>Cobalt SS is FWD >gets 0-60 in 5.7 seconds If you can't

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hell these did it in 5.3

a fwd family sedan

>only speed matters LMAO!
Nice bait. Fuck off.

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>>15142974
>m-muh drifting

A beat to shit srt-4 reved all the way to about 2500 in an intersection and then lifted letting off the blow off valve psssh a few nights ago and my mom just about had a breakdown because of it lol. Did the cobalt ss/tc torque steer as bad as the srt-4?

>>15142985
you can drift FF though

>>15142985
>Summer
The post

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>>15143018
only summerfags call anons summerfags

>>15143007
SRT-4s arent even that bad with torque steer what with their equal length shafts and shit

>>15143025
They also came with Quaife differentials from the factory tory

>>15142984
>only thing it shares with the Cavalier is the engine block

>>15143016
Fuck off Corey. Oversteer is not drifting. Drifting is sustainable and controllable.

>>15142974

>how do yurops run hillclimbs?
>what's an original Mini Cooper?
>who is Jean Ragnotti?

FF doesnt necessarily mean poor handling just like FR doesnt necessarily mean good handling.

TL;DR: Shut the fuck up, retard. Everyone who thinks like you is a retard as well.

It's not about what RWD can do that makes it better.
It's about what FWD can't do that makes it worse.

>>15143298

>it's about there being good cars and bad cars with either layout
>it's about FWD being great for some stuff and RWD being great for others

Brosifine, please fuck off.

>>15143314
There have been no mass produced FWD cars that take any good advantage of FWD quirks sold in the US in the past 30 years.
FWD a shit.

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>>15142947

>>15143381
Nice Opel

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>>15143370
This coming from the retard who said a BMW was cheaper to maintain than a Scion?

>>15142960
Except they didn't lol

>>15143387

Thank you!

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>>15142947
>no suicide doors
>no supercharger
looks like ur a fag m8

>>15143391
Except they did, Car and Driver clocked it at 5.3 in the 04-05 models

>>15143391
But they did, faggot.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/dodge-srt-4-short-take-road-test

>>15143401
>C&D times
People actually believe that tripe.

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>>15143397
OP posted a supercharged model. The Turbo model came with different wheels, and brembo front calipers standard.

>>15143406
Car and driver does 3-60 not 0-60 lol cling harder to a neon shit box

>>15143397
But Recaro's, ur a faget and you have both those

>>15143410
>this guy doesn't believe documented and published 0-60 times

Sorry you suck at driving, but that's correct

>rolling 5-60 now counts as a real 0-60 time
Garbage

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>>15143417
Stolen Recaros didn't have the supercharged redline model.

I am Recaros. It's a base model 2.2L N/A car.

>>15143281
Fuck off Corey

>>15143417
Recaros doesnt have a redline he just swapped recaros into a shitty ion. hes a fag

>>15143432
So does having the suicide doors make you bi?

>>15143431
>rolling 5-60 is slower than 0-60
Retard

>>15143422
>It's published! It must be accurate!
C&D Is notorious for reporting bad figures.
I bet you believe in the holohoax just because it's generally published where it fits your perspective.

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>>15143440
Was never bi. am gay.

>>15143441
Obviously it's not if publishers use 5-60 times in FWD

>>15143445
>The joke
>Your head

Don't be a stupid feget

>>15143370
Golf GTI

>>15143397
Supercharged Cobalt SS is slower 0-60 than non Supercharged

Looks like you're a cuck straight outta luck

>>15143468
wtf are you smoking? The supercharged Cobalt SS did 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. N/A 2.2L Cobalts did it in 8.0 seconds. 2.4L SS N/A's (06-07 only. People bitched about there not being an automatic SS) did it around 7.2 seconds.

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>>15143481
here, cuckboy

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>>15143494
2008-2010 Cobalt SS's were all turbocharged you fucking moron.
The SS Supercharged made 205 HP. The SS Turbo made 260

>>15143370
See:
>>15143389

Again, brosifine, pls go.

>>15143516
"Non supercharged" isn't mutually exclusive with "turbocharged"

Fuck off niggerbreath

>>15143531
non-supercharged also refers to the normal 2.2L cars.
And guess what. They did make a naturally aspirated SS in 2006-2007. It had a 170 HP 2.4L. And it's the slowest Cobalt SS

>>15143539
>tell anon "non-supercharged" (meaning could be N/A or Turbo) is faster than supercharged (faster implies Turbo because N/A is typically slower)
>you get upset because you assume non-supercharged = N/A
>show you why you were mistaken
There's really nothing more to say here

>>15142947
>>15142960
why would anyone want these ugly shitboxes

>>15143558
faster than your honda civic

>>15143558
cheap and quick

>>15142947
>tfw faster in my hopped up AWD grocery getter

2WD cucks literally cannot compete.

