Gasoline is officially dirt cheap, why aren't you driving

Because $2.85 for regular is not dirt cheap.

>>14257461
fuel inefficiency isn't the only fault of rotary

>>14257486
It literally is the only fault

>>14257508
Apex seals
Dirty emissions
Lack of torque
Higher maintenance

Because motor oil and apex seals aren't.

> direct oil injection
> clapping hands.jpg

>>14257508
Emmisions are barbaric
Drinks oil like a lawn mower
17 mpg 230 hp STRAIGHT TO THE TRASH

>>14257461
Don't rotates burn oil?

What makes the RX-7 superior to the RX-8?

I've seen some 8's on craigslist for dirt cheap. Are they worth it?

>>14257519
>Apex seals
Hardly call that an issue.
>Dirty emissions
No more than any other cars
>Lack of torque
Go look at a dyno. Has plenty of torque through the range
>Higher maintenance
Like what?

>>14257461
Because rotaries are trash. Rebuilding your engine every 70k miles is a fucking joke.

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>>14257519
>muh torks

>>14257541
>Emmisions are barbaric
No
>Drinks oil like a lawn mower
Not as much as BMWs or mercs or Toyotas or many many piston engines do NEW

>>14257548
All of what you just said was bullshit. Apex seals are a BITCH. Emissions are GARBAGE. And the maintenence schedule is atrocious

>>14257554
>>14257548
>torque doesn't matter
>feels like shit anywhere else but track

>>14257551
Better than owning a new sbc and having to buy a new engine every 700 miles bevause nothing salvageable from the one that just exploded into a hundred little pieces

>>14257558
So burning oil is clean? So terrible gas seals and unburned gas is clean? Shut the fuck up. There is NO way it burns more oil than my yota. Because it DOESN'T BURN OIL

>>14257551
>he listens to internet memes
It's way more than 70k moron
>>14257560
Lol what
1 day rebuild every 10 to 15 years is SUCH A BITCH!!!
Maintenance is normal. As is emissions
>caring about emissions

>>14257461
as a weekend toy these are great.
probably undervalued to be honest.
anything else on this level is high maintenance too.

>>14257558
Lol this
You should never ever have to top up oil in a rotsry
Read a honda or bmw owners manual it will say adding a quart every 1k miles is "normal" even though they don't burn oil purposely by design

>>14257565
> peak torque made on sequential turbo rotaries at 3k and carried alk way to redline
>"but huur duur it doesn't have as much torkz as this diesel engine that revs half as high"
Can you just get off this board please?

>>14257581
More like one week and hundreds of dollars every 5 years driving the bare minimum.

Maintenance and emissions are fucking shit

>>14257595
Riiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt

>>14257592
It injects oil directly into the rotor housing and also into the fuel. Quit lying

>>14257595
Have you ever owned a rotary? Nope?
Then shut the fuck up and stop regurgitating conjecture you stupid cunt

>"bbbut /o/ said!"

>>14257600
Go buy an rx and be slower than me with less amenities for more money. Be my guest.

>giving a shit about maintenance costs
>giving a shit about fuel efficiency

kek

go drive your prius you fucking plebs.

>adub owner, do kinda want a rx7.

>>14257615
I've owned like 35 of them.
Best cars I've ever owned.

>>14257612
I wanted a rotary as much as any other enthusiast. The difference is I'm not delusional. They dead for a reason

>>14257605
That's what I said, and they still burn less oil than bmws Hondas audis vws toyota etc
Never once do I have to top up oil in my rotsry. I top my mitsubishi 4g64 and Buick 3800 up every week it seems

>>14257592
>explodes
>rebuilds are considered "regular maintenance"
>think f/i is good

>>14257581
Rebuilding a v8 doesn't take any longer than a day and they last for millions of miles.

>>14257619
>also owner of a motorbike that needs oil and filter every 1000k

>>14257581
anon last night was on motor two at 140k. my neighbors died at a little under 80k. rotaries are fucking shit stop drinking the kool aid faggot.

>>14257626
> they are dead for a reason
Emissions regulations and nothing else
Emissions regulations are bullshit, a 2jz or f20c wouldn't pass emissions regulations

What's your point faggot?

