>reaching your mid 20s and still owning used cars >mid

>>14895172
>buying into the "if it ain't new it's garbage" meme
good goyim

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>wanting a modern "car"
>not buying an E39 M5 and supercharging it o create the ultimate sleeper

Serfs guna serf.

if it aint broke don't fix it. i'll keep driving well into 300k miles if it'll take me there.

>>14895172
What's wrong with that?

Go ahead buy that brand new car that loses value when you drive off the lot, then depreciates every year thereafter until it hits rock bottom and finds its true market value, maybe by that time you've realized it doesn't matter and that you've only wasted money on an idea that didn't benefit anything but your ego.

>>14895210
This is one of the dumbest arguments to not buy a new car

>>14895172
I was a late bloomer driving-wise. Didn't start until my early 20s, so I didn't buy my first car until I was 26.
And I can't afford a new car yet, nor do I feel the need to have one. I prefer Fords, so three years is just nicely run in.

>he bought such a shitty car as his first car he doesn't want to keep it

Top cuck. Enjoy your 1993 rusty toyota corolla OP.

>>14895233
OTAKU LOSER

>>14895237
This was never implied

>>14895232
You simply don't care about pissing away money because you're a millennial.

>>14895248
No, I have a good job.

>>14895252
>I finance everything
>I make under 60k a year but I consider that a good job
>I don't mind being in debt because at least I have new shiny things

Please anon

>>14895259
Why are you projecting

>>14895210
>>14895248
>bought car new with 5 miles on it
>sticker was $17.7k
>bought it for 10.7k
>used car dealers still sell them for up to 10k
>was recently rated as a best buy for under 10k by CR

>b-b-but muh depreciation
>b-b-but muh lack of unscheduled repairs due to PO's neglect of maintenance

>>14895262
More like I hit a soft spot and you feel angry at yourself for buying a shit box brand new

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>new cars
Enjoy your unfixable rocket surgery electronics from bumper to bumper.

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>>14895248
you're probably a millenial too you jack ass

>>14895190
A person i knew with a 2003 Camry had almost 300k miles.
Main seal leaked etc but in the end the slushbox is what gave out. If it was manual i bet it would go 500k before a rebuild.

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>>14895266
>guise check out my brand new shit box

>>14895270
K

>>14895248
>only have at best 65 years on this Earth
>concerned about pissing away money

Not to sound millenial but Y do, in fact, OLO.

I don't understand why you people think everyone on /o/ works a dead end job

>>14895232
>>14895248
to be fair, the cost of repairing a car has increased so much it's ridiculous. i want uneducated irish mechanics back who charge a reasonable 20$/hr instead of this ridiculous 240$ to replace a single sway bar bushing. the only argument that I can accept for buying a new car is if you absolutely do not have the time to work on a car because your time is worth more ie. you have a good job. otherwise it's like a chore i need to do like washing the cum stains off my sheets every six months.

>>14895266
>nothing went wrong with his car
>all new cars are good
yeah, look I would buy a new ute if I could afford it. I just cant afford 40k$ though. so its not going to happen.

>>14895285
>22 y/o
>work union job at snackfoods factory
>own 3 cars and a bike
>still make enough money to afford a decent city apartment

I understand jobs don't just fall in your lap but jesus christ i have no marketable skills and i got a job you can actually retire from
>

>>14895277
>If it was manual i bet it would go 500k before a rebuild.

But that makes no sense? It would have required multiple clutch jobs. Do you think manuals don't require rebuilds? Not only that but they could replace the tranny but more cost effective in buy a different used camry

>>14895308
>to be fair, the cost of repairing a car has increased so much it's ridiculous.
To be fair(er) parts are getting scarcer for older cars.
If you had a smallblock'd classic niggas would still charge you an arm and a leg because they could.

>>14895312
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Float_shifting

Manuals don't need rebuilt until the gears are smooth as glass. Literally git gud or your wife's son will bring home the bitches.

>>14895172
>bought new econobox few months after getting my licence, drove it 2,5 years and 120kkm til it needed a major repair, sold it
>got new econobox from parents, still under warrenty

now i'm in my mid 20s working an okay job (shy over 50k€ while average is 30k€ in germany), technically still on the first ever car
wouldn't buy a new car simply because i can't/ won't afford the cars i really like
will buy a bike in a month or two tho

>>14895274
this is actually one of the reasons I can seriously say that new cars are shit. recently had to deal with a 97 ford falcon that has some bullshit interlock system such that when the ignition key mechanism gets old and worn, it wont allow the ignition computer to send an activation code to the ECU to let the car turn on. instead you need to find a hard to find part from a junkyard and leave the ignition on for an hour so the computer relearns the new parts serial number. then it can turn on. or you can buy a 400$ bypass unit.

