>2016 >most cars will still have halogen headlights stock

More shit that needs expensive repairs, yay!

>>14038870
>poorfag shows up to ruin the party

>>14038877
post your car so we can all laugh at you

Newer is not better, OP.
Any decently designed halogen headlight is more than adequate.

Besides that, the warm white color temperature of halogen light is generally much more conductive for seeing contrast than shitty cool white garbage xenons or LED - and dazzles oncoming traffic much less.

The only really good arguments you can make for Xenon, LED, and Laser over Halogen is that they last longer and use less power - so it's a bit less maintenance and a bit less gasoline used, and it's easier to develop adaptive headlights for them than it is for Halogen.

>>14038850
There's nothing wrong with halogen headlights and we aren't 'well into' LED headlights. Expect LED headlights to become the new standard, though.

>>14038943
>>14038900
>>14038886
>>14038870
If you drive a car with halogens you can go

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>Halogens will be stock

Meaning XENON/LED will be an upgrade, for which you must pay extra.

How do you not understand that automakers are a business, and that they wish to make money? Your kekish obsession with stupid shit like LEDs will grow these companies to epic proportions. Buy into the gimmicks little goy, keep the machine going.

>>14038850

>tfw the asshole who ordered my E90 new didn't get xenons

thanks a lot you cheap fag.

>>14038850
I work in the lighting industry (for buildings but whatever) and LED is still in its infancy. While we are moving further and further towards it becoming the standard it will be a long time before the price of LED matches that of halogen or flourescent. It's getting closer, and it's becoming easier to justify the cost, but for now seeing incan lighting isn't surprising.

>>14038966
>benchracer doesn't have a car and attempts damage control

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>>14038991

>buying a new BMW
>getting the base model with no options

Fucking lol, some people are absolutely pathetic. It's not even like a base model Toyota where you get a shitton of stuff loaded into the vehicle.

>I gotta have that BMW badge

Does anyone even think BMWs are impressive anymore? I feel like they're so commonplace that even posers and wannabes know a 3 series is just a worthless piece of shit.

>>14038966
Just traded a car with bi-xenons in towards one with halogens.

literally do not give a fuck, both are fine

>>14039006
there is a huge difference for a car mate
the led can run straight off the 12v

they can be a fuckload cheaper than in a building for this reason.

>>14038991
Well them replace them you fool

http://www.tuningpeinelt.de/bmw-e90-e91-limousine-scheinwerfer-angel-eyes-schwarz?gclid=CjwKEAiAy7SzBRD_lv7quOnr6XUSJAAOLkW6CvmT-KaQM-ApJAYCCc7Gs7P7UEDN_AmOLkV-DpdvpxoCXorw_wcB

https://youtu.be/hFQcsGtdjaY

>>14039006
>I work in the lighting industry (for buildings but whatever)
Yea, you actually aren't more qualified to speak on this than anyone else here.

>>14039006
LEDs for consumers are actually pretty affordable now. Picked up two 60 watt replacements for $6.95 CAD. Supposed to last years.

CFLs are shit, always have been. They were a terrible stopgap measure between EVIL incandescent lighting and the messiah of energy conservation.

>>14038850
>not having bi-xenon headlights
>2015

shigs

>>14038991
or even better

>that asshole that bought a 70k€ 335d F30 with halogens

>>14039015

Yeah it's a pretty stripped out model, which is fine. I like the "leatherette" fine, finding a 6MT was a gift from god, and I'm glad it doesn't have iDrive which is shit. The only things they paid for were xDrive and power heated seats.. seems weird.

I didn't get it because I'm a badgewhore, i test drove about 30 cars before I decided I liked the overall driving feels of an E90 over everything else.

>>14039022
>the led can run straight off the 12v
What the hell is this supposed to mean?
>>14039024
That's fake garbage he shouldn't put on his car.

>>14039027

>LED fanboi is now butthurt

kek

>>14039024

I'm pretty wary of cheap aftermarket headlights. I'm sure you need coding and shit to make it work properly.