>>14257612
Have you owned a rotary? Nope?
Then shut the fuck up and stop regurgitating conjecture you stupid cunt. Rotaries are dead because they blow. Only fags like you think rebuilding an engine is an acceptable maintenance task. Its not.

>>14257636
Mine was at 30 years old 260k and still strong
you mad faggot?

At least it isn't a corvette engine which shits the bed every 1k miles

>>14257636
Turbo FD that gets driven hard. Yeah.
23 years and only rebuilt once.
That's not bad
Mine was over 200k when I sold it still running strong

>>14257519
SAVAGE

>>14257653
Then why do people put Corvette engines in RX7s to make them more economical, more reliable and on top of it all, faster?

>i'm an auto enthusiast who likes going fast, yeaah!
>but number 1 priority is fuel efficiency
>#2 is maintenance costs

kek

sure you're an enthusiasts, go get your practical car you plebs and leave the actual fun cars to us people who actually like cars.

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Because I can't find a RX-7 or RX-8 that won't require a complete rebuild or hasn't been hooned to shit.

In my area, every single RX-8 for sale has been owned by a woman as a family car. I went to one listing, asked basic things like "How often did you change the oil?". Her answer was "every 10k miles".

Started up the car and it was sputtering and making awful noises. She said it was "normal".

>>14257461
i want one pretty badly but i got my project "race" car (z32) draining my wallet.

if i were to get one it would just sit till im done with the z32 and even then it would be a garage queen.

i really want an fd but the owners know what they got. but im willing to settle for the fc.

but i dont know jack shit about brotaries. whats the best engine? or can they all get turboed?

>>14257653
>>14257669
REKT
E
K
T

>>14257653
>>14257658
RX8. Sorry, rotaries are trash and everyone knows this. 200k is not something to be proud of anyways. Besides, you got lucky. Most rotary owners are not. Only delusional fucks who get a hard on for a meme engine would even bother arguing otherwise. The wankel is a poor engine design inherently and nothing can ever be done about that.

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>>14257651
Yes
Now get the fuck out faggot

> huur duur a 5 minute oil change is hard
> huur duur 5 minute spark plug change is hard
> huur duur an afternoon rebuild every 30 years is hard

pro tip faggot, every engine needs to be rebuilt sooner or later
Strangely enough performance engines have little intervals :^)

>>14257545
Nope

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>>14257461
Is it Aussie shitposting hour already?

>>14257669
Daily reminder the fastest rx7s are rotary powered

>>14257670
>>14257682
Actually liking cars doesn't mean pissing money away on a flawed motor design. Sorry. Wankel a shit. Catastrophic failure should not be the norm for anything but a race car. If you wish to piss money and time away on a chinsy motor always a turn away from death power to you but don't think you aren't a naive fool.

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>>14257679
>I'm mad cuz I'm ignorant!!!!
>waaaaaahhhhh

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>>14257461

Because I;m not autistic.

>>14257682
> huur duur an afternoon rebuild every 30 years is hard
Maybe if you don't drive it. And even then I'd be more concerned with the rust.

>>14257670
>engineering a 500 hp 3300 vette to have 28 mpg
>200hp rx has 10mpg and is dead unreliable
Fuck outta here

>>14257701
> catastrophic failure
Good thing this doesn't happen with rotaries then
Enjoy shitting a rod out the block or dropping a valv and being straight fed on the side of the road. If an apex seals gets munched I can still drive home

> bbbut piston engines never ever have problems!

if fuel efficiency and maintenance costs come into your selection criteria for a fun car you probably shouldn't consider yourself an enthusiast.

>>14257701
>flawed motor design
What's flawed?
How often do they blow up?
Show me some proof.
Oh you can't?
Go cry some more because you have zero clue as to what you're talking about

Piston cucks use the word "rebuild" like it's surgery without anesthesia. The 13b is light and simple compared to a 800 pound over-complicated piston engine.

A rotary "rebuild" is replacing the apex seals, and cleaning up the rotors and housing a bit that's it.

>>14257461
But I am driving a rotary, OP. It's been my DD for more than 3 years now.

No car piston cucks getting btfo as usual

How hard is it to do an engine rebuild on one of these things?

