Why is the LS the best v8 Evar? >inb4 meme engine https:

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it fits well into spaces other v8 will not

>>14012496
It's really just a shitty overhyped underengineered boat anchor.

Why don't you educate yourself on performance vehicles a little before making any kind of claims on what should be called a good engine?

http://www.onpointdyno.com/?p=3857

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its not

>>14012532
that's a compliment.
5.7L being able to hold it

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it's cheap easy reliable horsepower.
you can make more power with less money.
plus it's so fucking easy to modify.

>best V8 ever
>not the Oldsmobile Super Rocket

>>14012559
cant be this dumb

>>14012587
those OHC engines with 5.7L would not be able to be carried.
5.7L ls6 380lbs is ONE of the lightest V8s out there.

I don't know about the best ever but it's relatively cheap and easy to mod. Early LS engines were god tier in their day so they built a reputation for making good power and destroying the competition. Plus you shove an LS into literally anything and make it better.

>>14012559
a 5.7L rotary would weigh over 1,000lbs

>>14012612
>Plus you shove an LS into literally anything and make it better.

>actually beliving this

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There is only one acceptable V8 engine, the VK45

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>>14012636
my nigga

toyota UR is also good

>>14012616
A 5.7L rotary with the same power/l as the renesis would also make over 1000hp naturally aspirated.

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>>14012635
u sound like a JDM guy who gets triggered by LS swaps.

>>14012660
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

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>>14012660
>some dummy ruins his car

why would that make me mad?

fastest s2000 have the stock F20c in it anyway

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>>14012658
and would weigh twice as much as a 10.4L big block
and literally not fit in anything.

>>14012660
Nice to see someone actually do something good with one of those shitboxes.

>>14012670
except it wont
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2IFWveYBRs

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>>14012671
LS POWER!!!

People seriously over rate its ability to make power and durability
They can't make much power than stock without extensive internal upgrades, literally cannot take any boost, and the ones that came boosted from factory can barely handle the stock levels of boost, and when treated like a performance engine is meant to be treated they fall apart fast

Still decent engines

>>14012673
have fun getting that to fit in anything.
nothing like a 75/25 weight balance.

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>>14012680
is this bait?
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-1109-stock-gm-ls-engine-big-bang-theory/

>>14012682
its around the same as a chrysler big block tho

>>14012689
> iron block vortec truck engine
I thought we were talking actual ls engines here

>>14012696
LS is anything from 4.8-7.4
the truck engines are just iron versions of LS engines.

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>>14012671
this

ditching the shitbox around the engine is probably the smartest move

not as smart as a turbo kit tho

>>14012531
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2015/12/09/gm-bowling-green/77035754/

General Motors Co. announced Wednesday that it will invest $44 million at its Bowling Green Assembly Plant in Kentucky to increase capacity at its Performance Build Center, creating 36 new jobs.

the 2016 LT4 6.2-liter V-8 engine for the Z06 is built at the center.

>>14012708
Wow congrats, americans buy shitty cars, what else is new?

If you'd read the article instead if being an autist, you'd understand why american performance cars are a joke.

>>14012689
>dyno runs

>>14012708
it's too bad the LT4 is neutered by the Z06s inability to cool it.
guys on the forums are getting 30mpg with those things

THE LS IS 100% FROM TOP TO BOTTOM A FORD ENGINE.
1. FORD FIRING ORDER.
2. FORD OILING SYSTEM.
3. FORD CROSS BOLT MAINS.
4. FORD COOLING SYSTEMS.
5. FORD 10 BOLT HEAD PATTERN.
6.FORD CENTERED THRUST BEARING.
7. FORD SYMMETRICAL INTAKE AND EXHAUST PORTS COMBINED WITH FORD 427 HIGH RISER PORTS.
8. SODIUM FILLED V ALVES (FORD RACE VALVE).
9. BEEHIVE VALVE SPRINGS (FORD COSWORTH).
10. FORD ANGLED PLUG.
THE LS BLOCK IS A COPY OF THE 4.6 MODULAR WITH THICKER WEBBING.

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>>14012714
You seem to be mad about something. Im just providing relevant information from the news and you have to act like a god tier dick bag. Have a nice day.

>>14012715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ni2gPo5Us
watch a junkyard 6.0 freighttrain lambos and GTRs

Modular>LS

>>14012718
Lt4 also has issues in the caddy

> 30mpg
With cylinder deactivation, super super long overdrive gears and GMs shitty fuel consumption calculator? Yeah sure
Meanwhile in the real world peolle struggle to get above 14mpg in the city driving like an old man

>>14012725
eww copypasta

>>14012726
>americans can't build decent cars
>gets mad at being told the truth
you sure are stupid aren't you.

