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Is it possible to do an engine swap in RX-7 to replace the rotary

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Is it possible to do an engine swap in RX-7 to replace the rotary with something else? Is there enough space? Do you know something who done dat and what engine is recommended?
I love RX-7 stylistics and want to buy one, replace the rotary since i hate this kind of engine then mod it so its one of a kind a e s t h e t i c machine. I can easily afford RX-7 but i wonder how much the swap costs and if its possible.
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>>15969772
I told you. Youre a terrible troll.
Its painfully obvious that this is b8
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>>15969772
Have you thought about looking a the internet even once before posting this?
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>>15969804
>painfully obvious b8
That you responded to
Good lord
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>>15969825
Well you are here too.
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>>15969843
Calling out b8. Yeah
At least i sage it
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>>15969804
Yeah but i cant find some reliable material. Its cool to get some opinion firsthand.

>>15969798
>>15969825
>>15969843
>>15969860
Fuck off if you dont want to discuss on topic.
>a bloo bloo rotary
Its MY car and i can do whatever i want with it (once and if i buy it of course). Same applies for stance faggots etc., i dont like stance personally but i dont care if other people do it, their cars, their sense of aesthetics.
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>>15969908

the rx-7/dorito cultists hate any discussion that isn't praise about their deity.

please delete this thread and remake it with the declaration that rx-7 is the lord and wankel the holy spirit and that you wish to commit blasphemy by separating them.
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>>15969908
LS swap. Rotarys are shit.
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>>15969936
>>15969772
$500 and an afternoon
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>>15969936
this
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>>15969772
Plenty of room in there to drop in a real engine.
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buy a fucking Corvette
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>>15969949
They even replaced the retarded pop-up headlights. Cry more.
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>>15969957
what is the point?

>hurr da rodary too hard to fix all da tiem bc i'm a shit mechanic
>i kno i'll put a lsone in dere! xddd

That's what LS swapped RX7 owners are to me.
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>>15969972
Some people like torque.
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>>15969972
>more reliable
>faster
>doesn't mess with the weight balance and handling
>doesn't require special snowflake care
It's literally a better car in every way with an LS.
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>>15969972
Ignorant people who fear what they dont understand.
Thats all it is
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>>15969949
This. The c5 corvette is your ls swapped FD
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>>15969979
>more reliable
No
>faster
No
>doesn't mess with the weight balance and handling
It does actually
>doesn't require special snowflake care
Neither does a rotary

Nice display of ignorance though
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>>15969979
at that point it's just a Miata ls swap with a hard top
what's the fucking point

Rotary is the only way to go with the RX7 and RX8, just have an alternate beater and take care of the engine
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>>15969986
But the torque?
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>>15969992
Rotaries have a nice flat curve.
Your ignorant to think otherwise
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>>15969986
>>15969987
Enjoy having no torque and terrible fuel economy, not to mention engine rebuilds every 100k.

An aluminum LS doesn't weigh more than the stock engine with all its turbo plumbing and has literally none of the downsides.
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>>15969977
see
>>15969949

>>15969979
>>more reliable
lol
>>faster
no, just easier to make stupid lolmuhhighwayrollracing hp numbers with because displacement
>>doesn't mess with the weight balance and handling
i've seen those too, so okay
>>doesn't require special snowflake care
wow mixing 2 cycle oil in your fuel, checking the oil regularly, and high revs on a daily basis sure are hard!

oh yeah
>LS owners in charge of basic maintenance
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Everyone keeps talking about v8 swap this and that.

What I want to know is, why not a turbo i4 or boxer?
As long as you can get something that revs high and doesn't weigh as much as three bathtubs, you should be able to somewhat preserve the excellent balance and light weight of the RX-7.

