>tfw actually debating on getting a miata because of its light

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>>14433592
buy a real sports car op

>tfw actually debating on being open about my homosexuality
FTFY

they dont even handle well

theyre just light and slow

>miata
>handling
>le insane body roll and 100hp meme

>>14433592
MIATA
Is
Always
The
Answer

>>14433592
I can't get rid of mine.
Dropped the price down to $3000
Not even a bite

But they are fun to drive

>>14433592
What year are you talking about?

>>14433666
whichever year the NAs are. wishbones, under 2500lbs, and they're cheap to get. i just wish they weren't convertibles...

>>14433832
>i just wish they weren't convertibles
Don't do it.
You'll hate it.
I made the compromise and thought it wouldn't be that bad.
It is THAT bad.

>>14433832
Hardtop is an option, although it won't be the same thing as a real roof.

>>14433832
NAs aren't fast and don't really handle that good. They're fun to drive don't get me wrong, but a Focus SVT would blow an NA out of the water and is even faster and better handling than a NB.

>>14433849
>>14433644
>>14433617
Where the hell is this "miatas don't handle well" stuff coming from?

>>14433856
Ford shills

>>14433856
From the numbers they put down. They're fun and controllable but have overall relatively low limits.

>>14433860
http://www.motortrend.com/news/mazda-miata-toyota-mr2-spyder/
http://www.stangbangers.com/02_FocusSVTvsCompetition_Article.htm
>The truth is shilling.

>>14433871
Wouldn't that just be due to the tires and relatively soft stock suspension? Those things are easily fixed. Suspension geometry being good is what you want.

>>14433838
>>14433840
>>14433849
>>14433856
>>14433860
>>14433871
my other choices were an rx8 and 370z for roofs though, and they both have their problems (weight/reliability). i'm just stuck on what car to pick that has a solid balance in suspension control, frame stiffness, weight distribution, and cost. honestly if the NA had a solid roof i would have taken it instantly. fuck man.

>>14433888
So RX7 seems to be your answer

>>14433897
rx7s are expensive as hell though. they don't go under 10k no matter the condition.

>>14433880
There are many other cars where the suspension geometry is good.
The miata is overrated

>>14433912
Even FC? Or SA22?

>>14433912
An N/A FC with a blown engine should be cheaply attainable. If OP can afford a 370z he can afford to turbo rotary swap it and freshen up/tune the suspension.

>>14433914
I see you've never driven a miata

>>14433914
Are they as cheap, easy to work on, and reliable as the miata?

>>14433918
how the hell would i be able to turbo rotary swap an rx7 when i'm too busy shitposting on /o/?

>>14433920
I have, there's a lot better in the price range.
>>14433929
Yes.

>>14433977
Dissagree

>>14433984
>disagree
K? The miata was good when you. Old buy a mint 1.8 for $1500 or so, but dumbass car mags and reviewers hyped it up and now the market is fucked and the car is no longer worth the price

>>14433977
What are these cheap, reliable, easy to work on cars that possess good suspension geometry?

>>14433992
Prolly most 80s and 90s honda

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>>14434022

>>14434046
seriously?

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>>14434065

another thing i found

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>>14434076
It's not bait you troll

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NA Miatas are old now. Some test drives are shit because the car has 150k miles on it and haven't been touched or there's something wrong with it etc. If you go drive a WELL SETUP one that hasn't been fucked over then you will love it.

The miata may be mediocre for a sports car, but believe me when I say that it has one of the largest and most supportive fanbases out there. Any problem, any part, most likely has a solution already posted in a forum thread somewhere.

The aftermarket is so fucking huge and competitive that the prices are ridiculously cheap. A NEW year specific miata turbo kit from BEGi can be bought for like $3k or something and make 230 at the wheel reliably. You don't even have to touch the engine or harness to do it it's so easy. That's just the power aspect of the miata. The suspension and chassis stuff is just as available and cheap. You can buy frame rails for about $100 and then the rest of the sway bars for $300. That includes bushings for the end links and bar.

Like I said, it may be shit stock but it's potential is there.

