>you take a turn a little quicker than normal >very slight

Women are terrified of rev matching, too, it's hilarious. I've never seen someone so terrified whilst slowing from ~70 to full stop.

>hit 4k rpm in 2nd gear in my shitbox
>w00o0o0o0o0o0o0oo00 you drive like a maniac this is amazing!!!!!

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>>15022885
My passenger seat has not gotten any action

idk bout you guys but my gf enjoys when I corner hard

americans (normiefags) are fucking pussies

HURRDURR TERRORIST! QUIT SPEEDING LIKE SOMEONE THAT DISOBEYS THE LAW! I'LL START FOLLOWING YOU AND THEN THREATEN YOU WITH MY 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT! TERRORIST!

>get to 3K because have to turn in a few feet after intersection and don't want to shift into third
>"OMG ANON STOP GUNNING IT"

and americans are borderline retarded, forgot to mention that

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>take an off-ramp at speed
>"hey slow down Mario Andretti!"
>mfw there's a van in front of me going faster down the off-ramp

>>15022885
Women want to ride in a quiet appliance. Any engine, exhaust or tire noise irritates the fuck out of them. They're dumb cunts and drive too fucking slow off the line.

>>15022885
>letting your woman talk in the car
top lel

>>15022909
Flyover states: not even once.

>>15022935
>implying anyone remembers who Mario was

I'm going to sound like a huge fag but the other day it was raining and I was driving my grandma around for her errands, and she kept bitching because my tires would spin almost everytime I left a spot (v8 and dirt cheap tires). Finally got frustrated after 90 minutes of continuous bitching, pulled the out the joint I keep in my visor, lit her up and drove crazy as fuck back to her house. She said she'll never get in my car again, which sucks for her because I'm the only person she knows that will drive her around all day just for gas money

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>>15022949
His Hudson was in Gran Turismo 6.

>>15022909
people in the midwest are chill as fuck, it's the rednecks in the south that get all riled up because you distracted them from focusing on taking a clean hit from their meth pipe while driving

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> v8 truck
> dad in passenger seat
> shitty 4 speed automatic
> push foot in to accelerate up a hill
> suddenly engine goes from 2000 to 3000 rpms
> 35 mph to 45
> dad "why you asking for so much power, you making the engine work hard"

.............pic related
>

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Shit, all the women that have ridden with me have enjoyed when I hoon it a little. I don't know what you all are doing wrong.

>>15022941
>they drive too slow off the line
Anyone else have the opposite experience? Women have no concept of gradually building up/shedding speed, everythings an on and off switch for them.

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>>15022916
>mfw my car sits at 3k when traveling at 100km/h
>regularly take it up to 5k because it's a shit box and it's fun to thrash them.

>>15023215
Can confirm

I daily drive a V6 Genesis coupe and you wouldn't believe the amount of times I've had to punch it to avoid some cunt cutting me off a merging lane off of a light. I've seen them in Corollas taking off with a lead foot

>>15023007
This. The qts and not-so-qts that have ridden with me dont really complain when i do questionable things in my shitbox. Over 3k rpm to them is exciting. And whenever my ex rode pillion on my 600 she loved it when i downshifted and pulled hard on the freeway

"It's OK bitch, my car has a 5 star crash test safety rating."

>>15022916
>3k
>gunning it
Wow. Either they are literally retarded, or you have a really loud exhaust. My shitbox is pretty quiet even at 4k

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>>15022895
>slowing down to turn
>rev match down shift
>>easy there speed racer
mfw

>>15023229
That sucks I'm at 3k at 85mph and its a 4 cylinder with a 4 speed automatic

>>15023215
>Women have no concept of gradually building up/shedding speed, everythings an on and off switch for them.
this.

Women gun it from a light to the speed limit and then brake hard as fuck 20 feet away from the next intersection.

>>15023276
My stock wrx is loud enough at 3K to trigger red-light racers. I'm just trying to get up to speed damn it.

>>15022895
Why would you rev your fucking engine to stop? lol It's was for slowing down to corner back in the ancient times.

>>15023526
To shift down smoother? Why would I slow down from 70mph in 6th gear the whole time ? Do you not drive a manual or something?

>>15023526
engine braking is still useful, cuck

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>driving my civic in the snow
>kick the clutch to spin the tires because hoon
>gf screams
>ANON YOU'RE GOING TO FISHTAIL!!!!!!11

I had to explain why a FWD car would just pull itself in a straight line in that situation instead of spinning wildly out of control. I'm still not sure she actually got it, though.

>>15023547
Put it in neutral fag. But if your OCD compels you so badly, just down shift at the appropriate speeds. But that would funny as fuck you playing mumbly peg with the shifter to cycle thru all 6 gears in 1 second.

>be me
>gf is hardy Nordic woman
>launch at green lights
>screech around turns
>no reaction whatsoever

>>15023548
If you were rev matching, you wouldn't get any engine braking though.

>>15023596
I don't think you know what engine braking is

>>15023547
>Why would i wear out just my brakes when I can wear out my clutch, my synchros, and my brakes all at the same time

>>15023605
I don't think you know what rev matching is.

>>15023608
This is some stupid logic. If you're afraid to downshift then you shouldn't be upshifting faggot.

>>15023608
Lmao you wear nothing out if you learn how to drive manual you fag.

>>15023616
Is this truly the state of /o/ in 2016?

Engine braking is NOT the stupid lurch you get when you fail to match the engine speed to the transmission.

>>15023622
No you benchracer. He is right

Engine braking fucks up several parts of the engine. It exists, but it must not be used constantly. You can either slightly use your fucking brakes or you can engine-brake, slightly fuck up your tranny and flywheel, SERIOUSLY big chance of blowing the engine if you engine brake at too many RPM, increased engine wear anyways, and increased fuel consumption.