>>14012733
old LS1 cars got 30mpg highway, tested with the tank not the dash.
they are the most fuel efficient V8 over 500Hp in the world.

Lt4 has zero cooling issues in the CTs-V

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>>14012737
Guess what buddy my Mustang will kill anything you drive (in a straight line) with just a few simple mods

Engine:
-LS2 out of a 2005 GTO
-New Procharger D1SC (literally about 10 miles on it)
-ID1000 Injectors
-Fast LSXR Fuel Rails
-Fast Fuel Crossover Line
-Fast LSX 102 Intake Manifold
-95mm Throttlebody
-Bosch 044 fuel pumps
-Jay Racing 044 fuel stock
-ID1k fuel injector adaptor hats
-Aeromotive Fuel Pressure regulator and filter
-Texas Speed PRC Heads
-Chromolly Pushrods
-Stainless Steel Valve Springs
-ECS Big Blower Cam

Interior:
-RacePak IQ3 with all supporting hardware
-Recaro SPG seats
-Racequip seat belt harnesses
-Sparco Steering Wheel
-NRG Quick release hub
-Autopower Roll Bar
-ECU has been flashed with HP Tuner for tuning the car

Stopping power:
-Wilwood Big Brakes
-Powerslot rotors
-Hawk Ceramic Pads

Rear is an IRS Cobra 8.8 with a slamberg Rear Diff Kit, level 5 axles
Eaton built Differential
Tranny is a built T56
RPS Street Twin Carbon Clutch

>>14012742
>highway gearing having anything to do with energy conversion rates

>>14012742
Ls1s dojt make over 500hp and get 30mpg wtf are you talking about

Lt4 has cooling issues period
Go read some reviews for the ctsv, it still has problems but nowhere near the extent of the vette

what does LS stands for?

>>14012766
Less Slow

>>14012766
Literal Shit

>>14012766
Likely Slow

>>14012766
Literally superman

>>14012725
Oh not this meme again

>>14012496
That's not a 455GM.

>>14012665
>>14012666
you guys are tards if you think that car is ruined. The whole motor is still behind the strut towers and sure it did add 165 lbs, but all of that weight is behind the strut towers, and a good chunk of it is the tranny.

Essentially a ls swapped s2k is a corvette killer, and will be faster than a f20c could ever be no matter how much money you dumped into it.

>>14012725
>its a ford clone
thats why LS motors always make more power than anything ford has to offer.

>>14014158

>Not wanting a turbo F20C for 9000 rpm + boost

I have nothing against the LS swap really but if you're going for "Corvette with a Honda badge" just buy a C5 Z06 for less money and so some sick mawdz then throw on a JDM tyte red H

>>14014177
>the whole world is America

>>14014158
>will be faster than a f20c could ever be no matter how much money you dumped into it.
Or you could spend 3 or 4 grand turboing the thing and go super fast. Stock F20C blocks have gone 700whp. Unless you just hate turbos or want the mad street credz there is no reason to swap the F20C. I've even seen some decently high n/a hp builds for the F20C, in the mid 300whp. I saw one build for a Civic drag car who had over 400whp with a 2.7l stroker kit and revved to like 10k. I'm pretty sure he rebuilt it evey race though. An LS can still make more power n/a anyways, I just thought that was cool.

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>>14014158
>you guys are tards if you think that car is ruined
>slower
>heavier
>not ruined

> will be faster than a f20c could ever be no matter how much money you dumped into it.
doubt it

post an LS swapped s2000 faster than this

>>14014177
I agree with you, but this argument doesn't make much sense to me. People say this about swapped S2000s, S chassis, Rx7s etc but those chassis are probably better than a C5/C6 Corvette. I understand why LS swap people want those chassis, but from a power/price standpoint you would be better off with stock engine usually. Not saying people shouldn't do it, it's their car, but these people just act like an LS is the only way to make power from those cars when it's not.

I think the reason why is most people who do LS swaps start with the idea of doing an LS swap and finding a chassis, rather than having a car and deciding to put an LS for power.

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>>14012660
>LS swap
>not snek

What a flamer.

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>>14014308
>>14014308
thats even more disgusting holy fuck

>>14014165
I kekked because its true

>>14014275
I dunno anon, it looks sooper fast in that motion-blur photo. How many G's do you think that is?

>>14014318
Not at all desu.

