What is the best radar detector on the market? A radar that is

Your eyes

no radar will save an idiot with this kind of thinking

it takes a knowladge of radio frequencies, your local police departments, and knowladge of all their radio and radar equipment and even then there is still no gaurentee

What car

>>14877325
>knowladge
I keep my eyes peeled all of time and constantly have my eyes crooked slightly to the left side to make sure I don't miss a cop. I'm not looking for a radar to save me, I'm looking for a radar to assist.

>>14877361
2016 Camaro 2SS.

Alot of cops shoot laser now, especially the HWY Patrol. Detectors that can detect laser basically just go off to let you know you're caught.

>>14877433

>assist

This. It is just another tool to keep aware. If your eyes drift off and you hear a beep then you are back on full alert. >>14877319

>>14877319
detectors are no good when cops are hiding behind concrete structures or earth berms
the cop only needs to get you on the way out

If you just bought a 2016 camero, then just get a V1 as you are not poor.

What state are you in?

>>14877589
I don't drive super highways. I live somewhat in the country and my main ride for to get to big concrete walls is roughly 60 miles. My highway is two lanes on each side and the cops have nowhere to hide. I just need to make sure I don't slip up at night or if I am not paying full attention during the day.

>>14877618
Just looked up some demo's of the V1 in action, that thing looks pretty stellar. Detected 2 cops 2 miles away apparently.

>>14877661
Mine has hit cops coming the opposite way 4 miles apart. This is on flat though.

Since you didnt specify you're state,
If you dont live in:
California
Colorado
Illinois
Minnesota
Nebraska
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington D.C

then you can also get a Blinder system to stop laser traps.

>>14877524
what are laser jammers?

>>14877693
Illegal in most states.

>>14877710
California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Virginia. The legality of laser jammers in Nebraska and Washington, D.C. is disputed.

Literally 9/50. Legal where I live.

>>14877741
its impossible to make laser jamming illegal

lasers are light

the FDA regulates light police have no say in the matter and cannot prosecute you for having lights on your vehicle much less prove that they were on when there were attempting to get a laser signal

>>14877755
Too bad.

>>14877755
Well, that is to bad because they are illegal in the states I listed above but in no way are they illegal in most states.

>>14877319
Just take your car to a track.

>>14877710
>2016
>still living in the united states
>not being strong and free

>>14877319
Escort Passport 9500ci

>>14878006
>culturally enriched

>>14877989
I don't want to track my car all the time, sometimes I just want to go fast down a freeway.

>>14878063
Then you accept the risk of injuring yourself and others, along with explaining to your parents on why you are getting a traffic court summons in the mail.

>>14878075
Why are you so defensive about people not wanting speeding tickets? Going ten or fifteen over isn't going to hurt anyone, much less going five over with the flow of traffic.

>>14878087
That was my first post in this thread. You won't get a ticket for +5 anyways, +10-15 is hit or miss.

All of those cases are not what a radar detector is for.

>>14877589

You're wrong.

OP, since most of the posts in here are fucking retarded, go look up the Escort Passport 9500ix. They're around $450-$500 and they have long range, GPS and all the bells and whistles. There might be something newer and bigger out there but it's a rock solid detector.

>>14877989
Tracks are expensive tho. Track days where I live cost $300+

>>14878075
>top speed threads go to bump limit
>radar detector threads filled with no fun allowed

>>14878075
It's not like I plan on blazing down the goddamn freeway going 170. I just want to be able to feel confident in going up to 105 or 110 for a few minutes at a time.

>>14878106

Seriously. And all the idiots with the "use your eyes, hurrdurr" as if you can see a cop parked on the side of the highway with is lights off two miles ahead in the dark. /o/ is filled with retarded children.

>>14878106
I don't browse /o/ often, but top speed threads are full of retarded high schoolers making shit up and/or trying to brag.

Just as stupid.

>>14878093
>You won't get a ticket for +5 anyways
Come to Edmonton for a few days and you'll change your mind about that. They've been known to give out tickets for 2km/h over the limit, although city council has told them not to.

>>14878099

Apparently they've dropped in price. $350 on the Escort website.

>>14877319
>all the dipshits in this thread

Escort Passport 9500ix. Short of the new Passport MAX, it's the best on the market, and I have tried them all

>>14877755
Wrong. Laser jammers technically fall under the FCC's jurisdiction, the FDA only regulates them in regards to health and safety.

