ITT: We post our top three favourite and least favourite manufacturers,

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>>15803320
I see you also enjoy picnics on the side of the highway

>>15803320
Best
-Ford
-Honda
-BMW

Worst
-Mazda
-Cadillac
-Audi

going off combination reliability and fun.

>inb4 bmw isn't reliable

>>15803320
>favourite
Ferd- Makes something for everybody, interiors are far from the worst in cars at that price and their lineup is still somewhat exciting.

Mercedes- seems to have their shit together the best for a Yuro luxury company.

Aston Martin- Best exotic company that is about more than just numbers and doesn't have a complete douche crowd

Dodge/Jeepwould be 4th just because it seems like they don't give a fuck selling cars like the Snek and Hellcat yet their regular lineup still has so many huge issues all the time. I would never hesitate to lease a Dodge under warranty.

>Haters
Honda- Make something exciting already. Inb4 RSX. In pretty much every segment, if I were willing to give up any design and excitement for reliability and gas mileage, I would buy the Toyota model over a similar Honda.

Chebby- I'm convinced GM puts a total of 200 miles on their test cars before putting them in dealerships. Drivetrains normally last but everything else falls apart.

BMW- terrible fanbase who claims they are "Cars made for drivers" yet they are just becoming more and more of normie appliance cars.

Best
>Honda
>Ford
>Mazda
Worst
>vw
>Audi
>Chevy

>>15803320
Best:
>Toyota
>Older Nissans
>Mazda for being a sort of wildcard

Worst:
>Kia
>Buick
>Current Mitsubishi (lol hopefully Nissan gets them to make insane sports cars again)

>>15803415
Type R's are pretty interesting
Mercedes has the worst owners of any brand next to bmw
pre 2005 mustang interiors are some of the worst of any cars

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Most favorite:
1. Tesla
2. GM
3. Tie between Volvo and Volkswagen

Least favorite:
1. Toyota
2. Fiat

I can't think of a third worst. I'm mostly indifferent with other brands.

My appreciation for GM and Volkswagen is rising.

My appreciation for Tesla, Volvo, Toyota, and Fiat is static.

>>15803490

Correction: My application for Tesla is slightly rising.

>>15803418
>>15803401
what's so bad about audi?

>fav
Ford
Mercedes Benz
Bugatti (dat type 34)

>>15803509
>application

On an unrelated note, my appreciation for autocorrect is considerably dropping.

>>15803510
Its VWs gay luxury brand. The Quattro was cool but gone are the glory days of Group B.

>>15803510
Literally VWs in a fancy suit with an insultingly inflated price tag, usually driven by minorities that want to look rich or assholes with an over-inflated ego.

>>15803442

Best

-BMW
-Corvette
-TVR

Worst

-Audi
-Ford
-Chevrolet

>>15803442
Toyota is the king of the car world obvioisly.

You probably are a drifter if you like Nissans like that.

Lol for every Rx7 Mazda makea some gay ass cars

>>15803571
>best corvette
>worst chevrolet
L-lol?

Worst
1. VW
2. Plymouth
3. Dodge
4. Chrysler
5. Nissan

Best
1. Mazda
2. Honda
3. Toyota
4. BMW
5. Ford
6. Audi
7. Chevy
8. Kia
9. Hyundai
10. Fiat

I can honestly say, most car manufactures have at least one car I like, and If I had the money i'd buy.

Mopar nissan and VW literally have none.
>inb4 hellcat
>inb4 GTI
>inb4 GTR

VW and Chrysler interiors are just cheap. Like even cheaper than kia/hyundai with the exception of the phaeton.

Nissan only made one good car ever, the GTR.

The S chassis is for secretaries. The GTR is a lowered elongated juke.

The only good car nissan arguably ever made was the 240z. And that's a Datsun.

>>15803600
>Audi in "best"
>literally upmarket VWs

>>15803600
Nice troll.

S chassis undeniably best bang for buck car series of the 90s.