I don't own a car, I'm buying a Miata as my first project car, and Fiesta ST as a DD... so I'm relatively new to these things.

>cuck cuck cuck muh enthusiast cuck cuck cuck
jesus christ rotaryfags are pathetic

>>14257737
If you aren't like the piston cucks itt and actually have a working brain, simple as fuck
Even a little girl can do it

>>14257737
Rotaries are literally the easiest engines to rebuild.

>gas is cheap
>why aren't you driving a 30.000'00$ euro car

>>14257725
+1

shits stupid simple from the looks of it

and pretty easy to get more power from them too from the looks of it.

>>14257741
> cuck said once
> getting this mad
Stay blown the fuck out poorfag no car piston cuck

And just to trigger you further
> smog era 6l v8
> 140hp
> 8mpg

Same era rotsry
> 300hp 1.3l
> 12mpg no matter how hard or soft it's driven

>>14257741
>>14257745

Because see this. >>14257273

>>14257745
>>14257747
Would I need a shop to do this in? How does one go about doing the rebuild.

Sorry, I've been lurking for years but I'm still new to cars. I'm genuinely interested in buying my cousin's RX-7, but he said it would need a rebuild soon.

>>14257767
Should cost no more than like 3k at a shop if you dokt need new housings and rotors
Watch YouTube if you want to do it yourself

>>14257767
I've rebuilt several in my living room

>>14257701
You know its actually difficult for Wankels to experience catastrophic failure right?

Oh wait, you're talking out of your ass so of course you don't...

I've been thinking about this. Should I sell my EF civic and buy an FC?

>>14257636
I'm the anon from the other night. Car has 2 documented rebuilds at 142k. I am actually working on the third rebuild. I honestly believe that the previous owner was a complete jack ass and did not treat the car well other wise I wouldn't be needing to rebuild it for a third time. Also turbo rotaries go through engines much faster than NA.

>>14257792
Not an FC. Buy an FB GSL-SE.

>>14257775
>>14257778
Sweet, now I'm interested.

I've handled airplane turbines, so this can't be all bad if I can do it in my apartment or rent out a shop.

Thanks lads, I'll give my cousin a call then.

>>14257805
But yours is mostly stock if I remember?
Lifespan increases greatly with a single turbo and radiator.

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I don't know jack shit about cars, but after seeing the RX-8, I want one. How retard-proof is it?

>>14257792
Yes, ignore >>14257814

Gas is still like 5 bucks a gallon for 87 here in Vancouver

Fuck you're rotary

>>14257759
you will always be australian

>>14257624
I wonder why you go through them so fast

>>14257839
>living in Canada
DUDE
WEED

>>14257836
Not very.

>>14257814

Why an FB in particular? I've always loved the FC body style.

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>>14257857
I agree wholeheartedly, its shit here and the most unhappy, stressed city in the country.

>>14257824
Yea, mine is pretty stock, it has some no-name aftermarket radiator though.

I am confident though that the work i'm about to do will greatly increase it's lifespan. Will keep /o/ posted.

>>14257854
To make a ton of money.
I had one I kept for 7 years as a DD

>>14257846
That means I won't get raped by Muslims or have my house robbed by niggers then get shot dead by police when I go to the station to make a report? Good

>>14257461
Because there are no turbo FCs in my price range and I already have a sports car.

>>14257862
The FB's body style is my preference, however I don't like TTL on the FC opposed to the LRA on the FB. The FB feels more stable to me. I like how the FC looks. The Miata with a rotary swap I think would be better than an FC to add.

Now the FC has it beat in engine options.

>>14257461
It's not Venezuela, I still hardly afford filling up my econobox that drives economical.

If cash were not an issue, it's still nearly impossible to find a well kept dorito anywhere near and I got no locked storage.

>>14257869
>make a ton of money
>still driving flawed cars that are almost a quarter of a century old

righty-o

>>14257866
I feel bad for you guys.

I moved from Ausland to the United States, and love it. I have business partners in Alberta who have to lay-off so many people now that foreign oil wells are opening up, and the price of CAD is taking a dive.

>>14257892
>FB feels more stable to me
Wut?
It doesn't even have rack and pinion?
FC is infinitely more stable.

>>14257905
Fuck off we're full

>>14257900
Problem?