Be fucking smart. When you are going to stop leave it at neutral and slightly use the brakes until you stop.

If I was girl I would be horrified at some guy braking to a stop from 70mph and pumping his foot frantically and moving the stick shift in a panic. It's not like it takes longer than 3 seconds to brake to a stop from 70mph.

>dame in the left seat

Britbong please

>>15023635
Engine braking with a good revmatch does nothing bad to the transmission, clutch, or flywheel

>>15023641
>3 seconds to go 70 to 0

try this some time, it's an unreasonably short time

>>15023635
You sound like an idiot that should stay away from manuals

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>>15023635
This gave me a good laugh. Fuckin millennials man.
>SERIOUSLY big chance of blowing the engine if you engine brake
HAHAHA

>>15023653
No it's not. Count: One thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand 3. You can do it without skidding. But hey, add another second for or 2 if you like, you're still looking like a wild spaz in the drivers seat.

>>15023664
Yeah he said "at too many RPM" though

It is true that this can over-rev the engine
Try going from 5th to 2nd some time, something will explode

>>15023670
I usually start downshifting over ten seconds before the stop, I anticipate as much as possible, just a habit. Would never think of making a three-second or even five-second stop unless I was going 35mph or something

>>15023653
Engine braking is the opposite of rev match, idiot.

The entire principle of engine braking is that the engine will be working slower than the input shaft and that once you drop the clutch the tranny will force the engine to rev up, but the engine ECU will force the engine not to exceed speed.

Rev match is changing gears WITHOUT leaving space in revs between the input shaft and the crank.

Opposite things. Either way, unless you are about to speed up after braking, down-shift-rev-matching (or heel-toeing) its useless and only wastes fuel.

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>>15023654
>mfw everything i ever drove in my life were manuels

>>15023664
>forcing the engine to operate at redline/above redline RPM
>"its safe for the engine guys! I promise!"

>>15023682
>but the engine ECU will force the engine not to exceed speed

6/10 you got me to reply twice

>>15022885
>driving diesel with family
>at light
>give it more gas than you would with a car because its a diesel and 4 fucking tons
>whoa there anon, you should be more careful
then later I gunned it, got some boost going and zoomed past this guy.
they all screamed. feels good man.

>>15023678
WTF? How shitty are your brakes? Sounds like you drive like an old woman. 10 fucking seconds!
Hahahahhhaahahahahhha

>>15023626
Using = putting stress on = wearing out. If you're shifting at all, you are slipping the clutch ever so slightly and there are small differences in actual and ideal speed that put wear on the synchros. Is it that hard to understand, that using a part puts wear on it?

Brakes are cheaper/easier to replace than clutches, so I'd rather wear the brakes more than the clutch

>>15023676
If your engine and fuel are absolute shit the extra tiny bit o compression might cause detonation but I don't fucking know, I'm not worried about the engine. It's designed to deal with bringing itself down from 5k to 2k if you let off the throttle. The engine isn't a sacrificial device.

>>15023682
Engine braking follows the rev match.

>>15023608
>>15023579
>numblypeg
If I'm going 70 and slowing down to 0, I shift down in case some stupid shit happens and I need to accelerate again quickly without fatiguing my engine. I only go 6-5-4-neutral.

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>>15023693
My brakes are awesome, I upgraded the rotors and calipers actually

>>15023689
>engine braking redlines the engine

What the fuck kind of braking are you doing son?

>>15023689
Clearly you never learned how to drive a manual beyond upshifting like the pleb faggot you are. Anyone can do something for years and still be shitty at it, I.e. you

>>15023698
5th gear to 2nd gear, at high speed

so the engine would be forced to several thousand RPM over redline
this will blow a rod and/or cause the valves to float
RIP engine

>>15023698
>Engine braking follows the rev match.
Read my entire post again. Seems you dont understand that engine braking means forcing the car to brake using the engine.

>>15023690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline#Rev_limiter_and_implementation

>>15023706
>What the fuck kind of braking are you doing son?
None because i dont want the engine to die.

Engine braking is forcing to have mismatched crank rpm to input shaft rpm to force the car to be stopped by the ECU controlling the rev limiter of the car.

Literally any driving instructor teaches you to always be in a gear. If you don't understand this simple reason why you should be in gear maybe you shouldn't drive a manual

>>15023682
Wew lad you should just stop posting. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You can definitely rev match down a gear and still engine brake.

>>15023676
Well obviously if you go from 5th to second you're gonna fuck your shit up. This would be called improper engine braking.

>everybody talking about engine braking
>instantly think about jake brakes since dieselfag
>realize i'm retarded

>>15023714
You don't know what engine braking is.

If you're downshifting past redline, you're doing it wrong. Nobody does that. Also if your foot is off the gas rev limiter does nothing.

>>15023635
Oh my god I think this guy is actually retarded

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>>15023721
>Engine braking is forcing to have mismatched crank rpm to input shaft rpm to force the car to be stopped by the ECU controlling the rev limiter of the car.

>>15023721
I'm going to cap this. You should trip up.

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These fucking threads are always hilarious. All the 14 years olds who have never driven manual telling everyone who has that they don't know how to drive manuals.

>>15023725
>You can definitely rev match down a gear and still engine brake.
And you can drift with a bicycle too, anon.

>>15023723
>Literally any driving instructor teaches you to always be in a gear.
In racing? sure
In the street? fuel waste.

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>>15023721

>>15023740
>in gear with throttle off
>fuel waste

anon...

