Where were you when Mazda became the GOAT manufacturer? The

>Where were you when Mazda became the GOAT manufacturer?

In the car dealership ordering a ND.

mazda 6 needs a v6 option or turbo or something. as it stands the accord is better overall.

As much as I love my 3, the brand new Civic may very well be a better proposition. Waiting for the hatch.

Like the previous Anon said, the 6 needs a more powerful engine. Slap the new CX-9's turbo in there and call it a day.

The CX-3 is one of the weirdest goddamn tweener cars I've never seen. Smaller, less efficient, same cargo space/ground clearance, and more expensive than a Mazda 3 hatch. It makes no sense to get one unless you just need to have a subcompact with AWD.

It is GOAT for making fantastic cars and being the most efficient automaker in the US right now without a single hybrid, diesel, or electric.

>No MS3 or MS6
>No new Rx yet
>designs getting uglier every year
If they just brought back the MS3, I'd be willing to buy one... But since they insist on being stupid, my business is going to Ford.

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>>14099890
>mazdaspeed hatch with AWD 6 speed manual

>>14099879
They should've just made the 2.5 Mazda3 available with awd. The Cx3 is so stupid.

The 6 needs the right drive train and at least a v6 to put it on a new plane of existence, given its quality is too far above the competition

And they need a proper flagship...

Doing great, though. I bought a 3 hatch on the day the sedan arrived. The only downside is the shit ass avid tires it comes with. Just got the p7s and the car is the best dd I could imagine

>>14099897
>>14099890

It's coming, brometheus

>>14099764
Mazda 3 is shit

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>>14099890
>designs getting uglier every year
m8 if you think that smiley face 3 looks better than the new version your opinions can all be discarded

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>>14099918
no u

>>14099764
I had a 2014 Mazda 3 as a rental for 2 weeks, thought the car was awful.

Mazda 6 looks nice, but I've not driven one.

>>14099927
Ya right my buddy has a Mazda 3 and it wouldn't start so he took it to the dealership and it needed a software update. Never even heard of that shit with a car

Enjoy your manlet cars.

Mazda is for tiny ass gooks, so if you feel comfy in one of them you're either a jap or a manlet.

>>14099927
>posts rice w/ nigger wheels

gtfo

>>14099935
What didn't you like about it? My GF parents have one and I drove it and didn't like it either.

>>14099966
It's one of the reasons Mazda is a no go in Europe. Fucking bydlo plebs drive it.

Same reason why I will never buy a BMW 3.

>>14099970
Everything.

>>14099793
"mazdaspeed"

>>14099972
>Same reason why I will never buy a BMW 3.
Yes, that's the reason...

>>14099764
Mazda is shit.

>all their vehicles look the same/girly
>their "sports car" miata is an under powered pos
>the RX9 concept is everything wrong with todays vehicles, angry, no windows, ugly as fuck

Fuck Mazda.

>>14099764
new RX7 that isn't a goofy looking concept car with no windows when

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>>14099993
Hope you don't like windows, and cars as long as full size pick up trucks.

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>>14100006

>>14100006
that doesn't look angry to me, it looks like it's tripping balls

>>14099992
It is. I own a car that costs the same.

>>14100006
>no headlights
>no windows

Mazda forgot the driver needs to see.

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>>14100006

>>14100017
>what is a concept

Look at their current line-up, Mazda is aware windows still exist

>>14100043
Fuck

>>14099966
>BBS
>nigger wheels

>>14100050
Is no windows a meme? I don't get it. It has perfectly normal windows for a sporty car.

Any of you fags ever sit in a CLA?

>>14100054
>implying BBS are not nigger tier

Tasteless scum

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>>14100062
>CLA

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>>14100063
this is nigger tier, learn your tiers

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>>14100100
>comparing a sedan with a coupe

Is this board populated with mouthbreathing Dodge Ram drivers?

>>14099897
>AWD
no thanks

When are they going to put a turbo back in the 3?

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>>14100129

>he thinks its okay for some cars to not have windows

>>14100154
>he thinks a coupe must be the size of a station wagon

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>>14100129

>>14100160
>he really thinks its okay for some cars to not have windows, so much so that he's trying to make up excuses

>>14100174
it's a concept car dude. they're designed to be exaggerated

>>14099946
>things that never happened.
>>14099955
Wut? Makes zero sense

I was about 5.
323 gtx
323 gt turbo
626 turbo
Rx7 turbo II
Millennia supercharged
Miats debuts.
Mpv awd.

They make shit now comparatively

>>14100178
Concepts also portray the direction car design is heading
And its heading towards no windows

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>>14100006
Did I fix it?

>>14100198
>implying its mazdas fault
Everyone is doing this

>>14100204
where the fuck in my post was that implied? can you greentext it?

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>people knocking mazda's current styling
this is my 2 week old 3. if you think this looks bad your taste is objectively shit

>>14100220
>that buyers remorse

Why does Mazda mount its engines transverse when the front ends are so long?

>>14100220
Nope it's ugly. You'll try and defend it because it's new but soon you'll gaze longingly at something good looking and realize your car is beige as fuck And ugly to boot.

>>14100220
Is that the suv or the 3? Looks fuck huge.

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>>14100234
>>14100240
opinions discarded.

>soon you'll gaze longingly at something good looking and realize your car is beige as fuck
the car is gray retard

>>14100220
LOL pig fat as fuck
>2900lbs
>155hp
>150ft-lb torque

Can it even move under its girth with such low power? KEK

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>>14100262
it's genuinely ugly even by hatchback standards

jap cars are a perfect taste detector actually

>>14099764
Yeah but they rust like crazy even if you get them rustchecked every year. Also the Ford Focus is better than the 3. The Taurus/Fusion is better than the 6. The Escape is better than the CX5. The Mustang Ecoboost is better than the MX5. Get the fuck out, you retarded squinty-eyed shill.

