When will Honda shut Acura down as it has been a failure like

Americans always fall for the trash options and ignore the decent ones. Most Acuras are Hondas in Europe, and we don't even get those garbage American exclusive Hondas here.

>>16250395
unlikely given the new 8 speed DCT's as all Acura-only.

>>16250405
This

Americans consider Lexus (((luxury))) when it's a Toyota. Why are Americans so stupid when it comes to buying cars?

Who buys Acuras and why?

>Honda
>Luxury

>>16250437
people who are tired of their german car breaking down

>>16250461
>what is Lexus

>>16250466
A pricier alternative.

>>16250423
Germans consider ((Audi)) a luxury brand when it's VW
In fact it's the third best selling automaker in Germany.
Why are Germans so stupid?

>>16250466
a brand for dirty pajeets & gooks

i'd rather live with the acura stigma rather than the lexus stigma tbqh famalam

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The MDX isnt bad, but I would never buy a cross over because I have a penis.

>>16250478
VW and Audis are different.

>>16250497
No, they aren't. They're both trash.

>ILX
Rebadged Civic
>TLX
Rebadged Accord
>RLX
Rebadged Accord
>RDX
Rebadged H-RV
>MDX
Rebadged CR-V
>NSX
Rebadged NSX

Why are Americans this stupid to pay extra for a shiny new badge?

>>16250513
Spoken like a true poorfag.

>>16250526
Honda NSX is more a rebadged Acura than the other way.
On the old NSX that was true, but since the NSX is an American car, and badged as Acura here...

>>16250497
They have different badges

>>16250528
Dude, I can get a mid-mileage GTI for like 3 grand here. And Audis aren't much more expensive. Saw an A5 go for like 2500. It had like 168k on the clock.

Saw it listed again on Craigslist a week later. It probably broke down, unreliable German trash.

Yawn duh

>>16250542
>German car
>unreliable

Why don't Americans ever maintain their cars?

There is literally nothing wrong with Acura.

>>16250558
Plastics and computers.
If it's neither of those, the owner expected the vehicle to service itself and is most likely legally retarded.

>>16250542
Don't listen to him lol.

I've had an audi a4 before and a golf gti and both were the most unreliable pieces of shit ever. Currently have a Lexus and it's been amazing and it's fucking 8 years old.. I've had it for 4 of those. Got it cheap.. Some Idiot leased it for me and paid off the depreciation.

>>16250497
Just as Toyotas and Lexuses are different, dummy.

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This goes here.

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And this goes here.

>>16250588
>Lincoln above Porsche

Into the trash it goes.

>>16250580
Wrong

Lexus uses the same framework from the Camby and Avalon while Audi's are unique from VW.

Once again Aneridumb education.

>>16250621
Lmao Audis and VWs are the same shit famlay

>>16250423
Lexus actually has bespoke models.

>>16250633
t. Civic Driver

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>>16250423

Aren't Acura sales poor?

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>>16250621
>being this wrong

>>16250588
>customer service index ranking
what does this even mean? doesn't it vary by dealer?

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>>16250539
Oh right because Honda Motor is a subsidiary of Acura Motors

>>16250588
>JDPowers
Worthless bait

>>16250526

But that`s wrong, you quadruple nigger

Hondas don`t get proper AWD (except Honda Legend)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SH-AWD

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>>16250558
>this fag thinks new camshafts and constant carbon removal should be done every other maintenance interval

Don`t forget to "maintain" your chain assembly just in case the tensioners decide to disintegrate prematurely.

>>16250862
No, because for this generation, Acura was the original.

By that logic I guess the Antara is just a rebadged Terrain?

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>>16250570
Well in Krautcars, its always plastics and computers that fail.

>>16250494
I'll have you know that my '04 MDX has 285k miles and is an absolute BEAST.

>>16250497
kill yourself

>>16250603
I have had my tlx in a bunch of times

>>16250588
>JDpower
yeah... the ranking where bluetooth not connecting has the same value as a broken transmission.

>>16251640

Does it go "cooooh" when you back up?

>>16250405
My TSX was an excellent car.

Bought new, and owned for over 8 years without a single part failure except a light bulb in the seat heater switch that I made the dealer replace under warranty so I could hoon around in a RL-shawd for a few days.

That car was solid and had great responses. It wasn't very fast, but it moved well enough.


Dealership stated that 70% of their customers were burnt over german lux owners who just stopped giving a shit about whatever bullshit "prestige" the kraut hood ornaments bestowed upon them, when they had to drive the ambiguously sticks red Mercedes or BMW "service loaner" to work or the theater in front of the very people they were impressing with their E class or 545 just the week before.


Acura only lost direction because Honda became much more competitive. They should had embraced turbos and awd earlier.

They need to bring back manual.

>>16250588
>Cadillac that high

Ha

>>16250423
>(((luxury)))
how the fuck are kikes related to this

>>16251750
OK simple question

Does Acura make a 4wd sedan?