>>14257472
Just move out of CA
>>14257486
>>14257548
>>14257551
>>14257519
>>14257529
>>14257560
>>14257541
>implying
>>14257544
Lol this dude is still showing his face around here?
>>14257545
renisis is shit engine that sold it's soul to pass emissions

>>14257922
i have bowel cancer i think that's a problem

>>14257933
No wonder you're so ass pained

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>>14257472
C,U,C,K

>>14257941
yes that was the joke thank you for spelling it out i think others appreciate that

>>14257737
Mazda rotaries are stupid easy to disassemble. Only people who don't know jackshit about Wankel's think they require special mechanical knowledge or other bullshit.

With the proper tools/equipment and resources it wouldn't be unrealistic to service one at home.

>>14257461

Because they're overrated? Seriously Why would I buy a rotary to waste gas, when there are much better cars out there for doing that. Like seriously, why do retards cream over these cars like baby boomers over mediocre 60's shitboxes?

Yeah sure some rotary's are good cars. The Rx7 was great. the Rx8, it's debatable. But that's all. They're just good cars. There are miles better cars out there. Like I've driven both luckily and the Rx7 is definitely a great car. But, honestly I'd rather have a 911 from the same era. I just don't get the hype. Someone explain to me the hype.

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>>14257957
>$1.60/gallon

you fucking cocksucker

>>14257983
1.30 where i am lol

>>14257957
>tfw €1.30/l for regular unleaded

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>>14257999

>>14257974
They are special snowflakes and take great pride in their constant engine rebuilds. Shit is stupid. The RX8 sucks and the RX7 is old. Fan boys are the worst with every brand but the mazda wankel type certainly have the smallest cocks.

Because there are none for sale over here, aside for one FB and I don't want an FB.
FD or FC is where it's at.

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>tfw no FC on Watanbe's

>>14257974
It's an eccentric engine design that's radically different from almost all cars on the road.

The sound and feel they give off is reason enough to create a cult following for them.

People always like to root for the underdog.

>>14257461
>being a faggot and multicultural is in why arnt you taking fat nigger dick up the ass?

Just because somthing can be done doesn't mean it should be

>>14258015
> ass mad piston cucks still hanging around
Kek

>>14258015
you must love parroting other peoples uninformed retarded ass opinions, don't you.

>>14258001
that sucks.

>>14257836
>after seeing the RX-8, I want one. How retard-proof is it?
Get a Corolla if you're a retard

>>14258054
oh lordy the motors suck. this is fact. only with a wankel is a rebuild with under 100k considered normal. but hey anon here with rebuild three at 140k or my neighbor who lasted 80k totally aren't the norm. maybe you are actually just lucky.

>>14258023

But when I drove both the Rx7 and 8 I felt nothing. There is no real sense of excitement like in other sports cars. The handling in the Rx7 was incredible I couldn't fault that. But it was just flat, and didn't excite me at all.

It was like climbing into bad with a super hot girl, and then finding out she is awful in bed. I was horribly disappointing. Then they guys who car it was took offence when I told him. That didn't help either.

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>>14258027
do you compare everything in your life to having a big girthy dark dick up your bum? Have you come out of the closet yet?

>>14257725
>light
>over 400lbs
>costs thousands
>200-500$ chebby truck motor weighs <100lbs more and makes 1.5x the hp and 2x the torks
>dorito lasts <100k miles lolapexseals
>chebby lasts >250k miles
>chebby gets better gas milage
>both burn oil
>cam/head chebby for 400$ and make 500hp

Aluminum block chebby truck motors are literally less than 500$, literally cost less than 1000$ to swap into a rotory, and are literally better all-around motors than doritos.

>>14258151
Are they literally all of that, or only figuratively? Please clarify.

>>14258179
Small block Chebbys are literally the greatest engine family of all time.

>>14258179
He's wrong, the 13B-REW weighs 275 lbs fully loaded without the trans while a fully dressed LSx motor weighs 460lbs

>>14258151
You can't up an aluminum block for 500
You can't swap for 1k

You're fucking retarded jhst kill yourself

>implying american gasoline is expensive
>in Sweden we're basically paying 8 dollar per gallon

>>14258211
>This anon thinks sbc = ls
kek

>>14258093
I don't think you can objectively say Wankel's are shit motors because they do a lot of things extremely well that piston engines don't. They have flaws but what do you expect when Mazda has been the only manufacture to develop the concept.