And the FCC isn't shy on fining people for using jamming equipment. The average is $50,000.

>>14878155

Doesn't anyone Google?

http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html

>>14878155
>>14878162

Escort sells laser shifting systems now that they are becoming more popular with cops. If and when the police in NC ever switch to using lidar, it's going on all my cars

https://www.escortradar.com/lasershifterpro/

>>14878172

People in these threads always love to claim that everyone is using LIDAR these days, but as much driving as I've done around the country, I almost never see it used. I've been hit with it one time that I can recall, ever. Usually when I detect it, it's near an airport and there's no police around.

Unless they've made it as easy as a normal radar gun, I don't foresee it become that big of an issue in the near future.

>>14877319
Where I live Radar detectors are illegal, but by monitoring the RF band and the repeater input I can give myself a heads up because the cops where I live are chatty cathys.

>>14878196
Almost no police departments outside of Cali use Lidar for speed enforcement in any real capacity. Have actually talked to state police here in NC about it twice. They have a couple SUV's that have Lidar systems, but other than,

-It's expensive

-offers no real added benefit over traditional Ka band radar which is way cheaper

-because of legal reason, you can't use it in the rain/fog/snow for speed detection

>>14878222

And last I checked they have to be outside the vehicle and aim it like a rifle. Though that was a couple years ago so maybe it's changed. Only one that caught me was VASCAR and that was due mostly to the fact that I was exhausted after work and not paying attention.

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>All these retards ITT
>muh laser
>muh radar detector don't work

Amazing none of you asshats have ever owned a real radar detector. Keep talking out your ass. Anyone on /o/ who doesn't own a radar detector is either an idiot, or a poser.
>>14878233
You only encounter laser in speed traps like that, even then paying attention you can avoid almost all of them. Ten years, no tickets. LIDAR does alert if it hits the car next to you half the time, but yeah if you're not paying attention you're fucked be it laser or a cop turning on his radar or using POP
>>14877319
Escort 8500 or a better model from them with GPS
Valentine 1

Don't buy anything else. These things haven't changed in over 10 years man. What works, works.

>>14878196
>Usually when I detect it, it's near an airport and there's no police around.
That the control tower, false alarm. Escort? LIDAR use outside of interstates is rare and either way you can see the cop when they see you.

>>14878271

> either way you can see the cop when they see you.

Yeah they have to be standing next to their vehicle aiming the gun at you. That's why I don't think it's going to catch on. Like LPG said, Ka works great and 99% of drivers aren't using a detector anyway.

>>14878283
Which is how we can tell who is a retarded teenager in this thread. The real threat isn't lidar, it's fucking cops driving head on at you especially in the dark who flip their Ka/POP on when they are within a few hundred yards. Thats the real threat. Cops who leave their radar running while driving or just generally sitting on the side of the road clocking the "use your eyes" fags are easily picked up miles away.

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>>14878259
Back in the 80s, USAF aggressor pilots used modified Fuzzbuster detectors during training operations.

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Might as well get the scanner to, I Got some cheap cobra unit a while ago, hasn't saved me yet, but I started using less hot roads. The most it's done so far has let me know when they are lighting me up at red lights.

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>>14878393
Don't buy a shitty Cobra radar detector. A top of the line Escort 8500 can be had for $150 used or $280 used. That is the price of a ticket without insurance up yours. Don't be a cheapskate, your toy radar detector isn't worth shit.

>>14878437
*new

The arrows of a V1 are a joke, but the unit is tiny. If you want GPS Escort is the go to.

>>14878437
I have a "toy" radar detector and it does the job. It was like $80 new. Never been pulled with it on.

>>14878344
Isnt an air battle an easier scenario technically? You're not filtering out false positives, like on the road, nearly as much.

>>14878521
>radartests.com
Detection range is still shit and you get far more false alarms than a nicer radar with better filtering algorithms.

I mean it works, and is far better than nada, but like $300 new man. Come the fuck on.

>>14878536
>filtering out false positives
Don't speed through the city with automatic doors? I kinda figured that was a given. Otherwise X band is 99% shit turn it off if you know your local cops don't use it, only bum fuck rural sheriffs still have such old systems. K is usually garbage, where it goes off is what matters. Ka/POP/LIDAR is always SHTF freak out mode.