I want awd without it being a fucking suv and I don't wanna pay more than 30k for it. Also has to be manual but I'm sure Acura has those

Does Acura make one of these types?

>>16250558
You can't service a German car because the car doesn't let you. You have to take it in to the dealer for every issue or preventative maintenance which costs a shitload of money.

Alternatively, you could buy an Asian/American car you can work on yourself.

>>16254093
the tlx and rlx are awd
i don't know of any sedan that is 4wd

>>16254118
When I said 4wd I meant awd

So the tax and rlx?

Ill check those out which would you prefer ideally? Isn't the rlx the smaller of the two and on the civic tier?

>>16254093
Just looked at the tlx

They don't make it in manual...

>>16254133
Shit they don't make the rlx in manual either

>>16254133
>>16254137
you can look for a older 2008 TL type S

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>>16254150
>AWD

>>16254093
2009-2014 came with the option of SH-AWD and a 6 speed manual, if you can stomach the beak grill on the pre-face lifted model

Install a Comptech supercharger on it and you have a total sleeper

>>16250526
>RDX
Rebadged H-RV
>MDX
Rebadged CR-V

At least get the sizes right you nigger

>>16250786
Absolutely nothing

>>16250558
>buddy who has money buys an s4
>2 months later oil pressure sensor goes
>calls aaa, they check his oil level and fill it up
>turbo melts down from too much oil
>gets a new engine & turbo
>1 week later car acts funny
>dealership says everythings fine
>i take a look for him the drive by wire and iac are acting up
>goes back to dealership failed componet
>another month later upper control arm breaks free
>guy drives like a granny and avoids potholes
>repairs
>alignment is off, goes back again
>mil on not too much later
>take a look 02 sensors or cat
>goes in cat is dead
>intermittent light problem
>he finally gives up on the turd
too many problems with half assed german cars, parts are over priced and vw owns almost everything german.

>>16254204
Porsche's flat 6 powered cars have so far been unmolested by VW

>>16254204
Once again Americans do not maintain their cars properly.

You never hear about these problems here in Europe with German cars as they are always built with the highest quality.

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>>16254223
How am I suppose to maintain a BMW when they do not include a dip stick?

>>16254223
That's cause all you guys can afford in Europe are the bottom of the barrel cars with a fancy badge slapped on them

>>16254126
The TLX offers SH-AWD, the RLX is essentially a CR-V and has regular AWD. The civic one is the ILX which is only FWD.

>>16254126
Just kidding the RLX is the super fancy one no one buys. It can have a fancy hybrid AWD system like the new NSX. But I think at 60k you can find something better from other manufacturers.

>>16254391
>RLX is essentially a CR-V and has regular AWD
wut

The RLX is the Honda Legend and has AWD with electric motors on the rear wheels. When cruising around on battery power it's essentially RWD

>>16254223
>highest quality
>parts failures a week off the lot
Sure thing Ahmed.

>>16254405
I had a brain fart I fixed it in the next post. It's just no one talks about the RLX so my brain went right to RDX.

>>16250542
If it got to 168k miles in just a couple years, it's not unreliable

>>16254539
lel

>>16254391
Not eve the ilx comes in standard anymore

>>16254589
It's has the dct which the TLX has. It's pretty quick and responsive. Just a bit clunky but vastly better than the 9 speed transmission in the V6 cars. It's quite dreadful especially the '15 cars.

>>16251750
>They should had embraced turbos and awd earlier.

I agree, someone must put an end to the Quattro/Subaru meme.

>>16254093

Literally the Honda Legend/Acura RL, RLX

>>16250662
http://www.autoc.org/news/best-worst-summer-2016-eastern

Acura outsells Infiniti

just because they make cars you don't like doesn't mean they're going to shut down

Acura is good, but not great. It is probably the underdog of luxury cars right now... but because its parent company is Honda and it is "made in Japan" with nippon steel and what not, people tend to believe that they're reliable.

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't... but BMW/Benz don't break down before 3 years (End of a regular lease). I mean, if you're in the market to purchase a luxury vehicle, you will probably be leasing, not buying... unless you're spending more than 100 grand because you won't be getting ANYTHING that will last that long with only 50 grand.

>>16254895
I think another problem that acura has is that its supposed to be their premium brand which usually means you get some toys before the mainstream cars begin to have them. The Acura infotainment is years behind what newer Hondas have and way behind compared to an advanced system that the new Volvos have. I think they also need to create performance versions of their cars, sadly a 290HP V6 won't cut it for luxury buyers when you can get a 400HP Infiniti. They need to create excitement not only in their design and interface, but also in their powertrains.

>>16254923
So the NSX? Because it has all of those.

>>16254177
That TL model almost killed Acura.

>>16254940
I mean something that's not 160k. Their regular cars needed some cool shit besides just being a more expensive version of a honda.