>>15023727
>If you're downshifting past redline, you're doing it wrong
wat

Engine braking IS about having the engine in the redline
>>15023728
That's what your mom said to you?

>>15023740
Like I said you shouldn't be driving manual then.

>>15023714
Engine braking means you use the compression stroke to lose speed, slowly. Not torquing the fuck out of your drive train.

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>>15023740

>>15023746
>>in gear with throttle off
>rev matching while down shifting
>throttle off
Pick one.

>>15023721
You're fucking stupid

>>15023699
Just put it back in gear if you need to accelerate. It's not fucking hard. It's not a talent. It's not a science. It's not magic. It requires no skill at all.

>>15023757
You use less fuel kicking the engine up a couple thousand RPMs than you would idling it in neutral

>>15023761
I meant emergency situations m8.

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>>15023748
>Engine braking IS about having the engine in the redline

>>15023740
So lets say you're in 4th gear at 4k rpm engine braking, and then you rev it up to 5k rpm and drop it into 3rd. There ya go, you just drifted a bicycle.
Please for the love of /o/ never drive a manual again.

>>15023762
>stupidity is immortalized

>>15023723
Literally NO driving instructors teach this.

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>>15023768
>You use less fuel kicking the engine up a couple thousand RPMs than you would idling it in neutral

>>15023769
So. Put it BACK IN GEAR IN AN EMERGENCY then.

This whole thread is a good reminder on how no one here has any idea what they're talking about

>>15023698
>This cuck can't even change a clutch

>>15023777
You WILL fail if you do not down shift rowing through the gears. Pleb. You always have to be in gear, you sound like a new fag

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>When you nail the perfect rev match downshift and use extreme redline engine braking due to the input and outputshaft speeds approaching C

nvm, i thought that you all meant engine-braking in the extreme
(like going from 6th at 3k RPM to 1th)

I forgot engine braking was still something that happens without touching the redline, but its still the opposite of rev matching, see if some people understand

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>>15023787
You have to be truly Australian to not know the difference in time and money between brake jobs and clutch replacement.
>If you do it yourself it's free and only takes seconds!

>>15023796
>engine braking is the opposite of rev matching

NO

TRY AGAIN

At first I thought he was baiting, but now I just think he's Russian.

FAS is a hell of a drug

>>15023789
No, YOU WILL fail. The rest of us without Parkinson's disease will be fine.

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in case anybody wasn't clear

>>15023801
>because I like to unsettle my car in a corner

>>15023796
Do you know what rev matching is????? Rev matching is when you push the clutch in, rev up the engine and dump the clutch making a downshift smooth. Rev matching is a crucial step to engine braking correctly.

>>15023811
Always rev-match in the corners
this doesn't prevent you from engine braking
engine braking is the reduction in speed AFTER you rev match
NOT dumping the clutch and lurching the car with the revs mismatched

>>15023801
I was wrong when i thought that engine braking only meant forcing the engine to the redline, but the two principles are fucking opposite.

Rev matching: When you drop the clutch the car wont even shake, RPM gauge will never jump

Engine braking: Your car will shake, RPM gauge goes up because you downshifted, car will brake slightly (that's what produced the shake)

You dont need an PHD in physics to know the difference.

>>15023812
It has nothing to do with engine braking. In fact, a perfect rev match would cause no braking effect at all...which is why it's done in the first place.
Stupid fags.

>>15023807
You're an idiot if you take the test in manual and you coast into neutral and stop that is an automatic fail lol. I can tell you ride the bus.

>>15023820
>>15023818
are you people real

>>15023812
>Rev matching is when you push the clutch in, rev up the engine and dump the clutch making a downshift smooth.
Rev matching is when the input shaft and crankshaft are spinning at the same RPM and dropping the clutch is smoth and without shake.


Engine braking is when the crank runs slower than the input shaft, and dropping the clutch forces the car to brake a little

If you mean downshifting while rev matching, that's not engine braking

>>15023821
It is not. Stop trying to look like a 13 year old genius. It makes you look ignorant.

>>15023820
Are you incapable of understanding concepts? That's a sign of autism

>>15023823
Have you ever driven a manual car?

Go at X gear, hold the clutch in until the revs go to idle, go at a lower gear, drop the clutch, and tell me if your car slows down

Braking by downshifting without rev matching and scrubbing your clutch material off is not engine braking, that's clutch braking. You should aspire to avoid this.

>>15023815
>rev-match in the corners

nigga, what? you obviously drive some slow shitbox and are retarded

>down-shifting in a corner

you should be entering the corner at the proper speed and gear. not changing gears during the corner

if you have to down shift you've already missed the whole thing entirely.


engine braking is not a performance driving technique, its more like fuel-saving economy driving. if you're engine braking then you're not accelerating or decelerating to your maximum extent

however that said powerful RWD cars will oversteer from engine braking.

>>15023831
yes anon, but...words

what you're trying to talk about is clutch braking, which is always bad

>>15023820
>>15023820
You really don't know what you're talking about. So if I perfectly rev match to 6k rpms my car isn't going to start engine braking? Is this seriously what you're saying?

>>15023826
Just stop kid.

>>15023836
I wouldn't personally downshift in a corner if I could avoid it, but I was replying to some idiot who brought up a bad hypothetical because he thinks clutch braking is engine braking

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>>15023829
Is that what the doctor told you?

>>15023828
http://www.proshift.ca/popups/road_test_guidelines.html

Idiot

>>15023837
Oh.... Well that explains this misunderstanding.

>>15023835
>not double clutching

>>15023845
Leave it to Canada to fail you for using the transmission the way it was designed to be used. But, it should be noted that those are what some guy posted on the internet, and not the actual rules.