Longevity can be solved by using two-stroke premix and if you are inclined rotaries can easily be disassemble/service by yourself. It isn't rocket science to go past 120k on these engines.

>>14258179
Literally.
Im not usually a massive faggot to use that word, but aluminum block chebbys are exponentially better than iron housing rotorys.
If you feel like shelling out thousands for an all aluminum 13/20b though, fucking do it.
If i had an rx7, i'd drop a rebuilt vortec 5.3 in for less than 2k$ and never have to touch the engine again.

>>14258194
Don't be a flaming faggot, that's not true for everything.

>>14258215
this. >>14258151 you can get LM7 (iron) for that but even then its hard to get everything needed to run it at that price like harness, pcm, TAC module (03+), pedal. any aluminum block truck engine is gen4 so you need all of that. also the truck intake doesn't fit with any known RX swap kit so that means at minimum LS1 complete intake swap or cowl hood (rice)

>>14258235
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c5-general/976006-how-much-does-the-ls6-engine-weigh.html

>>14258211
The fully dressed alu block truck motor i bought for 350$ on friday weighs 380lbs.
>>14258215
Get some glasses and look harder nigger.
Get some fabbing skills and 200$ in tools and you can do it for 700$
>>14258237
This so much.
>>14258254
??? You can pick up everything you need and a motor for less than 700$ at a junkyard.
Iron block swaps you can do with some simple tools (200$) and a 400$ truck off craigslist.

>>14258237
>120k
>premix
the engines suck. apex seals will always be the weak point. its just a bad design. 120k after treating the thing with velvet gloves and polluting like a pig is not impressive.

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I unironically want to put an NA peripheral ported 20b into a Foxbody

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>yfw Iran enters the market on monday
>tfw gas will be sub 1$ like for real
We will see 22$ a barrel within 5 weeks

>>14258237
The number one important factor when it comes to motor design for a passenger vehicle is longevity. Sure it does lots of other things good but you don't own a race car.

>>14258304
I didn't say they go instantly down hill from that point on... I've seen well taken care rotaries go beyond 200k working like new without "velvet gloves" or terrible emissions.

Sure apex seals go but again use two-stroke and it will go for a long time. Even longer if you get a decent rebuild with quality seals on the rotors.

You still haven't provided a good reason as to why they legitimately suck btw.

>>14258348
I never said longevity wasn't an important issue with Wankel's, I'm just stating that they don't deserve the lol80krebuild reputation they get because they can go much further than that with proper maintenance.

Although yes for a consumer vehicle Wankel's aren't really suited for people who can't be bothered to change their oil on schedule.

>>14258293
if you got the engine dressed for that cheap then I'm envious. My fully dressed gen3 LM7 was $850 so just know that either you lucked up or you particular market must be saturated with them.

>>14258387
The fact of the matter is the wankel engine is an inherently poor design. There is just no getting around the apex seal being dry. And no matter how good of luck you've had with old RX7s the fact of the matter is even religiously following mazdas maintenance schedules their 80k lifespan is not a meme. It is general fact that the mazda rotary is severely lacking in the reliability department. No reasonable person would every choose a wankel. I get that you like them but they in fact do suck. 120k is not something to be proud of and further mileage are not the norm. Wankels are dead for a reason and it isn't just their god awful emissions.

>>14258401
Jesus christ where do you live?
Vortech 5.3's with 80-150k miles are like 100-200$ around here and lm7's you can get for under 500$ with less than 150k.
You can get full salvage title 05+ gm trucks for under a grand and running clean title 90-00's for like 6-800

Even though they're iron blocks, the vortech 5300's are the best choice, because for 500$, you can get a cam, full intake, set of headers, and a 3" exhaust and make over 500hp and 600lb/ft

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>>14258022
>wanting shitty knockoffs

If you're gonna do that, just buy rotas you cheap asshole.