>>16254923
>>16254940
Dude was talking about how the Acura target audience is trash-tier right now. Acura needs to bring in the new generation of owners. Look at Lexus, look at BMW, look at Mercedes. Their style, their design, their marketing strategy. It is full of elegance yet they're bold and sporty to an essence.

>>16255000
In a way this is what I meant yes. They need new owners, but to get the owners they have to have something to bring them in. I see Volvo going through something similar. They're going to need to get away from the old person customer base they have.

>>16254968
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a good car that can be had for cheap now days

>>16254968
The second generation TL had terrible transmissions. Along with other closely related models.

>>16255018
Yup... look at their Precision concept and look at the MDX Facelift. I personally like it. Its like a breath of fresh air...

I'm young, but I also have money. My dad is in his 50s and he doesn't have a "old man's taste." Heck, he wanted to buy a Mercedes S550 Coupe last year.

But yeah, its best if Acura makes their vehicles bold and fuck-all to the rest. Just do it right.

>>16255000
Nice digits.
Honda needs to go beyond their 3.5 liter engine and go for bigger displacement.
The RL should compete with Lexus LS in displacement and horsepower.

>>16255032
The only thing I hope they don't do with the new grill is make the logo so big.

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I like the Legend

>>16254093
The TL comes in Sh-AWD and also can be stick.

>>16250466
An ugly, floaty catfish.

The problem is the higher end Hondas have just gotten too nice.

I think Acuras are absolutely gorgeous, especially the ILX. But why pay $5k - $7k more to get an appearance package and and extra 20 hp over the top Honda model? It just doesn't make sense.

>>16250395
Is it? Literally every other Mexican family I know has a TLX or TSX and about a quarter of the crossovers I see women driving here are MDX or RDX shitwagons.

>>16250539
>NSX is an american car

when will this meme end?

>>16250423
Because non car people are quick to buy anything that has "luxury" attached to it. Apples are shit and people spend thousands on them because they believe price=quality

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>>16250558
this
German cars in europe work just fine, i dont know whats wrong with them in Burgerland that they are always complaining.
Sure most of them here are diesels but im sure the problem is not the petrol engines, its just american mechanics that have no ideia how to deal with technology.
Here in Europe any average Joe mechanic knows his stuff with german cars and although they are not cheap to fix, they are reliable.

>>16255784
When they stop designing and building them in the States.

>>16255866
thats marketing for you.

I've owned two 3rd gen acura TLs and they're good solid cars. The first one i totaled, my second one is a six speed mt and i love it. So far the only thing i need to change are the spark plugs and the clutch. I bought the car with 140k miles and the engine is still running strong. I'd like to see anyone buy a krautcar with 140K miles and not spend more than double on the car just to "maintain" the car.

>>16250395
I just want honda to start using timing chains in their v6 engines so I can actually seriously consider their product

>>16250558
Because "maintenance" to we Americans means changing the oil on time, checking fluid levels, checking the body/chassis for rust, checking your tires for pressure/wear, occasionally replacing spark plugs and batteries, and "tune-ups" after 100k miles.

It does not include engine disassembly to perform service on critical components every 10,000 miles after the first 65,000.

>>16255851

We are just too accustomed to getting fucked in the ass to care, politically or otherwise.
>cars are supposed to break, its what they do, no?
I remember well enough those 1st gen VAG DSGs shitting themselves. Also Audis are notorious for eating front suspension parts. Only reason to own some generic VW in Europe is that they are plentyful, dirt cheap to buy and maintain. Japanese cars on the other hand are quite expensive, except old and rusty examples. Used French cars are also dirt cheap to buy, but expensive(ish) to maintain (no more than some old German luxobarge though).

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>>16255851
That's because this is the average European car
German luxury cars are bought mostly buy Americans and the Chinese

>>16256250
>he didn’t change his timing chain and camshaft at 50k

laughing(((germans))).jpg

>>16256325

I assure you, there are enough idiots who buy/lease these things. After the warranty ends they are dumped into eastern europe where even dumber sods buy them.

>>16255851
My observation is that they are generally not particularly bad in the reliability department. What keeps me out of vag and euro cars I general is part pricing, the "typical buyers" I personally know, and amount of items on a typical maintenence sheet vs GM/Ford and the japs

Why did Scion fail but Acura did not?

>>16257518
Acura is a luxury brand with decent marketing
Scion tried to appeal primarily to people who don't have the money for new cars

>>16250494
This picture sums up the reason why I hate norcal
>go to faggot hipster coffee spot in SF
>cut in front of like 3 white people
>they say nothing out of fear of being racist (mexican)

>>16250395
Toyota needs to shutdown Lexus and just sell them as Toyota crowns

>>16250423
Why is anyone stupid enough to not buy a Toyota?

>>16255844
Clearly you know zero about computers, the tech industry, or the market.