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>>14100285
actually it has 184hp and 185ft-lb torque friend :^)

>>14100348
>volvo
lol

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>>14100363
Forgot picture. Blow me, faggot

>>14100285
That's plenty of power for an econobox.

My 3100 lbs Mazda 6 has 160 hp and 155 ft lbs and it doesn't feel underpowered when driving.

>>14100363
cool opinions but no website or reviewer agrees with you

>>14100363
The Mazdas made in the early 2000s did. Not so much now.

>>14100368
>Taurus
>Escape
>Good
I'll give you that the Ford hatchbacks can actually compete, but you're grasping straws if you think those two are good cars, let alone better than Mazdas versions.

>>14100364
if you drive a plastic car you really shouldn't be talking down on volvos m8

for a start they're more expensive than your gook shit.

>>14100398
>More expensive
>Good thing

Pick one.

>>14100404
it's good for shit like rust and cheap plastic which mazda STILL doesn't have a fucking handle on in 2015.

>>14100381
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1098598_ford-fusion-vs-mazda-6-compare-cars
Is that so, fagg0r?

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>>14100385
I live in Ontario. Trust me. My friend's 2010 3 is rotted to shit, and he takes care of it. It's not pic related but kek

>>14100437
I live in Quebec and have a 10-year old 6, and it has almost no rust.

>>14099764
> get your shit together
> Ford
Ford and Mazda literally make the same fucking cars. Complimenting Mazda's platforms is the same as complimenting Ford's platforms.

>>14099793
I own a 2006 Mazdaspeed6. It's pretty amazing.

>>14100465
ford hasn't had a stake in mazda since 2010 m8

>>14099926
I think he purely means the Speed3 / 3 MPS. Which it does suck that they don't offer either of the Mazdaspeeds anymore.

>>14100465
Even when they were together the fords had worse build quality and more parts failures

>>14100393
Actually, I would say that the current generation Taurus is better than the current generation Mazda 6 just because the Taurus has the SHO. Which is an AWD twin turbo V6.

>>14100481
Ford is still one of the owners of Mazda. Also...
> since 2011
> 2015 Mustang Exoboost
> uses the same Engine as the Mazdaspeeds

>>14100555
ford has a 2.1% stake in Mazda. they have no influence on the direction of the company

>>14100528
This is a complete fabrication. Have you ever owned a Ford that shares the same platform as the Mazda or vise versa? They are all pretty great cars. And I don't know of any problems the Fords had that the Mazdas did not.

>>14100568
>This is a complete fabrication
It's not. You can Google where they get their parts from.
Like Mazda uses Mitsubishi electronics while ford used motocraft.
You can also Google failure rates of both cars. Ford messed up big time.

>>14100566
No, but they still share platforms. In fact, I don't think Ford has had a say in what Mazda does since the late 90's.

>>14100589
You can google about how you're not a faggot, but truth be told you are.

Also, are you talking about the African cars? Because you're fucking stupid. Mazda doesn't use Mitsubishi parts in the US, they use fomoco parts.

>>14099946
>needing a software update to start up
nigga what shit you smoking on?

>>14100630
Would you like me to go out to my Mazda3 and snap pictures of Mitsubishi parts?
Funny thing is the fomoco stuff is what always fails on the mazdas

>>14100690
My Mazda has 156k and I DD it. And the only thing that has ever went out on it is the clutch and the crank position sensor.

And yes, go snap pics of it and post them.

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The 6MT isn't sportscar-level good, but I'm enjoying it.

>>14100473
2006 was 10 years ago

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNq3UanRd9Q

>>14100220
That is so fucking ugly..last good looking 3 was 2nd gen mazda 3 MPS

>>14100200
I like it desu senpai

>>14101068
Perceptive. And what's your point?

>>14101205
There is currently no turbo or v6 mazda 6 for sale so your 10 year old car doesn't really factor in to anything.

>>14101231
Then buy the ten year old car. It's actually really worth it. You'd love it.

>>14100240
I've had mine for almost 2 years and still think it looks great.

Sorry about those grapes, bud

>>14100613
The only cars they current;y share is the Mazda 5 (which is being discontinued this year, and only partially based on the Ford C platform), Biante (Same as 5, but not sure if being discontinued), and Ford Focus which only still shares platforms because Ford hasn't replaced it since 2010.
>Post yfw the Focus RS chassis is designed by Mazda

>>14100566
Not even anymore. I think it's less than 1%. Mazdas website doesn't even list

>>14099793
They are making a new line of skyactiv turbo engines for 2016. Hopefully we can see one manage it's way into a Miata or Mazda 6. An AWD turbo 4 Mazda 6 would be badass. Maybe even a coupe...

>>14101442
>Post yfw the Focus RS chassis is designed by Volvo.
Ftfy

>>14101460
Only a turbo 2.5L is confirmed, and the n/a 2.5L won’t fit in the Miata at all. But it raises hopes of a Mazdaspeed 3 or 6 – if Mazda has the budget. They might not. It’d take some work because the CX-9’s engine is said to run out of steam pretty early in the rev range.

>>14100235
4-2-1 exhaust.

>>14100285
> calling it pigfag
Bench racer confirmed, Mazdas are basically lightest in class all across the board right now.

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>>14100285
I feel like this is bait. Not even good bait, just bad bait that feels insulting to even be offered to as bait.

In what world is 2900 lbs considered heavy for a car?