So, if you could just find a suitable replacement from Japan, you should be good to go.
And maybe the ford ecoboost mustang engine.
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>>15969996
The curve is nice and smooth but more than 100lb-ft lower.
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>>15970003
>every 100k
wow that's soooo often, right
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>>15970016
>needs 5.7 to 7.0 liters to compete with a 1.3L
Im tired of V8 tards.
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>>15970003
All this ignorance packed into one post
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>>15970024
Bbbbbut the torque to fuel consumption ratio and your turbo counts as displacement.
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>>15969977
>buy a different car
It would be cheaper and easier to do so.

I mean, I can understand doing a swap, just for the sake of doing a swap. But at this point, if you're gonna swap out a dorito for a dildo, you should probably do something interesting. People put LS engines into so many things.

So now's a good time to tackle the problem of swapping a dorito for a Kawasaki ZX-1100 engine, or a busa swap, or something else that's crayolas.
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Is it a full moon? Rotards have been shitting up /o/ more than usual lately. I guess I would be pretty mad if my car had a rotary too.
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>>15970062
Well you're too stupid and probably too poor to even deal with one so I can understand why you'd be mad

basically like
>>15969980
said
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>>15970055
>Hey, I see you've chosen a good, driveable, high performance engine for your swap
>but it's not interesting to me. i've seen it done over and over again! that engine is just so good it's popular!
>please do a shittier swap in order to appease my appetite for novelty.

Fucking hipsters
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>>15970071
>Hey, I see you've picked up a car that has a rotary engine
>Do you know anything about them
>>hell no mane i'm droppin that piece of shit out and slappin a gotdamn EL ESS ONE on there, baby! yeehaw!
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>>15970071
Swapping out a rotary for a v8 is a hipster move in the first place. If you didn't want a rotary, why did you buy a rotary car in the first place? There's a plethora of cheaply available v8 cars. Just get a shitty 80s Camaro or Corvette and use GM's massive amount of aftermarket support to put whatever LS you want into the car. Everything is prefab or has a kit available.

But nah, buy a rotary car, yank out the 13b, and ruin the entire purpose of buying the car in the first place.

v8 swaps are hipster in the first place. Now if you're gonna do a swap, at least make it interesting.
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>>15969908

>Its MY car and i can do whatever i want with it
Actually no it isn't as you probably can't afford one, much less the swap. so you can rightly fuck off with your bait posts.
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>>15970083
>Do you know anything about them?
>yes i don't want to do a rebuild every two years, i'm putting in a good engine that has a lot of support available for swaps. i just want the RX-7 body for the looks.
>HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE ROTARY
>"yall hyuck fuckin mah dog in da pooper ls engine da best i like to dick horses more than muh cousins chebby life" that's you

Seriously faggot

swap != putting the old engine through a shredder

Every LS swapped RX is another spare engine on the market for you to use for parts (and I know you need those) :^)
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>interior sucks to live with
>rattle and makes noises because old
>body and interior trim is rare and therefore expensive
>interior worn out. Lots of craft projects to look decent
>bushings worn out
>FD rx7 community arguably the worse of all rotaries. Fc also shit tier. FB and older rotaries are more chill, less Monster ballcap wearing millennials.
>No rotors swapped FD community even worse
>No fucking head room, have to be jap manlet to fit
>Need to be intelligent to own

Don't buy one op. They aren't for you I assure you.
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>>15970055
It's not a difficult swap at all.
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>>15970107
>every two years
kek, so is it two years or 100k?

>LS
>good
pick one

>reminder
Buy a Corvette
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>>15970107
see
>>15970008
>wow mixing 2 cycle oil in your fuel, checking the oil regularly, and high revs on a daily basis sure are hard!


