You're driving a car that weighs 3300LBS/1500KG, how much

500hp

>>16014815
about 500

Mine weights 1750kg and has 218HP (according to manufacturer). Its quite ok, so I guess 350 would be enough.

At 300 I'd say it's pretty quick, but to call it a proper "fast car" I think around 500

200 is enough to have fun.

400

>>16014815

Is that the nerf lady?

>>16014815
Sauce? I like them when they make my car slower while I ride them.

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>>16015014
>B5 RS4
>not fast

>>16014815
300 would be quick, 400 would be fast.

>>16015034
Quick by modern standards, not fast. Also, heavier than 1500kg (16something iirc).

that's like asking how big the tits should be on a landwahle to consider her hot, it doesn't work that way.

how much hp would 900-1000 kg need to be fast?

>>16015058
Somewhere between 200 and 250.

>>16015054
>that's like asking how big the tits should be on a chubby chick to consider her hot
ftfy. Works perfectly fine: you wouldn't pick a chubby chick with a flat chest, you'd at least expect some big tits to work with.

What about a 330b bike?

>>16015082
Somewhere between 60 and 80.

>>16015086
What about a 435 pound bike?

>>16015096
Depends on gearing, suspension and general layout, but 100 would be enough to scare most passengers.

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>>16015100

>>16014815
200

>>16014815
The slowest car I've driven that I would still consider "fast" would be an STI, which is currently 305hp and 3.400 lbs. That comes out to 180 hp per ton.

>>16014815
>'fast'
Depends what you consider fast?
If all you've driven is regular, daily drivers and shitters all your life then your definition may vary.

>>16014815
300 for fast
200 makes it usable

>>16014815
"Fast" is a term that describes velocity, AKA top speed. Since you're looking for a power to weight ratio, I'm guessing you're referencing acceleration, so the word you're looking for here is "quick".

>>16014822
BMW diesel wagon?

>>16014815
THICC

>>16015163
fat and ugly

>>16015145
E60, 3.0 diesel, but sedan. Decent car.

>>16015065
but it's still shit
>inb4 muh thiqq

>>16015144
kys

>>16015054

So much this.

A sports car should be closer to a ton than to 1.5 tons.

>>16015167
>ugly
This is where I draw the line

>>16015168
the e60 sedan weighs 1670kg with 80% fuel, luggage and driver
so it weighs about 1570kg empty
T. owner of an E60 525d sedan

>>16014815
At least 400hp. Maybe closer to 500.

>>16015012
Fuck off, your FR-S was a mistake.

>>16015386
Sorry, my bad, looked it up now. Still, I wouldn't mind haveing 300hp but the 535d isn't as reliable.

>>16014815
I'm driving a car that weighs 2600lbs, how autistic will /o/ become to try to convince me 200bhp isn't enough to make it fast?

>>16015459
Needs at least 300, anon.

my car is 2050kg and makes 125bhp

it's not fast at all

Car 1 is 3300lbs with 260whp. Feels peppy.
Car 2 is 2800lbs with 300whp. Feels "fast"
In both cases, I can't use the power of either car to its full potential on public roads. So i kind of agree with those in here saying that 200hp in a 3300lb car is plenty. Think mid range bmw 3 series. More than enough to get in trouble with on city streets.

My STI was around that, 1550kg and tuned to 380 bhp. It wasnt FAST at high speeds but the awd acceleration made it seem like it was.
Still lost to remapped VAG hatches in a straight line pulling from 2nd gear. I will say near 400hp FWD feels FAST because of all the torque steer and lane hopping

300-400

Honestly, I wouldnt touch that with my pepe.

I have a fetish for clean and or smart girls...

>>16015636
>It wasnt FAST at high speeds

>>16014815
a base C5 is around 3300. HP and torque are about 350. If aerodynamics are similar, the top speed of said vehicle should be about 170-175 ish. It's enough to have fun in, but I'd mod before tracking.

>>16015605
Shouldn't you compare same power:weight? Otherwise why don't you use the same weight car?

Like I'd say 300hp in a 2800lb car feels pretty fast. That's 9.3lb:hp.
But 375 in a 3500lb car, the same exact power:weight, generally feels slower outside of a straight line.
Yes, assuming the 3500lb car has larger wheels and a beefier suspension, then it SHOULD grip the same and handle equivalently, but it doesn't due to greater unsprung weight and other factors.

And given that the lighter call will generally be smaller, it'll be more aerodynamic in addition to the better handling.