>>15144068
You better be driving an Evo

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>>15142947
Well my fr could heat it starting in 2nd gear. Fwd isn't a shit drivetrain but the based SRT 4 is a better car than the SS cobalt
Pic related my fr

>buying a car that costs more than 2K that isn't a fucking Testarossa
Literally fools parting with their money.

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>>15142947

FWD an inherently bad drivetrain.

>>15144138
ebin, simply ebin

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>>15144128
>but the based SRT 4 is a better car than the SS cobalt
lap times say otherwise.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eventcoverage/130_0511_timeattack/

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>>15144068
>>15144074
It wouldn't matter. Cobalt is faster than an Evo.

>>15144199
>>15144193
Goddamn is there NOTHING that can beat a tarbo'd Cobalt SS within a similar price range? The thing is literally 3fast5u: the car

>>15144199
>stock Evo

No such thing, m8. They magically void the drivetrain warranty upon leaving the dealer lot.

>>15144224
That first one isn't even a turbocharged car. It's a supercharged Cobalt.

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>>15144224
>is there NOTHING that can beat a tarbo'd Cobalt SS within a similar price range?
Not really. Cobalt SS kinda owns everything in its price range.
The closest thing would be a 2003-2011 Saab 9-3. Same basic engine, a little heavier, but a better chassis with IRS

>>15144224
nope. perfect car for beating ricers on a budget.

>>15144224
If you dump the same amount into something like an Evo or STi as you did a Cobalt SS it'd be overtaken, but those cost far more to begin with.

It's the king of hopped-up affordable econoboxes.

>>15144193
A full race spec car should pull good lap times.
The shitboxes I fox everywhere have about 3 bolts in common with that car.
I work on chevorlets for a living.
There's a reason I drive a ford

>>15144494
>There's a reason I drive a ford
you enjoy walking to work.

>>15144224

dodge srt4 neon?

>>15144576
see:
>>15144193

>>15142947

Reminder that a current-gen V6 camry can do it in 5.6

>>15144585

those are all extremely modified cars with different budget restraints and different drivers though

>>15144610
GM Performance Division and Chrysler's SRT division were in the same class competing under the same rules. Your argument is invalid.

>>15143494
Holy shit it does high 13s stock?

Why the fuck didnt GM keep making this engine?

Where the fuck is the sports compact now?

Amazing.

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>>15143389
Lmao

>>15144647
>(as usual)
Fucking Katie

>>15144631
High 13s is standard for a high strung turbo 4 fwd car. Dodge was doing this in 2004

>>15144628

My argument isn't invalid until you can find out how much each team spent.

And even if they spent the same amount, they have different drivers.

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>>15144631
>Why the fuck didnt GM keep making this engine?
They do. They still make variants of that engine. You'll find the engine in the:
Buick Verano Turbo
Buick Regal Turbo
Buick Regal GS
Opel Insignia
Opel Astra OPC
Chevrolet Malibu Turbo
2016+ Chevrolet Camaro Turbo
Fisker Karma (as an onboard generator)

>Where the fuck is the sports compact now?
GM has tried to push the Chevrolet Sonic as their go-to sport compact for a while with their successful SCCA B-Spec racing program (pic related). rumors have an upcoming Sonic SS using the 200 HP 1.6L Turbo of the new Buick Cascada convertible.

>>15144647
Choco bar = $1.05
Gum Drop = $.05

but what about sales tax, was that included in the price?

also, someone needs to tell Katie that if she keeps eating so much candy then her teeth will rot out, she'll get fat, contract diabetes, and slowly have body parts cut off of her piece by piece

>>15144675
I really hope thats true then.

The Fiesta ST is so good, we need more cars like that. Seems like GM knows how to make small turbo cars.

>>15143587
These are cheap and quick to
https://www.autolist.com/listings/6G2VX12U45L426889
If you can get past the looks

>>15144715
>almost $18k for an 11 yr old Pontiac

Jesus Christ, that's a new level of Jewry I haven't seen before.

>>15142947
I don't think you understand any of this.

That car would be even better if it was RWD, thats all there is to it.

>>15144777
Huh, nevermind I looked up some in my area and that price doesn't seem too bad for a vehicle with under 60k miles....