If false positives bug you and you aren't used to the daily ones or can't tell what is real or not get a unit with GPS.

I don't have GPS because it becomes second nature to evaluate whether the alarm is real or fake and either slam on the brakes or press mute.

>>14878542
I don't need great detection range. Roads don't go straight for more than a mile where I drive, and I can't go faster than the flow of traffic on the highway anyway.

I'm not going to spend $300 on something that I bought for $100 that does the exact same job. If I get a ticket with it on, then I'll buy, but until then there's no reason to.

>>14878563
I'm not the guy from before. I was just thinking about how it would technically an air battle would be an easier scenario.

>>14878564
There is more to it than detection range (which does matter despite what you think, weak signals bouncing off landscape can be picked up from miles away with a good detector) the speed at which the radar detector alerts also is dependent on "quality." head over to radar detector tests and do some reading, you'll probably sell yours and buy a decent used one for hardly 1.5x what you paid. The furthest signal I ever picked up was over 4 miles away on K band intermittent. That said my $300 radar saves my ass multiple times a week, for over a decade. Such a trivial investment in your future insurance rates.

>>14878705
You'tr not getting what I'm saying.

Mine works perfectly fine, and has for years. Until it no longer does it's job, there is literally no reason for me to waste money on something else.

>>14878728
>Until it no longer does it's job, there is literally no reason for me to waste money on something else
I get your point but gambling a ticket plus higher insurance rates is not worth simply forking over a bit of pocket change for the "top of the line" decade old tech. Financially, it is an unwise gamble. Any detector is better than none but they are very far from created equal. I mean, do you not have a few hundred bucks?

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Got pic related from a buddy for free but I don't really use it unless I'm getting on the interstate.

>>14878761
>a ticket plus higher insurance rates

I'm not gambling either. I'm gambling a $100 class and dropped ticket with no insurance hikes. Why would I spend 3x that for no reason?

>>14878793
>I'm gambling a $100 class and dropped ticket with no insurance hikes.
Thats a lot of gambling senpai. Either you don't speed or don't understand risk to reward. Or you are just way poor. I mean if $200 matters to you godspeed tripfag.

>>14878816
>risk to reward

I've been using this for years, so the risk is low and the reward is high.

And sure, I speed, and have some cash on hand.

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I'm looking into the Passport Max 360. Already have had the 9500IX and a V1 and like that it pretty much combines them while improving both features. I hated how many false alerts my V1 had but missed dem sweet sweet arrow.

>>14878849
>anecdotal experience vs objective fact
shiggidy

Why risk a ticket that may or may not get dropped, a fine that could be spent buying a better radar, and a potential increase in insurance rates? Let alone god forbid you had a few beers earlier or are speeding more than 10mph and can't hit the brakes in time to get to the "take a class" level speed.

You're being dumb man. Do what you want but its still asinine, take your burger flipping money you've saved up and buy a better radar, used if you can. Sell your shit radar to the next sucker who thinks like you and thank me next time you are amazed at how much better your new radar is than the children's toy you trusted your driving future to.

Or don't.

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>>14878868
>650 dollary dooss

heh


9500ix mustard rase

>>14878900
remote mute, awkward lean, or are you one of those auto-mute types? been meaning to buy a blend mount but lazy

>>14878563

K is still very commonly used by cops and in CA a couple years back I even saw one using X, freaked me the fuck out. GPS filters after three passes at the same location. So you're going to have an oh shit moment the first time probably. You can also manually lock out signals.

>>14878872
Why don't you own a $1k detector? They're better in every ways. Surely you're not poor? Or do you even speed?

You're being dumb man. Do what you want but its still asinine, take your burger flipping money you've saved up and buy a better radar, used if you can. Sell your shit radar to the next sucker who thinks like you and thank me next time you are amazed at how much better your new radar is than the children's toy you trusted your driving future to.

Or don't.

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>>14878910
automute and its not an awkward lean at all to push buttons

>>14878917
There is literally no difference between a $150 used X50 radar and a "$1k" radar dipshit. The integrated systems are outdated for radar sine 2005 and are essentially for LIDAR jamming now a days. More expensive radars simply have GPS systems with muting/auto-mute of repeat signals, they have no better range than the top tier shit of a decade past.

