Daily reminder that if a 5.0 made as much hp/liter as the F20C,

worst "I can do 9 year old level arithmetic" post ever

Daily Reminder that one is still in production

>>15176289
Saying that people like something isn't an argument for it's quality.

>>15176269
you can easily make 600 horses out of a coyote with some sick mawds

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>>15176269
>v8 mustangs lmao

daily reminder that if the f20c made any torque it would have been in a race car, something the 5.0 can claim.

>>15176312
its an argument for demand and dare I say desirability

>>15176405
>the f20c was not in a racecar

you are a dumb nigger

>>15176316
>sour grapes.txt

>>15176435
what real race series was it in?

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>>15176405
>Mustang is racecar

>>15176459
You have never seen a mustang racer anon?

Yes, I thought so.

>>15176455
it won its class in the VLN and the 24H of nurburgring and it raced in the Super Endurance in Japan

>>15176269
You can pull it off with mods and keep it NA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NZIOIhUiU

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>>15176441
cant be mad about boost

>>15176269
Daily reminder that my 5.0 makes 215 HP.

600 Hp is highly unreasonable, even for a Coyote.

>>15176602
>600 Hp is highly unreasonable, even for a Coyote.

see >>15176534

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torque

>>15176269
Daily reminder that if the F20C displaced as much as a Mustang it would make 600 horsepower.

>>15176607
Nice, but I feel like if you were going to do that you should have just bought a GT350....

>>15176534
OP here, nice.

>>15176611
> torque means i don't need to make more power

are you retarded?

F20C (and 4cyl 2 liters in general) make poor torque and the horses are only usable after 5000rpm

>>15176767
so what? it trades torque for rpm, nothing wrong with that, just a different use case.

> only usable after 5000rpm

So it has more than half a mustangs RPM range worth of powerband?

>>15176620
That flat plane engine is determined to disasemble the rest of the car around it. Once you go beyond a certain size, the flat plane is a detriment to any sort of longevity... too much vibration.

>>15176773
small displacement and high revving engines don't last long and have poor longevity, especially after tunes

>>15176269
daily remider: If grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa

>>15176806

Longevity has nothing to do with size or revs. Longevity is determined by the engineers that design the engines.

>>15176806
>i have never heard of motorcycles; the post

>>15176806
plenty of people are running F20/F22s with 200k+ miles

>>15176755
Torque is more comfy than the chinese turbocharged 2l lawn mowers that have to redline just to pull on a steeper driveway

>>15176536
Even when its slower than the previous gen v6?

Higher compression means higher wear rate.

Sure you can tune a V8 but at its cost of reliability. Eurocuck engines just don't have the same power/reliability that American or Japanese engines have

We need a janitor to clean up these bs threads

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>>15176836
thats because you are a fatso and need turbodiesel levels of torque to pull your fatass around

>>15176844
WTF ?

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>>15176841
>american engines
>power
>reliability

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>>15176855
leave nigger

>>15176844
Joke's on you, I'm Euro with a 316i... or maybe the joke is still on me.

>>15176855
>Z06 (Z07)
So what it is?

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>>15176860
meme'd on fag

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>>15176860
BTFO!!!

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>>15176872
>thinking you can out meme the meme king

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>>15176885
>meme king
Did somebody say Alphonse?

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>>15176316
>taped up intake

>>15176269
>turkey

mustang gt is $150k there

>>15176867
Z07 is a performance package on top of the Z06.

>/o/ taking the bait

Is this why everyone on the other boards say this place is the worst?

>>15177001
>this place is the worst?
I can name you three boards that are MUCH worse than this.
/x/ /tv/ /r9k/
pick your poison

>>15177001
>implying anyone on other boards says that
Guess I just took your bait.

>>15176840
but it isnt

>>15176907
where is the tape?

>>15177006

Nah, this place is like 90% shitposts and dumbfucks taking obvious bait like this thread.

Maybe it's just the summer nig-nogs.

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> make shit thread before going back to work
> come back 2 hours later
> 50 responses

>>15176428
The s2000 was still very succesfull. And I still see plenty people wanting a new s2000 like s2000

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>>15176806
fucking kekd. Yet the f20 is one of the most durable engines ever. The engine is probably one of the most masterpieced engines ever

>>15176269
If an ant was the size of a human, it could lift 4.5 tonnes over its head

>>15177093
thats not how it works

>>15176269
daily reminder: If I had a million dollars, I'd be a millionaire.