86/BRZ: 2800 lbs
Corvette: 3300 lbs
Mustang: 3600 lbs
GTR: 3900 lbs

So what, anything not the Miata's 2400 lbs is pig fat now?

>>14104885
Probably a Miata fag. Anything that weighs 50lbs more than a Miata is pigfat

Corvette, GTR and Mustang are pigfat though

>>14104925
And yet, are faster and handle better than the Miata.

Just letting you know at Streets of Willow...
Fastest lap times by place:
12) Shelby GT500
16) Mustang GT
26) Mustang GT
27) Mustang Boss 302
38) Shelby GT500
43) Mustang GT
45) Mustang Ecoboost
53) Shelby GT500
54) Mustang V6
63) Mazda MX5

>>14099764
>Get your shit together Ford

Funny, the last "post your car" thread was like 90% Ford. MIght as well change /o/ to F/o/rd. Ford is killing it right now. I see almost as much Mazda's in my daily commute as I see Ford's though. Mostly Mazda 3's, never MIata's and rarely 6's

>>14100285
wut

It's not a raec car for one and for two 2900 is light relative to everything else. The only things lighter are super compacts like the Fiesta and Fit. For a car that size, 2900 is amazing. I bet the doors feel like shit to close though and I bet there's lots of road noise.

>>14099890
They announced a rx concept, which i assume will get reworked heavily into the new rx

>>14099955
Friend is 6'3 and fits in a 90s miata, as long as your not a fat ass you should fit-source i am a fatass and dont fit

>>14099977
Mazda 3s are essentially the camry of mazda, they arent going to be fun if you like driving, its just a simple dd car

>>14100917
What's the difference between the sedan and this?

>>14105030
Track times don't mean shit on the touge senpai

which is where light cars are the fastest
https://youtu.be/DFTV1nU3rKI?t=24m22s

>>14105568
Wut. I have plenty of fun in my Mazda 3

>>14105659
The sedan has a trunk.
The hatch is shorter so there’s less flat space, but the opening’s larger so you can fit big boxes in there.

Also, the sedan doesn’t have cutouts in the bumper for exhaust tips – they’re hidden. That’s a little weird.

>>14105568
>Mazda 3
>Camry

Nigga no.

>>14105777
Trips checked. And a circuit run is still very relavent, Kohai. If Keiichi Tsuchiya was driving a Boss 302, he would out run any time he could make in any Miata on any back mountain roads.

>>14105568
Except that camry is miles ahead on everything

>>14107581
Meaning they need parts replaced miles ahead of any other car.

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>>14100363
>>14100385
>>14100437
I live in Ontario aswell.
Here is a picture of my 2004 mazda3 with 211k on it (was raining when I took the picture)

>>14108298
The only part that is showing signs of fucked up is the part where the rear bumper meets. some asshat backed into my car which caused the bumper to unlatch and kinda wobbles and scrapes

>>14105030
> handle better
Delusion

> oh look this car with four times as much power is faster around a track
Grats

All this stupid Mazda vs Ford vs Subaru vs Honda shit makes me happy to have moved beyond shit tier brands.

>>14108386
kek
What do you drive?
a hiooondaaiiee?

>>14108329
Yeah, that was kind of the point of the post it was replying to. A car can be significantly better even if it significantly weighs more than another car. Like the GTR vs the Corvette for instance.

A lot of people judge other cars because of old stereotypes like "it weighs more so has worse handling", "it's power to weight ratio is worse", or "American cars can't turn".

And just to let peeps know, out of the top 50 lap times of Willow Springs, 20 of those lap times are by American cars.

>>14108448
Hey, you actually pronounced that correctly. Props.

>>14108637
because an american publication tests it's cars there
check the times for bedford, tsukuba, hockenheim and they're dominated by local cars too

>>14108657
Except all cars are tested there by various car magazines. Not just American cars. Every single performance car ever made since the mid-90's.

>>14108691
Prove it.

>>14108448

911, heard those hiooondaaiiee cars are pretty good appliances these days though.

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>>14108691
>he believes this

>>14099764
Prepping my body for the Mazdaspeed3 and getting my loins frothy for a Mazda 6.

>>14108713
>>14108718
These faggots don't know what Motor Trend is and don't know that they review every single performance car weeks before the world release of the car and always test each of the cars at Willow Springs.

>>14108744
This was meant for this. My bad.
>>14108700

>>14100473
I have a 2007 GT, its alright other than the fact the MZR likes to throw rods through the block at low RPM, and it has no fucking MP3/aux/Bluetooth.

>>14108718
Thanks doc

>>14108744
Lol no they don't
For a select amount of cars sure...

>>14108876
Have you been modding it without support mods? The stock internals aren't really built to support any sort of mods and work perfectly for the stock engine. I DD mine and have never had any problems with the exception of the crank position sensor.

And you can buy an adaptor on amazon for under $20 and install it yourself. If you want, I could even talk you through the steps of doing it. Some of it can be a little tricky. But, shouldn't take more than 20-30 mins to install.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A43HOEI/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?qid=1451015590&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=xtenzi+mazdaspeed+6+aux

>>14108876
>>14108934
Also, if you choose to buy this aux adapter and install it yourself without my help, then don't try and just yank the stereo out. It has a bolt in the right side of it holding it in and you have to remove the glove compartment to get to it.

>>14105659
The sedan doesn't look quite so much like a used condom.

>>14105568
The 3 makes a Camry look like a Bentley.

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>>14100200

>>14099764
Call me when they bring back the FC chassis. Cars these days look too goddamn round, everythings the same.

>>14101106
The Ford Ranger it shares all its underpinnings with looks a million times better.