That's why I'd say 400+ for a 3300lb car. But I think 300 whp is good in a 2800lb car.

Someone tell me where i can find her porn

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>>16015784
Do you not know how to use a fucking search engine?

>>16014815

Considering that my Challenger is at 375HP at 4400 curb weight and can go 0-60 in 5.3 seconds, I figure 200HP at 3300 would be pretty good.

At that power to weight ratio, you're faster than 90% of cars and can do some pretty fun hooning.

Now, if you're talking about "real" speed, you'd want about 500hp so you could get into the 11s, but that's unnecessary for what 99% of people on this board do. Hell, even doing highway pulls, 200HP at 3300 pounds is enough to take off on a lot of people.

>>16014815
fuck is wrong with these girls?
this a legit way to make a living?

>>16015054
This is actually defined as "....if her gut stick out further than her tits...."

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>>16015027

>>16015890
Yes. Have you not seen Patreon? [spoiler]I kind of want to go mtf and this shit only makes me want to do it more tbqhwy[/spoiler]

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>>16015012
>>16015065
>>16015104
>>16015605
>>16015888
I used to drive a 200hp 3,300lb car. Fast is not the word I'd use to describe it.

>>16016143
>>16015065 here, I specifically mentioned 200hp for a 1000 kg car, as per >>16015058.

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>>16015962
>I kind of want to go mtf
Can you leave?

ITT: autistic benchracing

>>16015818
She's cute, who is that?

100hp

>>16016197
> /o/

Also tfw 350hp at 11,000lbs

>>16015962
You'll make more if you keep your stick you know.

I drive a 3300lb/260hp V8 car and it feels "comfortably fast" but not "oh shit my anus" fast. Faster than most cars on the road but not fast enough to be scary or super exciting.

I drove a 2017 STi that felt like it was too fast, but I think that's because the gearing was so short and it would hit the redline before you could take your foot off the gas.

Fact: cars are fun as soon their lbs/hp rating is in the single digits.

>>16014815
3300 pounds can never be anything other than pigfat.

200 bhp - zippy
225 bhp - quick
250 bhp+ - fast

>>16014815
she looks like she smells like kfc potato wedges and gravy

>>16015962
>be man
>work at a unionized factory
>make the same amount

>be mtf
>whore self out
>job disappears at 30, milf factor does not develop in trannies
>can't get another job ever

>>16016375
> work

I think you're missing the point here

>>16016407
Hey, live like a subhuman, die like a subhuman.

Early and miserably.

Peak horsepower is irrelevant.

I need to see the whole powerband, gear ratios, and differential ratio to make even a slightly-informed guess.

>>16016241
Your 99-04 mustang gt isn't fast sorry to tell you. Quick yes, but not fast at all, even by early 2000s standard.

10:1 is basically the universal metric for when cars become fun

>>16015890
Yeah, even an ugly girl like that probably makes more than someone makes at minimum wage working 10 hours a week.

>>16016187
>can't admit that cis girls are awful and tranny faggots are better

>>16016590
Speaking of, it's fucking annoying that cars are allowed to be measured at the crank for horsepower when some have horrid drivetrain losses.

10lb per hp is about where I'd put a car that's starting to feel fast, yes, if it's by the wheel. By crank, it could really be 13:1.

Thank god that chasing MPG has gotten manufacturers to greatly reduce drivetrain losses, at least. But it's often at the cost of tunability.

230+

>>16016595
Trannies are literally the worst people in existence

>>16016694
>t. Furfaggot

>>16015818
A name would suffice

>>16016878
Try actually looking at the image, it has her username right there, you blind fuck.

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A car is 'fast' when you can get in it, put it in second gear, leave the clutch up, start the engine and have it drive forward rather than instantly stall.

>>16014815
More than 330

>>16014815
My car is over 4000 lbs. Its goes very fast and the engine is probably around 280hp.

>>16014815
NERF THIS *FRRRRRT*

>>16015459
I have a 2,600lb car that makes more than 300bhp. It's not enough. You just get used to it.

