Can someone redpill me on first gen Saturn Twin-Cams? I'm

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>>15585537
Just get a corolla moron.

>>15585537
Those things are getting a little long in the tooth. I don't think I would trust one unless I knew its maintenance history.

>>15585587
Haha what? Are you living in a different world? Fucking idiot

>>15585601
What? He's right. Most SL2s are thrashed.

Really fucking good econoboxes though.

>>15585601
Did I shit on the car? NO. Did I tell OP not to get it? NO. Did I meme about FWD? NO. So you can fuck yourself.

>>15585660
>>15585635

Fucking idiot spoiled brats who think everything older than 20 years old is just a broken down heap

>>15585668
OK I'll play a bit. Point out to me where in my post did I say that it was a broken down heap. In their day they were nice economy cars. I would just look for something a little newer. Old shit is nice If you know how to wrench on it, otherwise the worth of the car be eclipsed by repair bills if it need it.

>>15585702
Wow that's insane that you think that.
>get something newer!
as if that's an option, confirming you have no idea how the other half lives
>repair bills anon
Speaking like a normie who has no idea how dependable 90s cars are

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>>15585711
Dude you're just a colossal tryhard.

Nobody cares if you personally can wrench.

When I see Saturns they're usually beat to shit, especially the econobox ones. So no shit he's telling the OP to look elsewhere. You're like the dad trying to pitch his carbureted anemic smog era big block because "MUH CUBES. MUH RELIABILITY IN MY DAYYY"

Most Saturns are long overdue for the scrap heap. Sorry you have one sitting in your driveway still.

>>15585711
Ive got a 90 sitting outside in my driveway you dipstick. I know damn well how dependable that truck is because I have done all the work on it for the past 10 years. I'm not knocking older cars, hell I love late 80's fords for christ sake. But a 16 year old corolla can be bought for 2500-3k and probably less. Newer means typically less wear and tear and less miles.

>>15585747
>you should give up on being an enthusiast
No. I want the older car.

>>15585753
Ok fine buy one. Just don't be such a shithead

>>15585753
Wait so are you the OP ? Shit talking people for trying to redpill you???

>>15585668
Dude do you even look at who owns these cars now? It's all college students and low-income families who run 'em until they're burning more oil than fuel.

They're great cars, but there's no getting around the fact that they're 20+ years old and generally haven't had the best maintenance.

>>15585767
Ignore this dude:>>15585753

I'm the OP, i didnt mean to cause a shitshow. Thank you all for your opinions. Yeah, I was looking for a beginners car to wrench on since these were in the category of "old enough to be rare and unique, new enough to still have spare parts".

>>15585802
Look I know Corollas of the same vintage are 100x more reliable but I always liked the look of first-gen Saturns and want something with a little more personality. Thank you to the anon who defended old cars and thank you to the anon who reccomended a Corolla. Who knows, maybe I'll just get the best of both words and get a Prizm.

>>15585787
Confirmed for living in the mid west

>>15585802
I bought a corolla with the 1ZZ engine and have found it very easy to wrench on. I repaired an oil leak on the timing chain cover and was very happy with the amount of room to work and the simplicity of the engine. This comes from someone who used to wrench for a living and owns a F150 with a 300I6 ( One of the easiest engines to work on and keep running). But If the Saturn is in good shape and drives good pick it up those were great cars.

>>15585848
*worlds

Both of you had valid viewpoints. To clarify, I would drive it to school and work for an average of three miles a day.

>>15585867
Thanks man, Corollas are tanks. Is there any performance/reliability difference between trim levels? E100 Corollas are the beater of choice over here on the Northeast since they seem to resist the rust well or just have good parts. I reccomended one to a friend becuause of that.
I'm in no rush to buy a car at the moment but just wanted the opinion of /o/. Thanks man.

>>15585537
I had one, pure garbage. And that was years ago when it was still kinda new.

>>15585950
What about it was garbage? I heard they have the turning circle of a landbarge and burn oil.

