Whats the easiest car to do an LS swap on? I'm looking

Don't ruin a good e30. Coincidentally, it's a pain in the ass to do because of available space and the ls1 BARELY fits.

Drop it in an e36 or e46 if you must, they're easier to work in

>>15992481
Swap one into an Rx7 and piss of the rotards

>>15992493
Youre right, however where im from you get this thing called classic insurance and tax which is basically nothing to pay no matter what engine is inside it so thats why I was considering the e30

>>15992499
you sound like a millenial swagfag

>>15992504
You'd be better off getting the m50 or m52 motor and trans out of a late 90s 528i. It fits better and makes about as good performance as the car can handle.

I've met one guy with an LS swapped e30 from r3vlimited and in his own words "Was a bitch and a half to work around it, barely any clearance in any direction, and put so much torque to the wheels that it's undriveable in less than perfect conditions."

>>15992522
You sound like a rotard.

>>15992530
m52 is like out of an m3 or some shit right? or maybe m5? are they more compatible? and yeah i get how an ls swap would be a bitch.

>>15992541
nvm, I misread lul

>>15992530
basically looking for a car from 1988 downwards to do an LS swap on

>>15992531
>I <3 haters
you

Something that had a 350.

>>15992481
LS is just a meme.
Common HP was like 310.
Highest was 385.
V6 non-turbo mustang is 305 HP.
Injectors are running at GM's retarded 51 psi, so they're at their limit.
Stock intake, heads, cam, air and fuel delivery all cap at around 400hp. Its a one trick pony unless you replace parts- which you can do cheaper with a SB.
Have fun installing that 3 miles of wiring into your project car.

Its a junkyard option for people who can't build engines.

>>15992481
A old Volvo

XJ6

>>15992481
most 60's 70's and some 80's american cars as they generally have large engine bays, plenty of room to work in and get everything seated

>>15992481
A GM car that originally had a chevy small block in it to begin with? Because that's all an LS is, fancy name for chevy small block...

>>15992541
M52 is from facelift e36 325/328 and e39 525/528/530. It is the most common e30 swap and makes for a very peppy and reliable ride. But it is not a powerhouse.

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>>15992481
Turd gen camaro, probably. Everything pretty much just bolts right up, and there are kits available for the wiring. No space issues either, but if you get a used engine you will want to do the spark plugs and wires while it's out of the car.

Turd gens never started appreciating like first gens (and now second gens, kind of) did so they're all dirt cheap unless you find a super clean mothballed V8 model. Lots of aftermarket support for the engine, drivetrain, and chassis too.

That's what I'm gonna do eventually to mine, after I finish WRX swapping my legacy, anyway. I only got the camaro running to have something to drive while the soob's under the knife. Gonna find myself a donor catfish camaro SS for just about everything. Can't wait to get rid of the lame 305 and 4 speed manual for the LS1/T56 combo.

Is it true that getting an ls swap done for you by a mechanic or bodyshop will run you $20k+?

>>15992952
yeah good luck, wont work for me as im not american.
>>15993042
dunno, im not even that good at this shit so I'll probably have my uncle whos a mechanic for rally cars and shit to help me with it. I imagine it would be very expensive specially if you buy crate engines or like the ls7 is 8 to 10k dollaridoos

>>15992481
GUYS!!!!!
I KNOW!!!!I KNOW!!!!!
LETS PUT ONE IN A CORVETTE!!!!!!
CAN YOU EVEN FATHOM!!!!!!??????

>>15992886
You're in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history.

>>15992481
a miata, there are several kits to choose from like its THE car to LS swap

>>15993190
>non sequitur reply because my facts can't be refuted.

Stay butthurt

>>15992886
>swapping in a stock camaro spec ls1

>not believing replacing injectors is a common necessity when modifying an engine for more power

>american motor have shitty levels of flow in stock form

surprise surprise

>not knowing about painless wiring harnesses

>>15993462
The problem with the ls1 is that its already squeezing out as much power as it can.
Most other engines will benefit from each upgrade.

Every component on an ls becomes the next bottleneck as parts are upgraded.
>swap throttle body, does almost nothing because the intake is maxed out on flow.
>change intake, does nothing because of heads
>change heads, does nothing because of cam

The fact that a lot of LS motors are actually making less horsepower than a non-turbo'd V6 mustang is pathetic.