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>>16017825
>starting a car up in gear
>if it don't stall it's because it's fast
You can't be this fucking stupid

>>16018069
>what is muh torks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZT5mQLy5C4

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>>16017825
>>16018086
>tfw my farm equipment and truck are fast

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>not owning a 900kg saloon

>>16016595
with the level of mental illness you show, you should not be worried about driving a car fast at all

>>16017338
I need it handed to me m9, i can't read cursive

>>16015014
>>16015037
>>16015396
>>16015643
good job. 400+ is the correct hp to make a 3300 pound car "fast"

you can have fun with 200 and 300 can be quick but you ain't really fast until 400

>>16016375
>milf factor does not develop in trannies
hmmmm

>>16018468
Chel Bunny

I couldn't read it either and had to use reverse image search

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>>16017825
Mfw my 60hp Suzuki samurai is fast

>>16014815
330 crank. "fast" starts with a 0-60 run in the 5s.

Yes, I know this makes a lot of normie coupes "fast".

>>16016220
Casey Anthony

I drive an 04 Mazda 6 wagon. It's about 3450 with all my shit inside and 220 hp. Not crazy fast but it's decently quick that I can accelerate fast enough to keep up with traffic at a freeway entrance

My Volvo 245 weighs like 1350kg and has 230ish HP and is pretty fun to drive, not saying its fast, but its fun.

>>16015888
Can confirm my car is 3340 lbs with about 200 hp and I pulled on a challenger rt from a dig (the guy sucks at launching and quick shifting but still)

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Around 300hp and 300lbft torque.

t. my pigfat b6 S4 felt really fucking fast, but im sure it was mostly the torque and awd talking.

Anything above 250 you'll have a fantastic tmie.

>>16019404
^this 250 is the magic number your looking for

>>16019404
I've been coming to /o/ for like 10 years and we still have people that think you need a certain amount of torque to feel fast.

Retards who don't know what gearing is, still.

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>>16016241
>260hp
>v8
I'm lmaoing at ur life

>>16015396
Aww, I didn't know you could make salty jelly until now.

>>16019394
>pulled on a challenger r/t in basically what is a 350z minus 100hp

christ

>>16020915
>This is what hondafags believe

>>16021140
Yeah nobody in my town who drives something their parents bought can drive, let alone drive fast. It's actually kind of sad but I get a laugh out of it.
I use to have a 93 z28 with ~450 bhp and would burn almost anything but that didn't last long

>>16018069
yeah you can do that, just have your clutch down and it wont stall

>>16022440
You can start on gear without clutch too, it won't be pretty but it works. Bonus points for full throttle
instahektik

>>16015898
america please..

>>16014815
Probably 400-450 depending on if it's AWD or RWD

3000lbs and manual
How much to be fun? (Its already fun IMO)
Also what torque and power band range? since that's what actually matters for street use

>>16022824
yeah but he implied it's wrong or it will stall anyway, which will only happen without clutch. I thought was common procedure to start already pressing the clutch?

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>>16024124
Something with 220 ft-lbs on tap give or take can put a smile on your face.

My reference point is the IS300, ~3200 lbs, 220 ft-lbs, about the same hp, 3.0L NA 2JZ, and it can hoon around just fine if you know how to drive. There's a local guy with an MT swapped Sportcross he autox's occasionally, my want is strong.

>>16024665
What's better to aim for, low rpm power or high? Am choosing between cams/supercharger or turbo/built internals.

Pretty much limited to bolt-ons otherwise. Estimate I'll have about 10k I could put into it for autocross by next year.

>>16016247
Its pretty light for something with 700 hp

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>3400-3600lb LS1 f-body
>~320hp 350 lb-ft

feels pretty fucking fast desu

0-60 is right at 5 seconds stock and thats only 2nd gear

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>>16024935
Depends on what you like, go drive a pickup truck with a V8, the thing gets a surge at low rpm that wheezes out up top, vs. a high revving sports car like an S2000 where it's gutless below 5k rpm.

If you're autocrossing you probably want to prioritize torque across the whole range, you'll be down to 25 mph and it's more fun to be able to spin the wheels in second down there in a torquey car than have to try and downshift into 1st gear to get back in the power band on a peakier car.

If you're on the track you usually have more leeway to keep it in the powerband so a peakier car is easier to manage there than in other scenarios.

In daily odds are you want the low end torque there too because you'll be too lazy to downshift.

But personal preference is king, wringing every last drop of performance out of a peaky narrow power band car can be extremely rewarding. That's why for every Mustang/Camaro/Corvette I see autocrossing there are 4 S2000's at the same event. For all the shit Matt Farah gets he's got a great video comparing an LS swap to single turbo FD, whether or not you agree with him he presents it pretty well, there's a great quote in there:

>Most people like me say 'well you HAVE to wind it out' and rx-7 people will say 'no it means you GET to wind it out'... and they're two different schools of thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pay_-WMK_Y

>>16024665
>220 ft-lb

>not making that at idle
>>16025035

>>16025046
>not driving a v8 and making torque everywhere
>still get to wind it up when you want it to
>doesn't sound like Japanese school children playing with fireworks

>>16025035
>>16025051
>>16025059

I'm sure someday somebody will be able to love you like your mommy didn't.