>>14258459
like I said bro different markets but some of that price is also in the guy pulling it out because of his shop insurance wouldn't let me or I could've gotten it for 600 complete. Average price in my area for a wrecked silverado is about 2500 and all the wrecking yards went from pricing based off cubic inch like the old days to prorated value of whole vehicle. Fucking jews man.

>>14257544
All engines burn oil.

>>14258434
>There is just no getting around the apex seal being dry.
Yes there is, I've stated that using two-stroke premix will solve the sort longevity. It lubes up the whole rotor housing through the fuel injectors

>even religiously following mazdas maintenance schedules their 80k lifespan is not a meme.
Okay, but keeping up with maintenance combined with two-stroke is what pushes the rebuild time much further out. It isn't the engines fault that the owner didn't understand the proper measures to extend its life.

>mazda rotary is severely lacking in the reliability department
Again another stupid meme that puts the wrong image. Wankel's are actually quite immune to catastrophic failure due to their extremely simple design IF they are properly maintained for. Most the time they suffer compression loss and reduced power if something does break.

>Wankels are dead for a reason and it isn't just their god awful emissions.
They are dead because they didn't scale fast enough to their piston counterparts fuel efficiency to power output along side emissions. But how is that the engines fault when Mazda only develops it?

>>14258521
no..

>>14258320
hype

>>14258521
In the sense that an excessive amount of time between the metal parts it lubricates will burn the oil- But other engines aren't pissing it directly into the fucking combustion chamber from the factory.

>>14258525
>following mfgrs maintenance schedule results in an engine lasting 80kmi
>this is the owners fault
Rotards are pathetic

>>14258497
Damn what a bunch of kikes.
Good luck with the motor though, what are you doing with it?

>>14258575
Well if that's what the engine naturally requires to go beyond 80k than yes, it's the owners fault.

Sure Mazda never recommended two-stroke to be used but if you're buying an RX-7 then by god you should know what the hell you are getting into.

>>14257560
> Apex seals are a BITCH.
this doesn't even make sense?
apex seals are never an issue unless you're doing something wrong

>>14257519
> Lack of torque
> Dirty emissions
compared to what, a dirty v8 with bad mileage?

all these armchair rotary owners are making my doritos spin.

>>14257701
> calls the mazda 'rotary' engine a wankel design

lol go read a book or something

> Catastrophic failure should not be the norm for anything but a race car.
you're serious aren't you?
what kind of catastrophic failure are you talking about?
blown seals? you can still drive it on low compression

>>14258610
Said dirty V8 still gets better mileage whlie making twice the power and three times the torque.

>>14258625
you might want to go check for blown seals then
you never know

>mfw 1.30 ausdurries for 98/110octane race fuel
fap

>>14258627
three times the torque of a 13B with a modern single turbo setup?

>>14258293
You can't buy an aluminum sbc for 500
You can't swap it for 1000

Get the fuck out

>>14258592
Mazda should design and market it as a two stroke then, and have a separate oil tank etc.
You can only judge an engine fairly this way. If you did reliability mods and procedures on any other engine it would perform better too, and most likely leave the rotary behind again.

ITT like 2 people that know what they are talking about. Everyone else butthurt regurgitating rumors and myths they have read on /o/ (a great place for true facts and automotive knowledge)

>>14258627
Said dirty v8 makes 140hp and gets 8mpg
Lol the 70s were great weren't they

>>14258550
Ironically enough the engine purposefully pissing oil into the combustion chamber drinks less than the ones that don't burn oil by design

Honda literally says that having to throw a quart of oil in every 1k miles is normal on their brand new cars in their owners manual
A rotsry doesn't ever need to he topped up with oil unless there's a severe problem with the metering pump and it's injecting like four times as much

>>14258653
I don't even understand what you mean by adding "reliability mods or procedures" or how that even effects their superiority in all categories against rotaries...

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>>14258584
getting rid of this piece of shit. disregard green arrow I was helping a guy on NICO with his ABS problem.

> The majority of complaints say that they were told from Honda and dealership mechanics that it wasnormalfor a powertrain to burn a quart of oil every 1,000 miles. The class-action suit claims Honda refused to honor its warranties and instead told people to check their oil every time they stop for gas. Yep, "normal".
http://www.hondaproblems.com/trends/excessive-oil-consumption/

But only rotaries burn oil r-right?