HOW ABOUT NO. FUCKING KEY SWITCHES RELAY AND TURNS ON CAR FUCKING LASER KEY READING HORSE SHIT. NIGGERS WILL BREAK MY WINDOWS NOT BASH DOWN MY DOOR.

also main benefit of owning an old car, not worrying about high tech car theft or car theft in general.

>>14895332
>also main benefit of owning an old car, not worrying about high tech car theft or car theft in general.
>implying
http://www.dmv.org/insurance/why-old-cars-get-stolen-more.php

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>>14895282
>check out my old shitbox
You mean I could have had a less reliable, less safe, less powerful car from the '90s if I only had NEETbux or GBP to spend?
>pic related: how much sense you're making

>>14895308
I never said all new cars were good, just explaining to the resident retard that buying new isn't automatically bad. Also, I had to replace the battery and brake pads, still on every factory bulb 7 years later though which I consider lucky. I've seen newer cars with lights burnt out already.

>>14895312
I'm at 154k on my original clutch and it still grips strong, how often do you think clutches need to be replaced?

>>14895317
oh a 20yo car in australia is the point when it starts to get expensive. a 10yo car, the parts are cheap. an oil filter costs as much as a cup of coffee.

I mean when you buy a used car it tends to have worn everything. then you need to run around buying every goddamn filter because nobody ever changes a fuel filter. or does a transmission pan drop. or any reasonable service that a 10yo car should have had done at least twice in its life. do them yourself and I can expect those to cost 50$ in parts. a mechanic will run around finding 200$ to replace this bushing, 200$ to replace that filter, 1000$ to do a pan drop, 1000$ to do a timing belt.

if you're wealthy enough to not give a fuck about paying for repairs like that then sure, buying a new car makes sense anyway. if your time is worthless like mine, it makes sense to save those thousands of dollars and live like a king on neetbux.

>>14895345
>Commonly Stolen Older Vehicles
inb4 they didn't even offset the numbers with the popularity of the models

>Not loving your first car and being sentimentality attached to it.

>>14895232
>Spending money on depreciating assets is smart.

>>14895308
>a reasonable 20$/hr instead of this ridiculous 240$
For what it's worth, the actual mechanic is still getting paid the same amount.

>>14895361
That picture actually makes sense if u kno history nigga

>>14895345
I have a very nigger proof ignition security wiring job i did myself though. nobody can hotwire it. unless they know the exact location of the relays. which are under bolted down plates in the engine compartment. and they can follow the all black wiring to them and the respective components. and somehow work out my psychotic paranoid NEET wiring scheme.

>>14895378
t. stockholm syndrome

>>14895285
Have you seen the kind of cars people on here own?

Obviously they aren't very successful.

>>14895312
>Clutch job
>Involving a transmission rebuild
Do you even wrench?

>>14895397
They're pretty successful for being 12-14.

>>14895397
>People buying porsche caymans on a pizza man salary

it just matters how dedicated you are, and the fact that some people don't care about those cars. I rather build up a 300zx or a e30 than touch a brand new car with all the bullshit that comes with it

>>14895378
Found the femanon

>>14895177
>ultimate sleeper
>car has 400hp stock

>>14895453
Just debadge it, get a discrete exhaust system and pretend it's a fourbanger diesel

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>not keeping and maintaining your first car for at least 10 years

This is why you're poor.

>>14895172
>spending money on new cars instead of investing
>not maintaining cheap shitbox yourself for even more money for investments
I'm sorry you're a retard op.

>>14895486
Richer than you

>>14895392
What go you mean anon? That's the Confederate flag and they're black. I don't even understand

>>14897411
Seriously? The amount of black confederate soldiers that fought in the civil war?

It's quite literally a heritage thing for a lot of people, not racism like cucks believe.

>>14895172
>wanting a car at all.
Motorcycles pls

>buying used saves money
When will this meme end?

Anybody buying a used car out of warranty has to be absolutely insane unless they have money to burn. Have fun driving your outdated shitbox while paying the same amount in maintenance as payments on a new car.

>>14895172
who gives a fuck

>>14897496
Have fun being a useless cuck that can't into maintenance on a fucking car

>>14897496
I bought my car for 4800 and I've replaced the radiator and clutch over 3 years

The most cost efficient car ownership is pretty much buy old cars for a grand and drive them until they die, rinse and repeat.

