

>>16253038
>369 ft-lbs
>none

>>16256240
it makes no power though. it won't be able to get anywhere.

did diesel fags ragequit?????

>>16256194
>the raptor is a competitor to the zr2

in what way? the raptor is a full size pick up for doing desert runs at high speeds. the zr2 is a mid size made for traversing trails in the woods. its closer competitor would be the tacoma.

>inb4 more shitposting about horsepower numbers for some reason

>>16255076
>Silverado ZR2
If you want a truck that won't fit on the street.

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>pseudo-trophy-truck makes less HP than a fucking crown vic

>>16256257
so you admit gm can't compete?

>>16256236
thats not damage control you faggot. Christ you fucking kids driving a huge truck to work every day to overinflate your epeed and never actually do anything with it

>>16256266
it is damage control. enjoy being slow.

So.. Is Ford going to fit a V6 diesel in their new Raptor? Or just a false rumor

>>16256272
>I need to tow a 5000 pound trailer with my boat/mobile home etc
>BUT I NEED TO GO FAST
>No I don't need much torque just max my useless HP out

please tell me the purpose of the 2011 Ford F250

>>16256285
the f150 doesn't have a problem towing

keep up the damage control diesel fag

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>>16256264
TOP KEK!!

GM BTFO!!

>>16256292
>the F150 doesn't have a problem towing loads greater than its towing capacity. Nope I can tow 8000, 10000, and 20000 perfectly fine
gotta go 0-60 fast though right?

Is it the britfags making fun of the 180hp? Because the last time I checked 180hp there was classified as a supercar...

>>16256304
the f150 literally has no problem's towing 10,000 lbs.

it doesn't tow 20 because that's the f450's job.

keep up the damage control.

>>16256313
you've never towed something have you? If you posted the interior of your truck I think I'll find something really important for towing

>>16256318
not an argument.

>>16256327
>not having the towing equipment in my truck doesn't mean anything!
>I know everything about towing!

>>16256331
not an argument.

stay btfo

>>16256331
It literally doesn't matter if I've never towed something to drive a truck everyday!

>>16256265
what?
if anything that would mean ford cant compete
since they literally have nothing in this segment

>>16256334
You can't just say "not an argument" as some kind of magic nullification without any retort you stupid shit

>>16256341
the raptor is better tho. stay btfo
>>16256344
>ad hominems
>no argument
stay btfo

>>16256334
>I don't have a brake controller in my truck it doesn't matter!

>>16256348
>its not an argument because I said so
you're worse than shitposters on /pol/

>>16256349
>putting words in other people's mouths
>literally no arguments
>only ad hominems
hilarious

>>16256359
not an argument

>>16256348
>an entirely different vehicle in an entirely different class is better
thats pretty cool dude.
did you also know the ferrari 488 has more hp than the ford escape??

lmao ford fags btfo!

>>16256384
stay btfo
>>16256390
except the ford gt is faster

lol, you failed at logical fallacies

rotflmao

>>16255785
Kek you stupid or what the diesel is towing lots of weight. Your example is stupid as fuck.

>>16255785
what is the purpose of the f150? it sounds like its just a sports car with a truck shape and not an actual truck people would use.

>>16256471
not an argument
>>16256476
to tow more than the competitors

>>16256480
>to tow more than the competitors
>0-60 video
>lol it tows
It sounds like the people interested in 0-60 shit aren't people who would actually use the truck for what it was designed to do. This isn't just the F150 but all these dinky sporty 'trucks'

>>16256495
it literally tows more than any car in class. are you retarded?

>>16256502
I think you completely missed the point of my post

>>16256505
lol hes done that this entire thread

>>16256505
Look up the tow rating you fucking retard. Holy shit you are dumb.

>>16255076
>muh midnight edition silverado
>muh ram rebel
Other truck manufactures need to get serious about competing with the Raptor. Not just normal trucks with a few "special" things to bump up the price

>>16256024
You're replying to fucking Alphonse, ever have a conversation with someone with real life crippling autism? Even on 4chan it's thought to find. Inb4 I'm called a gm shill or something

>>16256349
Stop giving him replies, you're dealing with someone as deep on the autism spectrum as Chris chan

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>>16255675

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>>16252469
It'll probably look cool as a trophy truck tho

>>16256259
It could. ..as long as you don't give it super fat flares or whatever.

>>16256259
>Silverado zr2

It would be a full on trophy truck if they designed it like the Colorado zr2

>>16256265
>What is the lingenfelter Reaper

BTFOs the raptor in every way according to Alphonse's hp bs

>>16256521
You still missed the point of my post

>>16257165
Too bad that wasn't factory built by GM

>>16257188
It's a joint venture between GM and Lingenfelter. They built in house and at the lingenfelter factory and are sold at chebby dealerships

>>16257185
stay btfo and learn to read

>>16257251
You didn't even read my post

Not an argument

>>16257260
stay btfo

>>16257286
not an argument

>>16257289
stay btfo

>>16257298
not an argument

>>16257303
stay btfo

>diesel fags ragequit
as expected

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>>16252404

Bad ass ride and almost 400 lb·ft is pretty wild for a factory four-banger, but this ain’t even a GM engine, it’s an Italian subsidiary (VM Motori) owned by Fiat. WTF?