>>15023857
Double clutching just means you do your blip in neutral instead of with the clutch in. You still have to blip. It was necessary on old race cars with no synchros but its irrelevant today.

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>>15022885
>going 35 at high rpm when speed limit is 45
>WHY ARE YOU GOING SO FAST ANON
wewlad

>>15023863
>doesn't know how to drive manual properly
girlslaughing.jpg

>>15023845
>No high revving
>No gear skipping
>Don't shift whole cornering
Brilliant.
>While sitting at a red light, stay in 1st gear with the clutch down.
My sides.
>I therefore urge you to revert back to correct driving practices after the test.

Now I finally see why the US never annexed canada

>>15023841
i have no idea what these retards are on about

>rev match downshift
>let off throttle
>car starts to engine brake

period. idiots.
if you're gud you're also braking while down-shifting through the gears to maximize braking effect and preparing yourself for the entry of the corner

>>15023875
You stay in gear because that is the proper way to drive a manual car. Just because you drive like a nigger learning to drive stick for the first time doesn't excuse you're a shit driver

>neutral is my safety zone I'm too shitty to down shift the engine will explode!!

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>>15023748
>engine braking when you know it puts you in the redline
>how do you want your ishiggydiggy, anon?
>just fuck my engine up, famiglia.
It's like you don't know where your rpm will sit when you downshift.

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>>15023877
Fucking this x1000 thank you. I have been doing this everyday for the past 4 years on my current car with no problems whatsoever.

>>15023877
It's starts coasting fucktard, not engine braking.

>>15023897
>he's still at it

>>15023897
Coasting is rolling in neutral, Neanderthal

>>15023897
>i dont understand what coasting is
please leave

>>15023897
Maybe in an automatic.

>>15023897
No.

>coasting
The most logical thing to do. Leave it at N
>downshift revmatching
Similar but you follow the car's speed with the gears and the crank

>>15023897
>having no compression

when i let off the throttle in-gear and high in the RPM band it noses the car forward

its called having TORQUE idiot. if your car won't engine brake at speed its because your engine compression can't overcome the forces required to slow down the vehicle

letting off the throttle in a powerful car is how you spin out. it engine brakes violently and will upset the car

watch any mustang do a burnout and crash ever.

>bang gears into 2nd/3rd doing a burnout
>wheel speed; 100+ Mph
>let off throttle and spin out killing people

Also rolling in the highest gear saves gas, coasting in neutral Save's less gas than both overdrives

>>15023910
an automatic will engine brake if its manually selected into a lower gear. until you tap the brakes and the torque converter is unlocked. but then you're already braking.

>>15023887
It's proper according to people that haven't driven on the roads in 50 years. In a modern car, you have enough torque to not actually lug the engine unless you're trying to start in third.

It's proper according to race drivers who actually have a need to suddenly accelerate. In the real world, you suddenly brake. Period. If someone rear ends you, they are at fault for not maintaining a safe following distance. Period. You probably have a car that will let you survive the event without severe whiplash instead of a 94 civic.

>>15023929
I know, I'm just saying if he lets off the gas and his car doesn't start engine braking automatically he's most likely in an automatic.

>>15022885
the reason they do this is because ten other assholes before you have driven like retards trying to show off and they don't want you to do the same dumb shit those other guys did.

>>15023925
No it doesn't.

Fuel is related to RPM. The higher the RPM the higher the fuel consumption.

*supposedly* the Idle has to be the lowest point at which the engine can ignite using compression and have enough torque to start moving the car, and gettting at a lower RPM than that will either make issues when moving the car or the car will just shut down.

>>15023922
lift-off oversteer is a funny thing

>>15023932
>racing driver

>ever, ever not needing to immediately accelerate or decelerate

>>15023938
the engine consumes no fuel if you're off the throttle and above idle speed

>>15023943
You're not very smart, but then again you think a sequential downshift with zero skips in which neutral is only used when shifting is the proper way to drive.

>>15023938
Yes it does

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-efficient_driving?wprov=sfla1

>>15023934
or if you're in a manual in an overdrive gear, depending on gearing ratios/rpm/engine torque

a corvette cruising at 1600 rpm going 70mph isn't going to engine brake much in 7th gear. also depends on rolling resistance if you want to include other factors

your civic is cruising at 3000+ rpm in final gear, which is why it will engine brake a lot sooner. like a truck hauling logs

>>15023938
>Fuel is related to RPM. The higher the RPM the higher the fuel consumption.

This part isn't right at all. when you let off the gas peddle the throttle body closes. Which in turn restricts the fuel injectors. You can be at 6k rpm and then let off the throttle and you will be using as much gas as if you were in neutral. Which is why the engine will start to slow causing engine braking.

>it's illegal to coast to a stop in nearly every state but Hawaii

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>>15023945
>the engine consumes no fuel if you're off the throttle and above idle speed
You might say it consumes little, but unless you genuinely dont know how the engine works, you cant say that the car isn't consuming fuel as long as its still on.

More RPM = More fuel
The more time at idle/low RPM = less fuel consumption

>>15023956
You are wrong
the injectors literally shut off

>>15023810
>there is no combustion

>>15023950
Okay okay, there are many variables. I was making a very broad statement. That most the time if you let off the throttle in a manual it will start to brake and most of the time if you let off the gas in an automatic it will coast.

>>15023953
Right, i know what you mean. Feel kinda retarded now that i remember that. But what's the point of having the car at that RPM then even if its consuming as much as when its on idle?

>>15023962
You're 100% right, he's just being a counterfactual autist.