>>15585928
Can't say about the E100 but I picked the 8th Gen(E110) because I didn't want to dick with a timing belt. In the 8th gen the drivetrain is all the same except 3speed non overdrive transmissions can be found on some CEs and Geos.

>>15585963
Burning oil is about the only thing Ive seen with them and if you manage that and fix any leaks is not any different from any other car.

I had one for a first car. was a 94 sl2 or w/e auto.
heat worked. crank windows, manual locks, no ac. literally no options.

I was 16 and walked to work for a month and then bought the saturn for $400. Was in 2010. It needed tires and brakes badly. I did the brakes with the cheapest parts from rock auto - like $10. Threw in some wal-mart oil with a $2 oil filter so it'd have a fresh change + at the time I was actually stoked on the car.

Drove it with the bad tires refilling them every week through the winter. Spent $50 on a set of used tires with like 70% tread halfway through winter.

a year into owning it my passenger rear window fell and shattered going over train tracks. I cut a piece of plywood to fit it and stuck it in and taped it up to seal it as best as I could.
Start of my senior year almost 2 years of owning it we got hail and it beat the crap outa the car and broke my windshield. I got one out of a car bein parted out on CL for $30, put it in myself. Leaked like a bitch id just keep filling all around leaks with epoxy until finally it never did more than drip on my dash.

I graduate HS. Move out of parents. Buddy and I moved to colorado where we are now (about 10 hours from home) and we drove the saturn all the way here. Went to a community college and delivered pizza for a job. Went into a ditch one day during a blizzard delivering. Literally had a pizza fly out of the box and smash my dash, cheese/sauce everywhere. To this day there's still hard dried sauce in little cracks in the interior or in the air vents where you cant really get a cloth to clean it. Busted the shit out of the front bumper. Lights and all still good though.

Eventually it started running on 3 cylinders. Checked all the usual culprits, plugs/wires/injectors/etc. Fuck it kept driving it.

Started overheating my last year of college. Found it was just burning through coolant at that point. Head gasket going bad. Burning white. Drained oil, was milky.
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>>15585990
I'll have to reasearch a bit on them. Corollas are great cars but I think I might go with the Saturn while there are still somewhat good examples still on the market. When I'll be in the market for a second, newer car (2022-2027) Saturns from that era will be next to non-existent. Corollas were designed with a longer life expectancy so I would be more likely to find a 25-30 year old Corolla than a 30-35 year old Saturn. Thanks for your input, Corollas are now on my radar.

>>15586066
buddy/roommate who i moved to colorado with worked at oreillys. He just started saving used oil jugs customer would bring in for disposal and I'd just dump it in the car and drain the oil every couple weeks to avoid too much water mixing with oil since at this point too i was just filling the rad with straight water.

I graduated, and about 3 weeks later was on the way home from an interview cruising at 50mph on 3 cylinders when suddenly it downshifted and felt like i hit a brick wall until it slowed down. Lost 3rd and 4th gears. did about 30mph until I was home in 2nd gear.

Trans fluid was burnt as fuck. Next day I got the job I applied for.

My little saturn, I feel like it was simply at a point where it said "I got him where he needed to go... it's time for me to leave..."

I tear up thinking about it.

I still drove it in 2nd gear 10 miles to my new job until I got my first paycheck which was $1150. I went and got my current dd with that money, my 98 toyota camry that is luxury to me with a/c, heat, cruise, power windows/locks with 190k.

The saturn still sits behind our house covered with a tarp and now storage to a bunch of fire works, wasp nests, and misc tools.

GF wants me to get rid of it but I just can't bare it but it's definitely not worth to ever bring to life again. Granted it'll still sputter along at 20-35mph in 2nd gear if I put a battery and gas in her.

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>>15586156
Thanks for sharing your experience man, I screencapped it along with a few other posts in this thread. If your GF ever forces you to get rid of the car, take off a piece as a memento whether it be the steering wheel/emblem/etc.