What would win in a race 2015 Subaru STi or 2002 Camaro SS

>>14142871
OP here, forgot one key component

>Muh mighty LS1

>>14142871
Roll the SS would walk away no problem. Dig would be a drivers race.

>>14142871
Was the gearbox on those Camaros any good?

Anyway, seems like one of those things where STI for the first 1/8mi and then Catfish ftw. Plus that aero, they researched it at the aquarium.

>>14142884
From a dig the STI has the advantage with AWD if the driver doesn't mind raping his drivetrain. From a roll it's pretty much gonna come down to gearing.

Camaro will shit on the Subaru
It's not about how much power, it's about how it makes power.

>>14142893
>Chebby Shill

>>14142901

Honestly it's a drivers race

The T-56 was a fine trans, the gearing isn't too bad, but the rear end is a weak point. Aslong as you're not running radials on a strip though it's not too bad.

>>14142892
>From a roll it's pretty much gonna come down to gearing.
Stock a STi puts down -220whp, an SS puts down 280whp+. SS would destroy from a roll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Ejipz1AJg

>>14142914
Subaru owner here,The scoobie would win though because it's 4 wheel drive and if it puts 220 down on the wheels it mades 880 hp then? Compared to the Camaro's 560 because it's RWD?

>>14142947
Am I supposed to laugh or be scared that Subaru owners might actually be this stupid?

>>14142871
You should acquire the two and actually race them instead of benchracing.

>>14142956

Monster stickers make like 50 HP each

>>14142947
Holy shit I hope you're trolling and that you're not actually this fucking retarded.

I say STI all the way. Camaro is just a bulky pos where the STI is made to race. kinda

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>>14143006

>Buy an STI
>clutch dump the trans and the it explodes
>drive it hard a few times and the rods come a knockin'

>>14142871
had a 2001 z28 at one point of my shitty existence.

it would come down to the drivers and their shifting assuming manuals, but the subie does have the modern advantage and 4wd. subieru would take off quicker but the camaro could catch up real quick

anyone wants to volunteer for a real world test?

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How would my 2006 Mercedes C230 hold up to it?

Pic related but not mine

>>14142889

Well it is a t56 I'm sure and that's pretty much common place for the lsx of those days and I've never heard one bad thing.

>>14143024
201 hp, 197 ft lb of torque 3405 pounds

I'd probably get BTFO by the LS1, but could I take the 3800 Camaro?

It's got 200 hp and 225 ft-lbs of tq

If I had to have a Camaro in all honesty this would be the set up.

Lq9 is a must
Twin turbo
T56
12 point rear end

>>14143022
People have already done it.

WRXs aren't fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFnWfOjJSfU

>>14143024
>>14143046
BTFO'd either way. Why did you even bother posting?

>>14143024
>>14143046
Is this some kind of joke? You wouldnt stand a fucking chance against either. Sorry to diss your ride, friend.

>>14143046
According to what I found on google, your car is .2 seconds faster than a '98 V6 Camaro.

On the same token, it's .4 seconds slower than a '99 V6 Mustang.

>>14143055
>going through the trouble of getting rid of the 10-bolt and not getting a Ford 9"

Pleb tier as fuck friend.

>>14143092

>Just admitted to googling

Gm makes a 12 bolt rearend fuckboi

The lq9 is a cast iron 6.0 which can be built very easily.

900hp is more than achievable with to set up.

>>14143092
>implying a 3800 Camaro would be slower than a New edge v6 mustang

>>14143138
Yeah, I didn't know how fast a 4cyl Mercedes is. I'm sure you did though.

I know that GM makes the 10 and 12 bolt, my point is the 9" is better. Hence why a lot of chevy guys use them. Try being less retarded.


>>14143202
Not implying anything.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/1999-chevrolet-camaro-z28-vs-ford-mustang-gt-4.pdf

>>14143092
You stupid or something?

Mercedes C230: 0-60 = 8.3
1/4 time is 16.6

3800 Camaro 0-60 = 6.9
1/4 time is 15.5

Also, the Camaro makes it's 200 hp at 5200 RPM whereas the Mercedes makes it's 201 HP at 6200 RPM. The Camaro wins all day

>tfw the 3800 is just that based

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>>14143267
Sauce for your made up timesheet?

>>14143325
http://www.autorooster com/0-60-times/chevrolet/camaro/

>imblying :DDD

http://www.autorooster com/0-60-times/ford/mustang/

>>14143340
>literally sourcless time from zerotosixty v2.0

Fucking idiot.

>>14143361
>Ford rustang shill this asshurt over a few seconds

Why can't you just accept the loss? The GM 3800 wins again.

Why can't Ford make an engine as based as the holy 3800 or LS1 for that matter?

>>14143395
>GM catfish shill this asshurt that someone had to make up a sourceless time

Why can't you just accept the loss? Especially when I present you a reputable source.