>>15992886
>LS3 makes 430hp stock

>>15992481
K code 289 in a 1966 mustang:
>0.93 HP/CI
LS1 in a 2002 camaro:
>0.90 HP/CI

Remarkable technological advancement....

>>15993597
Good luck finding one in a junkyard for less than $5k.
That's why "LS swap" refers to the LS1.

>6.2L LS3 makes the same power as a 5.0L coyote.
Once again pathetic.

Op, try looking up cars that have ls engine mounts available as a prefabbed thing. The 2nd gen gs300/400/430 has ls engine mount/tranny mount for sale as a set for like 1500. Add driveshaft, custom ps and ac lines and your ecu and harness wa la

>>15993622
>gross vs sae output

are all of you europeans like this? Or are you just a fordfag

>>15993594
The ls1 is certainly a flawed engine... Never heard of an engine needing an upgraded oil pump just because they have above stock power.

>>15993656
>50 years of GM advancements just to compensate for parasitic HP loss by accessory's- and they still came up short.

>>15993635
Considering it's approximately the same size and weight, not really.

>>15992481
There was a LS swap e30 at the cars and coffee I was at. Driver was a stancefag so you know he's not smart enough to do it himself so there are guides out there and other people know how to do it

>>15994314
Yeah but some guy said its harder to do on an e30 considering their size, i just looked it up and yeah, its very cramped, the guy also said an e30 cant handle the torque, dunno what to say about that maybe hes right. I'll just get an e36 or e46

>>15994365
Chassis probably needs bracing to avoid flexing or outright warping.

>>15994314
I think i saw an LS stancefag in some videos, the guy was a mexican looking cuck, not sure if same guy. Its interesting, I wonder if he paid someone to do it for him

how much hp does a ford 5.0 make generally and can you turbo it?

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>>15994481
i imagine its the same problem that the e30 has, weak body and small engine bay, probably a pain in the ass

>>15994428
Old 5.0 can pretty cheaply and easily make well over 300. I wouldn't turbo it. New 5.0 is expensive and huge but IIRC it's based on the Modular 4.6 and those things loved boost.

Something old and American that came with a 350

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>>15994428
592HP with a couple mods.

Friend had a similar build but ran a turbo with retarded psi (I only hit 7pounds)- he was just shy of 1,100HP but dialed it down after the dyno run for longevity.

>>15994658
Hey is this a good cam for my truck or is it too much lift?

https://m.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6250-e303

eurofag here, where can I get a cheap LS engine? ls1 or ls3 whatever, if anyone has experience

>>15994667
The FRPP alphabet cams are old tech.
Most people prefer split profile cams.
But there's nothing "wrong" with the b,e,f,x cams.

That cam has a decent lope- not too rough but everyone will hear its cammed.
I'd step up to an 1,800 stall converter at least for it.
Most setups are safe under .500 lift but you have to measure to be sure- most meaning most will have fly cut pistons.
Only go by stock compatibility figures if you're positive the block and heads have never been machined.
Stock 5.0 HO (like 87-93's) are 266°, .444 lift BTW.

>>15994847
If Vauxhall v8s were sold in your country then try find a wrecked one
Or import from America

>>15994865
And I wouldn't go any more aggressive than the e in a 3/4 ton.
Like an f cam will lose too much off-idle.
E is a good choice overall though.

>>15992481
>Whats the easiest car to do an LS swap on?

A Camaro with a blown up LS engine.

>>15994882
they probably were, is ebay the best place to buy engines doe? i checked quickly and some of them sell for like 10k or some shit in the US.

1983 C-1500

>>15994938
For 10k it will be an LS3/6/7 (I hope).
An LS1 is still a couple grand through. They vary a lot depending on year, displacement, iron or aluminum.

>>15994969
yeah, ls3 and ls7, i found a few available that are decent price but they come with an auto transmission and it kinda defeats the point

>>15994969
>LS1
>They vary a lot

LS1 are only aluminum and 5.7 Liters. Sounds like you're grouping in the Iron Block LM/LR/LQ motors that ranged from 4.8 to 6.0 and everywhere else.

All the main LS# motors are aluminum only. LQ and LM's can be bought for under and on average around a grand now. An actual LS motor will usually cost a decent amount more but it's for obvious reasons.