Also fucking lol:
>Kia

Are you serious? The ONLY reason this company is in business is because they sell cheap pieces of actual garbage to non-car plebs. The only reason they are even remotely interesting is for business reasons, not their actual cars. I bet you the type of cuck that sits on their website "building your own" Optima like the bus riding window shopper you seem.

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Most favorite:
Toyota/lexus, particularly 90's/early 2000's lexus
Honda
Pre-2004 BMW

Least favorite:
Post-2004 BMW
audi/vw
most 90s/2000s American cars
and hyundai I guess

on a side note I didn't realize the e39 was designed by a jap lol

>>15803660
E39 loses power in 3rd gear when sliding it around lol

But yeah your list is extremely legit.

Fuck you I'm doing 5

Best:
BMW (I'd have said worst a year ago but I've done extensive research on the brand since then and they make a ton of good cars)
Porsche
Mazda
Ford
Lexus

Worst:
Mercedes Benz (Lexus one-ups them all around, shit-tier business practices etc.)
Honda (Went from comfy, reliable econoboxes to pigfat landbarges with terrible interiors)
Toyota (same as Honda to a lesser extent)
Buick
Ferrari

>>15803660
examples of 90s/00s american cars you hate? Personally that only fits GM not every car made in America

>>15803596
Best:
Kia
Hyundai
Equus
Toyota
Lexus
Ford
Lincoln
Nissan
Infiniti
Proctor& Gamble
Kraft Foods
Glaxo Smithkline
Pfizer
FIAT
Chrysler

Worst:
BMW
Audi VAG
Jaguar
Mazda
Honda
GM
Mercedes
Holden
Opel
Suzuki
Subaru
Mitsubishi
Volvo
Lamborghini
Ferrari
Tesla
TVR
Non-G20 member states
Alfa
Aston Martin
Land Rover
Maybach
Bentley
Bugatti
Acura
Daihatsu
Dacia

>>15803683
Also E46/E90 best 3 series, the latter being extremely underrated.

>>15803678
>E39 loses power in 3rd gear when sliding it around lol

What?

>>15803320
>Best
Ford
Lexus
Subaru
>worst
Mitsubishi (they got rid of everything fun and interesting)
Dodge
Fiat
KIA

>>15803721
Nice wishlist of a purebred tire kicker.

>>15803737
Do u even drift? Jk enjoy your fwd econobox.

>>15803571
best BMW
worst Ford

I think you mixed those two up

Best:
Toyota
Ford
Subaru

Worst:
BMW
Whatever
Who cares

>>15803706

That's why I said most not all. I used to valet when I was in highschool, most of the american cars I drove had some of the shittiest interiors I've ever seen outside of old kias, really tainted my view of them.

gt/base model mustangs
focus - I know they're supposed to be reliable but they had really shitty interiors and felt poorly made overall.
Pretty much all Pontiac outside of the gto, g8 and maybe firebird.
All gm outside of corvettes and some GMC
didn't drive many dodges.

the base model mustangs at the time were so god damn shitty Idk how they got away with selling them, noticeably bad turning radius/suspension, cabin noise, shitty interior, everything was bad. I kind of liked GM SUVs, Denali's were nicer than anything ford or dodge had at the time, interiors still weren't better than Japanese SUVs.

American cars have improved a lot since then though, specifically ford.

Best:
BMW
Mazda
Datsun

Worst:
Audi
Kia
Fiat

lol thats an easy one
best
toyota
nissan
honda

worst
jag
benz
dodge

>>15803911
>Datsun
>Best

Did we just become best friends?