>>16014815
would love to bury my face in there tbqhwyf

>>16025099
i daily drive an ef civic hatch around 100 miles

>wanting to drive chinese grain delivery scooters your whole life

>>16025035
>3400-3600lb LS1 f-body
So it can't turn, kewl

>0-60 is right at 5 seconds stock and thats only 2nd gear
0-60 gaurdrails in 5 sec is pretty impressive not going to lie

>>16025117
>not standing up for the car you own/chose to buy
This is the real issue.

>>16025189
>So it can't turn, kewl

the steering is light and not the best for road feeling (compared to my manual steering honda) - but the grip is excellent and the car is stupid capable

ive taken my ls1 fbody at 90+ mph sweepers and it holds the road like nothing ive driven before

cant turn was made up by miata fags. literally coming from someone who tries all day long to maximize how fast i can go around a corner in my weeb mobile

>>16025438
It wasn't made up. I used to own a camaro from the same era, compared to something like a rx7, 240 or hell even a 99+ mustang they handle like pigs. Never driven a civic of that era so idk if you have a good comparison vehicle or not, but supposedly they handle really well.

And don't get me wrong, the ls1 is a fantastic engine platform, but gm was still using leaf springs ffs.

>>16014815

I drive a genesis coupe that weighs in around that with 350bhp. I wouldnt describe it as fast to anyone who knows the difference. Its just "quick". 450 is the number youre looking for OP

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>>16014815
1500 kg? For me 300 would be enough to smoke any one of these fags in thread.

>>16026605

>my civic could pull with your vette bruh. Its all in the shifts

>>16026612
kek

Truth is tho, majority here couldn't handle 500 hp.

>>16026620

Probably true. First time i took traction control off i spun out entering an on ramp.
>mfw it only has 350hp
>mfw i talk shit all the time on this board
>mfw i have no face because i shitpost from my cell

190hp
my e39 is fast enough for me

>>16015654
she looks like a roastie, i feel sorry for the camera man, hes probably smelling all sorts of smells

>>16014815
My E36 328is weighed around 3200 lbs and had ~250 hp after m3 intake and cams swap and it was plenty of fun

>>16024290
The fact this needs explaining is fucking retarded.

Go put a shitbox in first gear and start it up, it will stall. Put a Vette in first gear and start it up and it'll have enough torque to jump forwards and drive.

>>16014815
*BRRRAAAAAAAPPPP*

1 whp for every 10 pounds usually makes a car quick.

I'd say probably 1.5whp/10 pounds for legit fast.

Beyond that to compete with supercars.

Guys, wtf is a Nerf girl?

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>>16028883
a korean with a sniffable cunny

Whatever gives you 900hp per ton or more, I don't know what the actual number is

You're driving a car that weighs 3860 lbs (1750 kg), how much rwhp does it need to be considered "fast" and how do I get it there without spending $7000 on a supercharger?

>>16014815
all the horsepowers

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>>16018031
yeah mang

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>>16025035
2008 Mustang gt. 300hp/300lb ft

Feels pretty quick and pulls well in second.

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>>16030461
2007 Mustang GT owner here, norm 300hp/300 lb ft
Can't wait to get up to that magical 450rwhp once I have the cash for a supercharger

>>16014815
ITT - dumb faggots that think BHP = speed.

OP, you would need to know gearing and torque also.

>>16031238
Meh.

That said, if the 3.5L ecoboost is ever offered in the Mustang I will be all over that like a fly on shit.

my car weighs 2800 lbs and it's got 170hp, is it fast?

450-500.

>>16014815
I had dream about this woman. It was a wet one.

>>16031568

Slower than a brz. According to everyone the brz is slow. So your car is slow.

>>16018468
>>16026517
>99 mustang

>Handling better than a ws6 ls1 trans am

Kek kill yourself

The mustang is on struts in the front..

