Twingo Thread

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>>13978447
>where everyone is nice to each other
think again, faggot

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How are everyone's Twingos doing? Mine's been busy making friends.

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$500 can get you this badboy, 1993 model.

Can Americans import cars, and keep them on private property until they're legal to get on the road? I could hook some brothers up.

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>>13978516
hol up nigga, you might not have to bother with americlaps
please provide more details

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Let's go rallying

>>13978516
want! how far from the German border is that?

>>13978546
>>13978697

It's located near Schiphol airport.
Tons of cheap Twingo's in the Netherlands.

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>>13978758
Forgot interior pic.

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>>13978758
>>13978697
I don't know why as a German you need to go to the Netherlands to buy a Twingo

>>13978770
Holy shit, dat Kindergarten interior!

>>13978773
Unless he wants some "groceries" with it, lol.

I don't understand either.

>>13978773
Because look at your screenshot, they all look like they've been raped by people who barely passed their driver's license and it doesn't get much better if you're willing to spend more. And if I drive like 8 hours to Munich or so I might as well drive 3 or 4 hours to the Netherlands.

>>13978805
That's a fair point.
But pics might be deceiving though. I'd look around for one thats in like a max 100-150km radius. Might be able to snag a cheap/nice German one after some searching. Anything below the 400 euro barrier will be shit anyway.

http://voorraad.brandauto.nl/zoekschermautodealers.aspx?did=4963&pw=1
Link for the interested.
I think they charge like another 50 euro or so to have it "ready", so like 425 euro total.

>>13978835
eeeeh nvm, their site is too shitty, cant copy the link.

>>13978773
Blame your cash for clunkers scheme, that singlehandledly kills off the most used cars on the market.

wish we could import them to the US, I need a new, cheap shitbox since my other one got stolen

>>13978805
Do you think it'll be better in Netherlands? I actually wanted to drive to Hamburg to buy an Initiale I found for 1500€ but I didn't have an opportunity in the end.

>>13978770
COMFY

do people modify these things or just leave them as is?

>>13978647
My dream is to make a Baja Twingo as soon as I can get one imported here

>>13978996
Hamburg is one of the biggest shitholes for buying cheap used cars. It's full of arabs and turks trying to sell pretty much totaled cars for a not very cheap price. Many of them get agressive when they realize you're not going to buy from them. Been there 2 or 3 times to look at cars and it was always the same. Ended up buying my Twingo from an elderly couple who stored it in a garage for most of the time and only used it to drive around when they were on holiday.

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>tfw no twingo in new zealand
Any eurobros willing to ship one in a container?

>>13979499
You could buy one for dirt cheap here, the total cost should still be reasonable.

>be canadian
>can import twingos
>have never seen a twingo

FUCK

>>13979168
I won't die before I see THIS !

>>13978516
You can as long as you don't drive it on public roads/only use it offroad or on a track, but it's considerably harder to register it for street use if it was imported before it turned 25. In addition, if you illegally register it as something else/VIN swap to drive it before it's old enough it can be seized and crushed even after it turns 25.

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>>13979608

>>13979499
You could ask a local importer to organize all the shipping and paperwork for you, shouldn't be too bad. ~1500USD for the car in good shape, maybe up to 5000 USD for shipping and handling, then it's yours and you're actually unique in NZ.
No idea about import laws in NZ, but you will probably be a lot better off if you bought an almost new Twingo 1 in Colombia (production in Colombia of Twingo 1 until pretty recently... 2012 or so).

>>13979499
sent ;)

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What's the word on the red plushies? I've been out of the loop.

>>13980355
Didn't see any strawpoll for the 2nd run colors pop up in the last thread. Red seemed like it was the most popular though, followed by green, with yellow coming in last judging by the responses.

>>13980355
Patience please. Samples are paid, they'll be produced eventually for you to be judged.

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>>13978473
Mine's been helping me with IT type stuff.

>>13980738
How much are the twingos

>>13982289
The first run was $13 for the plushie + either $14 for direct shipping or $8 for forwarded shipping.

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>>13982553
Yep. Next run will be 15$ though per plush, after all said and done with the first run, I'm 200$ upside down.

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Nice idea I saw a couple of days ago.