Come on tripfag, step up your burger flipping game. You are embarrassing yourself.

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>>14878917
>not having a 9500ci

>>14878944
yeah its about time I just get a 9500iX and do automute. maybe i'll sell my X50 to the naive tripfag.

>>14878957
Can I get that for a bike pzkthx

>>14878950
There is literally no difference in use between my radar and yours in the environment I drive it. Mine does the job. I'm not risking anything, and you keep saying I am, which isn't true.

>>14878101
>not having a local drag strip where you can run your car for as many times as you feel like waiting in line for $20

>>14878965
>There is literally no difference in use between my radar and yours in the environment I drive it.
horseshit, you are speculating. objectively false. but do justify your poverty however you see fit. I mean, $150-300 whole United States Dollars. Lordy lordy. What do you drive EBT card holder?

>>14878962
ye, also its not a blend mount, just the windshield mount with a wire tap to suck power out of my mirror

>>14878979
I have focus I'm about to baja blast, and a scion TC. On top of the F150 for dirty jobs.

>ebt

Dude I work in STEM. Through out all the insults you want, but there's no reason for me to buy a radar detector when mine does the job. As I said, when it doesn't, I'll get a new one. And that ticket won't risk my insurance or be pricey, cause there's classes for that.

>>14878222
You're an idiot. LIDAR systems are just as cheap as RADAR. They are FAR more accurate - there is no question about which target you are hitting. You can detect the speed of a target (if LOS allows) over 2 miles away (needs to be very reflective, but still possible).

The ONLY disadvantage to LIDAR is that you cannot use it while moving.

Your comment about weather making it unusable due to "legal reason" - case law - is bullshit. There is no case law in regard to that. And if there were, it would be state-by-state.

>>14878233
Wrong as fuck.

>>14878259
Nobody uses POP. Instant on is not POP.

LIDAR is largely in use depending on where you live. A detector is damn near useless. If you don't SEE the cop and react before he pegs you, you're fucked. RADAR is much easier to detect, but even a cognizant officer can catch speeders with detectors easily.

>>14878563
GPS detectors are far better than dumbass ones without it. I have many signals locked out that are bullshit. Convenience is king and not having to press the fucking mute button every time I come up on a dumbass bogus source is worth it.

X is still used, heavily in Ohio by highway patrol.

K is still used heavily as well, mostly by county folks.

>source: RADAR/LIDAR certified, Passport Max 360 owner.

>>14879021
in addition...

Best LIDAR defense? Have a dark colored vehicle. Don't have halogen reflector headlights. Don't have a front license plate (ding ding, that is their target - it is easy to see but more importantly REFLECTIVE). Use a laser jammer? Sort of illegal, maybe... it's a light source shifter/jammer - light is not regulated. RADAR jammers are definitely illegal and regulated.

Here's an idea

don't speed

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>>14879042
good one

>>14879002
Oh I mean for my car, blend mount + 9500iX so I don't have to awkwardly reach up all time. I'm use to everything K/Ka/POP/LIDAR alerting and use the cigarette lighter cord which I can touch with my thumb without moving my hand from the shifter. My new car the lighter is on the wrong side so not so smooth.
>>14879011
Then you understand you are using a marginal tool for the job and it is inferior to very affordable options and that by doing so you are risking your time, money, and possibly freedom. Over a few hundred dollars. Are you a chemistry major or something? Why on earth would you not buy the best product that performs at the top level?
>>14879021
No, POP is absolutely used where I live. I have no idea if they pull people over with it but I detect it often in my locale, and only my locale.
>Ohio
Like I said, bum fuck middle of nowhere

>>14879051
Why would I spend more when less works just fine? No, I'm a CS major.

>>14878965

ADAPTIV TPX is the way to go for a Bike breh. Got neat little LED unit inside my helmet which alerts me to the threat as well.

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>>14879047

>>14879092
>Why would I spend more when less works just fine?
It's objectively shown to not be as effective, you just don't know what you are missing out on. Whatever, save your shekels bud. Don't come crying to me when some years in the future you get fucked hard.
>>14879104
I've read those suck hard and have shit range. Are they actually decent?

While we're on the topic of laws, is there such a thing as a noise law when it comes to RPMs? I have a honda boyracer and when merging onto highways when nobody's letting me in, I have to go quite high, 5-6K. My third gear is so long compared to second, unless I rev that high I won't be able to make up for it when I shift.