It's a shame Thailand wasn't part of the TPP since it'd be nice to have the Ranger in North America (presumably the BT50 would also be imported). Seems like the compact truck market has been picking up.

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>>14109457

>>14105566
Your friend must be all torso and hunched over. I'm 6'5 and when I drove one my legs were on either side of the steering wheel. I had to actuate the clutch with only my ankle because my legs couldn't move much. They are cars built for tiny men and I wish I were smaller because it was a great drive despite how uncomfortable it was.

>>14105074
>2900 is light
Mazda is 2900lbs curb, bone dry no driver.

You add fluids, gas, driver you're into 3200-3400lbs easy.

150hp is not enough. And it has 5 seats. Imagine putting 5 people in it, now you're close to 4000lbs and you've got 150hp to work with.

Its not enough.

>>14109789
curb weight means with fluids and driver u mong

>>14109805
>curb weight means with fluids and driver u mong
Nope.

Curb Weight

The curb weight of your vehicle is the weight of the car with all of the standard equipment and amenities, but without any passengers, cargo or any other separately loaded items in it. Thus, the curb weight is the amount that the vehicle weighs when it's resting on the curb and not in use. This is generally the standard weight that the manufacturer assigns to the car.

Gross Vehicle Weight

The gross vehicle weight is the combined weight of the vehicle and all passengers and cargo pieces in "gross," that is to say, in total. Gross vehicle weight is especially important if you're driving in a delicate area or if you're carry exceptionally heavy cargo. Gross vehicle weight is particularly important for truck drivers, who may be carrying huge quantities of cargo that might alter the total weight of the vehicle considerably.

Curb = No passangers, no fluids, all options.

Gross = Passangers, fluids, some cargo.

>>14109457
>>14109469
as much as I HNNNNNG over the T6 ranger, with the aluminum lightening of the F150 I don't think they're going to.

A Supercab (extended) F150 gets more power, weighs about the same, gets better mileage, payload and towing and has larger rear seat dimensions than a 4.0L sport trac that was using the last ranger's underpinnings.

So given the 3.5 and 2.7T options and massive weight savings it's unlikely they'll make the effort to bring it back.

>>14109816
Mazda 3 gross weight: 1930kg (4254lbs) for MAZDA3 HATCHBACK
2.2d Sport Nav 5dr Auto [Leather]

4254lbs...150hp.

Again not enough.

>>14109816
kerb weight means all fluids and 50/90/100% fuel in the tank, no driver.
you mean dry weight

>>14109835
Do you really think 150hp is enough for the gross weight of 4254lbs?

0-60 is listed 9.7 seconds, thats pretty dangerous for highway merging much too slow. Maybe for putting around a small town a Mazda 3 would be ok.

>>14109816
dude ur dumb

>Curb weight (US English) or kerb weight (UK English) is the total weight of a vehicle with standard equipment, all necessary operating consumables such as motor oil, transmission oil, coolant, air conditioning refrigerant, and a full tank of fuel

>many European Union manufacturers include the weight of a 75 kilogram driver to follow European Directive 95/48/EC

a simple google search would have saved u

>>14109830
>>14109841
where the fuck are you getting ridiculous number.

in what world does 4 people and some cargo weight 1,400lbs?
are you american? does ur family of 4 weigh half a ton?

who the fuck stuffs 5 people AND 500lbs cargo into a mazda 3.
stfu already

>>14109841
Mazda3 EU weight including 75kg driver is 1351kg. So about 3000lbs.
Dunno where you're getting 4254lbs from, maybe maximum GWVR

>>14109861
Ouch dude Mazda 3 is a turd, always has been.

2007 Mazda 3 2.0D 0-60 mph 9.8

2009 Mazda 3 1.6 0-60 mph 12.0

2010 Mazda 3i Touring Sedan 0-60 mph 8.7

2014 Mazda 3i Grand Touring Hatchback 2.0L 0-60 mph 7.7 Quarter mile 16.0


Lets see what the Civic can do.

2006 Honda Civic Si 0-60 mph 6.2 | Quarter mile 14.7

2012 Honda Civic Si Sedan 0-60 mph 6.0 | Quarter mile 14.5

2016 Honda Civic Type R Compare Car 0-60 mph 5.6


>CLEARLY the Mazda 3 is a slow, hyundai looking fig fat shit box.

>>14109903
I don't care, I don't own one it.
That doesnt change the fact that you're retarded.
First you get curb weight wrong then you confuse GVWR with it's gross weight.

I don't give a fuck about the Mazda 3. What I care about is how fucking stupid you are.

>>14106175
So, I think I will opt for the hatch. Hatch appeals more to me.

>>14105568
https://youtu.be/-UUyDqKT8fs?t=6m34s

>>14099927
wow, what a perfectly fine m3, ruined.

Mazda is da best

>>14109926
bommers: the show

>>14109975
lmao it's a diamond dozen econobox you dullard

>>14109425
That looks beautiful. Going back to what the RX platform should be.

>>14107581
I agree thats why i didnt say it was better than a camry. I said it was mazdas simple fwd dd car, like toyotas camry just not as good

>>14099793

Why the fuck does it need a v6.. Fuck a 6 cylinder car is nearly obsolete now. You either have an 8 or a turbo 4.

>>14109784
Hes really lanky so maybe that helps, hes actually a bit taller than me and fits in it better so i guess its just those miata genetics

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>>14109830
The Slomaro has been chugging 7000+ lbs of its own heavy ass weight com ones with the 300+ lbs fatass rednecks it has to support on shitty ass suspension and with only 150 bhp, practically no torque, and the engine only having a peak hp with it's power curve looking like a drawing of a fucking mountain by their redneck autistic 4 year old and not at all like a plateau that a power curve should look like for a V8.