>>14039043

>power heated seats

That is some granny shit. A fudd owned your car.

>>14039063

Probably. It's an '11 with 32,000KM on it. The power seats are great though, and the heat is nice on those cold mornings.

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>>14039055
Sorry didn't realize those were aftermarket, but still they're cheaper than originals and probably look better too.

I like the stock headlights in my S2000. As long as the lights illuminate the road ahead of me so that I don't crash, I couldn't give a fuck about what bulb is used though.

>>14039084

wow you are a shitty bench racer

do you not understand that having LEDs means you can TELL people your car has LEDs? i mean, LEDs are SO impressive, they're like the NEWEST thing and totally haven't been around for over 2 decades in normal mainstream use

>BUT NOW THEY'RE IN CARS SO IT'S A NEW THING

>>14039070
>but still they're cheaper than originals
The reason for that is that they're slapped together bullshit.

>>14038900
>dazzles oncoming traffic much less
The reason people think this is because you always see dumb hick fucks with their riced out trucks with them. They just swap in the xenon lamps without changing the housing and don't bother to tune them so they point down at the road properly.
It doesn't help that they're all lifted too.

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>>14038850

>another thread where poorfags shit on new technology because they can't afford it

I'm poor as fuck but I still hate these threads
I bet you fagots want crank start to be a thing again

>>14038850
LEDS still dont keep the lenses warm

>>14039129
It isn't just trucks, far too many people get ebay HID light kits for their cars and know nothing about adjusting or setting up headlights.
It's people doing things like that to their cars and trucks that have places actually banning replacing the headlights with a different type (can't go from halogen to hid even if you do it right).

>>14039276
Having driven a Model T, cranks are fun as hell. Plus, it's anti-theft that can break the fingers or wrist of the person trying to steal your car since they don't know how to properly do so.
On a serious not they'd be awful on a modern car, but throwing new shit onto a car before it's developed enough in that application to be reasonably reliable is not great for the average consumer. Better to keep the finicky fancy things to the really expensive cars to start with and repair them with the required services the car gets anyways.

I don't think i can go back to halogen lights after having LEDs. They're just so much better.

>>14039494
What car?

>>14038850
>CRI
HALOGEN CANNOT BE BEAT

>tfw all your cars still have sealed beams

>>14039772
this

>>14039712
Acura TLX. I can't imagine what the "laser" lights are like.

>>14039799
Oh, those funny looking 'Jewel Eye' lights? Are they really that good?

>>14039808
Yup thats them. They look pretty neat and they are miles ahead of the halogens I had on my civic. I think LED really does make a difference. And if the lights fuck up you just swap the whole assembly, but I doubt they would need replacement for at least 10 to maybe 15 years.

>>14039838
Honestly you'll probably have to replace the whole luminaire due to UV damage before one of the LEDs dies. Enjoy it, bruh.

>>14039772
>not converting them to H4 housings

>>14039043
They probably got the seats and AWD because they expected to drive it in snow/cold.

>>14039063
Confirmed for living in a shit southern state. Heated seats are a godsend for those who live in colder areas.

>>14038850
Manufacturers use halogens to save cost. The thing I don't get is why base premium cars like the 3 series have halogen lights. When you're paying like $40k for a car, even if it's a base model, it should at least have better lights than a Yaris.

>>14039935
>premium cars like the 3 series
Only in America
>you're paying like $40k for a car
Only in America

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>>14038850
Why not just add your own LEDs?

>>14039919
>They probably got the seats and AWD because they expected to drive it in snow/cold.

Probably, but it was serviced in a city that gets almost zero snow. It's possible they lived a few hours north where they do, I guess.

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>>14039738
THIS MOTHERFUCKERS.

>>14039943
because none of that is road legal or effective lighting.

>>14039965
Mine conform to my state's vehicle code and they're brighter than the sun. If I were to point them straight forward, I'd blind people miles down the road.

>>14039979
>Mine conform to my state's vehicle code
I doubt that. Even if they did, I doubt they are FMVSS 108 compliant. There's more to good lighting than brightness.