5

Best:
Mazda
Old Nissan
Ford
Old BMW
Subaru

Worst:
FCA
VW
Mitsubishi
New Nissan
New Toyota

Top 3

>Hyundai
>Kia
>Subaru

Least fav
>Toyota
>Ford
>Mazda

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Best
>chebby
>BMW
>Pre 2000 Nissan (muh r33)
>pre 2000 Toyota

Indifferent
>ferd
>mazda

Worst
>FCA (dodge and jeep are good)
>VAG
>Honda

>>15804007
I forgot to say porsche god tieraa

Best
>McLaren
>Dodge(pre-FCA)
>Toyota

Worst
>Fiat
>Honda
>Ford

Based on how they are today

Good enough:
Toyota
Honda
Ford

Worst:
VAG
FCA
Nissan

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Best
>Mercedes
>Porsche
>Bmw
>Audi

Worst
>Gm
>Ford
>FCA
>Toyota
>Anything korean

>>15803620
VWs look like ass. Audis look better. Not to mention Audis have V8s, the S4/S6 are pretty good. I'm not talking about the lower model passat clones.

>>15803650
Best bang for buck car in the 90's? Try a Civic. Or a sw20. Plenty of other cars in the 90s that are just as good. S Chassis is over rated.

They got all their acclaim through drifting. Which explains why they're so popular.

>McPherson Strut
>Truck engine
>2 piece drive shaft(why?)

It wasn't until the s14 that Nissan decided to cash in on a semi-worthy platform.

I'd rather own a 86 than a s12/s13 any day of the week.

Fav:

Honda
Mazda
Subaru

Least:

Chevy
Mercedes
Dodge

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Favourite
>Mazda
>Porsche
>Toyota

Least Favorite
>Hyundai
>Kia
>Buick

Wildcard
>Caterham

>>15803898
yeah new edge mustangs are pretty bad for interiors and I own one. Then again I really couldn't care less about interiors.

OP is a hipster. Take a mercedes engine apart and each individual part is beautifully engineered. Fuck you.

>>15804225
also drive a 2005 gm suv (tahoe) and I'd take muh ferd 2v over it anyday

>>15803490
>>15803995
>>15804044
why don't you guys like toyota

>>15804260
>prius
>prius
>prius

Their best car was made 30 years ago

>>15804260

I like old Toyota. Not these push out as many Economy cars as we can Toyota.

Pretty sure Toyota is the only brand that doesn't have a turbocharged vehicle, when back in the day they were kings of turbo vehicles.

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>>15803415
What about the Honda S2000?
Not exciting enough?

>>15804268
>>15804281
when you guys actually get jobs you'll realise why toyota is so popular

>>15804323
not sure I understand why having a job would make me want to drive a tampon on wheels. But it doesn't seem to have worked so far, maybe when I go fulltime I'll go full tampon. For now it's part tampon for me.

>>15804012
>Porsche
>Good
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but don't Pawrsheehs fall apart really quickly and cost a ton to repair?

>>15803510
Complete pieces of shit that are meant to break down at around 80k-100k mi no matter how well you take care of them.

>>15803721
>>15804007
>>15804018
Why don't you guys like Honda?
I get they never make anything exciting, but with the exception of the '01 Civic and the Seventh Gen Accords, all of their cars are super reliable and cheap for what you get out of them. I had one guy tell me that he used to work at a dealership and the number one reason people sold back their cars wasn't because they were bad, but because the owner just had it forever and grew tired of it since it never died on them.
Plus, didn't the S2000 hold the world record for highest horsepower-per-liter for quite some time? Honda's one of the few companies that has truly mastered the combustion engine.

>>15804412
Personally I hate Honda owners and love Hondas.

>>15804296
Not him but the S2K isn't bad but it's overrated as fuck and hasn't been in production for a while. It's also the only interesting car Honda has made period if we're excluding one model from Acura.

>>15804412
Did the 7th gen Accord have reliability problems? I've been looking at them for a new daily

>>15804454
what about the CR-X?

>>15804475
>FF

>>15804475
It's really hard to call that "interesting" with a straight face.