>>14895172
>mid 20s and still have the first car you ever got as only car
Shit, I made it to 30 with a car my parents bought for me at 16.

It was just financial smarts.

>>14897521
>>14897514
My friend bought a 10 year old car and he's already had to spend thousands of dollars on brakes, tires, timing belts, shocks, spark plugs, fluid flushes, ball joints, exhaust leak, fuel pump, upgrade to stereo with aux, and probably a bunch of other stuff I can't recall off the top of my head. With that money he could have put down a down payment on a new car plus a year of payments.

>>14895393
Sounds like the revelco system in my 87 CRX

>>14897534
But muh integrated Bluetooth touchscreen tablet sport mode

>>14897548
Yeah that's what happens, not all the time though. >>14897521 my car here is from 1995. You just gotta thoroughly inspect it, and look for service records and all that.

>>14897548
That's one case. Sounds like he bought a car that was expensive at release and then was beaten down to a low selling price because it was a piece of shit.

>>14897548
your friend sounds like an idiot who just bought the first thing he liked.

>>14897548
>they bought a shit car so therefore they're all shit
I bought a 1999 Tacoma in 2004 and have only ever done routine maintenance in nearly 200k miles. Don't be stupid.

>>14897548
Tires, brakes, flushes, fuel pump are all standard maintenance on any car, so they negate out. Fluid flushes are sold to idiots, so that means your friend overpaid by getting everything done in a garage instead of doing all the easy shit himself.

Exhaust leak depends on the spot, +1 you. If it's just in the pipe though, cut it off and weld on a straight for $35.

The stereo isn't maintenance, it's ancillary crap.

>>14897548
>spend thousands of dollars on brakes, tires, timing belts, shocks, spark plugs, fluid flushes
This is all normal maintenance.

>>14897548
>With that money he could have put down a down payment on a new car plus a year of payments.
Yeah, and then pay for maintenance on top of those payments.

>>14897548
So what brand new car did you buy that's so great?

>>14897548
Your friend bought a shitty car.

Thats all there is to it.

>>14895174
>buying into the "if i can't afford it its garbage" meme
good nigger

>>14897603
nice projection

All cars are cool. I don't care what anyone drives as long as they enjoy it.

>>14897618
Gay as fuck post, but I agree senpai.

>>14897603
As an example of how buying new is not always good

>be 2015
>want new Mustang/Camaro/Challenger
>buy brand new model for $40,000
>drive off the lot
>car is now worth $30,000

>same scenario
>instead buy used 2013 model, literally same car as new one
>pay $30,000
>drive off lot
>car still worth $30,000

I like my car. I have no need for a new one.

>>14897627
>paying over $10k for a used car
that's also a good example of how buying used is not always good

>>14897647
>>paying over $10k for a used car is a bad thing
We don't all drive shitboxes anon

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>bought pic related with 100k for $2k
>wheels
>tires
>motor / trans swapped at 140k for units with 60k
>manifold/cat
>4 quik-struts
>inner/outer tie rods
>sway bar links / bushings
>camber adjustment bolts
>front / rear strut braces, center brace
>4 hours on the alignment rack
>front/rear brakes
>weatherstrip
>rear window motors/regulators
>4 coats of undercoating
>countless hours fixing minor shit

It's the second '00 elantra wagon I've owned, only around $8k in this one.

First one went to 325k, gonna see if I can't take this one to half a mil.

>driving an outdated, worn out shitbox and dumping money into repairs is better than buying a reliable new car with up to date technology and safety ratings

With the potential risk of having to face the cost of replacing a cvt transmission, hybrid battery replacement or other expensive repairs of new cars today, It's a good idea to always buy new and only keep while under warranty.

>>14897652
I assume that 95% of the users on here are just poor teens and tweens, judging by the amount of cheap shitboxes and miatas I see posted daily. I'm not rich by any means, but I can at least afford a new car.

This is pretty much the way I think these days. I like new tech, and I'm frightened about having to pay to fix any of it if it dies, so I keep my shit under warranty. Not enough room or time in life to spend on a project car at the moment.

>>14897655
You're just on a shitposting streak huh

>>14897655
>actually wanting technology and safety ratings

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Also who said that one's first car had to be a shitbox that wasn't worth keeping around?

>>14897660
>I'm not rich by any means, but I can at least afford a new car.
Affording monthly payments =/= affording a new car

>This is pretty much the way I think these days. I like new tech, and I'm frightened about having to pay to fix any of it if it dies, so I keep my shit under warranty.
You're a reason why cars are becoming boring appliances.