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>>14434148
Prove it

>>14433880
>>14433871
Except all you need to do to improve those numbers are 205/50/15 Direzza Star Specs on 15x8 wheels and as much camber as you can personally tolerate.

They suck ass out the box. If the Miata was as shitty as people make it out to be it wouldn't be so common on race tracks and motorsports. I would personally never pay over $3-4000 for a NA/NB

>>14434162
How

>>14433592
I'm trying to get my sister to get one.

>>14434022
M8

>>14434198
What

>>14434198
>>14434046
He's completely right you know.

>b-but muh RWD meme
>muh hairdresser car

>>14434290
You are suggesting cars literally designed as commuter cars. Sure, an EK hatch SI may pop up very rarely, but it will have been molested to hell and back. Not to mention ridiculous sporty honda tax.

Miatas are a fun car and with tires and minimal work.
Not much from the 90s will compete with its modern day counterparts. So while they have the fag tax discount applied to them they are a great deal for a little fun roadster

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>>14434290
>He's completely right you know

>>14434307
The question was what car has fundamentally good suspension geometry. The EF-EK fit that descriptor.

>>14434342
>cheap, easy to work on, and reliable as the miata
Last 2 yes, first one no.

You can sometimes find them but I think you guys underestimate Honda fanboys and how many shitboxes are overpriced right now.

>>14434342

It does

The Miata is still more fun because you can throttle steer and drift it.

>>14434347
They are, when you find one that isn't run into the ground. Miatas were mostly second cars that were well taken care of.

Front Wheel Bearings and Motor Mounts (specifically the rear T-Bracket one) aside everything to do on my Hondas has been piss easy.

>>14434539
No no, I said yes to the last two. Finding a cheap , decenrly sporty honda worth owning is the hard part.

>>14434571
I never understood this:

Literally every 88-00 Civic and 90-01 Integra. They made literally hundreds of thousands if not a million in 10+ years, its the 21st Century '32 Ford/'40 Willys/'57 Bel Air.

Are they getting harder to find? Sure; especially if you want a 92-95 car (OBD1; but built during a time of notoriously poor rustproofing/paint due to a rushed switch to water based paint) or if you live in the Northeast/Midwest (rust)

Can you still find them? Very easily; no excuses if you live in a large area where they were sold new (California and the Northeast). You might have to find a automatic and swap it. Or you might have to buy one already swapped with work done to it and fix whatever stupid fucking problems come up as you own it.

That said I've had 5 already; fun but I still wish I had my Miata.

>>14434409
You underestimate miata fanboys

is there any car that's under 2500lbs, has a stiff frame, has a double wishbone suspension, and it under 5k used? i'm pretty sure there's nothing that fits this bracket.

>>14434864
most 80s-90s honda
also miata isnt stiff

>>14434864
No;

Anything with a stiff chassis would be built after 2000 at the very minimum late 1990s. A "Honda DOES NOT have a stiff chassis; only "stiff enough" (key difference, chassis stiffness and weight are directly proportional; more weight = more rigidity, most of the weight gain from newer cars has been in passive safety IE stiffer unibodies and chassises).

Anything built after 2000 with a double wishbone suspension would be a very small minority of cars; even without the $5k used limit.

None of those cars are under 2500lbs; except for maybe a NC/ND Miata. A C5 Corvette/RX-8 could come close but those are 500-600lbs heavier. IS300 could come close too but doesn't have good steering/chassis feedback; IMO.

Buy a motorcycle. None of what you want in a car actually matters. I suggest a nice 5-10 year old R6/CBR600RR. Get a nice little commuter with the money left over; like a 10-15 year old Corolla/Civic/Camry. Throw a tow hitch on it and go to the track with the bike.

>>14434903
A 80s-90s Honda is not stiff at all. You're absolutely idiotic if you think its anywhere close to stiff. I've totaled out a 92 Civic Sedan from rear ending and sliding under a CRV at 15-20mph. The torque box on the pass side frame rail was tweaked, pass door was noticeably harder to shut.

They are STIFF ENOUGH for their weight; Not stiff at all. Its why the DC2R gained a ton of chassis rigidity crap (thicker sheetmetal on strut towers, additional gussets and welds on wheel arches and suspension points, even thicker roof rails) compared to a regular 94-01 Integra.