Why can't Chevy make an engine as based as the Voodoo or 5.8L modular for that matter?

>>14143424
>damage control

and yeah I HTML coded an entire website and got specs for thousands of cars just for this one thread.

Ford shill so scorned he's gone past full retard

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>>14143435
>chevy fan still trying to save face
Pic related is from the site you're quoting. It basically means "we can't confirm this is true".

Show me a reputable source for that claimed time, in the meantime Mustang - 1 Camaro - 0.

>>14143424
additionally

>implying caranddriver is a reputable source when in the link it states "Camaro Z28 and Mustang GT" when those aren't the appropriate times

Ford shill takes ANOTHER loss.

>>14142947

STI gets 247 to the wheels, SS, 268 HP. It would be a pretty close race.

According to MT it would be a drivers race for sure.

STI 1/4 mile: 13.1s @ 104.4 mph
Camaro SS 1/4 mile: 13.49s @ 107.34 mph

>>14143454
>getting this asshurt on a mongolian cartoon board

check >>14143461 for details on why the fuck you're a retarded faggot

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>>14143461
They tested both retard.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/1999-chevrolet-camaro-z28-vs-ford-mustang-gt-archived-comparison-how-do-the-v-6s-shape-up-page-4

>>14143463>>14143463
>STI gets 247 to the wheels,
According to who? Pic related.

>SS, 268 HP
Lol, no. Even in '98 before the LS6 intake upgrade a Z/28 put down 270-280whp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJSxXBHZgJk
Skip to 2:07 for dyno.

>>14143478
What details? That Car and Driver tested both V6 and V8 versions?

see >>14143499 dipshit.

>>14143499

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/reviews/a6306/2015-subaru-wrx-vs-sti/

http://www.motortrend.com/news/camaro-ss-mustang-cobra-comparison/

Have a 2015 sti, raced an early 2000s camaro (supercharged I think), it was on 494 here in mn, we were neck and neck up top 130, but I bitched out, he dropped it two gears and took off, was probably going 180-190.

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>>14143499
>>14143518
It's likely operator error. Muh pony cars shouldn't even be thrown around a track. It's quicker to 60 and on a 1/4 and that's all that matters in a burger car

>>14142947
>The scoobie would win though because it's 4 wheel drive

my '99 LS1 Pontiac trans am does not spin off the line if you don't want it to

i could easily take an awd car. you're more likely to bog off the line


AWD is overrated shit for people that don't know what RWD is

>>14143499
>tfw 10% throttle in an LS1 still feels extremely powerful

making like 100+ hp at literally cruising rpm. as soon as you touch it its like WOT in your average car

>>14143542
What does this have to do with the V6 Mustang being faster than the V6 Camaro?

>>14143532
Weird, C&D tested the two '01 Cobras and both put down 272whp.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2001-ford-svt-mustang-cobra-road-test-review

>>14143577
I've driven '02 SS M6 and dd'd a LT1 M6 T/A for 2 years. Really fun cars.

>>14143665
i drive a stock '99 LS1 a4 T/A, red ttop car

really fun

>>14143665
No... the V6 Camaro is faster than the Mustang in a 1/4 and likely around a track. Get some actual experienced drivers.

>>14143725
>the V6 Camaro is faster than the Mustang in a 1/4
No, it's .5s and 3mph slower over the quarter, and more telling it's 3.4 seconds slower to 100mph.

Keep telling yourself it's faster though, maybe that will eventually make it true.

>>14143795
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>>14143267<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>14143889
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>>14143454 <<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No Source = Not valid

Fucking 02 ss is slower than a 99 ek9 type r the sti would walk the maro

>>14143499
A stock sti will get 215-225 at the wheels on a low reading dyno. I agree with your chart.

>>14142871
>he thinks his 4banger sti pos can beat a
camarro ss kek

the 5th gen camaro is slower than a civic around tsukuba
a fucking civic
what makes you belive an older 4th gen will be faster than an sti, which is faster than a civic?

>>14144032
An STi is slower around a track than a V6 Mustang.

Also see
>>14142914
>>14143070

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>>14144046
>an STi is slower arounda track than a V6
>take these videos of highway pulls as proof

KEK!

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>>14144107
>1:04 for the impreza and lancer
very nice. american shit cant compete

>>14144130
i was looking for that image, now I can troll camaro fanboys

thanks familia

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>>14144107
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2011-ndash-feature-ndash-car-and-driver/features/lightning-lap-2011-ndash-feature-ndash-car-and-driver-lightning-lap-2011-ll1-class-page-2

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>>14144134
maybe this one is of use too

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>>14144107
>>14144147
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2011-ndash-feature-ndash-car-and-driver/features/lightning-lap-2011-ndash-feature-ndash-car-and-driver/features/10best-2011-10best-cars-feature-car-and-driver/features/lightning-lap-2007/features/lightning-lap-2011-ndash-feature-ndash-car-and-driver-lightning-lap-2011-ll2-class-page-3

>>14144157
>>14144147
>car and driver

into the trash

>>14144163
>go kart tarck

into the trash

>>14144147
>>14144157
Car and drive uses amateur drivers

>>14143549
I'll remember that this summer when I beat my trans am buddy for the third time in the 1/8.