And Camaro owners wonder why Mustangs always beat them in a dig.

Also, MERRY CHRISTMAS faggots.

Love you all and drive safe.

>>14109903
>comparing the Civic Si and Type R to the base 3, not the Mazdaspeed or S versions
smart m8

>>14100195
This. except I wasn't alive yet.

>>14100200
Looks like newer Toyota.

>>14109425
I like it. Looks fun.

>>14100123
Thats impressive nigger tier

A proper lift, actual custom 28's. The paintjob looks good from here

There's no accounting for taste, but you do have to admire proper workmanship

>>14105030
2016 Mazda MX-5 Global Cup car ran a 1:18 around Streets of Willow. Pretty sure that puts it at the top of your list by a fair margin.

>>14109903
What a retard.

Compare the proper models

>>14108934
Mine hasnt blown because I drive it gingerly. But the stock MZR can blow if you stomp on it in 6th gear under 2500rpm, the con rods just cant handle it.

>>14111610
It should only fuel starve. It shouldn't throw a rod or anything serious. And why would anyone floor it in 6th gear? You should just drop it into 4th gear.

>>14111401
Try a 1:29:91 for the 2016 MX-5. The fastest time ever recorded around Willow Springs' Streets of Willow is a 1:19:07 in a GTR Nismo.

>>14099764
>Get your shit together Ford

Why are like %30 of Mazda parts Stamped FoMoCo then?

>>14111699
Because Mazda doesn't make parts that are meant for highway use since most places is Jap-land is close-knit.

My coworker has a 05' 3 78,000KM the fucking parking brake and tach don't even work kek

>>14111847
>Mazda is GOAT
>Just not good enough to make their own quality parts

>>14111899
It's hard to determine what manufacturer is GOAT, but Mazda sure isn't lacking much.

If I had to pin it down to five companies, I'd say Mazda, Ford, Toyota, Subaru, and Porsche.

Though, Porsche is going to start lacking if VW can't shake this diesel fiasco.

>>14100220
Don't listen to them. It's a great car. Looking forward to getting one in the next few years.

>>14109903
Are you really comparing a 1.6 Mazda to the Civic Si?

>>14109903
> comparing a Turbo Civic to an NA 3
> try comparing Turbo to Turbo
> 2016 Civic Type-R 0-60 in 5.6 sec
> 2006 Mazdadpeed6 0-60 in 5.3 sec
> 2007 Mazdaspeed3 0-60 in 5.4 sec
> 10 years older and still faster
ftfy

>>14112147
I thought the speed6 was low 6 seconds. Either way I'm looking to sell my current funsie car and pick one up, just to have a $13K cheaper car

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>>14110393
>a 6 cylinder car is nearly obsolete now
look who's talking out of their ass

>>14112381
Well, while they are great cars, look into replacing the fuel pump and get an turbo timer. It has a by-pass valve, so a bov isn't necessary, but getting a good bov still won't hurt.

Fair warning though, the interior is rather Spartan class. No aux, USB, or shit. And you have to get a aux adapter on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A43HOEI/ref=pd_aw_sim_422_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41%2BqOl2YS0L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C78_&refRID=0APT6GMXN05HM4TAJAA3

And the install is a little tricky. You have to remove the entire console panels up to the arm rest. Don't try and pull the stereo out first thing, it has a bolt in the right side of it holding it in place. Pull off the glove compartment to access the bolt from the left opening. Pull the stereo out and then plug it into the left port and put back together.

Other than that minor inconvenience, it's a fun car and holds up really well. No shitty WRX-level plastic panels that rattle. Shift at 2k and keep it under boost, and you can get 22-26mpg city and 28-32mpg highway. Clutch is light and smooth as fuck. It catches damn near everywhere due to the dual mass flywheel. Which, btw never get at a dealership, they will want $1200. You can get a $562 one on partsgeek.com. Clutch kit is only $206 also. And as long as you don't beat on it like it's a Honda, then it'll last you a good 250k-300k mi before any internal work needed.

>>14112588
I actually had a 2003? Mazda6 v6 and the only thing I did to it was that aux cable add. Have any good links to the awd system? Iirc it's a 50 split to rear or front with I wanna say lsd front?

Any idea on the kind of power it can put down with just a fbo?

>>14109425
Im surprised no ones said how much this looks like an rx8 now that youve added the economy package of windows

I dream of having a speed6 DD and a miats of any year in my driveway

>>14112721
The AWD system kicks in under boost or with wheel slippage. It does only put up to 50% to the rear and it does have posi-traction for the front end when only FWD mode.

Well, any modifications done to it should start with internals. They are only good for stock power. But, I've seen these beasts put out over 700 awhp with internals, bolt one, and a turbo upgrade.

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>>14099764
Have me third Mazda.
Love the cars.
But... why dont they ever learn to do some good undercoating???

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>>14099793
tfw europoor never got to get the v6 option
tfw europoor dont even get the 2.5 option on the Mazda 3

>>14115151
The 2.3L is better built than the V6 models.

>>14099955
>tfw your mother's ex is 6' 4" and drives an mx5

>>14108876
I have a 2006 ms6 with a 2010 ms3 motor. Is there any way to lower the risk of that happening? Do I need new rods and pistons? I've also heard that a good tune can make it extremely unlikely that this happens.

>>14117939
Well, if you don't mod it at all then you'll be fine the way it is now. If you want to mod it at all, then yes, definitely start with dished pistons and connecting rods. And as for tuning a stock MZR engine, it's really not necessary but, doing a safe detune on it to run better mpg is just dulling it down when it's an amazing engine on it's own.