At the end of the day "rigidity" is a meme. You'll likely never reach a level where getting car X over Y is better because you can notice how much stiffer it is. A stiffer car only really helps in crash test ratings and noise/vibration reduction.

>>14434979

uh
no
have you ever driven a car to its limit
>>14434930
>>14434930
this is a moronic post

>>14434991
corey fuck off back to /ovg/

>>14434930
>GET A MOTORCYCLE INSTEAD OF A CAR
>THESE THINGS ARE EQUIVALENT
you're a pain in the ass, nobody fucking wants it

I want am nb because its the best looking miata. Is their any known issues with it? I'm getting either a 5 or 6 speed

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>>14435002
You're literally asking

>I WANT A TUBE CHASSIS RACE CAR THAT COSTS NOTHING TO MAINTAIN AND IS FASTER THAN A NEW GTR FOR UNDER $5000

Just buy a motorcycle you delusional fuck. Alternatively, buy a 20 year old Miata/Civic like everyone else and put a cage in it. Done, there's your answer. No need to worry about having a "stiff frame" when it has a fucking roll cage. Sack up bitch; you want a race car? Put a cage in it.

>>14435028
>Tube chassis
>nothing to maintain
how bout a built 22RE, last I heard people could still make those fuckers spit out 3-400 HP after a million miles of turbo hooning.

>>14435028

I never fucking said that. What the hell are you talking about? stop making shit up.

>>14435068
>Not Double Wishbone
>Comes in 1980s pickups and trucks that are definitely not under 2500lbs

I actually felt like I answered the question pretty damn well. He's asking for a impossible combination. Maybe if he gets lucky he'll pull a salvage title NC Miata or crashed Elise.

>>14435082
are you insane
do you know anything at all about cars

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>>14435074
>>14435091

So when are you gonna get a racebike?

>>14435094
i dont want to race bikes
why do bike people have to be so obnoxious?

>>14435082
2800LBS is the ballpark weight for a 2WD Std. Cab Toyota P/U
Besides I was suggesting you drop a 22R/22RE into a tube chassis, the trans is more bulletproof than the engine and there is a massive aftermarket for the R series.

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>>14435100
Then stick to being slow. Maybe one day you'll actually go to a race track. I have more respect for this 18 year old kid taking his parent's Chrysler 200 to a trackday than anyone ITT who hasn't even stepped foot on one.

>>14435107
Actually a pretty cool idea. I'd personally go with a junkyard truck LSx for simplicity's sake.

>>14435107
I forgot to add, pre 95s when stripped can come out to 24-2600 depending on what cab you have and how far you are willing to go.

>>14434307
>thinking the mx5 wasn't designed as a commuter car for hairdressers
>thinking the mx5 as standard isn't a weak slow floppy sloppy piece of shit

>>14435115
>hurr you're slow for driving cars
what is your problem? i have said nothing mean to you but you keep being so hostile over the fact i'm not into the same stuff you are

>>14435124

fuck you

go to any event on this page in your shitbox then come back

i'll even take conefaggotry over a actual road course event

http://www.motorsportreg.com/

>>14435115
Yeah it would be easier to push more power out of an LS with a more thriving community with modern/current usage.
>>14435124
>Being angry on a Zimbabwean hikkimiori child soldier training board
>[Current Year]
Just close the tab nigga, go outside.

>>14435143
what is your problem? why are you even saying this?

>>14433912
are you sure you mean a 370Z considering you're afraid of going over 10k?
you might need a 350Z.

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MX5 is pure garbage stock, even with a decent amount of modifications its still nothing special.
The retards who think they are the holy grail of cheap cars are delusional fools whose only experience before buying their floppy gutless rusted piece of shit was most likely in a fullsize truck from the 80s or equally shitty cant turn americar.

>>14435121
Mx5 was literally designed as mazda's take on British roadsters.

>>14435312
name something better

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>>14435312
Who cares, the guy in the Miata was having way way way more fun than the guy in the GT40 putting around.

>>14435329
600cc Sportbike

Yamaha R6.