>>15804486
define interesting m9

Best:
>Subaru
>Chevrolet
>Nissan

Worst:
>Ford
>Mazda
>BMW

Best

-Kawasaki
-Nissan
-Mercedes

Worst

-Volvo
-Chrysler
-Daihatsu

Best
-OLD Volvo
-Lexus (Toyota)
-Ford


Worst
-GM
-Ford
-NEW Volvo
cars a shit

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>>15804469
Pic related is my DD. (2004 Ex V6 Coupe) 210,000 miles and no problems other than an A/C Freon leak (which is hell in the South, but that's cool that that's the only problem).
Before buying it, I did a ton of research into the car and saw that they tend to have transmission issues, but in the end (I was seventeen at the time. I only just turned 18 a few weeks ago), my mother convinced me to buy it. I haven't had any problems aside from the aforementioned A/C and the car's been amazing, but, of course, my research still suggested things that are worrisome.

Mainly, it's the tranmission supposedly going out around 90,000 on most of them and interior accessories falling apart.

>>15804427
What's wrong with Honda owners? I assume most are douchebag hipster Civic drivers or those fags that drive old Hondas with the same attitude of a Miata owner?

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>>15803349
you must own either a Benz, Mazda or Hyundai.
E39 = best sedan ever made and is BMW.

>>15804527
tldr; I couldn't afford an E60

>>15804515
When does Volvo become bad?

>>15804522
pretty much nailed it. especially here in central florida where rice rules the roads

>>15804527
What's wrong with the suspension on that e39?
I don't own any of those, I mostly align with >>15803660

>>15804547
...shieeet
I'm >>15804519

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>>15804475
The CRZ could have been awesome, but they kind of blew it in my opinion.

>>15804542
>Switches to FWD/AWD.
>Ford becomes owner.
>Fucking Chinese GEELY becomes owner.
>Reliability becomes a shit.
>Maintenance becomes a shit, mechanics now hate them.
>Best car brand becomes the worst.

At least they're the safest.

>>15804579
not a bad looking car. I can't really talk since I drive the most hated car on the internet.

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>>15804522
Miatafags aren't even that bad except maybe NA owners. This is how Honda drivers tend to act which is where they get their reputation. Not to mention 90% of stanced/riced shitboxes on the road are civics.

>>15804527
>E39 = best sedan ever made and is BMW.


>Has fucking 25 different engine options.
>8 transmission options, including GM transmissions.

what.the.fuck

BMW a shit

>>15804606
Also see: filename

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>>15804527
Dr. pavel, I'm AAA.

>>15804602
Ooh. What is that?

Best:
-Mercedes-Benz
-Subaru
-Toyota

Worst:
-Hyundai/KIA
-Ford
-Chevy
-Chrysler

>>15804617
>even the base 520i is a 6 cylinder
>timeless looks
>reliable BMW
>comfy as fuck interior
>available today cheap as chips

Fucking kill yourself you piece of shit.

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>>15804639
pr

>>15804649
>reliable
Maybe in comparison to other BMWs. have you ever owned one? I thought it was common knowledge they're unreliable.

>>15804626
Was breaking down on the side of the highway part of your plan?

>>15804584
I meants when as in what year sorry

>Best
Lexus
Mazda
Mercedes

>Worst
Kia
Audi
Chevrolet

>>15804691
Of course! We had to find out your response times.

>>15803600
>Worst
>1. VW
>2. Audi
>3. New Toyota
>4. BMW
>5. Plymouth
>6. Dodge
>7. Chrysler
>8. Fiat
>9. Nissan
>10. Subaru

>Best
>1. Old Toyota
>2. Mazda
>3. Mitsubishi
>4. Honda
>5. Porsche
>6. Chevy
>7. Ford
>8. Kia/Hyundai
Needed some work but you weren't too far off the mark.

>>15804469
The v6 7th gens are prone to transmission problems. If you get an i4 you should be good to go.

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>>15804535
Used e60's aren't even worth more than e39's and they're a shitty & gay. e39 is a much nicer car.

>>15804669
I've owned 10 bmw's and none of them ever broke down, despite high mileage and demanding driving. Maybe you're not ready to own a car?