>>15023963
it's not consuming any fuel, most likely

>>15023963

It's not consuming any fuel where as neutral has to power the idle engine with gas

>>15023965
No. It cant be that its actually not consuming fuel because then there would be no explosion at all, which is basically having the engine coast while off.

>>15022966
>charging your grandmother gas money

>>15023962
>automatic it will coast.

its not really coasting though. its not the same as having your manual car in neutral and coasting.

>>15023967
Wait, the fuel injectors shut off until the crank reaches idle speed?

>>15023968
Jesus read the fucking energy efficiency Wikipedia link you lazy cunts, plain as day, rolling in the highest gear saves more gas than neutral

>>15023975
Feel kinda like a retard but through insults i learnt something new today. Thanks /o/.

>>15023974
Yes. That's why your car suddenly starts lurching as you approach idle if you slow down in a high gear

>>15023981
Shit. I am a mechanic and i feel like a retard. At least i learnt that.

Never experience this. Missus likes fast. Tho my 250hp super "sedan" car doesnt really sound like it. :(

>>15023991
it's okay, it doesn't really affect anything in the long run

I wrenched for a few years before figuring the details of all this stuff out, I'm sure there's plenty to learn still

the best part is you get to learn anonymously

>>15023563
you're joking right

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>>15023705
those brakes aren't helping if your tires are that shit jesus christ

>>15024017
Oh yeah those junkyard Mayruns? They lasted about a week, I replaced them right away

>>15022941
Lol?

You god damn beta faggots are doing it wrong, if your car is fun and your girl's not a bitch (50% of women) she will LOVE the noises.

So what happens if I'm being towed in a car without an engine, but I down shift into 2nd from 60 mph?
How many people think nothing?

>>15023605
you're wrong

>>15024043
go to bed Steven

>>15024036
>without an engine
Nothing would happen. Assuming you're being towed by the drive wheels it would just spin the transmission.

>>15024044
but I just got up. Is Steven your lover?

>>15024053
Why, are you jealous?

>>15023721

>have you ever read something so fucking retarded, you literally have no idea how to reply to it?

>>15024036
i guess it might be possible for it to damage the diff/ or trans

>>15022966
You sound like a piece of shit

>>15023897

Take your foot off the throttle with the car in gear, car starts slowing down. This is engine braking. If you downshift so the revs are higher, you get more engine braking.

Take your foot off the throttle and take the car out of gear = this is coasting.

You are a fucking cretin. Its one thing not to know the difference and asking, its another not knowing the difference and strutting about proclaiming you are right.

>>15023563
I drive a Corolla and I fishtailed on ice on the way home from work one night, fuck off.

>>15024081
Not if your constantly rev matching. It should feel like your in neutral.

>go to 0-220km/h
>gf smiling and not scaring
>perfect

>cycling through every gear from 70mph to a stop
>look like Keith Moon on doing a drum solo
>girl friend gives you the stink eye
>lifetime of masturbation follows

>>15023676
did it in a GU with a TD42 By accident, was at about 1200 in 5th jumped to 3500ish on the down shift

>>15023579
>he can't heel-toe multiple times in a second

Step up your game son.

>>15023306

I'm at 4.5k at 80mph (5k at 90) with a loud exhaust. Motorway trips feel like one long race track.

>>15023783

>oh shit an emergency just happened
>better put it back in g-

>>15023799
>time
Who gives a shit, takes 1/2 a day
>money
You sure sound like a faggot. My brakes were $800 for all 4 corners, a normal heavy duty clutch + pressure plate isn't any more expensive.

>hurr why would you put more wear on a part designed for the wear in order to increase your control, decrease your fuel use and increase engine life by blowing carbon out on compression

>>15024252
>oh shit emergency situation
>better accel-

In theory all forms of harm avoidance in an automobile are terribly complex actions that you will never ever have time to do.

>>15023831
Rev matching is if I'm at 2.5k rpm in 4th and I want to be in 3rd I would clutch-in, neutral, clutch out, hit the throttle to increase rpm to match what 3rd will be (3.5kish depending on car?), clutch-in, 3rd, clutch-out. Obviously the rpm increases because I downshifted yet travelling the same speed.

>>15024383
That's double clutching.

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>it's an autists arguing over braking in manual episode
keep 'em coming guys

>>15023596
You really are retarded.

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>going up steep hill in 60kw shitbox
>downshift to 3rd and floor it
>revs still dropping
>2nd
>start approaching the speed limit at breakneck turtle pace
>people behind are honking
>engine is screaming
>'wow anon u think u driving a turbo haha speed racer'

>>15023635
>When you are going to stop leave it at neutral and slightly use the brakes until you stop.
bet you're the type of guy to put your car in neutral while going down hill to save gas

>>15023682
revmatching = revving your engine to the same speed as the wheels shift down a gear and than release the clutch so you don't wear it out

If your with a women that makes comments on your driving habits exile driving. Leave that bitch she's a whore.

>>15022885
drifts over centre line
swerves to avoid an oncoming truck
almost drives off an embankment
>It's just a txt bro

>>15023748
>Engine braking IS about having the engine in the redline

You seem to know this from video games.

>this thread

Sometimes, I miss her senpaitachi. My ex.

She was a maniac behind the wheel. Always botched at people. Drove very fast.

Once we were doing 60 on a tight turn and had I not told her to slow down we would've flipped over and probably been ded.

>>15023526
ahh cable brakes
always so unbalanced and weak it is safer to use the differential to slow down

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>unintentionally losing traction around a corner
>I-im a pro driver, I was trying to do that
>Where are you going Melissa that's not the smell of shitty underwear that's the coolant or something!