>>14435329
Literally any actual sports car from 80s/90s japan

>>14435341
>sport bike
Why do you keep recommending bikes to people who don't want them

>>14435341
>the guy in the Miata was having way way way more fun than the guy in the GT40 putting around.
Yeah, because you know how what either guy in that webm who you have never ever met were thinking right?

>MUH SMILES PER MILES
Delusional MX5 justification #1

>>14435343
Nope. wrong.
name something better for the price

>>14435312
So after sliding at speed you expect the car not to wiggle a little? It's not exactly race-spec suspension stock. The point is that it's a fantastic platform.

>>14434864
>miata is stiff
a foxbody is more rigid

>>14435353
then why do the japanese prefer to use EF, EG, and EK civics to tune as opposed to miatas?

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>>14435352
Literally any sports car from 80s/90s japan.

Prove its the best car available then? Idk. Yorue the delusional retard trying to convince me the MX5 isnt a total piece of shit after all

>>14435341
saying sportsbike is basically the same as saying you don't know. if you asked for a bike that could take corners with twice as much grip i'd say get a car. would you think that's fair?

>>14435380
>integra type r
>less than 3k
what
There is nothing better you can get for the price dude.

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>>14435345
Because you want to go the fastest way around a race track with minimal cost/effort.

At least with the sportbike you can quit blaming your "setup/car" and blame yourself when you run out of talent.

>>14435351
>Delusion
>posts vid of a guy sliding around like a mad cunt and recovering after a GT40 putts around
>THAT GUY WASN'T HAVING FUN HOW DARE YOU THINK HE'S HAVING FUN HE WASN'T FUCKING HAVING FUN

yeah ok lol

miatas are fun i had one along with a bunch of "better" cars. probably the closest in terms of response/communication to a motorcycle on four wheels

>>14435352
Kawasaki ZX6R

>>14435391
No i want a car. Fuck off I don't want a bike. Why do you keep being so hostile and mean for no reason

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>>14435386
>less than 3k
Sorry, miatas arent that cheap unless its a total and utter complete piece of shit that isnt even worth buying
From 6k to 5k to 3k, can you desperate faggots at least settle on an actual figure?

Get an E36, OP. I've owned a Miata and two M3's and the M3 handles better. Plus it's more practical and way more powerful. And it's easy to work on. You can find plenty of writeups online for any job work you need to do.

There's also the RX-7, Starion, Celica, MR2, 240SX, and 350Z.

>>14435415
i actually thought of the e24. how does it compare?

>>14435391
>posts vid of a guy struggling to maintain control of his floppy slow piece of shit hairdresser car
FTFY

again, MUH FUNNN!! is a poor justification for owning a shit car. sorry about the facts

>>14435414
Are you high? there are plenty of good cars for less than 3k that are in great condition. Miata is just the best you can get
I have not changed the price point at all, it was always less than 3k.

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>>14435396
Because you'll never set foot on a race track and join the big leagues instead choosing to keep driving like a idiot in your cobbled together shitbox endangering the public legitimately thinking real life is like your chinese cartoons and you're re-enacting a Best Motoring Video.

Just get a bike and save yourself the time and effort.

>>14435386
>>14435385
you can find a nice 600 for $3k

>>14435414
they can't because they're /ovg/ shitposters who have never set foot on a real racetrack let alone participated in any kind of motorsports event

>>14435429
>le shit car meme

are you parroting chris harris? you're not chris harris. they're fun cars, too bad. its not like you're competing in a actual race class and need the higher limits you'll never reach because you fucking suck dick at driving

>>14435431
lol ,its literally impossible to buy a miata for less than 5k
ask corey

>it was always less than 3k
where was that said? please stop with goal post moving damage control. just deal with the fact you are delsuional mx5 fanboy who doesnt know any better and get on with your life

>>14435442
I don't understand.
You keep dancing around the question but never want to answer it.
>>14435440
Uh, that's wrong? I prefer to drive cars. Why are you being so unreasonable for no reason

>>14435440
>all this projection
Yeah, the faggot talking about MUH TRACK DAYS YOURE ALL SHIT while posting photos of random people riding bikes is the love child of senna and rossi

Miata is shit. Youre a faggot. Deal with it/

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>>14435447
I already answered it
Literally any sports car from 80s/90s Japan
I even posted two examples ;^)

>>14435470
what did you post? you can't buy those for less than 3k, you're lucky to get a type r for less than 10k
why are you treating me so awfully?