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Been thinking of doing this to my 2002. But I would sand off the mercedes stars and paint the middle of the hub in to my twingos colour. I can get those hubcaps for cheap here, about 5€ a piece.

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Saw this one some years ago. Funny color

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i was browsing monaco in streetview and found this one

>>13983556
>>13983559
interesting!
didn't know that these hubcaps work on anything else than those old Mercedes steelies.

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>>13983556
>>13983559

Holy shit, what you found there actually is...

a Mercides Honz

>>13983352
Heh I knew that was gonna happen. Save one of the new ones for me. I'll pay for it this time.

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>>13983352

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>>13984827
All things considered, I wasn't too far off.

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Can we email you to reserve one yet or is it still too early?

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2002. D7F reporting in.

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>>13989063

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>>13989063
>>13989071

>>13989063
>D7F
Did you 0-60 it? How long does it take? What's your max speed? Can you compare it to any other car in terms of acceleration/speed?
Also what tranny?

>>13989200
Ah fuck, I thought the D7F was the 16v engine. Nevermind then I guess.

>>13989200

Yes I did. About 16 sec on 98 premium gas. But I dont drive it hard. Gotta keep the consumption low. I have a max cruising speed of 85 km/h on the highway so the noise and the vibrations are not too strong.

I drove lots of cars, but 0-100 this is the slowest one. It picks up fairly good to about 70, but after that its very slow. I drove a 1.7 diesel astra without turbo, so that would be a good comparison. Even a 1.4 fiat stilo multiwagon i drove is faster than a twingo. But the twingo is a city car, so all well and good.

All is standard. I dont know the exact tranny. Everything is still original from the factory.

>>13989266
IIRC I got 14 or 15 seconds on mine. By what tranny I meant is it manual or that quickshift bullshit that's appearently really expensive to repair.
I've actually TLGP'd my friend's 4.0L 1996 Explorer and up until 30/40 kmph we were going head to head. It's really dynamic at first but lacks power to make it up at bigger speeds.

Twingos are like dirt cheap where i live so lately i've been thinking about buying one for a project.

I've always wanted a sleeper so i might as well make it out of a memecar.

I know the engine bay isn't exactly what you could call big but surely you could fit something decent there. Any suggestions?

>>13989350
Oh that. Its the normal 5 speed manual. I wish it had a 6th like my other car. You get quite used to the 6th gear.
I have shit all weather tyres, so thats why the acceleration is not quite as good.
But I also dont have any options. No power steering, no abs, no a/c. But I have remote locks and power mirros because logic.

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>>13989490
Hah, that's the same as me, except I don't even have power mirrors/windows or remote locks.
>>13989362
People in these threads have suggested that the Renault 5 1.4T engine could fit in there.

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>>13989362

renault 1.4 turbo engine like >>13989682 said.

it's apparently easy as cake to drop in and many achieved ~200hp with these engines which is really fucking decent for a car under 1 ton.

also, they fucking sound BOSS for what they are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Ui2pULeos

>>13989851

>tfw Twingo is so small, it feels totally at home at a kart track

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also just found this video with a 2.0 turbo swap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQyEoN-bFFY

if that dude wasn't that fat, I bet he'd get 5seconds off.

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>>13989362
I know someone managed to squeeze a 2.0l Clio RS 172 engine in there.
Or do a full MR conversion and use a Rover V8, pic related.

>>13990824
It doesn't feel like the same car at all.

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>>13989873
>dat shifting
Well, that'd make an even bigger difference.

>>13990824
>2.0l Clio RS 172
Holy balls...

>>13991202
Here's a link, if you're interested. It's a pretty fun read.

http://www.cliosport.net/threads/twingo-172.504195/

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>>13989873
>can afford a 2.0 turbo swap
>can't afford a tacho

>>13991534
your_resistance_only_makes_my_penis_harder.jpg

I will buy one soon.
They are pretty common here in Brazil.
I even saw a black one today, then a remember you, guys :3

>>13992081
Also, is it possible to swap a 1.6 16v from a Clio on it?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaEel0spD34

>>13992536

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ....WOOOSCH .... HOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.............

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Thought I should post this here too, I only posted it in the SF-R thread

>>13992090
Se tu encontrar uma oficina decente, dá sim.

>>13978447
i like twingos and all but why can't we have a dedicated shitbox thread?