Best:

Cadillac
Saab
BMW

Worst:

Mercury
Saturn
Hyundai

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>>15803320
1st: Duesenberg
-There will never be better styling, ever.

2nd: Ford
-Best common cars from the T to the f150, and everything inbetween.

3rd: Peterbilt
-Badass styling, superior reliability. Not much more to say.

4th: Cadillac
-Have you seen their late 50's early 60's cars?

5th: Buick
-No car was more beautiful in the 40's. Those f1 trucks were, but no cars, man.

6th: Indian
-Normally not a motorcycle guy, but if it's Indian, it's cool.

Then Chrysler, GMC, Oldsmobile, Studebaker, AMC, everything else I'm forgetting, and...


Fiat, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, British Leyland, International and alllll the chinese crap at the fucking bottom of the barrel, at the same level of shit.

>>15805057
Mazda at the very bottom. Especially Mazda.

I cannot understand why anyone with half a brain would think a miata is "cool." It's incomprehensible.

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>>15803320

favorites
> Suzuki
> Izusu
> Pontiac

shit list
> Jeep
> new Mitsubishi
> Ferarri

>>15804362
cheaper on gas and more reliable. thats why you want to drive a tampon on wheels. and you only think it's a tampon on wheels because you're actually insecure

>Best
1. BMW
2. Mazda
3. Honda

>Worst
1. Mitsubishi
2. Ford
3. Land Rover

Fav:
Nissan
Honda
Toyota

Disfav:
VW
Fiat-Chrysler
Hyundai

>>15805443
That's by company, not brand.

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>>15803320

Best:
Lexus
Ford
Mercedes-Benz


Worst
Volkswagen
Land Rover
Fiat

Why do so many people hate bmw
Is it some kind of meme

>>15805035
maybe you're using anecdotal evidence? I guess I should have expected that.

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>>15804649
>reliable BMW

>>15804260
Their styling is unimaginable and booking and over aggressive in same time. They are dull to drive and have dull interiors. My father has 12 workhorse Toyotas in his company. Mostly hiluxes and few land cruisers. I don't think of them as cars, more like utility vehicles. I'd never get one, and neither would lexus. No matter what o says lexus is just Toyota with leather interior and angry bumpers a d softer suspension. That's it. I can never think of it as a luxury car, only a nicer Toyota.

You'll notice I also have audi in my post. It's different here because top of the line audis share components with Lamborghini and Bentley without being to shouty or obnoxious.

>>15805808
Unimagining and booking. Thanks SwiftKey.

>>15805679
poorfags being poor

>>15804097
>Civic
Hahahahahahahaha

>truck engine
An S13/S14 will still be under 7k after swapping an SR or even RB in if you do it yourself.

>I'd rather own an 86
That'd make sense in Japan but I'm gonna go ahead and guess you live in America.

I've owned one and it cost relatively twice the price to own than an S13. They are popular in drifting for good reason. Practically anyone that actually drives irl and has ACTUALLY owned one will tell you the same, they're the best rwd budget cars for under 10k if you are going to do more than drive a little Miata around a track.

>>15804362
Have fun relying on puic transportation faggot cuck

>>15805679
All they make is expensive, ubreliable commuters.

>>15804296
They only made it for a few years and it is the only somewhat exciting thing they have made in forever for normal people. Put the Accord V6 or just a good I4 in another roadster. The TL-S and some of that stuff was close but then you drive them and they just feel like another appliance car.

>>15804669
>common knowledge
common knowledge is that the E46 and E39 are good, reliable cars. You're clueless

Best:
>Porsche
>BMW
>Mercedes
Worst
>Audi
>Opel
>Fiat

>>15805026
the E60 is a better car to daily drive
the E39 is dated

>Best
Honda
Toyota
Ford

>Worst
Audi
Chrysler
Chevrolet

>>15803320
Best
-BMW
-Honda
-Mazda

Worst
-Audi
-Benz
-Ferarri

>>15806072
good yes, very fun to drive. reliable? compared to what? other German cars? I know it's one of the most reliable BMWs but that isn't saying much.