>>14879115
What's causing the noise is irrelevant. All that matters is the decibels.

>>14878075
>Highway has zero cars on it save for you and the cop on the shoulder
>Large grass median separating each way
>It's a wonder of civil engineering. No blind corners, good visibility, well maintained
>minimum three lanes
>Entrances are long, visible, and level with the road early, merging lanes last extra long, but you won't need to worry, because few people take this route
>NOT A MILE OVER SIXTY YOUNG MAN THAT'S DANGEROUS

>>14879115
Not if you have stock exhaust that doesn't have a hole in it. If you have a fart can then you'd best google it. In a lot of states (and for all motorcycles) aftermarket exhaust is illegal. If the local cops have a law against it they can enforce is a different story.

>>14879113
Explain to me how I'll get "fucked hard"

you keep saying it, but it's not a reality.

>>14879171
You're a man of science. Surely you understand that if your radar is only 99% as good as the best choices, you are eventually going to get a late alert you could have avoided. This is a numbers game. And trust me, your Cobra sucks cock, you just don't know. Objective evidence of its terrible reaction time, excessive false alarms that numb you to real shit, and pathetic range may be found tested in a true scientific enviroment. If you wish to use second class equipment that is inferior, power to you, but for such a minimal opportunity cost a decent radar that will last a decade is well worth it. There is no reason to cheap out here unless you are poor as shit.

and that is all I have to say about that. this isn't some debate of luxury, this is objective matter of superior performance. if as a man of science you can't interpret the readily available results power to you and may anecdotal experiences drive your future should you not be living hand to mouth.

>>14878093
I've only ever been ticketed once, I was going 9 over, and every anon here told me I was being an entitled idiot for being disappointed

I could see the appeal of a radar detector for someone trying to keep a clean record

>>14879227
Hey, buy a better car. Yours works fine and you like it, but spend more for no reason.

My god you're a fucking retard. Shills have invaded /o/

I'm a dealer for Escort and usually install 9500ci's in 911's, ask me whatever

>>14879113

Outperforms the Bel STi I had previously in every way. I ride in twisty terrain and very rarely on highways, so YMMV.

>>14879021

LIDAR is not a magic bullet. If you're all alone on the road, yeah you're fucked, if you're in a pack then LIDAR is going to be worthless.

There is nothing "wrong as fuck" in my post at all. If there is, please try and explain because LIDAR is still an outside use gun the last I checked.

>>14879582
>if you're in a pack then LIDAR is going to be worthless
Three speeding tickets I got last summer say otherwise.

>>14879588

Did you argue it in court? If a group of cars are clustered together and the cop is hitting you, or the guy next to you with LIDAR at any distance there is going to be a doubt as to the accuracy of who should have gotten pulled over. Lidar, IIRC, needs a decent reflective surface to work properly.

>>14879599
They shoot from behind at close range. No point arguing in court over it when it's just a fine.

>>14877755
>>14878155
>cant prosecute you for having lights on your vehicle

Well just go put red and blue strob LEDs on your car and fly through traffic senpai. Afterall they cant prosecute you right?

>>14877693
>>14877710
Also in the uk, if your car throws an error on a laser trap it will take a picture and record the error, which then has the potential to be investigated which involes car seizure to test. You get the car back, but with a hefty fine or even prison.

One thing im not sure about though is the legality of anti laser paint and filtering films on the headlights

>>14879092
Because it DOESN'T WORK FINE. You need to accept that some measure of luck is involved as well, and your hasn't run out yet.

You should get a 9500ix and run it alongside your Cobra for a few days, you'll understand soon enough. Even ignoring the false alert filtering and smart cord, it is simply a much more sensitive detector. It is objectively much better equipment.

>>14879171
If you actually get pulled over with a detector running in the car, the cop will write you the max fine for every possible violation.

Your 11 MPH over isn't getting knocked down, oh and you get a ticket for dirty license plate and another obstructed windshield or whatever he can come up with.

Go ahead, take it to court, but once the judge reads in the report that you had a detector it's the same story there.

You are playing with fire.

>>14879599
Many courts though will take into consideration the officers' testimony that the pack of cars was traveling together, especially if the ticket was knocked down from the actual clocked speed.