>>14258683
In brand new shit, yeah, because they're still in a break in period around that time where parts are seating and impregnating the wear surface they're going to be spending their life against.

>>14258718
It's the 21st century, engines are worn in at the factory

>>14258718
Regardless of break-in period, no new vehicle should be drinking excessive amounts of oil.

>>14258737
unless it's a supercar or something, no.

>>14258753
And yet they do

>>14258753
what's "excessive"?

>>14258775
1 quart a fucking thousand miles i'd say is a bit "excessive"

>>14258737
Even with that, there's still recommended break in periods and procedures.
>>14258753
That seemed more like a Honda problem than an architecture problem, but is beside the point in that it isn't something designed into the engine to overcome a crippling design fault.

>>14258713
Why are asian manufacturers like honda and nissan plagued with so many oil consumption problems? I've owned 30 year domestic vehicles and literally never had to add a drop of oil to any of them.

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>>14257548
>apex seals aren't an issue, rotary emissions aren't bad, and don't require extra maintenance.
so what you're saying is... that you're a moron who has no idea what he's talking about? okay, just making sure we're all on the same page

>>14258830
Tell that to my 3800

>>14258845
>has never owned one
Where I've owned over 30 of them

>>14258649
There are 3 5.3 dressed aluminum motors at my junkyard with less than 150k miles, each for 400$

Get a 100$ welder, a 50$ angle grinder, and a 50$ dremel, and you can do a fully functional swap with a/c and ps for 500$

>>14259649
pistoncucks are actually this deluded lol

>>14259708
You've failed to provide any evidence to the contrary that you can do a full chebby motor swap for 1500$.
Care to provide a counter argument?

>>14259767
No you're clearly too retarded

>>14259872
Sooooo, let's see what we've got here.
I've put an iron block vortec 5300 into a lexus sc400, costing a whopping grand total of 1300$, an lm7 into a foxbody for less than 1400 (forgot how much), and you've thrown insults on an anonymous Chinese cartoon imageboard proving nothing while i try to come and spread my knowledge to these kind mentally disabled children.
I could literally buy an mt fc rx7 for 1400$ on craigslist right now and swap an alu block motor into it fully drivable while spending no more than 2500$ on the whole project.

>>14257472
lmao north jersey is at like $1.65-$1.80 cash rn, not as great as last year sure but still breddy good

>>14259649
> ls swap fags are actually this brain dead
Thanks for the laugh kid

>>14260390
So far all you've done is throw random numbers around and claim your bullshit as fact
Gtfo

>>14260732
Have you ever been to a junkyard?
Look on fleabay/cl and used tig's are under 100$, and air tools are a dime a dozen. Compressors are also cheap as fuck if you are a goon and are dumb enough to not have one.
Also, heres a good website to find cheap chebby swaps
www.google.com
Just go to the search bar and type in
cheap chevy v8 swap
Its actually pretty cool imo its a great thing to have in this age of modern technology

>>14257461
Because rotor housings and apex seals are not dirt cheap.

>>14262218
>rotor housings
and how often do you tards really replace this shit

>>14262218
I daily my RX-8 and I don't know how often you think those need replacing... Unless you're incredibly stupid and run out of oil, you shouldn't have to do your apex seals very often at all.

>>14262218
You can buy a set of rotor housings for as low as 200$ but you hardly ever need to replace them. Even if a bit of a seal chips and scores it it's not the end of the world. You'll lose compression a bit but it's still driveable. Then when you pull it apart, which takes 3 hours, it's very easy to identify what's wrong and to replace it. Keep in mind losing compression isn't going to make it a dead cylinder type of deal, it still works just not to it's full potential.

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>>14257472
Lol sucks to be you nerd

>>14262429
>87
Scroll over to 91/93 champ

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>>14257472
Top kek

Your gas is double what I pay.

>>14262432
89 was 1.71 iirc and 93 was 2.0something. But since I'm driving a 15 year old truck, regular is just fine.

>>14257461
in oklahoma rn its under $1.70... wut

>>14257461
get a big v8 and enjoy pulling on rx7's and rx8's while getting the same fuel efficiency and not having to open your hood every time to let it cool or fill it up with oil all the time or generally having a broken car.