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>>15024800
>got my grandparents and my brothers in the car
>2 conversations going on at once and i'm trying to figure out how to get to some shit restaurant
>take off uphill on wet road
>wheels start spinning like nobodies business
>everyone goes quiet
>wheels find grip and we start moving
>nobody says shit for a few minutes

>>15022885
my tires screech on every 90 degree turn, regardless of speed. its kind of embarassing cause it looks like im just showing off

>>15023276
The car at the time had stock exhaust, but a lot of engine noise because lolhyundai

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>in a friends Fiesta, on a roundabout, me, my GF, he and his GF
>he smashes the pedal, front wheels spim because of course they would
>OMG WHY YOU SPEEDING FFS
>FFS I KNOW WHAT IM DOING
>TELL THEM, ANON

>>15023635
>rev matching from 6th straight into 1st

does engine braking use fuel? does the engine sense you're engine braking and turn off the injectors or something?

>>15024942
Jesus you're really dumb huh

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>>15024949
thanks for the helpful answer

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>>15023748
>Engine braking is having the engine in the redline
>The rev limiter will save you if you shift from 9k revs in 5th to 2nd gear

Isn't school on, how'd you get past the firewall.

>>15023845
I think in America if you can sit in a car for about 5 minutes without pissing and shitting your pants you pass.

>>15023596
>If you were rev matching, you wouldn't get any engine braking
>>15023748
>Engine braking IS about having the engine in the redline


wow holy shit someone actually spent their time typing this out, presumably also believing it was true

>>15024972
I didn't type that out but when I rev match there is no engine braking. At least no more than if you slowed down normally.

There's no change in momentum, the car is just revving higher than before.

>>15023635

Mate, the ECU cuts fuel when it detects engine braking. Idling uses more fuel.

>>15023956

You're wrong, mate.

Injected engines cill cut off fuel under braking conditions.

Carb engines will still draw fuel and air through the idle circuits, possibly even more than usual due to high vacuum conditions.

>>15025038
>Carb engines will still draw fuel and air through the idle circuits, possibly even more than usual due to high vacuum conditions.
no most carbs will cut off on deceleration

>>15022885
>Screenshot and show girlfriend
>She laughs because she does the same
>"What kind of name is anon?"

Normies.

>cant do mad downshifts in an electric car

>>15023947
Coasting in neutral is illegal for a reason, so niggers who don't know how to drive stay away from manual like you. You clearly don't know how to rev match down shift or you wouldn't be having this convo.

>>15024618
Australians are so fucking stupid, this entire thread was derailed because of them

I've done 130mph with my gf in the car reading a book.

Man up faggots

>>15023579
>just wear my brakes out senpai

>>15025085
No. No they wont.

>>15025332
yes they will, and you can google carb dfco if you want to yourself mate

>>15025339
No, Mr-Kangaroo fucker, the carb cannot know when the car is engine-braking or in idle. So it has to let enough fuel to allow for the engine to idle while the crank is slowing down. Go see how the carb actually function and check why they were replaced. Unless the car is turned off, the carb wont stop drawing fuel.

>>15025356
you can google patents dating back to the 50s showing it.
>being 60 years behind technology

>>15022885
what race is this queen

>>15025364
>google patents dating back to the 50s showing it.
Good. Patents. Now show me or explain to me how a carb would not use fuel without a computer controlling the RPM, because ive searched the entire internet and found no one even saying that engine braking with the carb wont use fuel

>>15025402
human race

>>15025403
Something like a Weber DCOE won't.
I think a Ford VV will, SUs defo did even after they added a dashpot to stop the violent lift off braking effect it caused

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>>15023897

to be fair if you're screeching tires you are probably cornering a bit too fast. If your passenger doesn't want that it's completely understandable.

>family yells at me if i corner at more than .01g or lean my bike over more than 3°
>threatened to get rid of MY car and bikes if I don't stop stop driving "irresponsibly"

>>15025492
hope you told them to fuck off

>>15025492
Or you could just have shitty tires

Put on some good tires and try cornering again, if there is no tire screech, even with some g's nobody will bitch because they don't hear anything.

You see, normies aren't used to tire noise. As soon as it screeches, they think the car will break down and it's out of their comfort zone.

>>15022966
Lol, werf.

>>15024690
I've actually done this and coasted from the highest point of the parkway to the town down below. 3800 feet and tight curves to carry speed through

>>15024652
>drives a lada running on two cylinders
NIGHT OF FIRE

>>15024099
What year? My 03 corolla overseers before it understeers.

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>>15022980
>asking for power

>>15024998
A car in third gear at 5k rpm has more friction loss than a car in fourth gear going the same speed at 3500 rpm.

>Only give rides to people who respect either my car or me enough to not do something if I ask them not to do it
Only real issues I've had were asking people not to eat in it beforehand and my retard friend hanging out of my window with an airsoft gun pointing it at cars. I also found his underwear in my car later that day[?].

At least with my first point if a woman takes issue with the whole respect thing it's a massive red flag to get out of the relationship rather than put it up with that shit anyway.

>>15023682
higher gear means less energy is lost to go the same speed.

try it out some time

a car in 5th gear will coast a lot longer than a car in 3rd gear. that's fucking engine braking

>>15023821
I took the test when i didn't know about this stuff and i passed.

>>15022980
>dad saying that

my condolences anon

>>15023869
Not if your car has 376k miles

>>15025326
>using the brakes under normal driving conditions
>worried about them wearing out


maybe stop using chinese tooth filling paste for brake pad material?

>>15023596
I want the stupid yuropoor posters to leave /o/

>>15022943
kek

>>15025555
This

Normies don't understand cars.