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>Top
Lancia
Mercedes-Benz
Oldsmobile
>Runnerup
Citroen
Pontiac

>Runnerdown
Fiat
VW
>Flop
BMW
Chevrolet
Dodge

>>15803320
Who is this spunk monk

>>15806242
what do you consider reliable? only oil changes every 25k miles?

Best

>ferd (old fords are best for cold, 90s suck but new stuff is very good. Comfy too

>Mazda (good o'l trucks, their econoboxes are decent and cheap. I've actually had good experiences with their everyday cars too. Never driven a miata)

>Subaru
>inb4headgaskets
I've pulled my buddy's dually Chevy out of two snowbanks with a late 90's legacy twice. Rain, mud, gravel or snow doesn't stop my from going fast. Interiors are shit though,


Before you get mad, I live far north, AWD is an important factor in my decision making, hence subaru

>middle

Gm/Chevy
I would never buy new Chevy (or anything new for that matter)
I have a trusty old S10 that just won't die. Parts are so cheap, and their vehicles where very easy to work on
I'm driving a chevy safari van for work with 480,000 km on the original engine. Almost no maintenance is done at all and yet it survives over 300km/day
Their old pickups where cool. Muscle was gud back in the day. Nothing newer than 10 yrs.

Worst

VW (owned two. Both where absolute shit build quality. Only the 1994 model ran properly. But Constant issues with brakes)

>kia/Hyundai (mum and dad owned a Rio and optima. Both had many ECU and computer failures, optima overboosted and blew engine TWICE. Both where covered by warrant tho)

>fiat etc
I really shouldn't have to explain this one. Ram is shit brand. Jeep was good before they where bought.

>>15806274
Bella Hadid

>>15803721
Kek

Have you ever driven a car?

>>15806283
a reliable car has less known to fail parts to replace on average when following the maintenance schedule. including parts that will not leave you stranded if they break, ie interior and some electrical. not a hard concept to understand.

>>15806257
Lancia and Pontiac? I sense a real driver above the age of 16 here for once...

>>15806465
that's the exact description of an E39 or E46
Even if shit fails it wont leave you stranded unless a wheel falls off
You can drive a bmw with completely fucked suspension bearings and bushings, 20k mile old engine oil, low coolant pressure, low oil pressure, fucked vanoses, lambda probes, o2 sensors etc but the car will still be perfectly drivable
And I am speaking from experience

>>15806911
Congrats on being too broke to fix your car and own it for 500k miles because you bought a brand name outside your price range

>>15806916
nah, I bought a very, very cheap beater bmw e46 and I took it on a 1550 mile road trip after that. The car served its purpose well. Sold it, the current owner fixed it up and is enjoying a nice cheap bimmer now.

>>15806929
You really have no idea how ironic this post is do you?

>>15806911
you misread my post

Best cars
- Porsche
- Mercedes
- Honda
- Alfa Romeo

Good cars
- Fiat
- Lancia
- Citroen
- Peugeot
- Skoda

Bad cars
- anything american except old Mustang
- Renault
- Mazda

>>15807980
If you quit playing so many videogames you might be able to buy a real car someday.

>BEST
1. Mazda
2. Pontiac
3. Pre-2006 Jeep

>Worst
1. Anything FCA
2. VW
3. BMW

Best:
Subaru
Ford
Toyota

Worst:
Great Wall
Ssangyong
Chevy

>>15804385
Nah, they're actually really reliable as far as sports cars go.

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>Best

Mercedes-Benz
Lexus
Porsche

>Worst

Chevrolet
Dodge
Volkswagen

Best
Dodge
Ruger
Brazzers

Worst
KIA
Hyundai
BMW

Youre all faggots

>>15808090
>ruger
Ruger a shit

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>>15807995
Good thing I have one already.