I've been looking into convertible cars, and I thought I

only thing the Solstice has is the price

Pontiac a shit
Why do you think they went under ?

It couldn't possibly be because they make a subpar product out of subpar parts and Market them to white trash faggets

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Miata is always the answer
Is
Always
The
Answer

>>16218354
This, but not a piece of shit NA. ND or NB depending on whether you value speed/modernity or feels more

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>>16218352
Pontiac a best

Pros and cons to owning a droptop?

Never been interested in them but i live in Ca where its sunny 90% of the year so could be fun.

>>16218373
Camaros with bodykits

wew

>>16218376
It's a convertible

>Drop top
You aren't a nigger are you?

>>16218370
I never liked how the older Miata looks like it's smiling at you

>>16218376
Pros: it's a fucking convertible
Cons: looks like shit with the top up, easy to break into, floppy and heavy if it's not on a roadster, poor insulation (leaking isn't really an issue)

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>>16218385
Thankfully im not a nigger

>>16218392
>mfw

Okay maybe ill just stick with hardtops

>>16218378
If you're going to put a body kit on anything, you use the best platform available. Pontiac understood this.

the 124 abarth is alright at the moment but will be great in a year for two reasons
>more mature tuning scene
>much cheaper prices because fiat depreciation

just wait until next summer

>>16218699
don't you want to be a pioneer ?

>>16218740
nah, its 32k which is too expensive for what it is without a tune.
in a year it'll be like 24k going by normal fiat depreciation rates

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new Fiats are all butt ugly

get the Pontiac. they are future collectibles

>>16218373
literal trash cars

>>16218650
just because it was the best platform they had doesn't mean they were good platforms

>>16219054
>they are future collectibles
your future is fantasy

>>16218699
>>16218795

The Abarth is pushing 22 psi stock, I wouldn't count on getting a lot more out of it without a bigger turbo. Which would be shit to drive since it will make about 80 hp off boost.

>>16218352
>Pontiac
>White people
I'm sorry, what?

>>16218340
>solstice

it's heavy

>>16219197
This. It weighs 500 to 700 pounds more than the Miata or Fiat. It's ridiculously heavy for how small it is.

Have you taken a look at the Saturn sky redline? Much better than the solstice imo

>>16218370
Why is the NC always ignored? I know it is slightly heavier, but it handles just as good as an ND

>>16219390
It's the same exact car as the solstice with different body panels, and still a heavy piece of shit.

>solstice/sky

If you're looking for a 2,800 lb roadster you'd be crazy to pick one of those over an S2000

>>16218340

Have you sat in a Fiata yet? They're made for manlets. Headroom is scarce.

>>16218352
>implying it wasn't cause GM wouldn't let them make a car worth a damn

Take one look at the gen 2 fiero and tell me it's shit

>>16218650
>Pontiac understood this
>not Pontiac was forced to do this

>>16219184
the 500 abarth does 230whp off just a tune and an intake

>>16219415
a stock NC is a bit wallowy but nothing that aftermarket suspension can't fix. a stock ND has quite a bit of body roll too but is quicker than a stock NC.

i found the ND more fun to drive than a NC but the price difference really isn't justified (for now at least) so i got an NC.

both are better than a NB btw