See
>>14897551

>>14897627
I keep cars until whenever the warranty expires. Personally, I don't buy used and probably never will, regardless of our finances. I'm happy to let someone else get jewed by mechanics when they take their 8 year old POS goes into the shop every other month.

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>>14897647
I beg to differ, Anon.

You seem real assmad about people warding others away from new cars.

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>>14897680

>>14897697
>talking about being jewed when you absolutely can't outrun the depreciation on a new car
>incapable of working on your own car
What are you, a faggot?

>>14897697
That's a fucking horrible way to buy cars.

Enjoy eating up that depreciation you dumbass.

>>14897704
I'm sorry, but the other anons in here are right and you're an idiot. If I'm deciding between payments on a car or dumping money into fixing a shitbox, then I'd rather have the new car with more up to date styling, better safety ratings, more up to date features etc.

>>14897711
>this jackass calling anyone else an idiot
You can't be serious

>>14895177
Step your sleeper game up son

Volvo 240 Twin Turbo make it happen

>>14897711
Kek.
>doesn't know fuckall about cars
>willingly throws away money on depreciation
>calls me an idiot
Not like you'd know what to do with money if you weren't living paycheck to paycheck anyway, douchecanoe.

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>>14897700

Is that supposed to bother me ?

Ain't my car.

>>14897711
You're one of those idiots that calls to have his car towed when he gets a flat tire, aren't you?

You're also the guy that gets fucked over hardcore by mechanics because you don't have a clue about how his car works, all you know is how to connect his iPhone to the Bluetooth infotainment system.

>Start out with an 01 Cavalier
>can do anything I want to the car because no sophistication
>Replace it with 2010 accent
>can't so fuckall without the computers tripping or not being able to access what I need to do
>work my way back to an 86 wagon with virtually no miles on it
>Can do whatever I want to the car and don't have to worry about a computer cucking me out of driving

Yea, nah, I'll stick with older cars m8

>>14897711
>muh safety

I drive a 5,000 station wagon, you drive a 2,000 pound econobox. Guess who's winning the fight

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>>14897768
>2010 accent
>can't so fuckall without the computers tripping

Hyundai tech here;

Genuinely curious as to

>why you were tarting up an accent in the first place
>what did you try and do that pissed off the ECM
>what couldn't you access or do, it's all right there out in the open

It's literally the bottom barrel A-to-B shitbox economy model, the most sophisticated thing on it is the direct injection system.

In before you put a cone filter on it and it set a code when it eventually fouled the throttle body / IAC (a piss easy fix) or it kept eating ignition coils, which they'll do just fine all on their own anyway.

>mid 20s and still have the first car you ever got as only car
yeah and it's great
its not even old its a 2007 and cars made now are even shittier so

>>14897697

>TFW I bought a 10 year old jeep for $4000 with 145k miles, it now has 170k and still worth $3000, did nothing but fluid changes in the past 1.5 years of ownership.

>saved thousands

>I'm the idiot

...yeah no

>>14897652
>buys used
>i-i don't drive a shitbox i swear!!

>>14895210

To be fair, if you already know your way around cars, and have had a lot of experience driving things that always need attention and are used (so you don't know what happened during their past ownership), getting a new car isn't too bad of a deal, as you know where everything stands (new). The amount of parts about to break or diffs about to grenade isn't unknown. And I know,

>hurr buy smarter

Its just a bit nice after a while. Plus, the car grows with you, initially the car has no personality, its a clean slate. But as you drive it, you develop a relationship with the car, and it is kind of nice as well to go from having the cold feeling of "meh its a new car" to actually having it mean more to you than money or A-B. But that's just my opinion.

>>14895274
You don't know unfixable rocket surgery electrics until you've dealt with 80's cars from any manufacturer. But especially Jokeswagon.

>>14895317
I think about this sort of thing all the time; why is it, that parts for machines designed decades ago on computers that were more primitive than anything electronic in 2016, without the use of CAD software, be so expensive? I understand that in order to make a brake caliper that a bit of advanced machining is required, but why does it seem so impossible to blast out the ducts in the steel, flush them, and blast the surface of the part? This is to assume that people working on cars have a cleverness and capability that comes with basic engineering of course. I notice this especially with old (OLD) Hurrly Durrvidson parts, why is it so hard to find working parts for a 100 year old bike? 100 years ago, UNIVAC wasn't even a thing, everything was machined and designed by hand, and created by hand. It wasn't some crazy cutting edge aero kit on an F1 car, it was machined by hand, so long ago. I'm not saying "ugh why is it so expensive, I'm a millenial and everything should be given to me" but instead, "why aren't people making their own parts".