Taking a rotary out of a rotary car and then swapping in a v8 is basically wearing a banner that says
>I AM INCOMPETENT
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>swap LS into FD
>see all the rotards incessantly cry

It's like it pays for itself
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>>15970135
That would require you to actually have a FD, now wouldn't it
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>>15970135
>paying to swap an LS1 into an RX-7
>wasting money to turn it into a bootleg corvette
>fastest RX-7's on track are still rotary powered anyways
lol have fun being a special snowflake.
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>>15970166
but 60 rolls, bro

60 rolls
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>>15970018
>trying to justify a rebuild at 100k.

my oldest car, a 95 accord has 255k on it and the engine runs like a champ.

cry more
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>>15970193
>cry more
>my 95 accord is better xddd

lmao at ur life desu senpai
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>>15970166
oh boy do you look stupid
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Thanks for replies guys. It seems my plan can actually be realized.

>>15970096
Im sorry for you, you must have a terrible life to unleash your projections and frustrations on anonymous board. I live in EU and i have about 50k $ spending money per year from my software engineer job, im sure ill be able to afford non-rotary RX-7.
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>>15970206 here also OP

See its not even so expensive, probably needs some work though.

Any European engine alternatives to LS1? Something like BMW perhaps?
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>>15970206
>wow guys can't you see, I'm rich. I can do what I want because I'm smart.

>>>>i wonder how much the swap cost
I love questions like this, because it lets me (and every mechanic on the face of the planet) know that you are retarded, and that I should take as much money from you as possible.
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>>15970015
Boxers are too wide, they'd require reworking the entire front suspension.

Inline four makes no sense. You'd be better, and cheaper, off just building the existing rotary in an FD. Now, a 2.3 DISI Turbo into an RX-8, that'd be something I could understand. Or an Mazda KL-ZE V6, with the oiling reworked so it can turn 9000 RPM like the rotary, but without the oil and fuel problems.
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>>15970166
falling for obvious bait
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>>15970214
>thirty thousand dollars
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>>15970090
The only use I could think of would be SA22's, because they're lighter drag chassis' than the equivalent Mustang, even if you swap the LS in.
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>>15970221
Well, i wonder because i dont know if ill be able to afford it with my current savings or ill have to wait a little longer. I want to both buy and engine swap it in short period of time, i dont want to buy the car and have to wait.

mechanics can take lots of money as long as job is done correctly and there will be no problems later on.
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>>15970232
bro, I'm stopping my bit of flaming you for a second here.

You're looking at paying Thirty. Thousand. Dollars. for a car you want to swap the drivetrain out of. Do yourself a favor and buy one that doesn't have an engine in it already.

Or buy that one and fall in love with the rotary :^)
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>>15970214
OP, why would you bother?

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/autos/chevrolet--corvette?allmakes=1&make=15,,&model=217,0,0&priceto=30000&sort=year_desc&st=2&trans=20&vehtyp=10

You can get a C6 Corvette for less, with less miles, and it'll be newer. Oh, and that's without accounting for the 20K CHF you'll need to swap it, and then I'd count on another 20K to make it road legal, because Switzerland is a bitch. By the time you add that, you could be looking at an LS7 C6 Z06, or maybe even a C7.
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>>15970245
Its hard to find it cheaper. And if its in good condition i can sell the engine no? I bet some people are looking for replacement parts etc.
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>>15970070
>assmad Rotary fangirl

lol
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>>15970248
I dont want corvette
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>>15970214
>Something like BMW perhaps?
A BMW V8 would probably be too wide thanks to it's DOHC setup. That would leave you with small and gutless 4.0 V8's, or pushrod units like the LS and Hemi. Hemi is iron block so heavy, which means you'd be best of with an LS.

And for that I refer you to >>15970248.
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>>15970250
Could you not import one that needs work from Japan?

>>15970252
>pistoncuck mad he got btfo
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it seems like you could make the rotary in the FD basically indestructible for the cost of an ls1 swap
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>>15970255
>I want a RWD LS V8 2-door, but I don't want a Corvette
Then consider a ponycar.
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>>15970230
If we're doing an engine swap and are this concerned about weight, then we could open up the idea of a busa swap. The engines weight about 170 pounds, as opposed to the 400ish of a 13b fully dressed as a twin turbo, or the 430 pounds of a completely stripped down LS7.