>>15176269
daily reminder: if OP killed himself, there'd be a lot less shitposting.

>>15176269
daily reminder: if the earth was flat, it would not be round.

>>15176841
explain how compression ratio affects wear pls

>>15176852
fat suit?

If the f20 had as much hp/L as an r1 it would have almost 400hp

>>15177105
>>15177150
>>15177162
daily reminder, your samefagging is obvious

>>15177197
nice

>>15177031
>maybe it's just the summer nig-nogs
I assure you, it isn't.

Hp/liter is the most ricer, obviously a fake enthusiast tier statement.

Daily reminder to literally ignore anyone who mentions that ratio as any form of argument if it merits a cars performance

>>15177287
and yet you responded to bait, and moved the thread back to the front page

>>15177287
>im mad my 8 liter v8 makes 180 hp

what we all read

>>15177197
Why doesn't anyone just engine swap hayabusa engine into a honda car?

>>15177006
You forgot /b/. That boards a sewer

>>15176907
are you that fucking retarded

>>15176459
The mustang has been racing for decades. So has Camaro. SCCA and more recently NASCAR nationwide series.

f20c may have more hp/liter, but the 5.0 has more liters.

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>>15176806
Do you actually have no idea about Honda engines?

>>15177287
Must be why Ford is chasing revs and hp/litre with the Voodoo engine

>>15178665
well of course an engine that makes 2hp is reliable.

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Daily reminder that a high HP/L ratio is the wrong way to go.

>>15176907
>can't tell if bait

>>15178682
bmw blow the fuck out
how will they ever recover

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>>15178673
How long until facelifted S550 with aluminum body and Voodoo engine?

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>>15178696
They won't.....

>>15178740
Why does the M3/4 even exist?

>>15177150
/thread

>>15177031
no you're right, this place as a whole is a piece of shit

>>15176269
HP/L doesn't scale accurately though. With bigger engines comes more internal friction and bigger pumping losses, while the available chemical energy applicable per displacement remains constant. A 50cc engine can make more hp/l than a 2 liter engine, which can make more hp/l than a 5L engine.

All that said, the Mustangs's stock 5.0 is lazy and understressed. 400hp is plenty for most people, but yes, it's not that efficient in terms of raw power output.

>>15176817
Longevity has a lot to do with size and engine rpm. Size and power can be too big for the internals to handle, and RPM has to be carefully selected as to not overwhelm the internals and valvetrain.

>>15177021
It is on the straight line.

>>15176817
>Longevity is determined by the beancounters
Internal component quality is harder to accomplish than it is to properly design an engine. T. Engineer

>>15178673
Chasing, but hardly succeeding. Power output of the Voodoo is still pathetic considering the development costs. The Modular design is holding it back.

>>15176819
cbr250rr disagrees
that said even 1300 cc bikes are not moving much and they don't see 20 k rpm

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WHOAH

IF the 2.7L Toyota 2TR-FE had the same displacement as an 8.1L Vortec, it would make 483 HP

Really makes you think...

>>15177621

it would run too loaded at all times and would fail sooner rather than later.

>>15180691
>if the 2.7L 2TR-FE had the displacement of the 1,820L Wärtsilä-Sulzer RTA96-C if would produce
107,852 HP

>>15180701
>>15177621
motorbikes are rarely over 300 kg
where as you could call a car light when it gets near 600 kg or less
and under 400 kg is getting bordrline cycle car

most of the cars you think of as light will be 700 to 900 kg
granted most of that mass is the engine but with a heavy engine comes the frame to support it

this burden overcome with reduction gearing before the gear box
but that does not change that the engine is having to operate at a higher rpm on average than an engine relying more on nominal air flow

>>15176602
What, your 5.0 From the 80s or early 90s? During the times when the EPA cucked everyone who wanted to make big power with emissions. New 5.0s are able to make 600 easily.

>>15180671
>100 hp/l is considered pathetic
Damn thing doesn't even have direct injection

>>15178665
How high do Hondas rev? Oh yeah, between its 2k-5k power band. Idiot.

>>15183494
what are you talking about?

>>15183494
NSX fuel cutoff was at like 9250 rpm and it had a very broad torque curve