They don't realise that keeping the engine at lower revs actually makes it more difficult for it to do its job, and 99.9% of all drivers corner/pull off really slowly.

It makes me feel sick when I see people pull off at such low revs that the car starts stuttering and crying for more gas. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Just give it more gas you retarded cuck.

>>15022943
>Insinuating you have a woman

>>15023945
This. No point in shifting to a lower gear until you start nearing your engines idle rpm when slowing down. Just use your brakes, and stay in gear till Rpms approach idle then either neutral or downshift, You decide. Engine should use no fuel/very little compared to idle unless your ecu is retarded.

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>>15023591

>>15025811
Maybe in America the driving instructor is bewildered at the site of a stick shift

>>15023845
>You must downshift through each gears (no skipping) whenever you slow down or stop

I thought it's supposed to teach you how to drive, not how to be a scared cuck and go from gear to gear unnecessarily, like a pussy?

>Shift up in the 2000-3000 rpm range
>While sitting at a red light, stay in 1st gear with the clutch down.
>If you do the roadside stop on a hill (or told to “pretend” you on a hill), and you’re asked to turn off the engine, don’t forget to put it in first gear and turn your wheels before turning off the engine (you’re allowed to “dry steer”). When you resume, hold clutch and brake down, start your engine

Jesus christ

>>15024942
Google how a drivetrain works and what a clutch/transmission does

Also look up how an engine works.

All I'll give you, is that the injectors are running at all times when the engine is running (every rotation of the crank they're engaged)
it has nothing to do with the concept of engine braking.

>>15026054
A scared cuck goes into neutral like a bitch because he doesn't know how to down shift properly like you

>IF I DOWN SHIFT MY ENGINE WILL ASPLODE!!

>>15024652
If my passenger said that I would slap them and tell them to gtfo the car

>>15026077
What? lmao

My point was that it's unnecessary to go from gear to gear when you can go from 3rd to 1st or 4th to 2nd, or 4th to 1st etc.


I don't go into neutral whilst the car is moving.

>Americans gettin this mad

>>15026054
I think you're the cuck who is too scared to try heel and toe at high speeds.

>>15026092
Then maybe you should make your point clear the first time not the second

>>15022885
>Friend has a jdm s15 and hoons the absoute fuck out of it
>I drive a spyder
>Driving with him he's constantly trying to look at my speedo, but can't see anything because of the cup thing around the dial, always tells me to take it easy when I'm either going the speed limit or even slightly slower
>Decide to hoon it with him in, take corners at 60km/h without losing traction, he's freaking out
>Later admits I'm a good driver

>>15026092
jumping gears can be hard on the synchros at speed

>>15026118
My apologies, good friend.

>>15026133
>can't heel toe
>can't even revmatch

baka

>>15026118
Not his fault you are not smart enough to understand basic english

>>15026127
>hoons the fuck out of an s15
>you take a corner at 60km/h and he freaks out?
>wat?
im guessing your version of hooning is accelerating half throttle off the lights.

>>15026127
I don't trust any driver unless I know I've seen them have track time. You cannot possibly know how your car and tires will react unless you've pushed the car to the limit, risky behavior in a unproven driver does lead to crashes. If my sister who has driven 5 years longer than I have started driving quickly and erratically I would not feel safe, where as I have more than a hundred hours of track time know what my car will do

>>15026134
Even if you revmatch, the synchros still have a lot of work to do if you jump a gear or two

>>15026144
love the syncros meme

>>15026144
your mom has a lot of work to do

>>15026142
It's a pretty sharp set of corners without guard rails, honestly nothing more extreme than track driving. He's no driving pro himself. I just understand apexes and the feel of my car.

>>15026144
If you're rolling to a stop on the brakes and pop out of 4th or 5th and then pop it into first or whatever appropriate gear when you stop/need to accelerate again, there will be no abnormal wear on the synchros. You do not understand the synchromesh.

>>15026144
If you're really that worried about it, then you can double clutch when you downshift.

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>>15023007
>I don't know what you all are doing wrong.

Fuck easy to explain.

It's about confidence.

Women always need to feel safe.
If you radiate a certain level of confidence in what you're doing, you can get away with the most hooniest hoons and they will giggle.

If you seem like some insecure manlet, they will be scared even when you just rev-match.

It's a combination between your body language, actual skills, physical attributes and fucking confidence.

>>15026143
Fair enough, my mate's rubbish though - rims are all fucked up from him misjudging everything, and can't hold a line. Him freaking out about me going 65 in a 70 zone is just annoying, considering he randomly goes 140-170 in 50 zones and has almost lost his license three times now.

>>15022900
I feel your dubs bro...I feel you...

>>15024014
All serious baby. Learn to drive.

>>15024099
>I talk about snow
>this retard brings up ice

>pre-gps days, early 90s
>me and girlfriend driving to party
>never been in this area
>"look out for Spencer ave, the directions say it's on our right"
>can't see shit because rain
>"omfg wait babe you just passed Spencer!!"
>tell her to calm down, u-turn, get on Spencer 15 seconds later
>become instant friends with party host and his wife
>hang out nearly every weekend as couples
>STILL TO THIS FUCKING DAY YEARS LATER
>"hey babe remember to turn on Spencer up here, don't miss the turn"

I KNOW BITCH, I FUCKING KNOW, IT WAS ONE TIME.