>>14257560
>Apex seals are a BITCH.
No, they aren't. They are a wear point and will be replaced every once in a while. It's no different than having to get new tires, or a new clutch, or new brakes, or an oil change.
>Emissions are GARBAGE.
They actually aren't that bad and with a decent exhaust they can still pass smog in CA.
>And the maintenence schedule is atrocious
Only if you don't take care of it, which is the same as on any engine.

Also, the oil changes aren't that bad. If you add a small premix to your gas you don't have to worry about the oil injection. It doesn't even burn that much oil, and oil changes every 3k should be fine.

With gas so low a used RX-8, in good mechanical condition, is pretty tempting.

>>14257747
Never worked on one, but this makes sense with no valves to deal with. Rotaries are so dead simple.

Are there any particular pitfalls? Like maybe rotor balancing issues? Or refinishing the housing walls?

How often to apex seals break? How does it compare to say the likelihood of piston rings going?

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Should I do it? http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/5402693014.html

It would be my first car ;_;

>>14257461
Because they sound like shit.

>>14258488
arent rotas also trash


buy rays you memelords

>>14263856
first car a rotary?? kek i hope you know your wrenches

>>14263874
>kek i hope you know your wrenches
Two of my uncles are mechanics and I go to a "magnet" school for Automotive Engineering (yet I don't have a car to call my own)

Gas is going to be getting cheaper now that the Iran deal happened.

Either way, I wouldn't get an RX-8 just because of all the unburnt fuel that likes to find its way into the exhaust, warming up the cabin and maybe even melting some stuff.
It's just not nice.
Now an FB RX-7 I'd like to have, but just for the novelty factor.

>>14263856
>First car
>RX8
>Literally 20mpg at the absolute best with only 200hp
At least it handles well and has a good chassis though

>>14263886
>>Literally 20mpg at the absolute best with only 200hp
Gas is cheap
It's easy to make a lot more power

>>14257461
Because if I owned one, I'd immediately drop and LSx motor in it.

Get rekt.

>>14263978
They make an electric LS?

A good rotary will set you back 50 grand $ in my country

>>14263888
Gas is not cheap.

Forced induction = worse fuel consumption

>>14264084
>Gas is not cheap.
Where do you fucking live? It's 1.50/gal here and going down.

>>14257722
We live in the real world, anon. A world where, as much as we like cars, have realistic budgets to maintain. Nearly everyone is bound by this mindset, even when selecting a fun car. I might have the wherewithal to DD a Miata if I'm an enthusiast but I sure as shit couldn't do it if it only got 10mpg

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>gas suddenly gets cheap
>/o/ suddenly wants to get low mpg vehicles
you are all sheep, just like the single moms who are buying used v8 Tahoes and Yukons right now, because "gas is cheap"

give it a month, we'll be back up to $2.50~$3 per gallon

>People are this fucking stupid

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>>14263856
For that amount of money you're better off finding an older fb rx7. The 12a is an extremely reliable and easy to maintain rotary engine but you'll still get in the habit of premix and normal maintenance. That and the cars handle great and are an absolute blast to drive. Its a good stepping stone in the rotary world. Also most rx8's were bought by people who didn't know the maintenance schedule and beat on them like an old camry. They were the wife's sports car for a while. If avoid like the plague unless you have service records.

>>14264138

fuck off tripfag

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>>14257519
>dirty emissions

>>14264076
Where the fuck do you live?

>>14264138
> being this retarded and not knowing how much the price of oil is

>>14257461
not cheap in the EU
also don't want to import one with the steering wheel on the wrong side and US specs don't have Infiniti trim
also turbos suck

>>14257519
>lack of torque

well it's a good thing an engine is connected to a transmission otherwise that could actually be an issue.

Believe me, I wanted one...one that looked like this...
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/5400817074.html

>>14267342
Yeah who needs torque when you have a transmission right?

>>14263886
>only 200hp
Your first car shouldn't be fast. The 100-200 range is more than enough for someone new to driving.

>>14257472
Holy shit were do you live even in western ny gas is like 2.10

>>14267378
That looks well taken car of and is very well priced. Fc's are priced really well right now, but like most 90s rwd sports cars, they are starting to climb in value. If that was closer to me I'd jump on it.