If your going to swap in a silly ohv engine into an s2000 it might as well be snek

>>14014345
google about its laptimes and found out

>>14014308
The Snek engine is the only acceptable pushrod. Would still rather have the F20C and turbo.

The ultimate S2000 engine would be a Honda Indy V8. 10k rpm, 3.5l, 650hp n/a, all aluminum engine. Or maybe the HSV V8. 500hp+ n/a, redline was never disclosed as far as I know. It must be similarly high.

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>>14014165
The trinity makes more power than any ls/lt gm has put in prodution

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>>14012660
so much butt hurt

>>14012751
>injectors are sub par, even for pleb jet ski modifications
>fast
Kek

>>14012751
>my buddy's mustang
is this memes?

>>14014460
Yep.

I have an F20c. But I'd drive the shit out of a snek2000.

I'd also drive the shit out of a boosted s though.

>>14014277

>I think the reason why is most people who do LS swaps start with the idea of doing an LS swap and finding a chassis, rather than having a car and deciding to put an LS for power.

Yeah probably.

I imagine there's a minority of rotaryfags who blow one or two boosted engines and then decide to swap, though.
(inb4 lolapexseals suddenly drops in to call me a faggot)

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>I sit on several FIA engine councils and it always comes up from our competitors. Whether it’s Porsche, Ferrari, or Aston Martin, they’re always complaining about what they perceive of as the advantages the two-valve engine has [over] their [designs], and want the two-valve engine penalized. To that I say, ‘go back to the road car—if the two-valve engine is that much better for racing you ought to put it in your car.’ To which they have no answer.


B A S E D

>>14014546
I remember there was an actually not-shit speedhunters article on one such FD, apparently the rotary kept running too hot or some shit like that so an LS3 and T56 found their way in the car.

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>>14012635
His shit motor couldn't handle the turbo. So he gets the ls.
http://youtu.be/H3wFMFbue6E

>>14012496
>Why is the LS
Oh wow, are they still producing retro pushrod engines in US?
That's so cool guys!

>>14014570
>dumbass couldnt tune his car and blew it up

ftfy

there are stock longblocks FA making 400 hp

>>14012496
>inb4 meme engine
Well, since you've already addressed it there is nothing else to discuss

>>14014561
they all use stupidly small engines compared to the corvette

in GT1 power was not an issue

>>14014546
You are 100% right about Rx7s. Lots of the V8s in Rx7s are people who blew the rotary 1 or 2 times and got sick of it.

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>>14014607

>>14014668
how does it feel to be fucking stupid?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16680

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>>14014709
Do you really want me to show you the power the ls God?

>>14013319
FROM TOP TO BOTTOM MOTHFCUKER

>>14014739
I rather not lose my time with pigfat boat anchor engines, fastest brz are FA powered
http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/11/is-this-the-fastest-86-in-the-world/

>>14014796
>The 4U-GSE/FA20 remains under the hood, albeit with significantly more power than factory. For the 2015 event, 330kW (442hp)
An FA20 weighs in at 390lbs. Not including all of the turbo components added for that build.

An LS1 weighs 410lbs. And makes the same power NA when mildly built as the FA20 does with 20lbs of boost.

>>14014739
Guaranteed it handles like shit.

Not because of weight, but because the CG is way higher than with a boxer.

>>14014864
an LS with transmission and fluids is around 600 pounds

an FA is 480 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2415250

I dont get your point tho, fastest brz are Fa powered, thats a fact

>>14012600
>>14014864
>380lbs
>410lbs

Ls fags can't even get their shit straight.

>>14015015
because LS fags are fucking stupid

>>14015028

5.0L DOHC Coyote
>28" Length
>26" Height
>27.5" Wide
>444lbs

LS1
>28.75" Length
>28.25" Height
>25" Wide
>440lbs

>>14014197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM

>>14014197
the only relevant part is

>>14017012
>the obese, ignorant and the one that get shot a lot is

ftfy

There is no replacement for displacement if your engine won't rev. Enjoy your truck motor. Good luck pulling up tree stumps.

Flat planes are as god intended.

>>14012496
>>14012580

Pretty much this.

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>>14012496

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>>14012496
Only a 1,000hp

>>14012496
because its a copy of the best bits of other engines...

>>14012532
Explain why the wankel is the best v8 motor. I can't wait for this explanation.

>>14012673
This literary runs off fuel and apex seal, only to make noise and heat

>>14012665
TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE

>>14018260
revslol

>>14012496
Mark IV Big block chevy is the only way to go Ls engines are for plebs

>>14022581
>v8