>>14897699
>You seem real assmad about people warding others away from new cars.
Reading this thread and then I see this. The irony is amazing.

>>14898331
I hope you're not referring to me specificially, because I hadn't posted until right then.

>>14897627

>be 2015
>want new Mustang/Camaro/Challenger
>buy brand new model for $40,000
>drive off the lot
>car is now worth $30,000

Except that's bullshit. Look up the prices on used Challengers. Even with a lot of miles and a couple years on them they don't depreciate that much. In 3 years I put 75k miles on mine and lost $5k on it. The idea that stuff depreciates this huge amount is mostly bullshit. Some cars do have huge depreciation, but not all of them.

>>14897660

> I'm not rich by any means, but I can at least afford a new car.

Anyone with semi-decent credit can afford a new car. You could work at McDonalds and get a new car if your credit score is in the 700's.

>>14895172
>mid 20s and still have the first car you ever got as only car

I'm waiting for it to die.

It fucking wont.

>>14897603
>brother buys new car
>headlights blow monthly
>steering alignment never lasts
>codes every day
>"""it does that"""

>>14897768
>>14897816

Still waiting for a response on this

>Parents bought me a brand new car even though I told them I'd rather have an older car.
>After 80k km and expensive trips to the shop decide to sell the piece of shit
>Buy my own used car
>So far so good

Something I don't think I fully understand but it's what all americunts believe

>Afford a car
>Credit

These are incompatible. It's not your money, it's the bank's money.

I'm guessing its this retard logic that got us world recession

>"I can afford it I just need this loan I have no chance of paying back ever! lel"

>>14900978
So your theory is things only break on new cars and once you fill them with aftermarket replacement parts it runs forever. America runs on morons like you. If it wasn't for dumb asses this country would be have been bankrupt

>>14895308
>2016
>not wrenching on your own
uhmmmm, reddit enjoys bench racers.

>>14901042
it means his parents bought him a new cheap car that fucking sucks
he then bough a older car that is godlike

older doesn't mean its bad and newer doesn't mean its good

>>14901042
things break on ALL cars, no need to have BRAND new and waste money on NEW parts. Money pits are fun for a short while. Buying used is a reflection of the economy not the cause.

>>14895248

Google the term millennial, if you arent a millennial youre fuckin' middle aged. If youre middle aged and on 4chan you should really kill yourself.

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>there is people in this thread right now who don't own cars made in 2016

I still have my first skyline, I'll never get rid of it because my pop told me that if I did, I'd regret it when I'm his age. He's still trying to find a 73 Corolla to replace the one that was his first car, that he sold.

>>14897945
Perhaps people want all the benefits they get with new cars.
If they can afford a new car, Why not get one?

My newest car is an '81; of the three I own, I could sell one for $16,000.00 more than I have into it, another for $5,000.00 more, and I could make $1,000.00 on my daily driver. Why would I ever buy new? I prefer to drive classics until I want a different classic or someone offers me a decent profit.

Thinking about leasing a 2016 wrx so I can hoon it and not worry about having to fix it or anything and then just get rid of it when the lease runs out. Is that a dumb idea, if I just don't feel like fucking around with maintenance? I'm just so done worrying about whether my used cars are going to randomly break one day and I'll have to drop $1k on it.

>>14895172
Fuck you my camry only has 300K miles

>>14898120
My 80's car from an upscale manufacturer has a fraction of today's electronics. In fact I'm glad it has central locking.

And the central locking isn't even electric.

>>14897697
what a fucking huge faggot you are anon
you are the type if guy that loves to see her wife get banged by other guys!

>>14897603
good nigger

>implying negroes don't finance

B-but I like the look of 90s and 00s cars

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>>14895266
>being proud of a shitbox

>>14903756
90s cars, okay, 2000s cars, pretty gross. Like everything in the 2000s until like 2012 were nasty.

>>14897603
Dumping money into depreciating assets that you can't afford is the very definition of being nigger rich, anonymous.

>>14903322
>no need to have BRAND new and waste money on NEW parts
Wait are you implying that you normally go to pick and pull to replace shit?

>>14904111
>what is a wife
XDXD

>>14904126
a majority of my needs, yes. Seals/gaskets/bearings/input sensors/tires are the only things i buy new.