How much did those things cost brand new?

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>>15144690
We'll have to wait and see. The Buick Cascada, so far, is the only car in America using GM's all new 1.6L Turbo.

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>>15144631
>>15144675

Did the LSJ come from GM here in the states or Opel in Europe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXYsmUYka4

>>15144864
Bit of both. The Ecotec was designed with global input from every single division.
The first division to use the 2.2L L61 Ecotec was Saturn.
The next variant of the Ecotec to come out was the LK9, in the 2003 Saab 9-3 sedan. The LSJ is literally an LK9 but with the turbo setup replaced with an intercooled supercharger setup. The LSJ was only used in the Saturn Ion Redline, Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged, and the American market Ariel Atom.
The LK9 share everything except the exhaust manifold, intake manifold, and choice of forced induction. Block, head, pistons, crank, connecting rods, etc are all identical.

The LK9 is seen here:
>>15144266


The SS Turbo uses an LNF, which has a different head, pistons, fuel system (because direct injection), and connecting rods.

All GM's current 2.0L turbos are variants of the LNF varying little.

>>15144811
Almost 40k loaded

>>15144922
Why did they hold their value so well then? There are '04 - '06 models near me with over 100k miles on them that are listed for over $16k. I can buy a nice BMW Z4 of the same age with under 100k miles on it for less than that.

>>15144224

04-06 Pontiac GTO
Easy

>>15142947
4.8 seconds

german awd v8 power. guess what car i have and you win

>>15144990

tfw the pride and joy of Germany can barely beat a nigger rigged FWD grocery getter... How do you guys deal with that?

At least you guys don't have it as bad as the UK where this based GM Godmachine beats even their "supercars".

>>15145011
triggered

>>15142947
It's still a Cobalt. Shit build quality.

>>15142960
Neons were even worst. They all rusted to shit after five years.

>>15145020
>It's still a Cobalt. Shit build quality.
Do I detect European butthurt?

>>15145020
>all rusted to shit in 5 years
Maybe in your shitty rust belt area, up until last November my gf was driving a 2000 Neon base model with zero rust and I don't live out west/southwest

Shit is still a cobalt / neon /other shitty econobox

>guy I know
>white trash
>has 5 kids
>has mediocre paying job
>throws $30,000 into a BASEMODEL neon to make it a "srt-4 clone"
>everyone laughs at his car


anyways janitors should get a better car than a cavalier / cobalt

>>15144715
I can buy and build a much better Cobalt or Neon for less

and honestly Id rather have either one than that bland shit

>>15144715
The only people I've ever seen driving a GTO were niggers.

>>15144687
So smart

>>15145086
Wat

>>15145117
I'm talking about the 4th gen, '04-'06 models, I've only ever seen niggers driving them.

>>15145133
I repeat


wat

>>15145145
What part of that is confusing you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyW4aHLGvEU

>>15145154
Because where I'm from, niggas ain't riding no GTOs, maybe big body GMs and Panthers, few Camaros, but no GTOs

>>15143370
ethan, pls go

>>15142947
too bad it is a piece of shit

remember, cobalt a fucking shit

>>15145467
also, friendly reminder the ecotec makes SHIT-TIER power on fucking high boost pressure numbers compared to mitsubishi and honda 4 cyl engines

ecotec a shitty shit aswell

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>>15145475
reminder the ecotec make fantastic power.
Pic related. 1400 HP 2.0L from GM's drag race program
1/4 mile in 7.3 seconds at over 200 MPH.

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>>15147321
And yes. It's still FWD

>>15145475
wut? I've never heard of anyone in my life saying the Ecotec makes shit power. GM might make crappy cars but they sure know how to make performance engines.

>>15144864
the l850, base engine for the LSJ, was mostly designed by opel and saab with gm corporate saying "don't spend too much money and make sure you can put this into everything"

>>15145475
Eco tech got used or is still used in Super Sevens and other kit cars.

They are good engines

my bike gets to 60mph in under 5 seconds and it is in just about the slowest class of bikes on the market.

Why do you fags buy shit cars if you want to go fast?
Accept that you are poor and get a bike.

>>15144988
not in the same price range.

>>15147434
>Accept that you are poor
>rides a bike

okay.

>>15147448
bikes are cheaper than cars uleh, name a car that will do 0-60 in under 3 seconds for under $5000, i could name literally hundreds of bikes.

>>15147472
We get it. You're poor and an organ donor.

Thanks for the new liver btw.