>>13994332
Because then people would post <insert your favorite car you think is nice here> and you'd get mad.

>>13994343
but i wouldn't, i feel like everyone should appreciate other's shitbox

Does anyone have that twingo-850 combo photoshop?

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>>13994781
This one?

>>13994332
nice try, generalfaggot.

>>13994332
>>13994350
If you love generals that much, you might have more fun on Reddit.
I'm serious.

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>>13980738
I cant wait to see a red one, and I got mine in the mail today.

>>13995020
Yes. Thank you, friend.

>>13992536
the sound of this 1.4 makes everything below my belt wet

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Bon nuit, Twingo.

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I'm so happy not being an angry German

>>13994241
Foda é encontrar um Clio 1.6 16v pra doar o motor.
Caso não encontre, partirei para o turbo mesmo.

Found in Berlin.

>>13997423
Nice.

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For all who are waiting for the forwarded box to the USA, here's the progress so far.

Hey twingofriends, what about the handling? Does it have the magic of old french featherweight hatchbacks?

>>13998210
Renault can be trusted to set up a fun chassis and they weigh hardly anything, so they're super tossable.
Also they're surprisingly comfy.

>>13978473
bruh i remember those lego ferrari kits as a kid. I got one for my birthday when I was little and crashed it into a million pieces the next day :( then promptly lost the parts

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>>13998225
Lovely! I'll be looking for one around my area then.

>>13998261
Ah damn, that sucks.
On a side note, I might pick up that new F40 set at some point. It looks sooo nice.

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>>13995672

That photo is actually depicting a Twingo performing fellatio with this tissue-box-next-to-bed owner.

>>13995672
daww :3

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>>13995684
Both are checking dat Twingo ass yo.

...or maybe they just find it suspect that you take a photo of a fucking Twingo, lol.

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>>13999931
Well, it is certainly something to check out.

>>13999958
I just realized, what are us burgerfats going to have to do to make our license plates fit?

>>13999981
...that's a scary thought

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>>13999958
Twingo ass time.

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>>14000000

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>>14000000
check dat ass, and CHECK THOSE DIGITS

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>>14000000

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>>14000000

>hun, does this plate position make my ass look fat?

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>>14000000

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lewd pipe

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>>14000000

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simply put, we have to go lewder

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>>14000000

Check this ass out.

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>>14000189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIzgk5FnqzI

Can someone with a pre-facelift twingo take the rear license plate off and post a picture?

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>>14000280
sadly don't have a twingo but I guess it would look something like this

>>14001688
Thanks, but I need to know where the mounting holes are. I tried looking on french ebay for twingo hatches but I could only find one and it had an adapter covering it.

>>14001702
ah, I understand.
well I bet there's someone around who could do that

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>>14000000

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>>14000000

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>>14000000

>grabs ass

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>dies

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>German ghost dancing around Twingo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRgr-6PvLdk

>It's just a boat to mi casa like a milli or two
>Gotta kick off your shoes, okay let's take a cruise
>Here's my captain now relax, let him do what he do
>Okay who rolling spinach? Cause I'm reeling the anchor
>Smoke up an acre a grass, wake up in Jamaica
>Couple nautical miles, I call my Cubanos to cop
>Puerto Rico for women, hit Barbados to shop
>Living larger than life call this the yacht club

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beep beep can pull over pls

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>>14000000
checked

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>>14000000

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Twingo stronk

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Twingo on the big screen!

Guess the movie

>>14006908
The first Bourne movie?

>>14002586
Needs some BRRRRRRRT

Ask /k/, they might hook ya up.

>>14006939
Correct anon.

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>>14006989
well it does have a solid looking roof rack, might be able to mount one up there

>>14002586
>pre-facelift with fog lights
muh dick

>>14008135
>tfw people are already developing twingo fetishes

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>Silvia + 180sx = Sil80
>Twingo + Audi 80 = Twing80

>>14011108
Wouldn't a Twing80 be a Twingo front on an Audi 80 instead of the other way around?

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>>14011148

>>14011563
looks like an early 90s Audi A2

>>14011108
>>14011563
>it hurts to live

>>14013835
was that orange an original color?

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The red will be darker, this is too pink.

>>14016655
w-where do i buy one of those?

>>14002577
What is the story is behind this?