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>doing 60 mph in my shitbox at 4 am in the highway, my ex gf was riding shotgun
>floor it
>reach 100 mph a.k.a. top speed of my shitbox
>sense my FR tire has low pressure
>inform her about this
>she doesn't care

Also
>second date with her, before we were a couple
>talking about stuff while I was driving to a restaurant
>this cunt cuts me off in a narrow street
>proceed to wot in my shitbox and overtake him and cut him off
>nicca is mad and follows me closely
>somehow my shitbox is able to overrun this clown
>say "sorry bout that" and continue talking as if nothing happened

Damn, she was a good girl and a great passenger.

>>15026344
snow is literally ice.

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>>15026233

You are right.
A friend of mine drives like shit and doesn't even understand the basic mechanical concepts of rev matching and stuff like that. Hell, he downshifts without rev matching on the highway and shit and I can feel the physical pain the gearbox is going through.

Anyways, we have this female friend in common, and he would always drive like a dick pretending to hoon and shit and almost got into several crashes.

When she's riding in my car and I hoon it, she ain't scared. She loves it, even. I remember this time when it had rained all day long so the streets were still wet and I floored it at a light, spinning my wheels like a mad cunt and she asked me to do it several times and she even recorded it.

It's all about confidence.
>tfw I am only completely confident and pseudo alpha as fuck when I drive
>tfw I'm an insecure piece of crap when I'm not driving a car

>>15026515
>>15026233
A long wheelbase will do a lot as well, considering my tiny car feels like you're doing 85 in a luxo barge while really doing the speed limits around town.

>wintertime
>driving aunt to her place
>sister riding shotgun
>intersection where aunt lives is at bottom of 2 small descents
>black ice always
>turn
>rear goes wide a bit, as usual
>both screech, as usual

>>15026493
don't ever reply to me again

>>15026730
y

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>v8 Exploror
>Gibson exhaust
>Drive senpai to church on the freeway
>90 mph is the norm here in Sun Diego
>Drive 65 in the middle lane
>A bunch of fuckers in their shitbox asian sedans and douchebags in bmws overtaking us
>fug dis.gif
>Go from 2k to 3.5k to reach 75.
>Mom riding shotgun, "Holy shit mijo slow the fuck down!!11one"

>>15026873
>mijo

>>15026873
BUILD WALL

>>15026873
>mijo

>>15026873
>mijo

>>15026873
>mijo

>>15027009
>>15026990
>>15026921
>>15026894
>>15026879
¡Muchas gracias for these (You)'s gringos! I go back to homeland and give them to mi familia in Mexico jajaja!

Even spics wander these parts. Especially when there's nothing good on mulp.

>>15022885
>take turn mildly accelerating at 1500rpm in 3rd
>go over a line or crosswalk
>tyres screech
Diesel life.

>>15026478
what happened, anon?

>>15027075
Soy argentino. ni soy gringo y hasta yo se que sos un pedazo de mierda. Hijo de puta. Ojala a tu mama la deporten para que los narcos la violen y la usen de mula. Negro de mierda.

>>15027089
diesels are GOAT

horsepower is a meme

>>15027092
Being this Spic-butt-mad.

>Argentinian white-master race
Lol

>>15027092
t. Alberto Barbosa
:^3c

>>15027153
Not my fault the mexicans in this board are overflowing.

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>>15027174
Nigga you just jelly you ain't enjoying amerifat life here.

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>>15027199
Yes. Yes i am.

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>>15023635
>SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

No.

> friend acts like in OF
>"nahh bruh I got this watch
> go to the max of traction
> under steer horribly
> go into the wrong lane on a blind corner
>"... oops"

>>15022895

that's not what rev matching is for...

>>15022885

you running 6 inch wide tires or something buddy?

I'm new to /o/, what are shitboxes? Just cheap cars?

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>>15022976
>Talking shit on the south
>mfw we have like 54% nigger population in my state
>mfw gerrymandered to the point of no possible democratic win possible
>mfw no other state in the country besides Mississippi deals with the amount of dumb niggers we have
>mfw niggers aren't treated special

Keep talking about how great your white homogeneous part of the country is doing bub. I bet you cant count on one hand how many niggers you've met in your life.

>>15027092
>>15027155

Fuck off and learn the one true language you fucks

>>15027372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4JmignFow

>>15027420
I bend over for the american overlord to spank me and penetrate me with their freedom and democracy. Please. Do me a BBQ sauce facial!

>>15022885
>listening to a woman's opinion
>not busting a Dagumi right after
No wonder you're alone.

>>15022966
>I'm the only person she knows that will drive her around just for gas money

My granny is dead. I'd be very happy if she were still around so that I could drive her on errands and checkups with the doctor.

>>15023821
This times a billion. My instructor literally at a stop grabbed my shifter while simultaneously asking if I was in gear and said you should basically ALWAYS be in gear. Period.

>>15023922
>The most intelligent post in the thread. >Nobody responds to it

Engine braking is forcing the movement of the car to turn over the engine. The resistance of the engine compression and the drivetrain slows the car. This uses no fucking fuel and does nothing negative to the car.

>>15023968
There is no explosion idiot. You don't hear your car running when you are idling, because the wheels are moving the crank and therefore the pistons.

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>>15027952
>You don't hear your car running when you are idling

>>15027970
Mistyped. You don't hear it when you are moving but off the power

>>15024297
You're an inbred fuckface.
Which takes longer, stepping on the gas because you're already in gear OR putting it in gear THEN accelerating?
Don't think too hard.

>>15022885
>city tuned suspension
>take corners a little quick
>body roll, maybe 3 or even just 2 wheels with grip
>no tire screech at all
>feels good man

>>15028001
Yes you do you fucking retard.
Have you ever driven a car in your life?

>>15025326
>haha have fun wearing out your brakes! you're gunna have to pay 25 bucks to replace them!