>>15147490
Why would i be an organ donor?
There are too many people on this planet, me dying does not mean 6 other people should stay alive, if anything at least 6 people need to be coming with me.

>>15147514
Fuck off squid

>>15147520
Whats wrong you have sand in your vagina?

>>15147527
Nah m8, just disdain for some fuckwit on a bike that thinks he's hot shit, get fucked cunt

>>15147533
Sounds like someone is envious of someone elses ability to ride a bike without being a little bitch, whats it like to be a bitch?

>>15147555
Wouldn't know, ask your dad

>>15147560
my dad could beat up your dad in a fight m8

>>15147567
Yer dad's a shitcunt m8, it's obvious in that he made little shitcunts, specifically you

>>15147576
Big talk coming from someone named barrys dried up old jizz sock

>>15147520
>>15147527
>>15147533
>>15147555
>>15147560
>>15147567
>>15147576
>>15147579
Boys, boys, take it easy

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>>15147448
>>15147472
>>15147490
>>15147514
>>15147520
>>15147527
>>15147533
>>15147555
>>15147560
>>15147567
>>15147576
>>15147579
Now kiss.

>>15147602
get a load of this poo jabber

>>15147602
>GMC
>Gay Men Coitus

>>15147602
>GMC

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>>15144665
This is why benchracing doesn't work. Different drivers, moronic comparisons (stock base model versus heavily modded top trim), and busriders omitting tracks that reflect poorly on their championed shitbox of choice.

>>15143370
Gtfo Ethan

>>15142947
Dude, you can put a big engine in anything. The cobalt would be even better in RWD, that's why FWD is an inherently bad setup.

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>>15147602
Cum in my mouth and call me a faggot. That's hot.

>>15143389
Jesus. BMW is more reliable than poorfags in mustangs claim, but the parts are absolutely not cheaper, especially if you buy newer.

>>15150452
>2.0L
>big
wut

>>15145145
In my town I only ever see black people in muscle cars, one of the main reasons I decided not to get a charger or challenger.

>>15147434
Uhm

Bikes are the cheap option for going fast bud

>>15150511
Sorry *turbo

I'm speaking in general, 0-60 does not make a car, in fact if you're Dodge or Nissan it'll probably ruin your car.

>>15142947
>5.7 seconds

Lol holy shit that's slow OP, step up your fucking game

>>15150584
You're right, the subway is faster

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>>15143397
>driving the shittiest tier brand of shit tier gm

top kek

>>15147434
never had to go to the hospital. i dont know anyone with a motorcycle who eventually hasnt. I know i'd be addicted if i got one but its just not worth the safety risk for me

>>15143579
which is funny considering that the honda civic is naturally aspirated and those two are supercharged/turbocharged. If anything, you'd think they'd be a lot faster then say a civic si from the same year, but in reality they're barely a second faster in 1/4 which is a little pathetic.

>>15150786
huehueheuhue
>yfw its my 3rd Saturn

>>15150857
>barely a second faster
you expect a hopped up econo box running stock low 13s?

>>15150876
yeah, I'd think they'd be a able to achieve better volumetric efficiency. It's a quick car, but I don't see why it can't be quicker. maybe they don't want it stepping on the toes of other models. at any rate, i've seen turbo'd 8th gens with stock engines run mid 12's in street trim/pump gas, so i see no reason why cars of the same size already coming with a 2 liter turbo aren't running low 13's.

>>15142947
>implying drivetrain is the largest factor in determining speed

jesus christ when will this cobalt meme die

>>15150917
>>15150876
The turbo cars do a 13.8 1/4 mile.

I've seen stock supercharged cars do 14.2.

>>15150619
Kek my car ran closer to 4.5 bone stock

Kys fwd cuck

My 07 Monte SS got 5.3, doesn't mean it was a fun car to drive.

>>15150977
>meh bleh bleh rens bleh bleh

You're dad's car doesn't count,faget

>>15150989
Speaking of parents, you might need to climb back up in your moms cunt to develop for a little bit longer so you can make intelligent decisions down the line and stop buying shitty cobalts

:^)

>>15151014
>implying I own a slowbalt
ASSMAD NISSAN FANGIRLS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>15151029
>implying I would buy anything Nissan since they ditched the RBs

But I like you fampai, 11/10 troll keep it classy

>>15144193
>lap times say otherwise.
I'll believe this gay shit when there's an SS/SRT spec racing circuit and one of them consistently outpaces the other

until then you and people like you are in the big giant faggot club