>>14117939
Bigger turbo. The original k04 can spool too quick and push too much torque through the engine. The engine has too much low end torque, bigger turbo will shift the torque higher, where it's more useful in racing and wont bend your rods.

Bigger turbo and uprated HPFP and you'll be good to go if you did little else. FMIC conversion would be cake too bc fuck heatsoak

>>14118386
>>14118540
I have a CPE CAI and turboback exhaust w/ cat delete and a turbo smart 50/50 BOV. That's not considered too heavy of shit is it?
Also I've noticed a ton of people recommending switching to a FMIC as opposed to the stock top. Any particular reason?
I'm having an issue with stuttering badly at high throttle right now, but I'm pretty sure it's just my MAF (I killed one driving in the rain a month ago and I've been having issues ever since then). Pretty sure it's just a shit autozone MAF.

>>14099764
I have a 2010 Mazda3 2.5 fully loaded and i love it. Its a great daily and its got a little pep. Plus the Bose sound system is nice as fuck

>>14099926
Wut... The new one is definitely uglier. Fuc off

>>14109273
Mazda 3 looks horrible shitboxes tho

>>14118706
Get a fucking tune

>>14100414

Yet they still can't seem to figure out eletronics.

>>14118799
I'm going to get it tuned by Freektune once I get the whole MAF thing sorted out. OEM replacement is due here in a week or so

>>14119070
Went full turbo back with cat delete. Boy you're overboosting.

>>14099764
I drive an 04 Mazda 6 GT Wagon
Handles like a dream and power isn't bad either

>>14119081
You betcha. Spiking at 25 and throwing codes left and right f a m. I stay way off of full throttle. Most boost my car sees is 10-12 lbs

>>14119304
You're gonna feel like you're flying once you get the tune.

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>>14119304
If you're running the stock turbo and 25 psi, you're going to blow it. That small turbo is already maxed out from factory at 15 psi. And as for losing power at you're too end, you could be getting spark blowout. Try getting upgraded ignition coils and iridium spark plugs. A tune is preferred, but the MAF should take care of that if it's working properly.

But, you are definitely getting close to the point of needing upgraded forged internals. The moment you get a tune or push that little turbo too far you're probably going to throw a rod or destroy a piston.

And as for the fmic, I wouldn't worry about it. Personally, I would try and get a better hood with vents over the tmic. I know there is one that has vents shaped like the Evo hood vents. Or you could get one with a hood scoop similar to the new STi hoods. Pic related.

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>>14120166
Evo style hood.

>>14099993
>their "sports car" miata is an under powered pos

The new Miata is the fastest one ever by a significant margin. It has a sub 6s 0-60 which is roughly or faster than what many Corvette models did in the 80s.

Jesus. I guess in 30 more years people are going to expect 0-60 in 2s from $30k sports cars even though that's not remotely safe.

The new ND is like fast enough to feel pretty quick, while being slow enough that you can floor it without killing yourself effortlessly. It's a good amount of power. It looks underpowered by its HP number, but it's not. It's only a touch slower than the S2000, faster than the BRZ, and better handling than both are stock.

Laguna Seca, driven by Randy Pobst:
2016 Miata Club 1:50.68
2006 Honda S2000 1:50.74
2013 Subaru BRZ 1:51.30
2009 Miata 1:52.18

You get a faster, better build quality, better engineered, just as good looking S2000 for more than $10,000 less (adjusted for inflation) than the S2000 cost new. The ND will be a classic if Mazda can't outdo themselves again with the NE which I doubt regulations in the future will allow for.

Also keep in mind that they are measuring crank HP, and I think the ND only loses about 10-15 of that 155hp when it reaches the wheels.

>>14100006
>cars as long as full size pick up trucks.
106 inches long.
The Ford Ranger is 189.4" to 203.6″ long.

Sooo, it's almost half the length. Damn kid, you suck at math. The Ford Ranger isn't a full size pickup truck. An F150 is 227.9" to 250.5″

You should give up and quit cars.

>>14112808
Because it doesn't.

It looks like an FD with the wheels closer to the corners and a sharper nose. It looks more like the FD does than any other car does, but with some AMG GTS or Aston Martin mixed in.

>>14120625
I kind of see what you mean with the FD, especially with that profile. That front end is sinfully ugly though, they got to fix that. Rear end is better, but that's not saying much. And it goes without saying it has nothing on the pure sex of the FD's tail light design.

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>>14120644
I love the DRLs. If it has those DRLs and small headlights, I will get it.
The way the small headlights are makes them look(and they're positioned) like the DRLs on the FD. And the DRLs on the RX Vision form a seam that makes them look like the popups of the FD. As an FD owner, I love it soooo much.

The side vents look messed up. But their concepts keep having those and never making them to production.
This is the least production-ready concept Mazda has shown ups in about 8 years. It will have some more changes than usual (but I hope to god those DRLs and headlights stay...)

I think it's something that looks way better in person once you get the scale of it and how the opening really isn't that good and perfectly reasonable for a rotary's cooling needs. The roof is definitely going to be raised a few inches.

It's the same with the ND. It looked bad to me with all the waist angle shots. But when you see it in person, it looks great.

>>14120683
>This is the least production-ready concept Mazda has shown ups in about 8 years

holy shit i totally agree. it's like you are the only person on /o/ that has been awake for the past 10 years and/or understands what a concept is

the car will change

a lot

>>14120706
I wouldn't say it'll change A LOT. But it'll change more than any other concept they've shown in the past 8 years has.
But it's not as far away from production as the concepts they were doing from 95-2007 were.