A turbobusa in an RX7 with an electric reverse gear would be much more interesting. If you wanted to find a way to get it to match up with the Mazda tranny, that'd be harder.

But could you imagine halving the weight on the nose, getting around 500 hp, and tucking the engine right behind the front wheels of a car that weighs only 2200 pounds, and you haven't even gutted it for racecar mode yet?

Sounds like a neat and unique project.
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>>15970204
prove me wrong, only people who do LS1 swaps on RX-7's are wannabe special snowflakes with more money than brains and just want to get attention.

Even more hipster than rotards themselves.
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I heard only of Honda K24 and Audi 1.8T Swaps, but still if you can afford RX-7 you should afford all the repairs needed.

Also, come buy car from Poland, for 10k$ you can buy good RX-7 so it's shitload of saved money, for 30k$ you can find, R33, Supa MkIV or Ferrari Mondial if you want.
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>>15970263
But why desecrate the heavy FD, when you can just buy a Locust kitcar that's already got a proper gearbox with reverse, and it's bound to be lighter anyways?
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>>15969772
Seriously just get a C5, it looks similarish and there's a fuckton of aftermarket.
With some well chosen mods you can end up with something better than most RX7s
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>>15970275
>C5
For OP's pricepoint, he could get a neat C6, which should outrun an FD.
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>>15970193
XDDDD Honda fags back at it again
>b-but muh accord is definitely an enthusiast car guys :^(
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>>15970283
True, but it doesn't look sort of like an FD and does look pretty ugly.
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>>15970274
Because then I could buy an FB RX7 for like a grand with a blown engine, start at 2200 pounds, hook up a turbobusa courtesy of your local gentlemen of enhanced melanin, throw in an electric reverse, and I have no idea how much the swap should actually cost. Fabbing custom mounts should run a pretty penny.

But it should cost less than a lotus kit car. I'm not very well informed on lotus kits.
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>>15970024
You mean a twin turbo 3.9?
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>>15970297
Great idea if you like replacing rod and main bearings every 30k.
Better off building an aluminium high compression 3 rotor
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>>15970214
>Any European engine alternatives to LS1?
No.
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>>15970298
it's 2.6L senpai
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>>15970309
but rotaries are hard to work on and muh special snowflake and premixing is hard becuase math and other reasons
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>>15970297
There's prebuilt kits nowadays that allow you to build a bike-engine Locust for about 15K USD.

http://www.kitcarcollection.com/kitcarsite/page_voorraad_bec

Several for sale here for about 12K, already built. Hooking up the hayabusa motor with a custom plate, fabbing motor mounts, and doing all the work yourself is going to create a lot of work hours. In the end, it'll be cheaper and easier to go with a kit
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>>15970310
The AJ-V8, it takes boost like a champ.
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>>15970024
And yet the 7.0 uses less fuel
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>>15970340
I'd like to see it take 1000hp like an ''LS'' 5.3.
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>>15970346
https://youtu.be/pul_aYFvX5g
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I just pulled the 12a out of my FB. Trying to figure out how the fuck to mount it on cheap shit harbor freight engine stand
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>>15970377
>1 single video without even a dyno chart or link to that 1000hp kit
Yeah, no. With enough work and a big enough blower, it can probably pull it off, but it can't do it on stock internals (with the rings regapped) like a 5.3 could.
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>all these people saying buy a corvette

lel

I mean if you can find an Rx7 shell or just one with an already fucked rotary engine then yes you should swap whatever the fuck you want into it.

dont buy an Rx7 that has nothing wrong with it and then swap an LS1 into it.
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>>15970315
It's funny because rosaries are legendarily simple to work on.
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>>15970412
>please believe these """"""""""""""""facts""""""""""""""""""" I just pulled outta my ass
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>>15970599
Stock 4.8 bottom end, regapped rings, 1200hp:
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-1109-stock-gm-ls-engine-big-bang-theory/

Stock 5.3 bottom end, regapped rings, 1300hp:
http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/1213tr-vortec-5-3l-big-bang/

So, where's that 1000hp AJ V8 dyno sheet? I'll even accept one without a stock bottom end.
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>>15970647
Don't forget that the AJ V8 will be way bigger and way heavier, because of its DOHC construction.