>>14016658
The email floats around.
The strawpoll for choosing which color you want most will be posted when I'm back home.

>>14016744
Oh so you are making them? I'll totally order one if it isn't huge money from the low volume.

Didn't /k/ do some stuffed guns or something at one point?

>>14016655
>>14017030
also
>implying I wouldn't buy pink

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>>14016655

So I guess the wrongly pink colored test mules will get thrown into the trash by the manufacturers...

Why not sending them to the burgerproxybro and he could send them to whoever would want them?

I'm sure someone would love to have those ultra rare pink ones.

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Truck load of HON,coming to a town near you.

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>>14017251
>So I guess the wrongly pink colored test mules will get thrown into the trash by the manufacturers...
I'm going to have the test mules sent to me, no Twingo will ever go to waste under my supervision. Haven't decided yet what to do with them, but one of each color for myself is a start. The others, no idea.

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Poll coming up now:
http://www.strawpoll.me/6230508

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>>14017551
You should do a harlequin plushie

>>14018877
>the amount of cutting and different color patches that have to get tailored and stuff

ouch

>>14018892
LIMITED EDITION

>>14018877
Do it in secret, just one. Once they're all ready send it to some unsuspecting anon and wait for him to share his ultra rare harlequin twingo plushie with us.

being able to use Twingo plushies as currency when

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Color choice for rouge nacré will be this one.

>>14018942
THAT !

>>14020882
fuck yeah! this does indeed match really, really well!

>>14016655

I WANT THEM ALL

THEY'RE JUST SO DAMN CUDDLY

>>14020882
Excited about this desu pls let me know when I can buy and get /comfy/

Twuhwingo

Twinge dkav or ed

>>14023853
honhonhonhon

Twingo wants a go!

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>>14023853

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>>13978447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZfigbUWHRs

>>14020882
Can you make a few Up plushies and how much would delivery to Europe cost?

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>>14024434
>Up plushies

where the hell do you think you are

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>>14023853
>the conspirator.jpg

>ancient, ugly, noisy, polluting coffin with wheels

Cool thread by the way.

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Recorded the engine/exhaust sound of my little beast again, this time with my tablet so it's better quality. Was supposed to be for BeamNG but it sounds like shit in-game.
https://soundcloud.com/dodek08500/twingo-exhaust-and-engine-sound
Sad times ahead. I'm seeing a potential buyer tomorrow. Feels incoming.

>>14017551
>tfw you're not even special snowflake anymore because some other anon also voted pink.

>>14017551
> TFW want them all.

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BROTHER 7! I HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME!

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>>14024434

>Up

actually the best looking sub-compact car there is on the market right now.
but maybe I'm just biased because it has a lot of similarities to the original twingo, has decently sized windows and isn't that angry for a modern car.

the 500 looks cool too but I'm more into technical, minimalistic styling.

>>14025086
>Sad times ahead. I'm seeing a potential buyer tomorrow. Feels incoming.
yep, that will sting.

>>14025086

Buy a new one. No other car can match a twingo. You will miss it.

>>14027870
>be poorfag student
>can barely afford gasoline
>buy a new car
Wish I could, anon. I'll have to settle for the plushie for now. But I've promised myself to eventually buy an Initiale Twingo.

>>14027528
tfw a pluche twingo gets more laid than i fo

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>>14017551
Lel

>>14027998

Feel you bro.
I barely manage to buy gas for mine.
I am not in such a pinch as you, but I cant imagine selling my car.
Hope you get back on your feet anon.

>>14028362
Be rich, overly controlling daddy pays for everything but also comes home angry and beats me up sometimes.

Still hate myself every single day and pray I die in my sleep.

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>>14027998
>selling own twingo
>having a twingo plushie

Ow fuck, this will hurt even more, reminding you permanently with its presence.

>>13978817
probem is hte 5 digit odo

>>14027998
>can barely afford gas
>not selling the bmw that drinks much more gas than the twingo
i get it's a nicer car but that doesn't sound quite like the best decision

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>>14028362
I'm not exactly in a pinch but since it's not me who pays the insurance and maintenance because I don't make my own money yet, it's not me who decides its fate, especially since it's not in such a good condition. Plus, I've already bought a new car and we currently have 4 cars in a family of 3 and a fifth is coming up thanks to a kind friend my dad used to work for. To be honest I was scared of driving the Twingo sometimes because of all the rust and shit but I bet any car enthusiast has their feelings towards their first car. It's like your first highschool love. Maybe not the best you could have but definitely has a special place in your heart.
>>14028503
The plushie will help me remember that love.
>>14029347
I'm gonna install LPG on it which is like half the price of petrol here and it should cost me less to get by. On top of that it's newer, faster and more comfortable.