The front will change a bit. Its dimensions will change a bit. The rear is probably going to change a lot. The roof will be higher.

I hope the DRLs, headlights, low hood that's lower than the wheels, overall design, and how little fender there is above the front wheels all stays.
I'd also love if it actually has carbon fiber wheels and uses a bit elsewhere (not as interior trim) as well.

>>14120616
> Miata has sub-six 0-60 mph
Literally 5.9 sec 0-60 mph. My four door, AWD, "pigfat" 3600 lbs Mazdaspeed6 is a half a second faster than your beloved lightweight Miata. Running at 5.4 sec 0-60 mph.

> faster than many 80's Corvettes
Literally only one. The 1980 Corvette California Special which had 150 hp due to California's strict emissions laws at the time. Possibly the worst car ever made ever. And congrats that your 2016 "sports car" is faster than this 150 hp 1980 piece of garbage.

> 0-60 mph in 2 sec isn't safe
My Cobra is almost in the 0-60 mph in 2 sec range. It's pretty safe. Never once lost control of it. I've done plenty of digs in it and plenty of laps in it. I'm starting to suspect you don't know what you're talking about.

> new Miata feels pretty quick
Have you driven one? Chances are you haven't. And if so and you think it "feels" pretty quick, then you have literally never driven a fast car in your life. Again, my 4 door Mazda is faster both in acceleration and around a track.

> can floor it without killing yourself
You know what. The Miata is the best car for you. Low probability of hurting yourself or anyone else. Because apparently you can't drive well enough to not fuck a car with another car just because of acceleration.

> it's a good amount of power
No it's not.

> it looks underpowered
Because it is underpowered. It's not made for street racers or track drivers. It's made for old men and women to have their "picnic car".

And my "pigfat" 2006 4-door Mazda is faster an better handling then your beloved "sports car" 2016 Miata. In fact, my "pigfat" 2003 Mustang Cobra is miles ahead of your beloved 2016 Miata in both speed and handling. And everyone seems to say that Mustangs can't turn and are slow pigfat cars. And yet, it's still faster than that 2016 Miata around any and all tracks. So... What does that make the Miata? Slow? Yes. Very slow. Shitty handling? Meh. It's okay at best.

>>14120616
> check these Leguna Seca times
Shelby GT500: 1:38.70
Boss 302 LS: 1:39.50
Mazdaspeed3: 1:50.38
Mazda RX-8: 1:50.42

Shit, even the Speed 3 and RX-8 are faster? This is some heavy white knighting for the Miata.

> better built than S2000
I like to see the Miata engine hold 500 rwhp. Also, no Miata has held the resale value of a S2000 ever.

> emissions standards won't allow for a better car to be made than the ND
Bitch, there are currently better cars being made than the ND. Faster, better handling, higher hp/tq, and all out actual tract cars. Hell, the Shelby GT350 is vastly superior to the ND. In literally every regards. And emissions allowed this behemoth to be manufactured. And emissions won't stop another one and even better one from being made in the future.

> only loses 10-15 hp to the wheels
Bitch, that's less than 10%. The best built track cars lose somewhere between 10%-12% hp to the wheels. No way is the Miata losing less than that. Majority of cars lose 15%. Now, no one has dyno'd a 2016 Miata, because no one cares, but it would be more along the lines of 130-135 rwhp. Don't give me that shit of 10-15 hp loss.

> tells some anon he should give up and quit cars
While that anon said "full sized truck" and named the smallest truck made, which is rather stupid, you should actually be the one to give up and quit cars. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. Damn near everything in this post is inaccurate.

>>14099764
cx3 is shit.
what's the point of making a crossover off the 2 platform?

>>14120683
whoever designed this doesn't understand how suspension works and is a stancefag.

>>14121395
Because Japan.

>>14099764
They're not as good as they once were. The 2008 3 (sedan) has space saver trunk hinges with gas struts. Now they have lame gooseneck luggage crushers and they're built in mexico. And i'm somewhat of a mazda fanboy.

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>>14121388
>Have you driven one? Chances are you haven't. And if so and you think it "feels" pretty quick, then you have literally never driven a fast car in your life.
I own a reasonably modified FD.

Driven both the NC and ND. The ND is a huge improvement in both handling and acceleration.

>>14121389
So your times show that it's only 0.2s slower than the RX8 and Mazdaspeed 3. How is that bad?

It's track times are better than more expensive cars
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 2:05.80 193 / 1455
Ford Mustang GT 2:09.90 159 / 1483
Those are cars priced around what it is, not the fucking GT500. Are you retarded?

The S2000 was much more expensive when new, and the ND is faster than it. It's faster than the BRZ that's around the same price. Faster than the Mustang GT, which again is around the same price.

>Bitch, that's less than 10%. The best built track cars lose somewhere between 10%-12% hp to the wheels.
Blue line is stock and 142 peak HP.
I have seen dynos as low as 132 HP though, likely due to climate and other factors.

Also, measuring parasitic loss in % is stupid. It's not linear as horsepower increases.

Mazda has just been reducing friction where ever they can, including the drivetrain. Less loss between the engine and wheels means better fuel economy.

I await your butthurt response where you deny all these things that prove you wrong and show how stupid your argument is, thanks.

>>14121395
The CX-3 is basically Mazda's Cayenne. A shit-taste-mobile that'll make them lots of money so they can make the RX-7 FE.

It seems to be selling better than the Mazda2 was despite being a worse car. Need another year of numbers to really tell, though.