>>14435475
> less than 3k
You can't buy a miata for that cheap either I check my local cl every day and they're all 5k+

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>>14435450

So when are you going to the track?

You can go in a Toyota Camry if you just want to learn. You can buy a sportbike if you want to go as fast as possible around a circuit. That's all you care about right? Speed? You can get a used Suzuki Hayabusa that'll do 190mph for under $5000.

>>14435475
im going to stick it in your yaoi hole corey if you keep making these threads

>>14435378
Because honda makes god tier engines and chassis, but they got the good ones there.

>>14435479
nah, i see a few here and there for around 3k, the more 'riced out' ones are that, you can find the cheaper more stock-like ones for 2.5k. of course, why would you want a miata in fucking pothole city idk why

>>14435479
That's not true, I can buy a really good 1990 miata for $2500
besides, type r is just not in the same range either way

the problem with the miata is that there's almost nothing else thats

- as fun to drive
- as cheap
- as reliable
- as easy to work on
- as common

all at once.

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>>14435485
Tracks are shit and for try hard weekend warriors. Real men race public roads and avoid Bitch ass safe zones
Besides I get kicked out of track within 5 minutes for being too hectic

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>miatas don't handle well
what the fuck am I reading kek

>>14435519
See >>14435312

>>14435516
this is true

>>14435522
>a bunch of baseless here-say
nice

>>14435516
Lol miata fags are actually this delusional
But what do you expect from the kind of people who make comments on YouTube saying they are better than a 911 turbo because muh feels

>>14435479

stop looking at the mint examples. Buy a ratty miata that might have a few paint scratches, high mileage and perhaps a bit of surface rust. Bam, $2k. You're taking it to the track, not out on a date.

>>14435627
So take a rusted out piece of shit on the track? That's so irresponsible and dangerous

>>14435353
uh no.. a good setup car wouldn't do that at all.

>>14435632
>>14435632

but thats not even true
you can buy mint miatas for 3k

>>14435632
>rusted out

yes

if it can pass a state safety inspection it can pass a race car technical inspection 99% of the time

keep posting corey and im going to fuck you in the anus

>>14435380

finding a cheap jap from the 80's/90's is easy. It just doesn't compare to the prices you'll get for spare parts on a Miata. Unless you live near Vancouver where you can get cheap parts from across the Pacific, good luck finding cheap spare parts.

>>14435661

But that's not even true. There's no reason to resort to that. I don't think I've ever even seen a rusty miata

>>14435661
A 3k miata isn't going to pass any kind of inspection unless it's a "is this car ahit inspection"

>>14435682
wrong
that is insane, you must live in australia or russia or some shit

>>14435739
No I live in the real world
Show me this abundance of 3k miatas in perfect Condition please. In fact just try show me one

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>>14435748

>>14435748
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5442844965.html

>>14435784
> new paint job
Looks like total shit

> 'new' engine and everything else
Yeah totally isn't a shit box ready to blow again

>>14435794
> electrical issues
>"all normal maintenance recently done" (anyone with half a brain knows this is a red flag)
> Koreatown
Try again

>>14433962
Git gud

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>>14435801
you're looking really dumb right now

>miata is fun
never understood this meme. it's so fucking slow and loud inside.
and not the good kind of loud, just the sound of wind from a shitty soft top loud
or the creak of a hard top loud.

>>14435343
So, Miata?

>>14435845
Yes says the person posting poor quality photos and claiming the car is in perfect condition. Have you ever bought a used car before? Probably not you're just a typical miata faggot with zero experience in anything you talk about :^)

>>14435859
it's Miata is fun not Miata is quiet and rattlefree

>>14435649
>setup is the same as platform

>>14435882
Dude just leave, your shitposting isn't going to help OP or convince any miata lovers otherwise