The potential customer I met today turned out to be a literal gipsy who couldn't even speak proper Polish and offered me too low of a price. We're meeting again on Monday and we'll see if he'll pay my price.

Also I got banned for impersonating Alphonse so see you in a month br/o/s

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>GET OVER HEEEEEEERRRE

>>14029513
lol, that madman took the odo from the middle and slapped it behind his wheel?

>>14029513
>304112km
It always impresses me how there are so many high mileage Twingos while there are many other reliable compact cars but usually topping out at 180 or 200k.

It's like a lot of people use them for longer trips all the fucking time.

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>twingo on painted steelies with meaty tires

all of my hnnnngghhh

>>14029502
>posting under your own trip that you were evading bans
Actually
>posting under a trip
>ever

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>>14029671
Dat double mouth on the left side... my brain doesn't compute.

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>>14031750

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>>14031822
No.

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Emergency shitpost raid page 9 bump

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>mfw the ap/o/calypse is happening and mods are in on it

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>>14000000

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beep beep
je suis here to savebump the thread am moi too late?

non seriously,
what happened?
did I miss anything interesting?

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Well fucking finally it's moving.
It's now in Colin's town, so he'll do the shipping soon(tm). All the poor guys waiting in the US for the last ones will see their plushies soon.

>met my dads childhood best budxy
>havent seen him in maybe 15 years
>he dds a twingo now and says its the best daily ever and he wouldnt trade it for anything

Surely there are better city dds for as cheap.

>>14036437
I know quite a few people who bought one when they were broke as fuck and only bought it because it's cheap and only as a temporary solution.
Then they fucking fell in love with, won't get rid of it anymore and it and treat it like a pet, I'm not joking.

There's something about that car that turns people's brain off and make them think with their hearts or something.

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>dat fucking color
HNNNGG

>>14037582
I dont wanna be a cunt but I think the twingo is shit and ugly.

>>14038085
cunt

>>14038085
H-h-how could you say something like that?

>>14038296
He might be French. Ironically, the Twingo is one of the least respected cars in France.

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Plushiefag, how much would it cost to send one to Brazil?
I want it so bad.

>>14038085
>ugly
Your opinion and I respect it.

>twingo is shit
Objectively wrong and you're probably just ignorant.

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>tfw no one will ever make a twingo shaped car bed or even just twingo sheets
I would 10/10 buy one if it existed

>>14041423
Make one? Material shouldn't be too expensive. Also, make it plushy all around.

>>14041513
>a giant twingo plushie
swiss plushiebro pls

>>14044015
>french_beauty.jpg

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>>14041560
I don't see what's wrong with that, though... How to make comfy more comfy? Add even more comfy!

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>>14044945

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>>14044945

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Hey guys it's the other anon helping out with shipping the last of the Twingo plushies.

I just sent out ones to the following ZIP codes:
91335
07002
49265
50013
98026
92530
97203

Just in time for Christmas!
Any questions or if you want your tracking number just email: [email protected]

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>>14000000
impressive digits brethren.

also K20 Twingo when?

>>14045148
Between a K20 and a 13b, I wonder which is bigger?
Because if the 13b is smaller that might be a better fit, also brapbraps as a bonus.

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>>14000000
LEGENDARY

>>14045178
A rotary Twingo would be sweet, but what transmission would you use? Mazda never made a transverse rotary. Maybe an adapter plate for the Twingo bellhousing would work.

>>14045306
An adapter plate for the stock transmission could work, or maybe try to fit the transmission from something a bit more powerful in there, like a Clio RS.

I'd love to just frankenstein some rotary Twingo together from bits and pieces at some point, I just need the skills, tools, space, time, money...

>>14025086
How much are you selling it for? In polish gold caps

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>>14000000

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>>14000000

Bumping for Twingo pics

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>>14039563
Please.