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>>14144167
>track made for lolcantturn cars

into the trash

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>>14144167
>le tsukuba go kart track meme
top kek pic related, silly americuck

>>14144173
Japanese pros are about American amateur level anyway.

>>14143024
you'd get fucked in the race but you would also get fucked more than the redneck and the boyracer

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>>14142914
Those comments

>>14144200
daily reminder there were no american drivers in lmp1 this year, but there was two japs

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>>14144200
That's why America drivers kill bcca, and formula right, keeeeekkkk

>>14144258
>>14144223
>>14144200
>arguing about drivers

this benchracing makes no sense

they are all better than us, at the end of the day /o/ loses

>>14144200
> too fat to fit in fixed back seats
"where's muh americuh muscle with the double wide seeeat"

>>14144223
Daily reminder no Jap has EVER won F1 and they're losing 12-2 in Le Mans wins to the US as well.

Get cucked more weeb.

>>14144191
>literaly time attack track not used for any form of international motorsport
>meme
Delusional?

>>14144269
>any gta
>need more than two people in vehicle
>have to use 4 doors cant use 4 seat coupes
that game taught me all americans are fat shits even if they dont look fat

>>14144280
>and they're losing 12-2 in Le Mans wins to the US as well
The US has 12 wins at the 24 hours of le mans? youre literally retarded kid

>literaly time attack track
there we go, time attack cars and go karts are two different things. though i see how you can be confused seeing as neither of them are 5000lb cant turn shit boxes.

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>>14144299
We're comparing drivers here moron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners

>>14144258
>and formula
You mean something Japs have never won?

>>14144299
The goodwood hill climb is a time attack, that doesn't mean it(or Tsukuba) is better for comparing how cars perform than a track used by 3 different racing series.

>>14144333
i said THIS year, learn to read and stop trying to move goal posts.

>so much ass hurt

>>14144348
so a track ideal for putting a car through as much work as possible in a short time isnt as good for gauging the performance of a car compared to a power track just because the power track is situated in a part of the world that makes it popular for motorsports events?

>>14144333
>lemons

Like I give a fuck fat american

>>14144373
>this mad japcuck

kek

>>14144350
>i said THIS year
So? What does this have anything to do with Japan routinely being shit in highest forms of motorsport?

>make comment that going by history of racing on a global competition level US has better drivers
>well japan had more racers in one class of one series this year
>ok? well they've got btfo overall
>YOU'RE MOVING GOALPOSTS BECAUSE I SAID THIS YEAR, WAAAHHH

Get fucked retard.

>>14143046
My 98 ta had 285hp and 312 tq at the wheels on a mustang dyno. It was stock except a kn filter. Weighs 3620 with me in it and a 1/4 tank.

>>14144360
Respectable manufacturers use tracks that are used in real competition for benchmarking their vehicles.

When was the last time you saw a manufacturer send their car with a driver of their choice to Tsukuba for performance benchmarking? Now try real tracks like Laguna Seca, Nurb, RBR etc....

>>14144392
>make comment that going by history of racing on a global competition level US has better drivers
where

>well japan had more racers in one class of one series this year
in reply to a post saying japanese pros were on american amateur level. wheres the americans at in lmp1 this year? then you start crying about dead history top kek

keep moving them posts, americuck

>>14144424
>When was the last time you saw a manufacturer send their car with a driver of their choice to Tsukuba for performance benchmarking?
I ask the same about VIR and Laguna Seca. Like all times are set by journalists, same as tsukuba with best motoring.

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>>14143218
That pdf filename though.

Pic posted for posterity

>>14144424
>When was the last time you saw a manufacturer send their car with a driver of their choice to Tsukuba for performance benchmarking?

just 5 minutes ago while watching my Hot Version videos

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>>14142871
Some of you are forgetting that the fbody was underrated. I had a stock 01ss that almost made 320rwhp. If your fbody wasn't running 13.2 in the 1/4 something was wrong with it. Mine was in the 12's with just a cai. I've also raced sti wrx's and they might get from a dig but it get ugly for them fast.

>>14142947
Jesus fucking christ you cannot be this dumb

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>>14144382
>be amerithin
>weights 110 kg

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Depends if this race has any corners.

>>14142871
Camaro's 0-60 and 1/4 tome are slower. From a dig, camaro's going to get BTFO.

From a roll? It'll be close.

Report back after the race. :^)