>>14039939
America has different options for BMWs than Europe. Our base 3 series is the 320i, but most people here consider the 328i as base (I'd say about 85% of 3 series here are 328i).

Europe's base model 3 series is a 318i that puts out 136 HP. It's closer to a Corolla than a 328i.

>>14039991

You don't have the 320i or 323i in the US? We have them in Canada.

>>14039998
>You don't have the 320i or 323i in the US

No. Lowest model is the 328.

>>14038850
Most of it is because the US has retardedly slow to update regulations, and that's why none of the fancy german car laser auto headlights are sold here, even though they're better. We were stuck with sealed beams until 1984 when the rest of the world had flush composite headlights, which is also why popups were popular.

>>14040020
>Most of it is because the US has retardedly slow to update regulations
No.

>>14040018

The E90 325i was in america.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/bmw-325i-short-take-road-test

>>14040028
But it's true bud.

>>14040028
If that's not true, feel free to provide a source. Until then, remember that European cars started having composite headlights in the 60's and our laws prevented them from selling those here without replacing them with shit sealed beams until 1984 when Ford pressured the legislators to allow them, even though replaceable bulb-style headlights are much better.

>>14040018
This isn't true, I've seen F30 320is in the US.

Also, technically the 328d that they sell in the US is actually the 318d or 320d (I can't remember) that they sell in the rest of the world, just re-badged.

>>14040052
That's why I said technically the 320i is the base, but most people consider the 328i (2016 330i) the base.

>>14040106

>They sell the 320i but arbitrarily i've decreed that the 328i is the base

this doesn't make any sense anon

A better complaint is, why is plastic still being used? We went from glass, which will work well forever through anything short of completely shattering it, to plastic that fogs up and is ruined in a few years. I'm sure a better glass lens could be made nowadays.

>>14040182
It's cheaper and slightly more durable when rocks are involved.

>>14040221
Also it weighs less and is more easily recycled.

>>14040221
>>14040227
All fair points, though I wonder what all the advances in glass making that smartphones have brought could do about the durability.

>>14040260
Using gorilla glass for headlights would probably be cost prohibitive, especially with how fuckhueg headlights are these days. They don't need to be more expensive than they already are.

Sealed beam is the best.

>been made forever
>cheap
>fresh new lens on every new bulb
>conversion housings exist if you're a fag who can't appreciate greatness

>>14040269
why not sapphire headlights and windows iphone style

>bring my e46 in for tranny service
>they give me a loaner F30 320i
>it has halogen headlights
>e46 has xenons
>take the F30 out for a drive with girl
>slow as piss
>steering feels like piss
>can't see fucking SHIT
>people will pay around 40 grand for this crap

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>my 2002 3 Series has factory OEM full LED tail lights and factory OEM bi-xenon
>2002


>see F30 plebs in 2015 with incandecent head and tail lights

>>14041075
>320i
Well there's your problem. That car literally exists in the US for people who want to say they have a BMW but can't afford a proper one.

>>14043365
>factory OEM bi-xenon
I'm fairly sure that wasn't a thing. You might have had HID projector headlights, but not 'bi-xenon'.

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>>14038850
Just add more lights if you have problems seeing.

>>14043418
I do. They have shutters. 2002 was the first year for this on the E46

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421528

>>14043522
Huh, guess the halogen is for flash to pass or something. That's pretty cool.

Halogens are fine, I just find it funny how a supposed "luxury German automobile" doesn't come standard with projector housings when my 90s Nissan had them standard

>>14039943
>LED light bar on an s30

Just fucking kill yourself senpai

>high output bulbs draw 55/60w
>comparable LED draws less than 15

This shit bugs the hell out of me. I'd rather have more running lights giving me more illumination for that same power draw.

>>14039738
>>14039963
High CRI LEDs have existed for a long time. They're used in video production because they replicate sunlight so well. Some nicer ones have ratings over 95. Its really hard to make a distinction when you get much over 80 anyway.