>>14046175
>inb4 somebody puts a twingo smile on that

>>14039563
14$ to anywhere in the world outside Europe.
Will you teach it portuguese for huen huen huen?

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>>14048105
if you insist

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>It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.

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how

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>>13978447
_W_A_T_

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>>14048751
counter-honing your Honventador with a Twinguish

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>>14048806
Although it could do with it's tri-bonnet scoop

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>>14045524
1000zł / $250
The gipsy didn't contact me in the end so I'm waiting for a new buyer.

>>14050178

why are you selling it so cheap? i was looking for twingos for sale in poland yesterday and didn't find one nice example for less than 3k zlotys

if you can wait until new year's eve and you're near warsaw i'll give you 500 euros for it. srs.

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>>14050201
Rust all around, old, no power steering, AC doesn't work properly and smeels like burned plastic, loud because of holes in exhaust pipe. Also needs more breaking fluid and probably new breaking pads.
I live in Zachodniopomorskie. You can see the registration plate here >>13989682

>>14050253
>no power steering

That's actually a plus.

No need for expensive work out utensils.

Also,
>complaining about no power steering in a 850kg car
Come the fuck on.

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>>14050268
I'm not the one complaining. People lose their shit when I tell them it doesn't have power steering. I mean it does make a difference but unless you have muscular dystrophy or you're an old person you should be able to get by. And old people are 90% of Twingo drivers in my town.

>>14050253

oh yeah, nevermind, i thought it was cleaner than that.

it's fucking impossible to find a clean early twingo MK1 for a reasonable price here in france. (no way i'm spending 2k euros on a memecar with a 1.2) they're all run into the ground or dinged to shit. so i figured i might as well look for one when i'm in poland for new year's, but it looks like it's even worse over there

>>14050322
In the Netherlands there's a few for around €500 which seem to be in reasonable shape.

>>14050253
Polish guy here

I'm in Warsaw - you're far away? just happens that I'm looking for a car in this price range

>>14050322
I was looking for Twingos in my area and there were literally no good ones. They were mostly bought by poor people or people who needed A->B transportation so they weren't properly maintained and taken care of. Every single Twingo I've seen has the bottom completely rusted out. Such is life.
>>14050350
Re-read that post m8

>>14050366
sorry
yup, that's far away

>>13979628
I want this.

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>>14050394

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redlight district twickup

>>14050615
cute ute

>>14050268
And it's a car that was designed for not having power steering, it'll be a lot easier to steer than not having power assist in a car with broken power steering.

Plus it has weight savings from not having power steering. I converted my Subaru GL from power steering to manual and it actually handles better now.

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>"D-Did I do a good job, Anon?"

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>>14054232
To make me foam you up that much, yeah... yeah

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>>14000000

>>14054232

>someone brought his twingo to a /o/ buka-...eh I mean meetup

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fully sik opposite lock

Meme or not, these threads actually improved my day because now every time I see one of these fuckers I instantly gain some happiness back.

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>>14056479
iktf, iktf exactly man

when you see a twingo smiling at you, how can you not smile back?

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Spotted this wild Twingo while driving a safari jeep full of tourists.

It had rained that morning, so we were on a tight schedule, and running late already, but I stopped anyway to take a photo.

And without thinking, the rest of the group reached for their cameras in unison, and followed suit.
Moments later the two other jeeps behind mine did same thing.

"Twingo" I said, as turned to the tour guide sitting to my left.
"How do you say Twingo in German?" I continued.

"Twingo", she replied.

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>>14056952
>how do you say Twingo in German
>Twingo
kek
I think they might have been taking pictures of that building behind it though, anon. What country is that anyway?

>>14057163
spain

>>14056952
That's a really good photo. Got a higher res version? Would make a great wallpaper.

>>14057956
Shameless interest bump.

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>>14000000

>>14061954
yes

>>14061954
no

>>14061954
maybe

>>14061954
i don't know

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I got a package today

>>14064011
suk dik, winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_MTPDlDxow

>>14065324
Your mom got my package today.

>>14065356
oh, you were the one that sent the lights? thanks bro

>>14065372
np m8, LEDs use 7 times less energy than conventional incandescents.

>>14065495
Yeah, that's why you sent the led strip

>>14065649
Energy conservation is everyone's job.

NEW THREAD
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>>14066495
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