>>16026517
>leaf springs

My car is coil sprung you sperg lord. With a panhard bar and sways

3300 perfect 1hp/lbs

>>16031646
she'll give u a wet one alright

*BRRRAAAAAAAPPPP*

all depends, i have a MS135 Toyota Crown that weighs about 4000lbs total. ive built the engine to about 230hp and the thing still rips hard for its weight

>>16031677
Oh mine too. Good to know you had to upgrade to get it close to my stock suspension.

>>16031675
Drive both and then say that again, nigger stop talking out of your ass.

>>16018331
>He owns a rusty pile of scrap
>It's not even the sprint model

lmao

>>16018331
nice dolly desu, but as this guy said

>>16032571

too bad its not a sprint

I used to pass a yellow and green Dolomite Sprint in mint condition every day on the way to school, never saw it drive ever and I don't see it anymore, hope its not a scrap job.

>>16014815
god damn i have had to see this porker legs up for three fucking days straight.. Can this thread die already?

>>16033161
>porker

Dude she's thicc.

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>>16033192
youre girl is honestly over weight, thick girls dont have any overhangs except ass and tits. Id like to see a photo of her in honest clothing standing upright

she needs to git gud like pic related

>>16033208
>like pic related
LOL

>>16033192
Nah she's got a fair belly, she's firmly in "fat fuck"

>>16033208
Fugg

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My 08 350z is 3300lbs. At 306hp id classify it as fast.

I've spent alot of time behind the wheel of a C6 z06 at 3200lbs with 505hp. I'd classify it as Fucking Fast.

Anything beyond that is not necessary for the street unless you frequent 1320video.

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>3500 pounds
>4 cylinder
>190hp
>was still faster than most v8
>is one of fords best handling cars

>>16035991
dat wheelgap

>>16014815
Omg that woman is so good looking I didn't think about BHP for a second. In my opinion 250hp is more than reasonable in most applications, especially for a street car. I had a car with 200hp about 3400lbs, and in my opinion it was plenty capable for an average person's use, and it was nice (quiet, and reasonably powerful) on the highway.

>>16028817
You're right, rotaries have fantastic power/weight!

>>16014815
What costume is that?

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>>16036035
That is a perfectly acceptable wheel gap for a mass produced vehicle that must be designed for many different daily scenarios. If you stance faggots wanna slam it while sucking your vape cocks and driving up and down main street while taking driveways at 1mph so be it but leave us normal non queer humans out of it. Also fuck off.

>>16033161
Low test beta

Can't handle the THICC

>>16036376
D.Va from Overwatch. Korean cutie with a mech.

>>16014815
240. i used to drive a volvo v70 t5, weighed 1600kg or so, and it was fast enough. it could've been faster, but by no means was it slow. especially compared to a standard v70, which only has like 170hp or so iirc.

I have 230hp at that weight and my car feels pretty fast, in part also because it has a shit chassis. So I guess 300 would be proper fast for me.

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>>16032565
>drive both

i can guarantee you have never driven an LS1 Fbody probably the V6 iron block shitheap and you obviously know nothing about them. my car is bone stock with AR wheels and bfgs

they do not have leaf springs. they do not have leaf springs. NO F-body had leaf springs since 1982.

however the MOOSESTANG has macpherson struts which is inferior to my f-bodies unequal length double wishbone suspension. (SLA)


>Double wishbones are usually considered to have superior dynamic characteristics as well as load-handling capabilities, and are therefore commonly found on sports cars and racing cars throughout automotive history. Examples of makes in which double wishbones can be found include Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, MG and Pontiac vehicles.


what was that last one?

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>>16038853
>(MacPherson Strut)Although it is a popular choice, due to its simplicity and low manufacturing cost, the design has a few disadvantages in the quality of ride and the handling of the car. Geometric analysis shows it cannot allow vertical movement of the wheel without some degree of either camber angle change, sideways movement, or both. It is not generally considered to give as good handling as a double wishbone or multi-link suspension, because it allows the engineers less freedom to choose camber change and roll center.

>>16015027
>he likes fatties

Waddup senpai

>>16014815
I have a 3300lbs car with 160hp is slow but not painfully slow

>>16038893
>tfw like fatties but too embarrassed to get one

what do

>>16038902
Honestly, if you can find a cute one just fucking go for it. The problem with liking fatties is that its extremely rare to find ones that are actually cute, and more often than not, the ones that are are always taken or have incredibly high standards because they know they're a catch.

If you're worried about catching shit from people don't worry about it, as long as she as an aknowledgably cute face then the only real thing they can tease you for is having a fat gf. Having a fat AND ugly gf is a no no, so just make sure she's presentable in public.