You can't beat an LS for its combination of big displacement, big power potential, small size and low weight.
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>>15970399
>12a

Get a mate and mount it in the nearest fucking bin instead.
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memes aside (pls no shitposts) how unreliable are rotaries? you guys make it sound like they're gonna blow up after 1k miles, but how often do you really have to maintain it and is it really just apex seals?
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>>15970844
Change oil every 2-3k miles/3 months (whichever happens first). Let the engine warm up properly before using the car.

Use the car at least once a week. Don't over rev the car whilst it's in neutral like the idiots you see on youtube doing.

TL:DR Use your common sense.

You'll be fine.
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>>15969957
fuck you that looks ugly as shit
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>>15970943
See, that's what I thought. I know they tend to have cooling issues (at least the FD's seem to) but otherwise I never understood why people hate them. I suppose it's just the people who want to run their pushrod V8s to 200k miles without maintaining anything other than fluids.
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>>15970090
>>15970230
The reason it's done is basically that.

Other V8 cars that are heavier. But you can't just put an LS1 in the lightest RWD car and expect it to handle power.

Of all chassis and drivetrains that are 2300lb or less, pretty much none of them can handle 700+ horsepower like the RX7 can.

Anyone that says it doesn't affect the handling is lying. The CG is higher. The polar moment of inertia is higher. But it still handles better than a C4 or C5 Corvette.
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>>15970844
they undeniably are significantly less reliable and especially less durable than piston engines.
both engines are used for the same mean, so why not use traditional piston engine which can take more punishment and you dont have to babysit it.
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>>15970272
pawel, you got cucked, im in the UK and i can buy the same car for 10k euros but your economy is way more dogshit
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>>15970844
older non-turbos can hit 200k miles with minimal but regular maintenance. My 12a is at 100k right now, but when I bought it a couple years ago it had been sitting in a garage for 10 years with all the fluids still in it. The only reason I'm rebuilding it is because it leaks oil and coolant; compression is still within spec. We'll see what kind of shape the seals are in when I crack it open tomorrow.
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>>15970272
Those wheels and that fucking "intake".

That owner doesn't deserve money at all for that car.
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>>15970412
LS cannot take boost for shit
Inb4 hot rod article of an iron block vortec
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>>15970647
Not an ls1
Try again retard
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>>15970214
>back wheel drive

You don't say?
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>>15970003
>>15970016
>>15969977
Torque is irrelevant
Horsepower is king
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>>15970221
>and that I should take as much money from you as possible

And swap in a rotary engine with an ls badge on top. As long as it's shiny Opie won't know the difference
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>>15969772
>Do you know something who done dat
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>>15969977
> t. dont know how to downshift
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>>15970015
why exactly?

spend just as much money fixing the 13B-REW's issues (cast iron headers, rat's nest, cooling) and you'd have a pretty darn reliable engine
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>>15970107
in the case of an rx7 without an engine it's not absolutely terrible

but the idea of taking a unique car and throwing out most of what made it unique just so you can have something that looks cool is a little dumb
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>>15970221
lol, this is correct

>ls swap tard takes his rx7 to shop
>40k+ later, doesnt even run
roflmao
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>>15973792
>getting a swap done at a shop
>not doing it yourself
How big of a cuck can you be?
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>>15973843
ask this man

>>15969772
>>15970206
>>15970214
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>>15970193

>my accord is more reliable than a sports car

water continues to be wet
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>>15971846
See: >>15970346
>I'd like to see it take 1000hp like an ''LS'' 5.3.

>>15971832
Vortec V8's are commonly called LS type though, to distinguish them from previous SBC's.
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