>manufacturer discontinues na engine for performance car A

>perf car A can now get massive gains from simple mods and a tune while maintaining better economy off boost

turbo is best

>>15479427
Less emissions

>>15479427
good point anon, not increasing performance every year is hardly progressive is it?

>>15479427
That is nothing. What is truly odd is
> car A is 1.6l with 150hp
> car A SPORT is 1.4l turbo with 160hp
FCA is fucking stupid or genious since people fall for this and buy this shit thinking it's sporty and SO FAST because it has a loud bof valve

>>15479443
>>15479522
Who gives a fuck about economy or emissions in a performance car

>>15479427

>Put a tune on the new generation of car
>Huge gains in hp with just a tune

>>15479576
Government regulations

God is this about the fucking genesis again

>>15479540
Im talking about a next gen turbo highest engine option versus a previous gen highest engine option was na. It is now turbo, but it is not faster.

>>15479610
Fuck regulations it's all smoke and mirrors to generate more tax money

>>15479443
>perf car A is no longer as much fun to drive as it used to be because of shit throttle response and tarbo lag, sounds worse too
>but hey at least you get 2 more mpg
>only on premium fuel though, you can't use regular anymore

>one generation later, manufacturer decides to give turbocharged perf car A electric steering, AWD, and make it automatic only and markets it as being the most advanced car on the market, and normies buy it in droves
/rant

>>15479630

>Perf car A is now much more tuner friendly
>Perf car A turns into performance monsters

Im sorry you don't know how to wrench

>>15479623
400hp/300tq vs 400hp/400tq

>>15479624
t.child

>>15479642
>reflashing ecus is "wrenching"
never go full normie

>>15479650
t.bicyclerider

>muh zero emissions

>>15479657

>Changing injectors
>getting larger turbo
>Installing meth kits
>Getting a tune

clearly you have never owned a Turbocharged car, which is why you prefer the N/a shit

>>15479644
Oy vey the goy knows i was talking about the bmw m335i errr i meant the m3

>>15479667
Yeah ditch your cats and stick it to the man!

>>15479668
>muh boost
what's the matter anon, can't you build a REAL engine?

>>15479576
People who understand that Enduro is the ultimate form of motorsport, and it doesn't matter how fast you go if you can't go that fast forever.

>>15479668
>shitposting in na thread

>>15479696

Its why all the fastest cars in the world got that boost.

Im sorry you can't handle it.

>>15479701

N/a fags butthurt that the company took there shitty car and made it better for normies and tuners.

>>15479705
>he thinks fitting a "meth kit" makes him an F1 grade engineer
enjoy playing at babby level my man

>>15479630
Literally Audi.

>>15479715
>e90 m3 v8 is worse car than 2015 bmw m335i er m3

Ok

>>15479725
audis were never fun

>>15479733
true though

In that case, the Mercedization of BMW?

>>15479705
>porsche 918

Godly 4.6 DOHC V8 that makes 600 hp on the engine alone.

>>15479738
and porsche
they seem to fuck something up every generation

>>15479742
>4.6 DOHC V8
that's just the natural ford mod motor power coming through

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>>15479728

>Put a tune on a 2015 m

Yes it is better from a tuning standpoint.

>>15479742

>uses electric motors to substitute for not being a turbo motor to keep up with the other hyper-cars

>>15479767
>implying all that electric bullshit doesnt merely pull the weight it adds

>>15479759
casual pls stfu about your "tuning"

>>15479781

>Call others casual
>Wants n/a engine because he doesn't know how to wrench.

Its ok that you want your vanilla engine normie

>>15479853
>turbobabby calling na fan casual

Shouldnt you be busy plugging an accessport to tune your literal shit energy scavenging engine? Oh wait, youre already done because modern turbo car tuning is babbified.

Not him btw

>>15479853
>wrenching

You mean plugging in your cobb

>>15479868

Shouldn't you be getting new headers and straight piping then claiming to get +50 hp

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>that guy that thinks hp and or torque are the only characteristics of an engine that matter

>>15479932
http://www.sikky.com/product/lexus-isf-headers/

Problem, babby? No need for claims

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>>15479443
>>15479596
>>15479642
>>15479644
>>15479668
>>15479705
>>15479715
>>15479759
>>15479853
>i-i swear guys, turbo is very best, just needs a little tune, t-that's all. stupid n/a idiots aren't real wrenchers like me, they don't even k-know how to tune! so what if I have a 1 second throttle response and my engine won't last more than 100k miles, i-i-i have more high end torque, after a tune that is. t-tunes are great guys.

>>15480060
While i always appreciate every (You) I must point out that I was merely pointing out that the turbo engine would make more torque, and nothing else.