>>14121497
I don't think the CX3 is worse than a Mazda 2. They're completely different cars. The CX3 is just a Mazda 3 SUV thing.

The Mazda 2 was their attempt at the cheapest, most fun to drive, most reliable car.

>>14121487
> say you own a modified FD
If so, that's great. Those are significantly better track cars.

> ND is better than the NC
Well, I most certainly hope so. But, the ND is still worse in speed and handling than older 4-door Mazdaspeeds. So, don't act like the ND is anything spectacular. Because it's not. Why are you even comparing it to anything what so ever? It's not meant to be compared to actual sports cars. And that's okay. It's not meant to be some track car. It's just a fun little car for old people.

> how is it bad that it's slower than an RX8
I think that speaks for itself. RX8s are pretty bland cars when it comes to the power curve and tend to fall on their face when going into a corner.

I'm what regards is a ND being faster than an third generation Z28 a good thing? And in what regards is a third generation Z28 ever been a more expensive car than the ND? The ND didn't out track the newer Z28 that costs $75k. It out tracked a limp dicked 80's Z28. Congrats. Same for the Mustang GT that made slower times than the ND. The newer Z28/GT lap times are significantly faster than the ND.

> look at this chart it says less than a <10% loss
Says right in the pic that it's an exhaust dyno. Not a dyno jet. Do you know the difference? An exhaust dyno is rating the power of the engine, not the power to the wheels. Meaning, your beloved 155 hp ND is actually making 143.7 hp to the flywheel. Not to the wheels. But, nice try kiddo.

Stop posting bullshit from other "Miata Mustard Race" threads. Because you are literally grasping at straws and tying to bullshit them into a pedestal to hold the Miata in high regards.

The Miata is not a sports car. It's not a race car. It's not a track car. It's not a fast car. It's not a quick car. It's not a superior car.
> muh light weights
You know who drives Miatas?
Old men, old women and neckbeards.

>>14115151
2.5L US Market Mazda3 Sport is awesome. More torque than any non-turbo 4cyl should.

With gearing and everything it feels like the amount of torque my Jeep and it's AMC 4.0 + AX-15 Combo make, only it doesn't run out of steam over 3200rpm.

I STILL miss the complete screamer that my lightly built D15B was, tighter valve springs and tweaked LMA, bounced it of the 8200rpm fuel cut-off ALL DAY without it flinching. BUT it was a dog until you spun it over 5500rpm.

>>14121487
>I own a reasonably modified FD.
cool story bro

>>14121530
Uhhh the CX-3 has less interior space, cargo volume, and fuel economy than the Mazda3.

Is a tune for a mazda6 worth it. Heard Orangevirus is burty gud.

>>14122072
No.

>>14120166
It spikes because of the exhaust. I don't get up there consistently because I know it's bad for it. Anyways... Am I really going to need new internals with only that much done? I mean, I would think that exhaust, intake, and tune would only have me around ~290 at the crank...

>>14123214
They are 270 bhp to the crank, that tune must be nerfing your gains. You should be making somewhere around 260-270 awhp. And that's quite a jump from stock awhp. Remember, the stock internals aren't the best and only hold up under stock hp/tq. So, if you have it tuned down like that, and know from a dyno that it's making low power, then it's fine. But, if the tune on it was made to get the most out of those mods, then the engine's internals won't hold that power for long term. Year and a half, maybe two years tops depending on how you are driving it.

Personally, I would want to get the most out of the car since it's already modified. I would go ahead and get dished forged pistons, forged connecting rods, and an upgraded turbo. But, that's just me.

Also, if you don't have a turbo timer and a blow off valve, get them.

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So is mazda really going RWD across the board? I was gonna sell my diesel lancer and get a mazda 6 sometime late 2016 but I'd totally wait for the RWD line-up

Where were you when Mazda became the GOAT manufacturer?
>became

Not happened yet, although there is a good chance they will in the next few years. If they will, I hope to be at the stealership ordering a new RX. So far it's not sure whether either of us can make it, meaning Mazda and myself.

>>14115141
so the 3rd parties can make $$$$$$

>>14099764
Bathing in that 14:1 skyactiv compression

>>14108306
>>14108298
>>14100437
Don't have any rust problems with my 2005 Mazda 3 considering mine is an ex insurance purchase that was totaled due to it being submerged in muddy floodwaters.

Then again my Mazda was built in the Philippines so they may have different rustproofing to cope with the humid SE Asian climate.

>>14123687
I have a blow off valve but no turbo timer. However, I religiously let the car sit at idle for at least a minute both after starting it and before shutting it off.

>>14123701
Super doubtful. I'm sure the CX cars would still be FWD. I doubt they're going to make rwd econoboxes.
Though it's not totally out there considering the long hoods to fit the larger exhaust headers have pretty much given their small cars long enough hoods to fit the engines mounted normally. May as well mount them for RWD which also leaves plenty of room for large headers.

But maybe there may be a RWD Mazda6 coupe.

It's not the execs calling for more RWD vehicles. It's the engineers.
A lot of these engineers working at Mazda have been there for 20 years or more and were attracted to a company that changed a lot under Ford, and they're longing to make that stuff again.
The new RX-7 is basically their demands being met. But maybe there could be more.

>>14099926
They are uglier. Smiley face is happy to meet you, and wants to drive around and have fun.

The other one looks like a tired old grandpa with a big nose.

Roomate has a 2012 Mazda 6, the last year before the Ford-Mazda divorce.

YFW his 6 was built in Michigan, has a Ford Cyclone V6, and uses Lincoln underpinnings.

Too bad they chintzed out on the GPS system and media center. He needs CDs to update and has no ability to play SD cards

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>Brap brap brap